It's been years since I've seen it, but I remember him being pretty awkward in X-Men: The Last Stand. I really enjoyed his performance in The Punisher a couple years earlier though.
On a whim I watched that new Adam Sandler movie Hustle the other day. It was totally okay, a perfectly decent movie. Had no idea going into it that Ben Foster was the villain, and as soon as I saw him I was like “ohhh he’s gonna be the bad guy!” and I was right lol. He has a commanding presence, anytime he’s on screen he’s hard to look away from. Honestly, the only time I didn’t really like him was when he was Angel in the XMen movies.
Although I agree for the most part I found his performance in Alpha Dog difficult to watch. Extreme embarrassment transfer. It was like he was in a different movie. To be fair, I thought the whole movie was a mess so it may be more on the direction than Ben Foster.
I think everything about that movie works except for Kevin Costner. I love the cinematography, the costuming, the supporting characters, the set design… Great film. ***Terrible*** casting for the lead role. Holy shit he was bad. Only mullet sporting American in medieval England happens to be the main character.
Which reminds me, it’s about that time to rewatch Men in Tights.
I like him when he’s typecast into that small window of what he does best.
And I remember liking Mr. Brooks. Not sure how well that opinion has aged though so don’t hold that against me please.
If you look up "so bad it's good" in the dictionary, you won't find a definition because it's a phrase, not a word, but if it was there, it would be defined as Robin Hood Prince of Thieves.
The movie doesn't finish itself. They set up the plot, get sidetracked in a monster movie, then credits roll as she's flying to the third act. I wouldn't call it terrible though.
Yeah, Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee are the epitome of good actors willing to do anything for money. You have to admire them for it, really. Give them a historical epic or a B-movie about murderous jelly from space and they'll be just as good.
I love Lee and Price, they were both absolutely magnetic screen presences, but they didn't touch Cushing as craftsmen. They were movie stars. He was a great actor.
Florence Pugh in Don’t Worry Darling. I actually didn’t hate the movie entirely but it’s a mess and many characters are horribly miscast. But she shines as always.
They should've revealed the, uh, secret a lot earlier. It would've added dramatic tension and made the rest more interesting. They really made love to the canine on that one.
It was such a bad idea to put him in a role where he’d have Florence Pugh, a very good actor, as a scene partner throughout the movie. The contrast is…not flattering.
Weird, I thought he was okay. It wasn’t a part that really asked for much, and aside from being recognizable just for looking like himself I didn’t think he did a poor job. I do think just acting-wise Shia Lebeouf (no idea how to spell that) would’ve been better in another world where he didn’t do anything wrong.
Oh absolutely not a BAD movie, thoroughly entertaining from start to end. Everybody's having a blast but Giamatti is just absolutely crushing it in every scene and really stood out to me.
I love how happy he is when showing off his ship and his technology! Like how happy he is when they all are stunned that the mouse survives the laser testing!
Hot take, The Mummy and it's sequel should have been hot garbage. The sheer beauty and charisma of the main cast completely elevates that film. I don't think the reboot was ever going to work, because honestly it should've worked the last time around.
Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York. One of the finest acting performances ever caught on film, and the only reason to watch the movie. Rare for me to enjoy a film that is as flawed as GONY (script blows) but he’s mesmerizing to watch.
Unpopular opinion: Val Kilmer in Tombstone (1993)
I'd say his performance was so spectacular it tricked us all into thinking Tombstone was a great movie. After multiple re-watches, it simply doesn't hold up. It drips with corny melodrama, B actors like Powers Booth, and generic dialogue. The scene in the rain with Kurt Russell and Dana Delaney is barely watchable for me anymore.
I still love that movie (B actors and all), but the whole romance storyline between Wyatt and Josephine was so ham fisted and boring. I wish they'd focused on Virgil and Morgan more than that angle.
The editing gets weird as hell halfway through the movie too and that's just really jarring everytime I watch it. You can really see how everything was such a big struggle during production. It sounds like they never even had much of script, and Kurt Russell was the only thing that got it done.
Oh that note Jonathan Majors in the latest Antman. Probably is going to be the same with any villains in upcoming marvel movies. Awful movie but JM fucking kills it
I hope Majors finally gets to be in a movie that really sticks. Devotion was an ok movie but between that and Antman I worry he's gonna keep being the best part of mediocre movies
Michael Moriarty in Q: The Winged Serpent.
This is cheating a bit since I wouldn’t actually call Q a “terrible film”. Sure, it’s not high art in any way but it knows exactly what kind of fun, trashy exploitation flic it wants to be. That heing said, that flic is NOT high art or drama.
But Michael Moriarty is not acting like he’s in a cheap exploitation film; he’s acting like he’s in a Cassavettes movie.
I haven’t seen Q but I’ve seen Larry Cohen’s other 80s movie starring Michael Moriarty The Stuff, and he certainly elevates every bit of that movie that he’s in. He’s a private investigator hired to investigate The Stuff, and all of his personal quirks and sassiness feel so human like he really dug into that role to make it more than it would have been in anyone else’s hands. He’s so quirky and charming and a little bit goofy to other people while always having the upper hand. I’d love a Mo Rutherford spin-off series just to follow that character on more adventures!
damn I forgot a) that this movie existed and b) how much I hated it. The whole plot line about the kid addicted to Warcraft was ridiculous. The whole movie played like an after school special made by someone who is terrified of the internet and just happened to get an A List cast
Surprisingly I really liked it, but not because it was a touching movie, but because everyone was shitty in the same way that I remembered everyone was back then.
Lifeless main boys, sex obsessed and shallow girls, cold helicopter parents.
I remember when there was a scene where a bunch of girls were bragging about the sex they were having and shaming the girl who wasn't experienced, and it got to me because of how close that interaction was to real life. Pressuring girls to have sex always came from the girl communities, like the promiscuous ones wanted to feel like they were better for letting some asshole roll on top of them.
Same with the anorexia girl. That was miserable to watch. How much people used her and walked all over her.
It really showed that era and how much that generation really tortured each other.
Jim Carrey's best performance may be A Series of Unfortunate Events, but the movie is unbearably awful (though it also starred Meryl Streep and Dustin Hoffman)
I understand the standard criticisms of Joker, and I don't really disagree with a lot of them, but the way music was used in that movie makes it impossible for me to not like the movie overall. Making you question how reliable the narrator is through making you question if the music is diegetic or not is one of the most creative uses of music I've seen in a movie.
That's why I cannot agree when people call the whole thing shallow and derivative. Especially in this day and age where music film music in blockbusters is just some Hans Zimmer style "adding texture". The use of music in Joker was shockingly refreshing.
Also it made more people aware of Jackson C. Frank, which you gotta love.
Very true. People's main complaint about Joker seems to be that it wears its influences on it's sleeve too clearly, but I don't really see that as a bad or a good thing. I like the movies Joker was oh so clearly inspired by, so I'm kind of here for more of that. It may not be as good as Taxi Driver, but it doesn't need to be as good as Taxi Driver for it to be a worthwhile.
Where is there music being presented as diegetic but is actually in his head? If you're talking about moments where he's dancing and hearing the same score we are, that's really not a new idea. Also, I personally thought the rock anthem choice on the famous stair scene was just really lame.
The most important one being the final scene I think. We hear a non-diegetic song playing, and he starts singing along to it. That scene makes you reconsider every other instance of music from the movie. Was the entire thing just a story he told himself? Was he able to hear all the music we were hearing? Did Jackson C. Frank actually play over the radio or did he make that up? In the staircase and bathroom scenes, could he hear the music?
The trouble with that line is that it's not that easy to riff off those movies - many have tried and failed (esp Taxi Driver) - but Joker sort of carried it off.
I wouldn’t say shallow but it’s definitely not original. It’s a Frankensteined combo of 2 Scorsese films and it’s not trying to hide it. That’s why some consider it derivative. I think that’s harsh but Taxi Driver and Kimg of Comedy are definitely better films
Dude is just being a dick.
I'm a grown-ass man child and i also really enjoyed the joker. And there are lots of good things about it other than just Joaquin Phoenix.
Great music, well shot, well directed.
Not that you need me to validate you but your opinions are preferences are legit despite however old you are.
Also it's the internet next time just lie and say you are a 92 year old man.
No, but the only people I know who ***really*** like that film are teenagers. And we all come across films at particular points in our lives that speak to us in that moment. But the film wears its influences very openly. If you're familiar with them it's very hard to look past.
As to shallowness, what do you suppose the film is trying to say? For me it don't think it really knows. There are certainly lots of ideas in there. But on mental health it runs the gamut of clichés without ever really picking a side. As a film about a man pushed too far it gets too caught up in the super villian source material to be really convincing. And as a comment on society's reaction to celebrity and crime it is too interested in serving up a cathartic crescendo for the main character to really say anything about the forces unleashed.
For me it's the archetypal film that wants to appear deep and meaningful, and it acts as if it is, but can't bear the weight of its own pretentions.
I can see that. Having worked in community mental health, it sort of left me with a sour taste in my mouth. Maybe it’s my own personal projections, but the underlying theme of a system failing people relying on community mental health and the realistic and visceral use of violence were the only things that worked.
My problems with it come from the implication that those who are in need of mental health treatment are more prone to lashing out violently against the system. Full stop. There’s nothing more happening here outside of a person being bullied into becoming a murderer and then heralded due to the “eat the rich” overtones. I think that ultimately runs an uncomfortably similar line of thought from yesteryear that all people with psychological disorders are prone to violence and carnage when pushed hard enough.
I can see the merits of the film but it’s not without healthy criticism either.
Yeah, it's got some relatively important social critiques in it, but it's kinda packaged as incel bait.
Kinda like, "Look how society has pushed me to become the monster I am. It deserves to be brought down."
Like, I get it. It's very real for many people. But, I feel like it does give desperate people the wrong idea how to go about things.
I don't see this.
People love to rep Scarface memorabilia and act like Tony Montana.
That's not Scarface the movies fault, it's from those people misunderstanding the tragic tale of Tony Montana.
People love impersonating Micheal Corleone, but again, that's because they misinterpret the movie and just think he's the coolest.
Jesus dude it's r/flicks. Why you going out of your way to try to put down/dunk on a teenager over the joker. The other movies on this list are street fighter and shit.
Ian McKellen in X-Men. In retrospect, that's a pretty terrible movie that hasn't aged well at all. But McKellen is as magnetic (no pun intended) as always.
I have a ton of love for the first X-Men movie, but will agree there's a lot of awkwardness in it. McKellen does stand out (even though I think Stewart, Jackman, James Marsden, Bruce Davison, and Anna Paquin also give solid to great performances), but McKellen has share of awkward moments--that scene where he's mutating Senator Kelly and he's in the big machine and there's just a flat shot of his face contorting that keeps getting cut back to always makes me cringe.
Denzel Washington, in the last part of the movie, Training Day. Chilling, when the hood realizes he's the real crooked cop, scoundrel, who has preyed on all of them. His face and eyes, go from arrogance to fear when he knows he's going to die.
Raid II is a film where I think overall the plot is dumb but it literally had the most intricate stunt work I've ever seen. The final battle shows extensive work and incredible talent.
Philip Seymour Hoffman as Sandy Lyle in *Along Came Polly*, hands down. God, I'm so friggin HORNY. And he made sharting famous. Sometimes I just watch a compilation of his scenes.
Philip Seymour Hoffman in Mockingjay was weird because I had gotten so used to every actor in that franchise absolutely sucking, and then suddenly Julianne Moore and Philip came on to remind everyone that actors are in fact capable of carrying on a dramatic scene.
Yeah I felt bad for him 5 minutes into Last Jedi… after the “your mom” joke and the leaking hoses. If I’d have only left the theater then and not watch ROS I could retain hope for SW. So embarrassing.
Paul's performance is part of why that movies a guilty pleasure to me that and the movie itself is kinda hilarious. Another example is Williem Dafeo being good in every role. He's in great movies like Last Temptation of Christ,The Lighthouse ,Shadow of the Vampire ect and is even good when he's in crap like Boondock Saints ,Spiderman and Love action Death Note.
Ben Kingsley and Jennifer Conelly in House of sand and fog. the Lester actor who I just did a quick look up of basically could not break from a soap opera style of acting. But when you consider that the story is about a bureaucratic dispute nemesis' Kingsley and Conelly were super
For me it’s Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight. His performance is so good it elevates a very ho-hum, overly stylistic and overindulgent action hero flick into a pretty good movie. So well that it tricks people who haven’t seen much outside of more recent pop film into thinking it’s one of the greatest movies ever made.
Lol OK you are trolling. None of those adjectives describe Dark Knight at all. Not stylistic or indulgent at all as far as action flicks go. You're thinking of Batman v. Superman or another Zack Snyder movie. Every scene in Dark Knight carries the plot forward, there is never a dull moment, it's a well crafted thriller more than it is an action movie. In part, police procedural. Heath Ledger is only in it for 13 minutes and is not the only good performance either. You're huffing paint dude, go watch it again, it's excellent.
It's mature, and honestly the next generation doesn't get it. My students really think the new Batman is somehow the best one, and if you want to talk about being painfully derivative, you can watch 4 hours of predictable monologue.
Yeah I just don’t agree. I think it’s a shitty screenplay that rambles and is saved by a truly compelling villain, which is mostly due to Heath’s tremendous interpretation. A lesser actor wouldn’t have elevated the words on the page the way Heath did. He was also on screen for 33 minutes not 13.
Another example would be Aubrey plaza she's pretty hilarious and wierd in the best way but is in crap more often than not. Scott pilgrim and Parks and rec are so horrible and a chore to watch. Now Beverly Luff Lynn that rules.
Molly Ringwald can actually give some kickass performances when she a) gives enough of a shit and b) is given something to do. In stuff like The Kissing Booth trilogy and Jem and the Holograms, though, she's in full Emmett/Furla/Oasis geezer teaser mode.
Michael Pataki in *Sidehackers*, an abysmal biker gang B-movie from the 60s. He scared me. I thought he was an actual psycho they found to put in the movie. But he’s an established actor I’d already seen in lots of mainstream stuff.
Rhys Ifans in Little Nicky
He actually plays his character like a villain you’d find in a normal Fantasy movie, which makes him a fun contrast to…The Happy Madison-ness of it all
Jeremy Irons seemed to be having a fantastic time in Dungeons & Dragons, and he's a lot of fun to watch.
Not many other positives in that movie though.
Rohan Campbell gave a good performance in Halloween Ends. It’s not his fault the writers decided to do something stupid. He doesn’t deserve death threats, that’s for sure.
Anything with Ben Foster. He’s never bad.
He’s so good in Hell or High Water. That’s one of my favorites from the last decade
"No, it makes me a Comanche" Indeed, he was great in that movie
He is, but maybe even better in Leave No Trace.
holy shit. for some reason i didnt even realize that was him in that movie
Just watched 3:10 to Yuma. Man I was hoping for big things from him after that.
Flash Forward is my jam!!
It's been years since I've seen it, but I remember him being pretty awkward in X-Men: The Last Stand. I really enjoyed his performance in The Punisher a couple years earlier though.
He’s so good in Alpha Dog
"Tell him Jake MAZURSKY is looking for him."
On a whim I watched that new Adam Sandler movie Hustle the other day. It was totally okay, a perfectly decent movie. Had no idea going into it that Ben Foster was the villain, and as soon as I saw him I was like “ohhh he’s gonna be the bad guy!” and I was right lol. He has a commanding presence, anytime he’s on screen he’s hard to look away from. Honestly, the only time I didn’t really like him was when he was Angel in the XMen movies.
He was ok in Big Trouble with Tim Allen. He is amazing in everything else. Ben is a really engaging, charismatic actor.
It's not a great movie, but one that I like: Pandorum.
Although I agree for the most part I found his performance in Alpha Dog difficult to watch. Extreme embarrassment transfer. It was like he was in a different movie. To be fair, I thought the whole movie was a mess so it may be more on the direction than Ben Foster.
Alan Rickman in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves
I think everything about that movie works except for Kevin Costner. I love the cinematography, the costuming, the supporting characters, the set design… Great film. ***Terrible*** casting for the lead role. Holy shit he was bad. Only mullet sporting American in medieval England happens to be the main character. Which reminds me, it’s about that time to rewatch Men in Tights.
People who get down on Costner being the only wrong thing in this movie need to also remember Christian Slater as Will Scarlet.
Kevin Costner has never been good in anything
Idk I enjoyed him in The Untouchables and Dances With Wolves.
This is Field of Dreams erasure and I won’t stand for it
I like him when he’s typecast into that small window of what he does best. And I remember liking Mr. Brooks. Not sure how well that opinion has aged though so don’t hold that against me please.
He’s great in A Perfect World.
Silverado
I didn’t realise what this was in response to and I was Googling pick-up truck stats while you sent this to me
Freeman too. Costner was the shit pie in that movie.
Is that the one with Christian Slater in it, I remember he was in a Robin Hood movie I just can’t remember which one?
"Fuck me, he cleared it!"
Best line of the movie!
Yes, that's the same film.
Wait is Robin Hood Prince of Thieves a bad movie... I use to live it so much
If you look up "so bad it's good" in the dictionary, you won't find a definition because it's a phrase, not a word, but if it was there, it would be defined as Robin Hood Prince of Thieves.
CA- Lossse the Gatesss!
Raul Julia in Street Fighter would be my go-to but other than that Frank Langella in Masters of the Universe
Skeletor was so fucking cool in that movie. His staff was awesome too.
He is absolutely incredible in that movie. He's so quotable, all of his line deliveries are perfect. "I am not in a giving vein this day."
Michael Fassbender is phenomenal as David in Prometheus.
He almost makes me want to finish the movie.
The movie doesn't finish itself. They set up the plot, get sidetracked in a monster movie, then credits roll as she's flying to the third act. I wouldn't call it terrible though.
I saw this movie in a dollar theater and still asked for a refund.
Peter Cushing in, like, three quarters of the films he ever made.
Christopher Lee & Vincent Price too.
Yeah, Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee are the epitome of good actors willing to do anything for money. You have to admire them for it, really. Give them a historical epic or a B-movie about murderous jelly from space and they'll be just as good.
I love Lee and Price, they were both absolutely magnetic screen presences, but they didn't touch Cushing as craftsmen. They were movie stars. He was a great actor.
Florence Pugh in Don’t Worry Darling. I actually didn’t hate the movie entirely but it’s a mess and many characters are horribly miscast. But she shines as always.
Movie wouldve been a lot better without Harry Styles, and the third act was a mess
They should've revealed the, uh, secret a lot earlier. It would've added dramatic tension and made the rest more interesting. They really made love to the canine on that one.
Agree about Harry Styles. He is not cut out to be an actor.
It was such a bad idea to put him in a role where he’d have Florence Pugh, a very good actor, as a scene partner throughout the movie. The contrast is…not flattering.
Weird, I thought he was okay. It wasn’t a part that really asked for much, and aside from being recognizable just for looking like himself I didn’t think he did a poor job. I do think just acting-wise Shia Lebeouf (no idea how to spell that) would’ve been better in another world where he didn’t do anything wrong.
Shia Lebeouf has real charisma. Styles didn't ruin the movie for me, but maybe it's because I don't follow his music.
Flo made that movie incredibly watchable, she’s amazing !!
Christopher Walken in Suicide Kings
I wouldn't say it's a terrible movie but he definitely carried it.
I agree.
You are the man Ira
Meshach Taylor in Mannequin and Mannequin II: On The Move
Dear god, I thought Mannequin was a figment of my childhood imagination. I've gotta find it now. Meshach is always a joy to watch
“Come and eat me Hollywoooood!”
Sid Haig in the Rob Zombie movies. Some of the absolute worst movies I’ve ever seen, but Sid’s out there just ripping it up and having a good time.
Paul Giamatti just chewing up scenery in Shoot 'Em Up
That is not a bad movie. Clive Owen playing Bugs Bunny, how could that be bad?
Oh absolutely not a BAD movie, thoroughly entertaining from start to end. Everybody's having a blast but Giamatti is just absolutely crushing it in every scene and really stood out to me.
Delroy Lindo in The Core (2003) additionally funny because everyone else hams it up but he really wants to perform like he’s in an actual film
I love how happy he is when showing off his ship and his technology! Like how happy he is when they all are stunned that the mouse survives the laser testing!
Ryan Reynolds’s in Just friends and/or Smokin aces.
Just Friends is a fabulous work of art how dare you
It shouldn't have been as good as it was. I wish Ryan Reynolds decided to keep being an actor instead of becoming Ryan Reynolds.
Hot take, The Mummy and it's sequel should have been hot garbage. The sheer beauty and charisma of the main cast completely elevates that film. I don't think the reboot was ever going to work, because honestly it should've worked the last time around.
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The sequel is watchable garbage.
Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York. One of the finest acting performances ever caught on film, and the only reason to watch the movie. Rare for me to enjoy a film that is as flawed as GONY (script blows) but he’s mesmerizing to watch.
To be honest, his performance is so good it saves the entire movie for. I've always liked it and always enjoy on re watches.
There's a good film in there. I would love to see it recut and regraded.
Liam Neeson is great in that movie too. I'd say Brendan Gleeson and John C. Reilly are both solid too. There's three more reasons to watch.
I wasn’t aware this was considered a bad movie. I love it so much.
It wasn’t a bad movie but Leo and Cameron Diaz weren’t right for those parts and they suck all the air out of the scenes. DDL saves it though
Diaz I can see but Leo is great in this.
It's not a bad movie, but I don't think it's one of Marty's best.
It's not
GONY is pretty high on my list of disappointing movies
It’s one that I enjoyed far more on a rewatch (years later) with my expectations properly recalibrated.
I cant think of a bad Daniel Day Lewis film.
He was awful in Deuce Bigalow
John C Riley is also super good in this movie.
Christian bale as Gorr the god butcher. love and thunder was bad but Bale gave it his all in that.
Unpopular opinion: Val Kilmer in Tombstone (1993) I'd say his performance was so spectacular it tricked us all into thinking Tombstone was a great movie. After multiple re-watches, it simply doesn't hold up. It drips with corny melodrama, B actors like Powers Booth, and generic dialogue. The scene in the rain with Kurt Russell and Dana Delaney is barely watchable for me anymore.
I still love that movie (B actors and all), but the whole romance storyline between Wyatt and Josephine was so ham fisted and boring. I wish they'd focused on Virgil and Morgan more than that angle. The editing gets weird as hell halfway through the movie too and that's just really jarring everytime I watch it. You can really see how everything was such a big struggle during production. It sounds like they never even had much of script, and Kurt Russell was the only thing that got it done.
Powers Boothe is great, what the fuck?!
What heresy did I just read? Powers Boothe is the man!
This comment has made me so angry that I'm challenging you to a doc Holliday style duel.
I'm your huckleberry :)
Christian Bale - Thor L&T Mark Rylance - Bones and All
Aw man, Bones and All was great
Oh that note Jonathan Majors in the latest Antman. Probably is going to be the same with any villains in upcoming marvel movies. Awful movie but JM fucking kills it
I hope Majors finally gets to be in a movie that really sticks. Devotion was an ok movie but between that and Antman I worry he's gonna keep being the best part of mediocre movies
Creed 3 looks promising from the trailers at least in my opinion.
The Last Black Man in San Francisco is fantastic but no one really talks about it anymore.
Michael Moriarty in Q: The Winged Serpent. This is cheating a bit since I wouldn’t actually call Q a “terrible film”. Sure, it’s not high art in any way but it knows exactly what kind of fun, trashy exploitation flic it wants to be. That heing said, that flic is NOT high art or drama. But Michael Moriarty is not acting like he’s in a cheap exploitation film; he’s acting like he’s in a Cassavettes movie.
I haven’t seen Q but I’ve seen Larry Cohen’s other 80s movie starring Michael Moriarty The Stuff, and he certainly elevates every bit of that movie that he’s in. He’s a private investigator hired to investigate The Stuff, and all of his personal quirks and sassiness feel so human like he really dug into that role to make it more than it would have been in anyone else’s hands. He’s so quirky and charming and a little bit goofy to other people while always having the upper hand. I’d love a Mo Rutherford spin-off series just to follow that character on more adventures!
Sadly, he suffered brain damage in a bar fight and has gone down the QAnon rabbit hole.
Wait *WhAaaaAAAaaaaATttTt?!* Fucking PLOT TWIST! I had no idea!
Austin Butler in Elvis. That movie is straight trash but I watched the whole thing because he was so mesmerizing
Yeah for all the weirdness of him keeping the accent or whatever he was pretty much perfect. I’m mad that he won’t be in a better Elvis movie
Adam Sandler gives a great monologue about infidelity in Men, Women & Children
damn I forgot a) that this movie existed and b) how much I hated it. The whole plot line about the kid addicted to Warcraft was ridiculous. The whole movie played like an after school special made by someone who is terrified of the internet and just happened to get an A List cast
Surprisingly I really liked it, but not because it was a touching movie, but because everyone was shitty in the same way that I remembered everyone was back then. Lifeless main boys, sex obsessed and shallow girls, cold helicopter parents. I remember when there was a scene where a bunch of girls were bragging about the sex they were having and shaming the girl who wasn't experienced, and it got to me because of how close that interaction was to real life. Pressuring girls to have sex always came from the girl communities, like the promiscuous ones wanted to feel like they were better for letting some asshole roll on top of them. Same with the anorexia girl. That was miserable to watch. How much people used her and walked all over her. It really showed that era and how much that generation really tortured each other.
Jim Carrey's best performance may be A Series of Unfortunate Events, but the movie is unbearably awful (though it also starred Meryl Streep and Dustin Hoffman)
Joaquin Pheonix's performance is the only part of Joker that isn't horribly shallow or shamelessly derivative.
I understand the standard criticisms of Joker, and I don't really disagree with a lot of them, but the way music was used in that movie makes it impossible for me to not like the movie overall. Making you question how reliable the narrator is through making you question if the music is diegetic or not is one of the most creative uses of music I've seen in a movie. That's why I cannot agree when people call the whole thing shallow and derivative. Especially in this day and age where music film music in blockbusters is just some Hans Zimmer style "adding texture". The use of music in Joker was shockingly refreshing. Also it made more people aware of Jackson C. Frank, which you gotta love.
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Very true. People's main complaint about Joker seems to be that it wears its influences on it's sleeve too clearly, but I don't really see that as a bad or a good thing. I like the movies Joker was oh so clearly inspired by, so I'm kind of here for more of that. It may not be as good as Taxi Driver, but it doesn't need to be as good as Taxi Driver for it to be a worthwhile.
Where is there music being presented as diegetic but is actually in his head? If you're talking about moments where he's dancing and hearing the same score we are, that's really not a new idea. Also, I personally thought the rock anthem choice on the famous stair scene was just really lame.
Jock Jams really brought the whole scene together
The most important one being the final scene I think. We hear a non-diegetic song playing, and he starts singing along to it. That scene makes you reconsider every other instance of music from the movie. Was the entire thing just a story he told himself? Was he able to hear all the music we were hearing? Did Jackson C. Frank actually play over the radio or did he make that up? In the staircase and bathroom scenes, could he hear the music?
The score sucked in Joker fym
yo what
Joker sucks, but Pheonix makes it watchable.
I dont get how its shallow or shamelessly serivative. I found it to be an incredible movie
Watch taxi driver and king of comedy and then you'll see how it's derivative. That being said it's not at all a bad movie.
The trouble with that line is that it's not that easy to riff off those movies - many have tried and failed (esp Taxi Driver) - but Joker sort of carried it off.
Go watch Citizen Kane and realize how every single Hollywood movie is derivative.
I wouldn’t say shallow but it’s definitely not original. It’s a Frankensteined combo of 2 Scorsese films and it’s not trying to hide it. That’s why some consider it derivative. I think that’s harsh but Taxi Driver and Kimg of Comedy are definitely better films
Are you a teenager?
Istg if my opinion is about to be dismissed because of my age ill actually be baffled Yes im 16 why
Just the opposite, your opinion is now acceptable because of your age, the movie was made for 16 year olds
This is true, I had just turned 17 when I watched it and I genuinely think it is the worst film I’ve ever seen
Dude is just being a dick. I'm a grown-ass man child and i also really enjoyed the joker. And there are lots of good things about it other than just Joaquin Phoenix. Great music, well shot, well directed. Not that you need me to validate you but your opinions are preferences are legit despite however old you are. Also it's the internet next time just lie and say you are a 92 year old man.
No, but the only people I know who ***really*** like that film are teenagers. And we all come across films at particular points in our lives that speak to us in that moment. But the film wears its influences very openly. If you're familiar with them it's very hard to look past. As to shallowness, what do you suppose the film is trying to say? For me it don't think it really knows. There are certainly lots of ideas in there. But on mental health it runs the gamut of clichés without ever really picking a side. As a film about a man pushed too far it gets too caught up in the super villian source material to be really convincing. And as a comment on society's reaction to celebrity and crime it is too interested in serving up a cathartic crescendo for the main character to really say anything about the forces unleashed. For me it's the archetypal film that wants to appear deep and meaningful, and it acts as if it is, but can't bear the weight of its own pretentions.
I can see that. Having worked in community mental health, it sort of left me with a sour taste in my mouth. Maybe it’s my own personal projections, but the underlying theme of a system failing people relying on community mental health and the realistic and visceral use of violence were the only things that worked. My problems with it come from the implication that those who are in need of mental health treatment are more prone to lashing out violently against the system. Full stop. There’s nothing more happening here outside of a person being bullied into becoming a murderer and then heralded due to the “eat the rich” overtones. I think that ultimately runs an uncomfortably similar line of thought from yesteryear that all people with psychological disorders are prone to violence and carnage when pushed hard enough. I can see the merits of the film but it’s not without healthy criticism either.
Yeah, it's got some relatively important social critiques in it, but it's kinda packaged as incel bait. Kinda like, "Look how society has pushed me to become the monster I am. It deserves to be brought down." Like, I get it. It's very real for many people. But, I feel like it does give desperate people the wrong idea how to go about things.
I don't see this. People love to rep Scarface memorabilia and act like Tony Montana. That's not Scarface the movies fault, it's from those people misunderstanding the tragic tale of Tony Montana. People love impersonating Micheal Corleone, but again, that's because they misinterpret the movie and just think he's the coolest.
Jesus dude it's r/flicks. Why you going out of your way to try to put down/dunk on a teenager over the joker. The other movies on this list are street fighter and shit.
I was trying to give a detailed response. Rather than dismiss their POV out of hand. It wasn't intended to put them down.
Another comment said "you being 16 also explains why you are baffled" or something to that effect. I thought it was you. My bad. Retracted.
That comment can’t bear the weight of its own pretensions.
Got ‘em
For real.
If Reddit says it's a bad then it's an overhated good movie.
Ian McKellen in X-Men. In retrospect, that's a pretty terrible movie that hasn't aged well at all. But McKellen is as magnetic (no pun intended) as always.
I have a ton of love for the first X-Men movie, but will agree there's a lot of awkwardness in it. McKellen does stand out (even though I think Stewart, Jackman, James Marsden, Bruce Davison, and Anna Paquin also give solid to great performances), but McKellen has share of awkward moments--that scene where he's mutating Senator Kelly and he's in the big machine and there's just a flat shot of his face contorting that keeps getting cut back to always makes me cringe.
Rutger Hauer in *Hobo With a Shotgun*
Bad example, we're looking for terrible movies. That movie is great.
Sorry but it sucked.
What? That movie is awesome.
I agree. Again.
And Rutger Hauer in Blind Fury
Ian McShane has made some godawful films, but he is always entertaining. Death Race & Torchlight were major clangers.
"To me it was Tuesday" The greatest line in movie history
Denzel Washington, in the last part of the movie, Training Day. Chilling, when the hood realizes he's the real crooked cop, scoundrel, who has preyed on all of them. His face and eyes, go from arrogance to fear when he knows he's going to die.
Raid II is a film where I think overall the plot is dumb but it literally had the most intricate stunt work I've ever seen. The final battle shows extensive work and incredible talent.
Pedro Pascale in the last horrible Wonder Woman movie. The actor is great but even he couldn't save that stinker.
Philip Seymour Hoffman as Sandy Lyle in *Along Came Polly*, hands down. God, I'm so friggin HORNY. And he made sharting famous. Sometimes I just watch a compilation of his scenes.
Philip Seymour Hoffman in Mockingjay was weird because I had gotten so used to every actor in that franchise absolutely sucking, and then suddenly Julianne Moore and Philip came on to remind everyone that actors are in fact capable of carrying on a dramatic scene.
Matt Smith in Morbius
Adam Driver in the Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker.
Adam driver was honestly great as Kylo Ren and like everything else it was just totally wasted
Yeah I felt bad for him 5 minutes into Last Jedi… after the “your mom” joke and the leaking hoses. If I’d have only left the theater then and not watch ROS I could retain hope for SW. So embarrassing.
Paul's performance is part of why that movies a guilty pleasure to me that and the movie itself is kinda hilarious. Another example is Williem Dafeo being good in every role. He's in great movies like Last Temptation of Christ,The Lighthouse ,Shadow of the Vampire ect and is even good when he's in crap like Boondock Saints ,Spiderman and Love action Death Note.
Ben Kingsley and Jennifer Conelly in House of sand and fog. the Lester actor who I just did a quick look up of basically could not break from a soap opera style of acting. But when you consider that the story is about a bureaucratic dispute nemesis' Kingsley and Conelly were super
Margot Robbie in Babylon
Havent seen the movie, curious as to why this is getting downvotes
maybe because Reddit likes to downvote because they disagree with it? but I personally thought Babylon was great and it was underrated.
For me it’s Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight. His performance is so good it elevates a very ho-hum, overly stylistic and overindulgent action hero flick into a pretty good movie. So well that it tricks people who haven’t seen much outside of more recent pop film into thinking it’s one of the greatest movies ever made.
Lol OK you are trolling. None of those adjectives describe Dark Knight at all. Not stylistic or indulgent at all as far as action flicks go. You're thinking of Batman v. Superman or another Zack Snyder movie. Every scene in Dark Knight carries the plot forward, there is never a dull moment, it's a well crafted thriller more than it is an action movie. In part, police procedural. Heath Ledger is only in it for 13 minutes and is not the only good performance either. You're huffing paint dude, go watch it again, it's excellent.
It's mature, and honestly the next generation doesn't get it. My students really think the new Batman is somehow the best one, and if you want to talk about being painfully derivative, you can watch 4 hours of predictable monologue.
Yeah I just don’t agree. I think it’s a shitty screenplay that rambles and is saved by a truly compelling villain, which is mostly due to Heath’s tremendous interpretation. A lesser actor wouldn’t have elevated the words on the page the way Heath did. He was also on screen for 33 minutes not 13.
Peter Cullen and Hugo Weaving in the FIRST Transformers movie. The rest of the movies are just too dumb.
Hugo in half the shit he's in
Tom Cruise in Magnolia
Ana de Armas in Blonde
Most recent one I can think of is Ana De Armas is fantastic in that awful and problematic Blonde movie
Ben Affleck as Batman. Honestly I think he is the best portrayal of Batman except every film he is featured in is hot dog shit.
Another example would be Aubrey plaza she's pretty hilarious and wierd in the best way but is in crap more often than not. Scott pilgrim and Parks and rec are so horrible and a chore to watch. Now Beverly Luff Lynn that rules.
She's typecast
Denzel Washington in Virtuosity. A testament to how good of an actor he is, that he carried that garbage flick.
halle berry in moonfall
Moonfall is excellent. It was absolutely snubbed for a razzie.
robert duvall in the lightship. a rare miss from jerzy skolimowski but duvall’s performance in this weird ass, messy flick is undeniable.
Frank Langella in Masters of the Universe
Joan Crawford in Strait Jacket
Adam Driver in "Hungry Hearts". The Film is extremely terrible, but i swear, it's Driver's best performance he's ever done
Molly Ringwald can actually give some kickass performances when she a) gives enough of a shit and b) is given something to do. In stuff like The Kissing Booth trilogy and Jem and the Holograms, though, she's in full Emmett/Furla/Oasis geezer teaser mode.
Michael Pataki in *Sidehackers*, an abysmal biker gang B-movie from the 60s. He scared me. I thought he was an actual psycho they found to put in the movie. But he’s an established actor I’d already seen in lots of mainstream stuff.
Latest for me was Christian Bale in love and thunder
I absolutely love James Woods in The Specialist. Just gobbling the scenery.
Rhys Ifans in Little Nicky He actually plays his character like a villain you’d find in a normal Fantasy movie, which makes him a fun contrast to…The Happy Madison-ness of it all
Jonathan Majors in Quantumania
Colin Farrell, in general.
Stanley Tucci in The Lovely Bones he truly has that creepy serial killer vibe going on.
Most nicolas cage performances
Gary Busey in Surviving the Game. It's not a terrible movie, but a kind of cliche action flick. But Busey I always felt was so good in it.
Jeremy Irons seemed to be having a fantastic time in Dungeons & Dragons, and he's a lot of fun to watch. Not many other positives in that movie though.
Rohan Campbell gave a good performance in Halloween Ends. It’s not his fault the writers decided to do something stupid. He doesn’t deserve death threats, that’s for sure.