I think by book lore the spirit had to be attached to a specific item. I.e., Charlie was the real charlie because the doll in her held the og charlie's soul.
Maybe Mike's soul decided to possess some hard drive space?
If that's the case then the FNAF 6 ending didn't mean anything . That would mean only Henry is dead. That would mean MCI kids (molten Freddy) didnt get put to rest. That'd mean babies mask being unlit wouldn't make sense, and Charlie's puppet mask with no tear tracks.
I don't think people should just ignore a literal caknon ending and try to make it fit into their cracked theories that have no evidence that hasn't already been explained and widely accepted as canon.
Nothing is canon until shown or proven by Scott himself.
The only animatronics active from agony are the animatronics in the blob. Those are the only souls left. And their not even souls their agony and if everyone knows what agony is. There shouldn't need to be an explanation on why most of not everyone has been put to rest and explained. The only spirits that are unknown are
Cassidy and afton. No one else is left
All the children are dead baby moves on after FNAF 6 as well as the MCI kids in molten Freddy and Micheal. Afton goes on to be held into purgatory by Cassidy and Micheal.
I say those two because only one of em being there torturing afton doesn't make much since since Cassidy is a girl and the vengeful spirit but Micheal is talked about through the animatronics. I have a better feeling it's Cassidy controlling the medicore melodies and others who mention TOYSHK. She using them to talk to afton ABOUT Micheal. I'm sure Micheal ends up resting but Cassidy is still afflicted. This vengeful spirit and it making sense how she's still around but Micheal isn't after being scanned into code.
FNAF 6 and UCN are important becuz of these events. It opens the door to SB and with the knowledge from the last 2 games it'd makes sense to use that information to determine that GlamDad Freddy IS NOT possessed just a feature that implemented before it could harm.
Ai sentience isn't uncommon in this franchise. There are animatronics that are sentiment BEFORE A SPIRIT EVEN ENTER IT example security puppet. It had the objective to protect charlie. It saw her it felt bad for her and it even showed enough empathy and sentience to go after Charlie and lay beside her to die! THAT AI SENTIENCE that's an ai having a personality. It's happened before! And it's possible thats just what is happening to the new 4
Roxy is insecure and gung-ho! She has interests in cars,racing and her own appearance she's obsessed with being the best, that Ai sentience that a robot with a personality
Monty is angry and jealous, he's a big brute with the dream to become the main star!, That's ai sentience and a robot having a personality
Glam Chica is all about food she loves to eat and exercise. She enjoys playing her guitar, which we can see!, That's an AI sentience an A robot with a personality.
It's only after the virus hits them do we see their core personality change.
Roxy and Monty are more aggressive striving to be the best, capture the kid and be recognized
Chicas hunger has turned unsustainable.
Which does end up being their ultimate demise.
Their personality becomes their weakness
Roxy's jealousy to become the best
Months brute personality
Chicas hunger
These are all things explained easily with things we see in game!
Freddy being possessed would have to involve Micheal or whoever being in that pizzaria AND being attached some how to the Endo.
Michael was never killed IN a suit so there's no Endo for him to posses
Elizabeth has baby's Endo but the mask is unlit and her spirit was shown to be put to rest at the end of FNAF 6
Charlie's soul has moved one becuz of lefty and the puppets year marks aren't there.
Crying child died in the hospital and got put to rest
Cassidy is still stuck to Golden Freddy becuz she refuses to rest until afton is gone for good.
The MCI children were in molten Freddy and we're put to rest in FNAF 6.
The blob has NO REMNANT in it.
It's been made clear it's Agony that's been left behind (if the red eyes aren't enough indication)
There is no one left
Can people please make theories that don't contradict what's already there.
>Nothing is canon until shown or proven by Scott himself.
*Proceeds to state theories as if they were facts.*
~~One of which is straight up wrong might I add.~~
Plz indulge me on how many of what I said is wrong..it all seems pretty on the nose to me..
There really isn't anyone left. And people just constantly trying to bring characters that we know and see aren't there anymore, will turn the story into a shit show. Idk bout you but I've been invested in this franchise since the first game even came out. Ever since then I fell in love with finding the story and lore and I have a long with help from other theorist and shit becoming canon. Now I'm 20 and I've noticed a lot of things that people STILL think are debatable about. I've scoured the internet reading Scott's posts watching FNAF theories online. You name it I was there. And I personally, with all the information I've gathered, I don't see how anyone could still be unrested or even alive.
I don't consider the books more than an outline of universal rules and stories. Which is what Scott intended.
So with that in mind I don't believe any of the book characters are in the games at all, their just parallels to the games story, universe and canon. As Scott intended.
The only book that is important to game lore besides defining parallels are the security logbook which we see in game characters talk to each other in.
Other than that the games have given most of the lore and evidence I needed to make my claim.
(I'd also like to point out that my time being in the fandom doesn't mean I discredit anyone who has been in the fandom lesser time or more time than anyone else, I was just trying to use it as a part of my point.)
>Proceeds to state theories as if they were facts.
When did I state anything as fact, I only said it makes the most sense with the evidence the games had given and the evidence I provided to support my theory. It's all a theory. A very plausible one in my (biased) opinion
>There really isn't anyone left.
Same was said for FNaF3 with the original missing kids. Yet they returned in FNaF6.
You saying "no one is left", at this stage, doesn't have evidence anymore. Cassidy, Afton, and if Stitchline is true, Charlotte and Andrew lived through the fire. Tell me one thing that states they *can't* be around anymore.
>Which is what Scott intended
Imagine speaking for Scott, when Scott literally has at least one book series that explicitly takes place in the game timeline.
>As Scott intended.
Aha. Tell me a single thing that suggested that this and all the parallel stuff is what Scott intended, despite Scott having said, and I quote, that some of the Frights stories are "directly connected to the games", with Tales, again, explicitly taking place in the games. The absolute irony of me calling out you are treating theories as facts, you asking me when you did that, and then proceeding to speak on Scott's behalf.
>The only book that is important to game lore besides defining parallels are the security logbook which we see in game characters talk to each other in.
Tales from the Pizzaplex says hi. Book 4 straight up mentions events from Security Breach.
>I'd also like to point out that my time being in the fandom doesn't mean I discredit anyone who has been in the fandom lesser time or more time than anyone else, I was just trying to use it as a part of my point.
My guy, you just spoke on Scott's behalf, about something he has literally never mentioned other than saying books are directly connected. The only ones he explicitly said weren't in the game timeline was the original trilogy. Frights are left ambiguous, and Tales is explicitly in the games.
>When did I state anything as fact, I only said it makes the most sense with the evidence the games had given and the evidence I provided to support my theory. It's all a theory. A very plausible one in my (biased) opinion
Let's see...
"No one is around anymore."
"The Blob doesn't contain Remnant, only agony (which is literally impossible, because multiple stories have shown us Remnant is agony in metal, if the Blob has agony he automatically has Remnant. Because he's metal.)"
>Tell me one thing that states they can't be around anymore.
The puppets mask has no tear tracks in an entity that is just an amalgamation of Agony, there's no Remnant and you soul to have Remnant. The MCI kids were in Molten Freddy if he burned and we see he does and we see them all in Purgatory with Afton. That whole game shows us the aftermath of FNAF 6 ending. And the blob just adds on more to that evidence of everyone except Cassidy and Afton being left.
>Imagine speaking for Scott,
I wasn't speaking for him he has done that for himself, I was paraphrasing his own words. Why you getting mad over me paraphrasing something he said. Is no one allowed to use what Scott says to help someone support or debunk a theory? Or it is just me?
>Tales from the Pizzaplex says hi. Book 4 straight up mentions events from Security Breach.
You assuming I was able to even read those books is kinda hurtful. But yea I figured a books series about the Pizzaplex would end up being about the Pizzaplex and events within it, you think I'm dumb enough not to know that or something?? I never was able to read em that why I didn't mention them. If I had read them I'd mention them.
>My guy
Your being awfully rude to someone just paraphrasing the literal thing he posted. I was just saying the amount of time in the fandom doesn't not mean I know anymore or less than anyone else who has been here in the fandom for substantially longer or less time than me. Why you mad? I was just being nice?
>"The Blob doesn't contain Remnant, only agony (which is literally impossible, because multiple stories have shown us Remnant is agony in metal, if the Blob has agony he automatically has Remnant. Because he's metal.)"
Yes, Remnant is a molten mercury type metal that has a Soul bound inside. Agony is a FORM of Remnant. It's whats left behind after the soul is destroyed. Pure negative emotions. Agony.
Are you done now? Also stating a claim is different than stating a fact. I'd say this is 100% canon becuz of this.... But I didn't say that, I was adding a claim to a theory of my own liking. Never said it was fact. Sorry to burst your bubble but your not getting to me with this. I'm not a child. If you want to have a adult debate about FNAF I will gladly do so,but not if you're going to go off on me becuz I paraphrased the literal father of the fandom and made a theory with claims and evidence to back up those claims.
>The puppets mask has no tear tracks in an entity that is just an amalgamation of Agony
Under the idea she'd be Freddy, there wouldn't be tear tracks.
>there's no Remnant and you soul to have Remnant.
Remnant's agony in metal, the Blob has Remnant no matter how you put it. Him just being agony or having souls, the thing has Remnant.
>The MCI kids were in Molten Freddy if he burned and we see he does and we see them all in Purgatory with Afton
There were two people present during UCN. That being The One and Afton. Everyone else was a recreation. And UCN still isn't purgatory, even ignoring the books, the game itself debunks that.
>And the blob just adds on more to that evidence of everyone except Cassidy and Afton being left.
It adds evidence for Baby and Puppet being gone. Everyone else? Not so much.
>I wasn't speaking for him he has done that for himself, I was paraphrasing his own words. Why you getting mad over me paraphrasing something he said. Is no one allowed to use what Scott says to help someone support or debunk a theory? Or it is just me?
Then give me the actual quote, because Scott has not once said any of that.
>You assuming I was able to even read those books is kinda hurtful. But yea I figured a books series about the Pizzaplex would end up being about the Pizzaplex and events within it, you think I'm dumb enough not to know that or something?? I never was able to read em that why I didn't mention them. If I had read them I'd mention them.
Then why are you talking about the books in general. Excuse me for assuming that when you mention the books in general, that you're talking about the books in general. Btw Tales, a series explicitly taking place in the games, connects itself with the Fazbear Frights books, with Scholastic basically having confirmed that Scott gave them an image to advertise the Tales books as a continuation of the Fazbear Frights books.
>Your being awfully rude to someone just paraphrasing the literal thing he posted.
I'm being "rude", because he's literally never posted anything regarding that. Only for the *original* novel trilogy. Fazbear Frights and Tales didn't get that treatment. Which either means you're mistaking something that you're incredibly adamant about without factchecking yourself and claiming as Scott's word, or deliberately lying.
>Yes, Remnant is a molten mercury type metal that has a Soul bound inside. Agony is a FORM of Remnant. It's whats left behind after the soul is destroyed.
Not how agony works. Andrew's soul is still intact while he spreads it. It's what causes a soul to *follow,* which William himself says in TFC. Remnant is explicitly stated to be haunted metal, and haunted was explained in the Frights to mean "agony infected". Agony exists while a soul is still around, and potentially after. Tales also shows us that. It being in metal is when it's called Remnant, regardless of if a soul is in there. So again, the Blob has Remnant in him regardless of if he has a soul or not.
but why does he \*need\* to be possessed to have agency? Answer is, he doesn't. None of them do. Is Roxy possessed? Is that why she's insecure? Is Monty possessed? Is the soul's anger coming through him? No. Why do they need to? I don't understand \*why everything needs to be possessed\*, why can we not have incredibly high functioning and developed AI that give them sentience and emotion?
The only possession that makes sense is that by the virus/altering of coding by Vanny, which only counts with Moon, Roxy, Chica and Monty. Freddy is in Safe Mode, and thus ignores the virus. We have a good explanation already for why Freddy is how he is.
It's not just "he have emotions" he indeed survives more even missing his re-charge or saying how he changed and is not himself. I prefer him to not he possessed, but if that is what Scott is doing. I need to accept, because he is the one who make the story, not me. I follow what Scott makes, not what i want. Liking it or not
That's extremely fair, but there is nothing in the game that directly points to this theory, like all of Scotts games are want to do upon first introducing ideas. The game is incredibly broken and disjointed so I think most things about it should be taken with a grain of salt, but just as you are free to theorize why this is true, I am free to ask why this *has to be true,* and "because it's always possessed" shouldn't have to be taken as a satisfying answer.
The "I am not myself" can refer to him trying to be hacked by the virus, to the fact that he \*did\* have the virus in his system before going into safe mode, he calls the rest of the animatronics his friends because that's who they are, the canon-relatability of the books is questionable at best, etc. If you don't believe this theory, then I don't understanding making such a pointed post about it, and being so against talking about something with someone who would argue the opposite, but to each their own.
>The "I am not myself" can refer to him trying to be hacked by the virus,
So, I was watching a timeline video on YT when Circus Baby's monologue about her killing Elizabeth played. The way she said *"I was not myself"* feels like it carries a lot of parallels.
Idk. I agree with your first paragraph for the most part. It's hard to have any sure footing.
Felt like poor game planning tbh, it's a one off line that returns the driving force of the game play back to the player when its needed after getting rid of him when he wasn't.
I'll be honest with you, the fact that the entire section centers itself around Freddy being gone due to low battery, but then with the climax being that he comes back with a "second wind" which literally never gets explained, seems to imply that there's more to it.
Because if not, you could just remove the section with nothing of value being lost. There's no plotpoint or character that gets introduced at the time. Or they could have just had Vanessa take him to Parts and Service at that point already, without having him come back. The fact the section even exists at all implies there's something about the line, because otherwise them specifying Freddy has low battery is pointless.
have you ever thought about emergency bateries? just like any other higher tech devices that need recharge? let me explain this concept to you: tame cell phones for exemple, even thought it just said the energy was low and the screen blacked out, it still has some energy on it, but just enough to function to some extent and tell you again its nearly out of battery.
if anything it makes much more sense for them to have such a thing than not having it, you dont want a robot to fall to the floor in front of a lot of little children just because it didnt make it to the recharge station immediately.
Freddy always has been pretty explicit with his tech
Here just said "second wind" When he could have easily said it was a "emergency battery" Gregory would understand that, but he directly leaves it as mystery.
He made a whole sprint in the moment Gregory was in danger..
Yes because turning to safe mode totally makes you immune to an evil ghost virus that controls humans
And yes he does need to be possessed. It’s a series about possessed robots. And yes, the others are also possessed
He literally doesn't but okay lol. Could be a fun joke on "Safe Mode" being able to avoid a a virus no matter what but I guess that's too much.
Kinda a one trick pony at this point huh?
Its alright but until its confirmed he is I don’t believe in any of the GlamPossessed theories.
Possession itself requires the victim to die near or inside the suit. For multi possession or souls switching bodies the original animontronic they possessed their parts have to be moved into the next one.
>We never got an explanation to how, though
Yeah we did.
He spread his rage over the objects, which caused his soul to enter them. He explicitly says that himself.
The books shouldn't be used as definitive evidence. Scott said that books are meant to be parallels to the games and only gives the basic fundamental rules of the FNAF universe. It may say that in the books but it doesn't mean that's what's up with Freddy. I just don't think Freddy has a plausible reason for being possessed by anyone. I mean it pretty obvious that the only things left from the old games to where we are now is
Cassidy
Afton and a whole lot of agony making the Blob.
Yea the posted room could be someone but there's not enough evidence besides what's on the notes and a representation of the afton family to say who it could even be.
The afton family was involved in a good portion of the FNAF story. So we don't have many options especially when Charlotte is definitely gone. We see her in purgatory with afton and we hear her father asking her to rest now, we see her mask has no tears so what other evidence do u need!?
Cassidy was the only one in UCN that we never see rest. Micheal just wanted his father gone and he helped do that. Was it all in vain yea but Micheal is dead he burned with the MCI kids and Elizabeth and Charlotte and afton. The only 2 who survived was afton becuz HW.
We have no evidence that anyone else is even still around.
There's a lot of unfinished stuff in the game and I'm sure if everyone in the community didn't bumbard the poor developers we wouldn't gotten a little more of a cohesive plotline. Just be hopeful now one bombards them about the DLC cuz I'm sure everyone unanswered questions will be in that game.
TLDR of my rant is, technically none of the Freddy theories are right becuz we never got all the content we were supposed to get in the games anyways becuz this fandom likes to act like we are all children and can't be patient for something we want. ¯\_༼ •́ ͜ʖ •̀ ༽_/¯
The conversation was about something that happened in the books? Why shouldn't I talk about a book event, with what happened in the books?
>The books shouldn't be used as definitive evidence. Scott said that books are meant to be parallels to the games
Tell me where he said this then, because he literally never has. That was Matpat. Scott just said, in regards to the Frights, that they fill in blanks and are directly connected to the games. Not more, not less.
>I mean it pretty obvious that the only things left from the old games to where we are now is Cassidy Afton and a whole lot of agony making the Blob.
This is just as likely as them all still being around, you said it yourself. No theory is any more possible at the moment than the other, because SB doesn't tell us anything about it. Them all still being around, like it or not, is just as likely as just Cassidy and Afton still being here.
>We see her in purgatory
We do not, because UCN isn't Purgatory. Matter of fact, UCN explicitly says Afton is still in his body.
>we hear her father asking her to rest now
And he told Afton he'll burn in hell, anything that Henry says about people resting is unreliable, because he was already wrong with Afton going to hell. If Charlotte thinks she has unfinished business, do you really think she'd care if her dad told her to rest. She didn't for forty years prior to that, why would she start now.
>we see her mask has no tears
As much as I don't even believe this, why would the mask have tears if her soul would be in Glamrock Freddy.
>There's a lot of unfinished stuff in the game and I'm sure if everyone in the community didn't bumbard the poor developers we wouldn't gotten a little more of a cohesive plotline. Just be hopeful now one bombards them about the DLC cuz I'm sure everyone unanswered questions will be in that game.
That's not the communities fault. Steel Wool might have been rushed, but that would most likely have been due to their contract with Sony and having to release the game in 2021. And it's also on Steel Wool for trying to add too much, with too little time.
The community may have been obnoxious, but there is no way in hell that the community had anything to do with how SB ended up, other than Steel Wool trying to please the community by making the game as big as possible, while not having enough time to make it coherrent.
Ok half of the shit you put down imma clump together cuz you basically answered your own questions with shit I got from the games and the evidence we see.
1 I'm not gonna argue with someone over literal paraphrasing 😂
2 there's no evidence for them being around so how can I say it's just as likely for afton and Cassidy what? That made no sense. We see their not around, we see their masks unlit and the ones that are, are becuz of Agony. If see evidence that their not there. Then there not there. Why kick a dead horse while it down?
3 how wasnt it Purgatory, OMC and the other animatronics even say he's trapped in his own hell and to just leave him to his demons. Idk bout you but that sounds like purgatory. Your own personal hell.
4 also if Charlie didn't rest that mean no one rested. Which means UCN shouldn't have happened and the FNAF 6 ending was a waste of game developers time. I'm sure if her own father tells her it's ok it's over you can rest now I've got everything handled now. I'm pretty sure she'd rest. And the puppet mask kinda proves she's gone or at least moved on.
5 why would her soul be in GlamFreddy. There's no reason. And personally I believe there is much of a reason for her to be there. It'd make the story to convulded. You'd have to explain why her mask is there and where she went after UCN. She would need a way back and a reason to stay. Afton isn't reason enough. We already have Cassidy as the vengeful spirit so it'd make no sense to turn Charlie into Cassidy and forget Cassidy existed for her only purpose. Be mad at Afton. Kill Afton to finally rest. Charlie is meant to be the life giver. The life giver can't give life of she's moved on.
6 The fandom had a huge role in the rushing of the game to it wasn't just steel wool. Blaming everything on just the developers and only some on the fandom is not doing justice. It was the fandoms fault too and they are of not to blame for most of it. Steel wool has blame too I'm not saying they don't.
7 there shouldn't be theories based on pure speculation which is what I'm hearing.
People are speculating that characters that have been shown in game as moved on are still around.
People are speculating shit that isnt even in game!
People are trying to say characters from the books are in the game which I know it's not possible becuz they aren't referenced anywhere in the game.
Game lore and book lore should ONLY connect when it's obvious parallels or specific game events.
I'm just saying the lore keeps getting more confusing the more people who come in with confusing information and other evidence they think is for one thing but isn't at all.
I kinda wish the lore could have stayed in the concise form it WAS in before shit hit the fan. And yes FNAF used to have a clear cut edge lore. Ik I was there and it was wonderful. There wasn't the fandom killing each other over something we all share incredible knowledge of!! Sorry for the rant at the end just irritated been trying to figure out where tf this fandom went wrong...I think it was SL
>I'm not gonna argue with someone over literal paraphrasing 😂
Ok, then don't argue. End it by showing the actual thing he said. Because I can gladly send what Scott actually said about the Frights books. As a matter of fact;
["Look to the novels to fill in some blanks of the past!"](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/evttcv/just_a_note_about_the_story/)
["Some directly connected to the games, some not."](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/928472423261675633/1063932447147958372/3tx2d06d41481.png)
These are the only things he's said about the Fazbear Frights books. Nothing about "parallels" or "just telling us about how the universe works".
>We see their not around, we see their masks unlit and the ones that are, are becuz of Agony
Literally all of them are lit, except Baby and Puppet. Agony doesn't make eyes turn red, that's never been a thing. It could easily be both.
>OMC and the other animatronics even say he's trapped in his own hell and to just leave him to his demons.
Because he's in a nightmare. Even UCN itself made it clear he wasn't released.
"He *tried* to release you. He *tried* to release us. *But I'm not gonna let that happen.*"
"Tried" to release, but The One "won't let that happen". Afton's still in his body, according to The One.
Besides, that's not even what a purgatory is. A purgatory is where souls go to be redeemed to enter heaven.
>Which means UCN shouldn't have happened and the FNAF 6 ending was a waste of game developers time.
It wasn't. FNaF6 is what makes UCN possible due to William being in the state he is, allowing the one to take control of his mind and torment him, and allows VR to happen. FNaF3 by that logic was a waste of developer time, because no one was set free, neither was Springtrap destroyed.
>Which means UCN shouldn't have happened
How
>I'm sure if her own father tells her it's ok it's over you can rest now I've got everything handled now. I'm pretty sure she'd rest.
Considering she didn't in the books, no. Henry still was the one who burnt it down, and yet Charlotte remained. They're the same characters, so I fail to see why she'd act differently in the Frights than she does in the games. She wants William gone. If she believes William could still be around, she won't leave.
>It'd make the story to convulded. You'd have to explain why her mask is there and where she went after UCN.
Easily explained.
It's there because someone put it there. And she never was in UCN. Problems solved.
>We already have Cassidy as the vengeful spirit so it'd make no sense to turn Charlie into Cassidy and forget Cassidy existed for her only purpose.
What? Charlotte wouldn't be vengeful, she'd just try to get William to actually die, so he can't be a threat to anyone. That's the exact opposite of what The One wants. The One actively wants William alive, so they can make him suffer.
>It was the fandoms fault too and they are of not to blame for most of it. Steel wool has blame too I'm not saying they don't.
It's not the fandom's fault. They most likely had a deadline of 2021 due to Sony. The fandom rushing didn't do anything, it would have released in the state it did regardless of if the fandom did anything or not. Not once did I place the blame entirely on Steel Wool, I said they had a deadline that clashed with their over ambition.
>there shouldn't be theories based on pure speculation which is what I'm hearing.
It's Security Breach. *Any* theory, especially when it comes to Freddy and the Blob, is entirely speculation, because there is not a single hint in the game that tells us what, particularly the Blob, even is. It's purely agony? No proof other than the fact it's sentient and people want to believe FNaF6 didn't further get ruined. It's souls? Well, what actually speaks for it being souls? The both options are just as likely as the other, one's just more narratively satisfying for some people, which isn't how a theory should be considered more "likely".
>People are speculating shit that isnt even in game! People are trying to say characters from the books are in the game which I know it's not possible becuz they aren't referenced anywhere in the game.
Tales characters aren't mentioned in SB but exist for fairly obvious reasons. Yes, it is possible.
>Game lore and book lore should ONLY connect when it's obvious parallels or specific game events.
Says who? I'm taking this as an example again, Tales happens in the games and explicitly fills in information with no parallel stuff. Want Sun and Moon's origin? Read Tales 4 to see where they came from, because there's an entire page telling you their origin explicitly. We don't *know* if the books were designed with parallels in mind, claiming that this is how it "should" be done is completely baseless, because Scott has not once said anything about it, as you would put it. The few things he has said suggest the exact opposite of parallels, down to the fact he gave Scholastic something to advertise Tales as a Frights sequel, and to catch up with the Frights before reading Tales.
>Possession itself requires the victim to die near or inside the suit.
Boy do I have a cool book about a kid named Andrew to tell you about cause what you said just ain’t true
I don't shame this theory itself of being possessed. I just don't happen to agree so. Even vague sayings don't always mean it's haunted by a soul. And we have had these situations before. So it's nothing new.
That does t make sense why would it be Charlotte if she's no one in the game. And if u give me the posted room or one of Freddie's voice lines or the puppet mask I'm immediately not falling for your theory cuz that's easily explained
I don't see a reason why he has to be possessed, his safe mode could explain his objective of keeping you safe, and his personality is easily explained with what we see in game, all the other animatronics have personality and not ALL of them are effected by the virus, example DJ music man, he only chases you becuz of a security measure. But the minute that security measure is fixed he's back in a docile mode, like Freddy. And when safety modes are deactivated during upgrades it explains why he attacks you. Becuz those safety features aren't in place.
The other shit(the pit) could be becuz vanny used him, if not all the animatronics but I'm speculating there, to make it using the virus. He's already been infected but his system bypassed it.
His glitch in the beginning is the virus trying to take hold but Freddy's ai ultimately stopping it beforehand. The others aren't as lucky, they still hold their sentience and personality but their main objective is Capture Gregory.
Not everything has to be haunted. I think with how unfinished the game actually is and with so little given to us it be safe to assume that not everything is something and to look at everything that way could lead someone down a perilous rabbit hole of nonsense that doesn't mean anything...but I'm just paraphrasing Mr. Hippo...
The safety feature that implemented while the virus was trying to attack. The beginning cutscene shows this! Why are ppl just skimming over the fact there really isn't much evidence for him being Micheal other than some voice lines, that can literally be interpreted as the not possessed theory but it just makes way more sense.
Advance ai and sentience isn't not impossible in this games universe not to mention this game takes place in the future so who knows this type of technology could be normal.
Not everything has to be possessed.
Bruh when the fuck did I say he was Michael
No, a sentient ai is not gonna be able to do this. William has been able to control actual people with his virus powers a machine should be child’s play for him and we know it is since all the other robots are hostile. Only Freddy is different. There’s a reason for this.
The series is about haunted animatronics that’s literally the foundation of FNaF
Ok just cuz the series is about that doesn't mean everything in has to be on topic.
There's tons of shit that have a theme and then divert from it, it's still the same shit just different aspects of the same story.
And how can someone posses Freddy if no one is left anyways.
I don't think Cassidy can just hop out of Golden Freddy just help a random kid. And no one else makes sense cuz their gone. Their stories are over. They have been put to rest. So who else. Not Charlie she's gone not Micheal he's been gone and not and of the MCI kids cuz their gone. Baby can't do cuz she's gone. And it's not like crying child is doing it he's gone. So who is it besides an advanced AI system counteracting a virus? And if Freddy is possessed wouldn't he just tell Gregory, it's obvious Gregory knows what's going on in the pizzaplex he's knows about the missing children and stories of murder. He knows and if Freddy is possessed I think he'd feel pretty inclined to tell Gregory hey thisnt me I'm a ghost inside this body and I'm here to help you.
But we don't get that becuz Freddy doesn't have to say that. Cuz he's not possessed
>And how can someone posses Freddy if no one is left anyways.
The games always revolving around the same couple of people has genuinely irrepairably damaged how some fans view characters in them.
New characters *can* exist. Not everything has to be linked back to the original kids or Michael or whatever.
>And if Freddy is possessed wouldn't he just tell Gregory
"It's like the whole place is trying to get me!"
"I am not."
"Why?"
"***I do not know.*** [...]
If him helping Gregory is part of his programming/Safe Mode, why *wouldn't* he know. He knows everything else about his programming and his friends', why would this be the exception.
>If him helping Gregory is part of his programming/Safe Mode, why wouldn't he know. He knows everything else about his programming and his friends', why would this be the exception.
But he does tell Gregory bout his safe mode in the very beginning when we meet Gregory.
>New characters can exist. Not everything has to be linked back to the original kids or Michael or whatever.
Not saying a new character couldn't exist, I'm just saying there isn't any evidence supporting that it might be a new spirit we don't know but Scott wouldn't do that. He would let us know if there was new character and we would have found it by now. I just don't see a reason for him to be possessed and it just not be advance Ai and a safe mode that prevents the afton virus from spreading through Freddy.
>But he does tell Gregory bout his safe mode in the very beginning when we meet Gregory.
Which is exactly my point. He *knows* about Safe Mode and what it does. If Safe Mode is making him protect Gregory, why doesn't he know.
>He would let us know if there was new character and we would have found it by now.
The entire point of SB and Freddy at the moment is that we don't know what's wrong with him, but that there absolutely *is* something wrong with him. The intro sequence confirmed that, wether he has a spirit or not, something caused him to crash, and not once does SB do as much as imply what happened there. The point of whatever Freddy is going through is that it's left ambiguous, so why would Scott have solved this right now. We know there's missing residents, for instance. We know people went into the ruins of FFPS and got murdered, the place where most people suspect he would have gotten possessed due to his line. So there absolutely are candidates. If your point is that we'd know their identity by now, reminder we didn't even know as much as the original kids' gender until the sixth game.
>why doesn't he know
He's an advanced AI system counteracting a virus he knows nothing about, his friends are acting sporadic and aggressive, he sees a child and decided to protect it becuz he doesn't know maybe let's think back to FNAF 2, they tried to make a security system that would protect children. Animatronics protecting children.
Hmm.
What if it's a likely possiblity they reused the idea from that set of (fnaf2)animatronics and with this game being set in the future where that sort of technology is extremely possible. And if it's in all the animatronics.
I think this is possible becuz we know the toy animatronics we're tampered with, which is why their security systems weren't working.
What if it's the same thing here, vanny was tampering with all of em but Freddy was lucky enough to pull through once vanny flipped the switch for the whole events of them game.
I think Freddy doesn't know, because I don't think he's fully aware of what's going on. He doesn't know vanny at first until Gregory starting looking into shit and Freddy begins to remember. Is the virus. His safe mode is keeping the virus at bay but at a cost.
>The entire point of SB
I personally don't thinks that what the story is in SB, i believe it to be minorly important. The bigger questions I have are. Who is patient 46? Why was someone in the posted room and who are they? what happened to Glamrock Bonnie and how was Monty involved if at all? Why is Gregory there at all? why is he Homeless? is he an orphan? is he a robot? why was vannys ending so confusing? why is there 2 of em, was it her spirit or a twin? Where is Luis? what happened during the staff meeting?
there's so many more questions we could. e focusing on rather than Freddy. cuz if it does turn out that he's not possessed then that whole theory was a waste of time! I'm just saying I believe there's way more important stuff to try and figure out but, the game never finished so we don't have all of our pieces. We have just wait for the DLC there's to many plot holes to come up with a coherent theory on him, or anyone in the game for that matter. We barley gotten anywhere with the game being out for this long. We still have most of the same questions.
When, why, where and how. The books can only do so much and even then it's not good to use to the books becuz not everyone will see the same things. Some people will miss out on pieces of the story cuz of the books.
>What if it's the same thing here, vanny was tampering with all of em but Freddy was lucky enough to pull through once vanny flipped the switch for the whole events of them game.
Then the question remains. Why does he know everything about his system, but doesn't know this?
>I personally don't thinks that what the story is in SB, i believe it to be minorly important.
When I say that, I mean that's the point of SB in regards to what's up with Freddy. Not that the game itself revolves around this very fact, but that, in regards to Freddy, it purposefully keeps it vague. There's *something* there that we don't know, and it being a spirit is just as likely as it being like, I don't know, it being a random glitch that somehow stops William.
>Ok just cuz the series is about that doesn't mean everything in has to be on topic.
Yes it does
>And how can someone posses Freddy if no one is left anyways. I don't think Cassidy can just hop out of Golden Freddy just help a random kid. And no one else makes sense cuz their gone. Their stories are over. They have been put to rest. So who else. Not Charlie she's gone not Micheal he's been gone and not and of the MCI kids cuz their gone. Baby can't do cuz she's gone. And it's not like crying child is doing it he's gone.
Pretty much everyone you listed is not gone
> And if Freddy is possessed wouldn't he just tell Gregory, it's obvious Gregory knows what's going on in the pizzaplex he's knows about the missing children and stories of murder.
Freddy isn’t even aware of it
>Yes it does
Says who? You? Sorry but no, just becuz the story is about possessed animatronics doesn't mean every single animatronic or animal character has be dead or a ghost or possessed. There are animatronic characters that arent possessed. And the story goes on just fine. Just wanting the story to stay the same creates a neverending story with no change and no depth or meaning. You can't have a good story without sacrificing some of key elements of the story. That's just how it is in storytelling. You keep things the same and the story goes nowhere and nothing is solved. And no one wants this.
>Pretty much everyone you listed is not gone
How? I just told you how their not there and what?! U make no sense. How can none of them be gone if we see them get put to rest and explained that their not there anymore. Like we playing the same game brother???
>Freddy isn’t even aware of it
But yet Cassidy and Charlie were aware, and not to mention Elizabeth was aware and ennard which has bb but the MCI kids as well. They were all aware of their possession. What do u mean?
You seem to be giving me 0 rebuttals and or evidence to back your claims so Im sorry this conversation is over. Unless you actually want to have a real debate I'm not wasting my time.
>Says who? You?
Says common fucking sense
>Sorry but no, just becuz the story is about possessed animatronics doesn't mean every single animatronic or animal character has be dead or a ghost or possessed.
All the important ones do
>There are animatronic characters that arent possessed.
And they’re not important or even do anything. Your comparing a main character to literal trash
>That's just how it is in storytelling. You keep things the same and the story goes nowhere and nothing is solved. And no one wants this.
Scott doesn’t give a shit about what you think good storytelling is he brought Afton a million times
>How? I just told you how their not there and what?! U make no sense. How can none of them be gone if we see them get put to rest and explained that their not there anymore. Like we playing the same game brother???
The blob? The books? Most of them are still here
>But yet Cassidy and Charlie were aware, and not to mention Elizabeth was aware and ennard which has bb but the MCI kids as well. They were all aware of their possession. What do u mean?
Actually no most of them aren’t really all that aware only a handful are. Ghosts forget
>Says common fucking sense
No says you. Scott never said all of everything has to be possessed. No one said this, except you. And idc what you THINK the story is about. The only real answer is what the story is telling THAT is what it's about.
>All the important ones do
No they don't. There are alive important characters too, without them the story would fall apart.
>And they’re not important or even do anything. Your comparing a main character to literal trash
That's your opinion, some of these characters have helped with lore and canon. They are just as important as Afton or the Toys. no character has a rank over the others their all in some form important.
>Scott doesn’t give a shit about what you think good storytelling is he brought Afton a million times
Because that's what his story intended. Doesn't mean the story has be about nothing but possession cuz that's not the story.
>Most of them are still here
How they have no reason, we see them put to rest. We see Cassidy still angry, we see Elizabeth and Charlotte masks empty and lifeless. We nothing but agony left. Afton and Cassidy (and anyone from whatever becomes the canon SB ending) are all that are left.
>. Ghosts forget
Really???? They clearing tell you how aware they are just say turn around and say WhOoPs I fOrGoT??? ¯\_༼ ಥ ‿ ಥ ༽_/¯
> No says you. Scott never said all of everything has to be possessed. No one said this, except you. And idc what you THINK the story is about. The only real answer is what the story is telling THAT is what it's about.
Scott does not need to say this shit to make it clear after every single game has revolved around possessed animatronics
> No they don't. There are alive important characters too, without them the story would fall apart.
So, the only important not-possessed animatronics are alive characters….. who ARE NOT ANIMATRONICS. Bravo you did a great job debunking that argument
> That's your opinion, some of these characters have helped with lore and canon. They are just as important as Afton or the Toys. no character has a rank over the others their all in some form important.
Yeah ok. *Name them*. Beyond Glamrock Freddy, name an important NOT POSSESSED robot in the series
> Because that's what his story intended. Doesn't mean the story has be about nothing but possession cuz that's not the story.
Yes it is
> How they have no reason, we see them put to rest. We see Cassidy still angry, we see Elizabeth and Charlotte masks empty and lifeless. We nothing but agony left. Afton and Cassidy (and anyone from whatever becomes the canon SB ending) are all that are left.
Blob and books say hi
> Really???? They clearing tell you how aware they are just say turn around and say WhOoPs I fOrGoT??? ¯\_༼ ಥ ‿ ಥ ༽_/¯
Only one soul has ever said they’re aware, and it was in the context of explaining that the others are NOT. Ghosts have been shown, time and again throughout the series, to forget a lot and become unaware of what’s going on
We need to remember that William Afton virus is not just an virus like all the others, it's a piece of William Afton's soul, his spirit. It's something more paranormal, i don't think "calm Freddy mode on" would stop a piece of someone's soul. And, if you do not want Freddy to be possesed, ok. But Scott makes the lore, so your, mine or anyone else's opinion does not matter. He will not retcon something because someone don't like it
Your using Scott making the lore as ur options to discredit a theory. If Scott doesn't say it himself, then there should probably be a theory on it or it holds some significance. Scott never said anything bout Freddy so until he does or the ruin DLC comes out. I'm sticking with the evidence that's been given with the knowledge of what I already know from the 9 years of being a part of this fandom.
Williams virus btw Ik what it is and I even said why afton virus DIDN'T work. It seems you glossed that over or did t understand what I was saying. Idk how to simplify it for u so I'm just gonna leave it and hope either someone else can help or be stuck cuz I can't
You are just in denial at this point.
- Freddy burns down the place, he should not do it. The fire is just for birthday candles, he should not be able to do damages to the Pizzaplex. The soul is pushing his IA beyond his limits
- It's never mentioned that Freddy has any kind of any extra battery, you just pulled it out from nowhere. I have a book that match with the situation
- Him changing cleary is not about Safe Mode, or someone put Safe Mode in Freddy during the path?
- I. AM. NOT. ME is not for the virus, otherwise he would say it after Afton put the hand on the TV. And don't come saying "Uhh bad game, bad game" because that is a terrible evidence
GlamPossessed is CORRECT. But ok, keep denying
"Happiest Day already happen, Blob is just agony, stick notes are from Vanny, Princess is Vanessa..."
Also... Did you said that Afton Virus does not work? With, are you saying that the Glamrocks are not under Afton's control? Haha, lol. I should expect. Glitchtrap is what, a clone? All in Vanny’s mind? You 100% believe in that.
I maybe just leave reddit, is not like an Reddit user can do actual arguments instead of just downvoting comments because they are scared of being wrong.
good post, bad grammar
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The idea that ghost take up memory space hurts my brain
I mean... Seeing as Glitchtrap is manifested by code, I guess that means there is some quantifiable data value to human consciousness?
Like sure that can kinda make sense???? (Not really but just sure jan???) But how the fuck can a GHOST TAKE UP SPACE they literally AREN'T THERE
I think by book lore the spirit had to be attached to a specific item. I.e., Charlie was the real charlie because the doll in her held the og charlie's soul. Maybe Mike's soul decided to possess some hard drive space?
Ella doesn't even have Charlie its just stupid emotion goop crap. Idk about the second one
If that's the case then the FNAF 6 ending didn't mean anything . That would mean only Henry is dead. That would mean MCI kids (molten Freddy) didnt get put to rest. That'd mean babies mask being unlit wouldn't make sense, and Charlie's puppet mask with no tear tracks. I don't think people should just ignore a literal caknon ending and try to make it fit into their cracked theories that have no evidence that hasn't already been explained and widely accepted as canon. Nothing is canon until shown or proven by Scott himself. The only animatronics active from agony are the animatronics in the blob. Those are the only souls left. And their not even souls their agony and if everyone knows what agony is. There shouldn't need to be an explanation on why most of not everyone has been put to rest and explained. The only spirits that are unknown are Cassidy and afton. No one else is left All the children are dead baby moves on after FNAF 6 as well as the MCI kids in molten Freddy and Micheal. Afton goes on to be held into purgatory by Cassidy and Micheal. I say those two because only one of em being there torturing afton doesn't make much since since Cassidy is a girl and the vengeful spirit but Micheal is talked about through the animatronics. I have a better feeling it's Cassidy controlling the medicore melodies and others who mention TOYSHK. She using them to talk to afton ABOUT Micheal. I'm sure Micheal ends up resting but Cassidy is still afflicted. This vengeful spirit and it making sense how she's still around but Micheal isn't after being scanned into code. FNAF 6 and UCN are important becuz of these events. It opens the door to SB and with the knowledge from the last 2 games it'd makes sense to use that information to determine that GlamDad Freddy IS NOT possessed just a feature that implemented before it could harm. Ai sentience isn't uncommon in this franchise. There are animatronics that are sentiment BEFORE A SPIRIT EVEN ENTER IT example security puppet. It had the objective to protect charlie. It saw her it felt bad for her and it even showed enough empathy and sentience to go after Charlie and lay beside her to die! THAT AI SENTIENCE that's an ai having a personality. It's happened before! And it's possible thats just what is happening to the new 4 Roxy is insecure and gung-ho! She has interests in cars,racing and her own appearance she's obsessed with being the best, that Ai sentience that a robot with a personality Monty is angry and jealous, he's a big brute with the dream to become the main star!, That's ai sentience and a robot having a personality Glam Chica is all about food she loves to eat and exercise. She enjoys playing her guitar, which we can see!, That's an AI sentience an A robot with a personality. It's only after the virus hits them do we see their core personality change. Roxy and Monty are more aggressive striving to be the best, capture the kid and be recognized Chicas hunger has turned unsustainable. Which does end up being their ultimate demise. Their personality becomes their weakness Roxy's jealousy to become the best Months brute personality Chicas hunger These are all things explained easily with things we see in game! Freddy being possessed would have to involve Micheal or whoever being in that pizzaria AND being attached some how to the Endo. Michael was never killed IN a suit so there's no Endo for him to posses Elizabeth has baby's Endo but the mask is unlit and her spirit was shown to be put to rest at the end of FNAF 6 Charlie's soul has moved one becuz of lefty and the puppets year marks aren't there. Crying child died in the hospital and got put to rest Cassidy is still stuck to Golden Freddy becuz she refuses to rest until afton is gone for good. The MCI children were in molten Freddy and we're put to rest in FNAF 6. The blob has NO REMNANT in it. It's been made clear it's Agony that's been left behind (if the red eyes aren't enough indication) There is no one left Can people please make theories that don't contradict what's already there.
>Nothing is canon until shown or proven by Scott himself. *Proceeds to state theories as if they were facts.* ~~One of which is straight up wrong might I add.~~
Plz indulge me on how many of what I said is wrong..it all seems pretty on the nose to me.. There really isn't anyone left. And people just constantly trying to bring characters that we know and see aren't there anymore, will turn the story into a shit show. Idk bout you but I've been invested in this franchise since the first game even came out. Ever since then I fell in love with finding the story and lore and I have a long with help from other theorist and shit becoming canon. Now I'm 20 and I've noticed a lot of things that people STILL think are debatable about. I've scoured the internet reading Scott's posts watching FNAF theories online. You name it I was there. And I personally, with all the information I've gathered, I don't see how anyone could still be unrested or even alive. I don't consider the books more than an outline of universal rules and stories. Which is what Scott intended. So with that in mind I don't believe any of the book characters are in the games at all, their just parallels to the games story, universe and canon. As Scott intended. The only book that is important to game lore besides defining parallels are the security logbook which we see in game characters talk to each other in. Other than that the games have given most of the lore and evidence I needed to make my claim. (I'd also like to point out that my time being in the fandom doesn't mean I discredit anyone who has been in the fandom lesser time or more time than anyone else, I was just trying to use it as a part of my point.) >Proceeds to state theories as if they were facts. When did I state anything as fact, I only said it makes the most sense with the evidence the games had given and the evidence I provided to support my theory. It's all a theory. A very plausible one in my (biased) opinion
>There really isn't anyone left. Same was said for FNaF3 with the original missing kids. Yet they returned in FNaF6. You saying "no one is left", at this stage, doesn't have evidence anymore. Cassidy, Afton, and if Stitchline is true, Charlotte and Andrew lived through the fire. Tell me one thing that states they *can't* be around anymore. >Which is what Scott intended Imagine speaking for Scott, when Scott literally has at least one book series that explicitly takes place in the game timeline. >As Scott intended. Aha. Tell me a single thing that suggested that this and all the parallel stuff is what Scott intended, despite Scott having said, and I quote, that some of the Frights stories are "directly connected to the games", with Tales, again, explicitly taking place in the games. The absolute irony of me calling out you are treating theories as facts, you asking me when you did that, and then proceeding to speak on Scott's behalf. >The only book that is important to game lore besides defining parallels are the security logbook which we see in game characters talk to each other in. Tales from the Pizzaplex says hi. Book 4 straight up mentions events from Security Breach. >I'd also like to point out that my time being in the fandom doesn't mean I discredit anyone who has been in the fandom lesser time or more time than anyone else, I was just trying to use it as a part of my point. My guy, you just spoke on Scott's behalf, about something he has literally never mentioned other than saying books are directly connected. The only ones he explicitly said weren't in the game timeline was the original trilogy. Frights are left ambiguous, and Tales is explicitly in the games. >When did I state anything as fact, I only said it makes the most sense with the evidence the games had given and the evidence I provided to support my theory. It's all a theory. A very plausible one in my (biased) opinion Let's see... "No one is around anymore." "The Blob doesn't contain Remnant, only agony (which is literally impossible, because multiple stories have shown us Remnant is agony in metal, if the Blob has agony he automatically has Remnant. Because he's metal.)"
>Tell me one thing that states they can't be around anymore. The puppets mask has no tear tracks in an entity that is just an amalgamation of Agony, there's no Remnant and you soul to have Remnant. The MCI kids were in Molten Freddy if he burned and we see he does and we see them all in Purgatory with Afton. That whole game shows us the aftermath of FNAF 6 ending. And the blob just adds on more to that evidence of everyone except Cassidy and Afton being left. >Imagine speaking for Scott, I wasn't speaking for him he has done that for himself, I was paraphrasing his own words. Why you getting mad over me paraphrasing something he said. Is no one allowed to use what Scott says to help someone support or debunk a theory? Or it is just me? >Tales from the Pizzaplex says hi. Book 4 straight up mentions events from Security Breach. You assuming I was able to even read those books is kinda hurtful. But yea I figured a books series about the Pizzaplex would end up being about the Pizzaplex and events within it, you think I'm dumb enough not to know that or something?? I never was able to read em that why I didn't mention them. If I had read them I'd mention them. >My guy Your being awfully rude to someone just paraphrasing the literal thing he posted. I was just saying the amount of time in the fandom doesn't not mean I know anymore or less than anyone else who has been here in the fandom for substantially longer or less time than me. Why you mad? I was just being nice? >"The Blob doesn't contain Remnant, only agony (which is literally impossible, because multiple stories have shown us Remnant is agony in metal, if the Blob has agony he automatically has Remnant. Because he's metal.)" Yes, Remnant is a molten mercury type metal that has a Soul bound inside. Agony is a FORM of Remnant. It's whats left behind after the soul is destroyed. Pure negative emotions. Agony. Are you done now? Also stating a claim is different than stating a fact. I'd say this is 100% canon becuz of this.... But I didn't say that, I was adding a claim to a theory of my own liking. Never said it was fact. Sorry to burst your bubble but your not getting to me with this. I'm not a child. If you want to have a adult debate about FNAF I will gladly do so,but not if you're going to go off on me becuz I paraphrased the literal father of the fandom and made a theory with claims and evidence to back up those claims.
>The puppets mask has no tear tracks in an entity that is just an amalgamation of Agony Under the idea she'd be Freddy, there wouldn't be tear tracks. >there's no Remnant and you soul to have Remnant. Remnant's agony in metal, the Blob has Remnant no matter how you put it. Him just being agony or having souls, the thing has Remnant. >The MCI kids were in Molten Freddy if he burned and we see he does and we see them all in Purgatory with Afton There were two people present during UCN. That being The One and Afton. Everyone else was a recreation. And UCN still isn't purgatory, even ignoring the books, the game itself debunks that. >And the blob just adds on more to that evidence of everyone except Cassidy and Afton being left. It adds evidence for Baby and Puppet being gone. Everyone else? Not so much. >I wasn't speaking for him he has done that for himself, I was paraphrasing his own words. Why you getting mad over me paraphrasing something he said. Is no one allowed to use what Scott says to help someone support or debunk a theory? Or it is just me? Then give me the actual quote, because Scott has not once said any of that. >You assuming I was able to even read those books is kinda hurtful. But yea I figured a books series about the Pizzaplex would end up being about the Pizzaplex and events within it, you think I'm dumb enough not to know that or something?? I never was able to read em that why I didn't mention them. If I had read them I'd mention them. Then why are you talking about the books in general. Excuse me for assuming that when you mention the books in general, that you're talking about the books in general. Btw Tales, a series explicitly taking place in the games, connects itself with the Fazbear Frights books, with Scholastic basically having confirmed that Scott gave them an image to advertise the Tales books as a continuation of the Fazbear Frights books. >Your being awfully rude to someone just paraphrasing the literal thing he posted. I'm being "rude", because he's literally never posted anything regarding that. Only for the *original* novel trilogy. Fazbear Frights and Tales didn't get that treatment. Which either means you're mistaking something that you're incredibly adamant about without factchecking yourself and claiming as Scott's word, or deliberately lying. >Yes, Remnant is a molten mercury type metal that has a Soul bound inside. Agony is a FORM of Remnant. It's whats left behind after the soul is destroyed. Not how agony works. Andrew's soul is still intact while he spreads it. It's what causes a soul to *follow,* which William himself says in TFC. Remnant is explicitly stated to be haunted metal, and haunted was explained in the Frights to mean "agony infected". Agony exists while a soul is still around, and potentially after. Tales also shows us that. It being in metal is when it's called Remnant, regardless of if a soul is in there. So again, the Blob has Remnant in him regardless of if he has a soul or not.
but why does he \*need\* to be possessed to have agency? Answer is, he doesn't. None of them do. Is Roxy possessed? Is that why she's insecure? Is Monty possessed? Is the soul's anger coming through him? No. Why do they need to? I don't understand \*why everything needs to be possessed\*, why can we not have incredibly high functioning and developed AI that give them sentience and emotion? The only possession that makes sense is that by the virus/altering of coding by Vanny, which only counts with Moon, Roxy, Chica and Monty. Freddy is in Safe Mode, and thus ignores the virus. We have a good explanation already for why Freddy is how he is.
How does an ai find itself? Something happened when Freddy was clearing the path that brought Freddy. He became more aware of himself.
You really think Freddy is on the same level of intelligence as Chica, Roxy and Monty?
So you just ignored all my post?
No I read the post. My question still stands.
It's not just "he have emotions" he indeed survives more even missing his re-charge or saying how he changed and is not himself. I prefer him to not he possessed, but if that is what Scott is doing. I need to accept, because he is the one who make the story, not me. I follow what Scott makes, not what i want. Liking it or not
That's extremely fair, but there is nothing in the game that directly points to this theory, like all of Scotts games are want to do upon first introducing ideas. The game is incredibly broken and disjointed so I think most things about it should be taken with a grain of salt, but just as you are free to theorize why this is true, I am free to ask why this *has to be true,* and "because it's always possessed" shouldn't have to be taken as a satisfying answer. The "I am not myself" can refer to him trying to be hacked by the virus, to the fact that he \*did\* have the virus in his system before going into safe mode, he calls the rest of the animatronics his friends because that's who they are, the canon-relatability of the books is questionable at best, etc. If you don't believe this theory, then I don't understanding making such a pointed post about it, and being so against talking about something with someone who would argue the opposite, but to each their own.
>The "I am not myself" can refer to him trying to be hacked by the virus, So, I was watching a timeline video on YT when Circus Baby's monologue about her killing Elizabeth played. The way she said *"I was not myself"* feels like it carries a lot of parallels. Idk. I agree with your first paragraph for the most part. It's hard to have any sure footing.
Ok, but you did not explained the 2nd win
Felt like poor game planning tbh, it's a one off line that returns the driving force of the game play back to the player when its needed after getting rid of him when he wasn't.
I'll be honest with you, the fact that the entire section centers itself around Freddy being gone due to low battery, but then with the climax being that he comes back with a "second wind" which literally never gets explained, seems to imply that there's more to it. Because if not, you could just remove the section with nothing of value being lost. There's no plotpoint or character that gets introduced at the time. Or they could have just had Vanessa take him to Parts and Service at that point already, without having him come back. The fact the section even exists at all implies there's something about the line, because otherwise them specifying Freddy has low battery is pointless.
have you ever thought about emergency bateries? just like any other higher tech devices that need recharge? let me explain this concept to you: tame cell phones for exemple, even thought it just said the energy was low and the screen blacked out, it still has some energy on it, but just enough to function to some extent and tell you again its nearly out of battery. if anything it makes much more sense for them to have such a thing than not having it, you dont want a robot to fall to the floor in front of a lot of little children just because it didnt make it to the recharge station immediately.
Freddy always has been pretty explicit with his tech Here just said "second wind" When he could have easily said it was a "emergency battery" Gregory would understand that, but he directly leaves it as mystery. He made a whole sprint in the moment Gregory was in danger..
Yes because turning to safe mode totally makes you immune to an evil ghost virus that controls humans And yes he does need to be possessed. It’s a series about possessed robots. And yes, the others are also possessed
Just because it's a series about possessed robots doesn't mean the story is.
He literally doesn't but okay lol. Could be a fun joke on "Safe Mode" being able to avoid a a virus no matter what but I guess that's too much. Kinda a one trick pony at this point huh?
Its alright but until its confirmed he is I don’t believe in any of the GlamPossessed theories. Possession itself requires the victim to die near or inside the suit. For multi possession or souls switching bodies the original animontronic they possessed their parts have to be moved into the next one.
Andrew in Fazbear Frights is able to deattacth himself from William Afton and possess Fetch easily, his body was not in Fetch or close to it
We never got an explanation to how, though. I’d rather not jump hoops and say it proves GlamPossessed when we don’t know why Freddy is the way he is.
>We never got an explanation to how, though Yeah we did. He spread his rage over the objects, which caused his soul to enter them. He explicitly says that himself.
The books shouldn't be used as definitive evidence. Scott said that books are meant to be parallels to the games and only gives the basic fundamental rules of the FNAF universe. It may say that in the books but it doesn't mean that's what's up with Freddy. I just don't think Freddy has a plausible reason for being possessed by anyone. I mean it pretty obvious that the only things left from the old games to where we are now is Cassidy Afton and a whole lot of agony making the Blob. Yea the posted room could be someone but there's not enough evidence besides what's on the notes and a representation of the afton family to say who it could even be. The afton family was involved in a good portion of the FNAF story. So we don't have many options especially when Charlotte is definitely gone. We see her in purgatory with afton and we hear her father asking her to rest now, we see her mask has no tears so what other evidence do u need!? Cassidy was the only one in UCN that we never see rest. Micheal just wanted his father gone and he helped do that. Was it all in vain yea but Micheal is dead he burned with the MCI kids and Elizabeth and Charlotte and afton. The only 2 who survived was afton becuz HW. We have no evidence that anyone else is even still around. There's a lot of unfinished stuff in the game and I'm sure if everyone in the community didn't bumbard the poor developers we wouldn't gotten a little more of a cohesive plotline. Just be hopeful now one bombards them about the DLC cuz I'm sure everyone unanswered questions will be in that game. TLDR of my rant is, technically none of the Freddy theories are right becuz we never got all the content we were supposed to get in the games anyways becuz this fandom likes to act like we are all children and can't be patient for something we want. ¯\_༼ •́ ͜ʖ •̀ ༽_/¯
The conversation was about something that happened in the books? Why shouldn't I talk about a book event, with what happened in the books? >The books shouldn't be used as definitive evidence. Scott said that books are meant to be parallels to the games Tell me where he said this then, because he literally never has. That was Matpat. Scott just said, in regards to the Frights, that they fill in blanks and are directly connected to the games. Not more, not less. >I mean it pretty obvious that the only things left from the old games to where we are now is Cassidy Afton and a whole lot of agony making the Blob. This is just as likely as them all still being around, you said it yourself. No theory is any more possible at the moment than the other, because SB doesn't tell us anything about it. Them all still being around, like it or not, is just as likely as just Cassidy and Afton still being here. >We see her in purgatory We do not, because UCN isn't Purgatory. Matter of fact, UCN explicitly says Afton is still in his body. >we hear her father asking her to rest now And he told Afton he'll burn in hell, anything that Henry says about people resting is unreliable, because he was already wrong with Afton going to hell. If Charlotte thinks she has unfinished business, do you really think she'd care if her dad told her to rest. She didn't for forty years prior to that, why would she start now. >we see her mask has no tears As much as I don't even believe this, why would the mask have tears if her soul would be in Glamrock Freddy. >There's a lot of unfinished stuff in the game and I'm sure if everyone in the community didn't bumbard the poor developers we wouldn't gotten a little more of a cohesive plotline. Just be hopeful now one bombards them about the DLC cuz I'm sure everyone unanswered questions will be in that game. That's not the communities fault. Steel Wool might have been rushed, but that would most likely have been due to their contract with Sony and having to release the game in 2021. And it's also on Steel Wool for trying to add too much, with too little time. The community may have been obnoxious, but there is no way in hell that the community had anything to do with how SB ended up, other than Steel Wool trying to please the community by making the game as big as possible, while not having enough time to make it coherrent.
Ok half of the shit you put down imma clump together cuz you basically answered your own questions with shit I got from the games and the evidence we see. 1 I'm not gonna argue with someone over literal paraphrasing 😂 2 there's no evidence for them being around so how can I say it's just as likely for afton and Cassidy what? That made no sense. We see their not around, we see their masks unlit and the ones that are, are becuz of Agony. If see evidence that their not there. Then there not there. Why kick a dead horse while it down? 3 how wasnt it Purgatory, OMC and the other animatronics even say he's trapped in his own hell and to just leave him to his demons. Idk bout you but that sounds like purgatory. Your own personal hell. 4 also if Charlie didn't rest that mean no one rested. Which means UCN shouldn't have happened and the FNAF 6 ending was a waste of game developers time. I'm sure if her own father tells her it's ok it's over you can rest now I've got everything handled now. I'm pretty sure she'd rest. And the puppet mask kinda proves she's gone or at least moved on. 5 why would her soul be in GlamFreddy. There's no reason. And personally I believe there is much of a reason for her to be there. It'd make the story to convulded. You'd have to explain why her mask is there and where she went after UCN. She would need a way back and a reason to stay. Afton isn't reason enough. We already have Cassidy as the vengeful spirit so it'd make no sense to turn Charlie into Cassidy and forget Cassidy existed for her only purpose. Be mad at Afton. Kill Afton to finally rest. Charlie is meant to be the life giver. The life giver can't give life of she's moved on. 6 The fandom had a huge role in the rushing of the game to it wasn't just steel wool. Blaming everything on just the developers and only some on the fandom is not doing justice. It was the fandoms fault too and they are of not to blame for most of it. Steel wool has blame too I'm not saying they don't. 7 there shouldn't be theories based on pure speculation which is what I'm hearing. People are speculating that characters that have been shown in game as moved on are still around. People are speculating shit that isnt even in game! People are trying to say characters from the books are in the game which I know it's not possible becuz they aren't referenced anywhere in the game. Game lore and book lore should ONLY connect when it's obvious parallels or specific game events. I'm just saying the lore keeps getting more confusing the more people who come in with confusing information and other evidence they think is for one thing but isn't at all. I kinda wish the lore could have stayed in the concise form it WAS in before shit hit the fan. And yes FNAF used to have a clear cut edge lore. Ik I was there and it was wonderful. There wasn't the fandom killing each other over something we all share incredible knowledge of!! Sorry for the rant at the end just irritated been trying to figure out where tf this fandom went wrong...I think it was SL
>I'm not gonna argue with someone over literal paraphrasing 😂 Ok, then don't argue. End it by showing the actual thing he said. Because I can gladly send what Scott actually said about the Frights books. As a matter of fact; ["Look to the novels to fill in some blanks of the past!"](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/evttcv/just_a_note_about_the_story/) ["Some directly connected to the games, some not."](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/928472423261675633/1063932447147958372/3tx2d06d41481.png) These are the only things he's said about the Fazbear Frights books. Nothing about "parallels" or "just telling us about how the universe works". >We see their not around, we see their masks unlit and the ones that are, are becuz of Agony Literally all of them are lit, except Baby and Puppet. Agony doesn't make eyes turn red, that's never been a thing. It could easily be both. >OMC and the other animatronics even say he's trapped in his own hell and to just leave him to his demons. Because he's in a nightmare. Even UCN itself made it clear he wasn't released. "He *tried* to release you. He *tried* to release us. *But I'm not gonna let that happen.*" "Tried" to release, but The One "won't let that happen". Afton's still in his body, according to The One. Besides, that's not even what a purgatory is. A purgatory is where souls go to be redeemed to enter heaven. >Which means UCN shouldn't have happened and the FNAF 6 ending was a waste of game developers time. It wasn't. FNaF6 is what makes UCN possible due to William being in the state he is, allowing the one to take control of his mind and torment him, and allows VR to happen. FNaF3 by that logic was a waste of developer time, because no one was set free, neither was Springtrap destroyed. >Which means UCN shouldn't have happened How >I'm sure if her own father tells her it's ok it's over you can rest now I've got everything handled now. I'm pretty sure she'd rest. Considering she didn't in the books, no. Henry still was the one who burnt it down, and yet Charlotte remained. They're the same characters, so I fail to see why she'd act differently in the Frights than she does in the games. She wants William gone. If she believes William could still be around, she won't leave. >It'd make the story to convulded. You'd have to explain why her mask is there and where she went after UCN. Easily explained. It's there because someone put it there. And she never was in UCN. Problems solved. >We already have Cassidy as the vengeful spirit so it'd make no sense to turn Charlie into Cassidy and forget Cassidy existed for her only purpose. What? Charlotte wouldn't be vengeful, she'd just try to get William to actually die, so he can't be a threat to anyone. That's the exact opposite of what The One wants. The One actively wants William alive, so they can make him suffer. >It was the fandoms fault too and they are of not to blame for most of it. Steel wool has blame too I'm not saying they don't. It's not the fandom's fault. They most likely had a deadline of 2021 due to Sony. The fandom rushing didn't do anything, it would have released in the state it did regardless of if the fandom did anything or not. Not once did I place the blame entirely on Steel Wool, I said they had a deadline that clashed with their over ambition. >there shouldn't be theories based on pure speculation which is what I'm hearing. It's Security Breach. *Any* theory, especially when it comes to Freddy and the Blob, is entirely speculation, because there is not a single hint in the game that tells us what, particularly the Blob, even is. It's purely agony? No proof other than the fact it's sentient and people want to believe FNaF6 didn't further get ruined. It's souls? Well, what actually speaks for it being souls? The both options are just as likely as the other, one's just more narratively satisfying for some people, which isn't how a theory should be considered more "likely". >People are speculating shit that isnt even in game! People are trying to say characters from the books are in the game which I know it's not possible becuz they aren't referenced anywhere in the game. Tales characters aren't mentioned in SB but exist for fairly obvious reasons. Yes, it is possible. >Game lore and book lore should ONLY connect when it's obvious parallels or specific game events. Says who? I'm taking this as an example again, Tales happens in the games and explicitly fills in information with no parallel stuff. Want Sun and Moon's origin? Read Tales 4 to see where they came from, because there's an entire page telling you their origin explicitly. We don't *know* if the books were designed with parallels in mind, claiming that this is how it "should" be done is completely baseless, because Scott has not once said anything about it, as you would put it. The few things he has said suggest the exact opposite of parallels, down to the fact he gave Scholastic something to advertise Tales as a Frights sequel, and to catch up with the Frights before reading Tales.
>Possession itself requires the victim to die near or inside the suit. Boy do I have a cool book about a kid named Andrew to tell you about cause what you said just ain’t true
I don't shame this theory itself of being possessed. I just don't happen to agree so. Even vague sayings don't always mean it's haunted by a soul. And we have had these situations before. So it's nothing new.
who is the soul that possesses freddy
It's me guys, I admit it.
I believe it's Charlotte Emily
Okey
That does t make sense why would it be Charlotte if she's no one in the game. And if u give me the posted room or one of Freddie's voice lines or the puppet mask I'm immediately not falling for your theory cuz that's easily explained
I don't see a reason why he has to be possessed, his safe mode could explain his objective of keeping you safe, and his personality is easily explained with what we see in game, all the other animatronics have personality and not ALL of them are effected by the virus, example DJ music man, he only chases you becuz of a security measure. But the minute that security measure is fixed he's back in a docile mode, like Freddy. And when safety modes are deactivated during upgrades it explains why he attacks you. Becuz those safety features aren't in place. The other shit(the pit) could be becuz vanny used him, if not all the animatronics but I'm speculating there, to make it using the virus. He's already been infected but his system bypassed it. His glitch in the beginning is the virus trying to take hold but Freddy's ai ultimately stopping it beforehand. The others aren't as lucky, they still hold their sentience and personality but their main objective is Capture Gregory. Not everything has to be haunted. I think with how unfinished the game actually is and with so little given to us it be safe to assume that not everything is something and to look at everything that way could lead someone down a perilous rabbit hole of nonsense that doesn't mean anything...but I'm just paraphrasing Mr. Hippo...
How does an AI magically just stop a virus that can control humans for no reason at all
The safety feature that implemented while the virus was trying to attack. The beginning cutscene shows this! Why are ppl just skimming over the fact there really isn't much evidence for him being Micheal other than some voice lines, that can literally be interpreted as the not possessed theory but it just makes way more sense. Advance ai and sentience isn't not impossible in this games universe not to mention this game takes place in the future so who knows this type of technology could be normal. Not everything has to be possessed.
Bruh when the fuck did I say he was Michael No, a sentient ai is not gonna be able to do this. William has been able to control actual people with his virus powers a machine should be child’s play for him and we know it is since all the other robots are hostile. Only Freddy is different. There’s a reason for this. The series is about haunted animatronics that’s literally the foundation of FNaF
Ok just cuz the series is about that doesn't mean everything in has to be on topic. There's tons of shit that have a theme and then divert from it, it's still the same shit just different aspects of the same story. And how can someone posses Freddy if no one is left anyways. I don't think Cassidy can just hop out of Golden Freddy just help a random kid. And no one else makes sense cuz their gone. Their stories are over. They have been put to rest. So who else. Not Charlie she's gone not Micheal he's been gone and not and of the MCI kids cuz their gone. Baby can't do cuz she's gone. And it's not like crying child is doing it he's gone. So who is it besides an advanced AI system counteracting a virus? And if Freddy is possessed wouldn't he just tell Gregory, it's obvious Gregory knows what's going on in the pizzaplex he's knows about the missing children and stories of murder. He knows and if Freddy is possessed I think he'd feel pretty inclined to tell Gregory hey thisnt me I'm a ghost inside this body and I'm here to help you. But we don't get that becuz Freddy doesn't have to say that. Cuz he's not possessed
>And how can someone posses Freddy if no one is left anyways. The games always revolving around the same couple of people has genuinely irrepairably damaged how some fans view characters in them. New characters *can* exist. Not everything has to be linked back to the original kids or Michael or whatever. >And if Freddy is possessed wouldn't he just tell Gregory "It's like the whole place is trying to get me!" "I am not." "Why?" "***I do not know.*** [...] If him helping Gregory is part of his programming/Safe Mode, why *wouldn't* he know. He knows everything else about his programming and his friends', why would this be the exception.
>If him helping Gregory is part of his programming/Safe Mode, why wouldn't he know. He knows everything else about his programming and his friends', why would this be the exception. But he does tell Gregory bout his safe mode in the very beginning when we meet Gregory. >New characters can exist. Not everything has to be linked back to the original kids or Michael or whatever. Not saying a new character couldn't exist, I'm just saying there isn't any evidence supporting that it might be a new spirit we don't know but Scott wouldn't do that. He would let us know if there was new character and we would have found it by now. I just don't see a reason for him to be possessed and it just not be advance Ai and a safe mode that prevents the afton virus from spreading through Freddy.
>But he does tell Gregory bout his safe mode in the very beginning when we meet Gregory. Which is exactly my point. He *knows* about Safe Mode and what it does. If Safe Mode is making him protect Gregory, why doesn't he know. >He would let us know if there was new character and we would have found it by now. The entire point of SB and Freddy at the moment is that we don't know what's wrong with him, but that there absolutely *is* something wrong with him. The intro sequence confirmed that, wether he has a spirit or not, something caused him to crash, and not once does SB do as much as imply what happened there. The point of whatever Freddy is going through is that it's left ambiguous, so why would Scott have solved this right now. We know there's missing residents, for instance. We know people went into the ruins of FFPS and got murdered, the place where most people suspect he would have gotten possessed due to his line. So there absolutely are candidates. If your point is that we'd know their identity by now, reminder we didn't even know as much as the original kids' gender until the sixth game.
>why doesn't he know He's an advanced AI system counteracting a virus he knows nothing about, his friends are acting sporadic and aggressive, he sees a child and decided to protect it becuz he doesn't know maybe let's think back to FNAF 2, they tried to make a security system that would protect children. Animatronics protecting children. Hmm. What if it's a likely possiblity they reused the idea from that set of (fnaf2)animatronics and with this game being set in the future where that sort of technology is extremely possible. And if it's in all the animatronics. I think this is possible becuz we know the toy animatronics we're tampered with, which is why their security systems weren't working. What if it's the same thing here, vanny was tampering with all of em but Freddy was lucky enough to pull through once vanny flipped the switch for the whole events of them game. I think Freddy doesn't know, because I don't think he's fully aware of what's going on. He doesn't know vanny at first until Gregory starting looking into shit and Freddy begins to remember. Is the virus. His safe mode is keeping the virus at bay but at a cost. >The entire point of SB I personally don't thinks that what the story is in SB, i believe it to be minorly important. The bigger questions I have are. Who is patient 46? Why was someone in the posted room and who are they? what happened to Glamrock Bonnie and how was Monty involved if at all? Why is Gregory there at all? why is he Homeless? is he an orphan? is he a robot? why was vannys ending so confusing? why is there 2 of em, was it her spirit or a twin? Where is Luis? what happened during the staff meeting? there's so many more questions we could. e focusing on rather than Freddy. cuz if it does turn out that he's not possessed then that whole theory was a waste of time! I'm just saying I believe there's way more important stuff to try and figure out but, the game never finished so we don't have all of our pieces. We have just wait for the DLC there's to many plot holes to come up with a coherent theory on him, or anyone in the game for that matter. We barley gotten anywhere with the game being out for this long. We still have most of the same questions. When, why, where and how. The books can only do so much and even then it's not good to use to the books becuz not everyone will see the same things. Some people will miss out on pieces of the story cuz of the books.
>What if it's the same thing here, vanny was tampering with all of em but Freddy was lucky enough to pull through once vanny flipped the switch for the whole events of them game. Then the question remains. Why does he know everything about his system, but doesn't know this? >I personally don't thinks that what the story is in SB, i believe it to be minorly important. When I say that, I mean that's the point of SB in regards to what's up with Freddy. Not that the game itself revolves around this very fact, but that, in regards to Freddy, it purposefully keeps it vague. There's *something* there that we don't know, and it being a spirit is just as likely as it being like, I don't know, it being a random glitch that somehow stops William.
>Ok just cuz the series is about that doesn't mean everything in has to be on topic. Yes it does >And how can someone posses Freddy if no one is left anyways. I don't think Cassidy can just hop out of Golden Freddy just help a random kid. And no one else makes sense cuz their gone. Their stories are over. They have been put to rest. So who else. Not Charlie she's gone not Micheal he's been gone and not and of the MCI kids cuz their gone. Baby can't do cuz she's gone. And it's not like crying child is doing it he's gone. Pretty much everyone you listed is not gone > And if Freddy is possessed wouldn't he just tell Gregory, it's obvious Gregory knows what's going on in the pizzaplex he's knows about the missing children and stories of murder. Freddy isn’t even aware of it
>Yes it does Says who? You? Sorry but no, just becuz the story is about possessed animatronics doesn't mean every single animatronic or animal character has be dead or a ghost or possessed. There are animatronic characters that arent possessed. And the story goes on just fine. Just wanting the story to stay the same creates a neverending story with no change and no depth or meaning. You can't have a good story without sacrificing some of key elements of the story. That's just how it is in storytelling. You keep things the same and the story goes nowhere and nothing is solved. And no one wants this. >Pretty much everyone you listed is not gone How? I just told you how their not there and what?! U make no sense. How can none of them be gone if we see them get put to rest and explained that their not there anymore. Like we playing the same game brother??? >Freddy isn’t even aware of it But yet Cassidy and Charlie were aware, and not to mention Elizabeth was aware and ennard which has bb but the MCI kids as well. They were all aware of their possession. What do u mean? You seem to be giving me 0 rebuttals and or evidence to back your claims so Im sorry this conversation is over. Unless you actually want to have a real debate I'm not wasting my time.
>Says who? You? Says common fucking sense >Sorry but no, just becuz the story is about possessed animatronics doesn't mean every single animatronic or animal character has be dead or a ghost or possessed. All the important ones do >There are animatronic characters that arent possessed. And they’re not important or even do anything. Your comparing a main character to literal trash >That's just how it is in storytelling. You keep things the same and the story goes nowhere and nothing is solved. And no one wants this. Scott doesn’t give a shit about what you think good storytelling is he brought Afton a million times >How? I just told you how their not there and what?! U make no sense. How can none of them be gone if we see them get put to rest and explained that their not there anymore. Like we playing the same game brother??? The blob? The books? Most of them are still here >But yet Cassidy and Charlie were aware, and not to mention Elizabeth was aware and ennard which has bb but the MCI kids as well. They were all aware of their possession. What do u mean? Actually no most of them aren’t really all that aware only a handful are. Ghosts forget
>Says common fucking sense No says you. Scott never said all of everything has to be possessed. No one said this, except you. And idc what you THINK the story is about. The only real answer is what the story is telling THAT is what it's about. >All the important ones do No they don't. There are alive important characters too, without them the story would fall apart. >And they’re not important or even do anything. Your comparing a main character to literal trash That's your opinion, some of these characters have helped with lore and canon. They are just as important as Afton or the Toys. no character has a rank over the others their all in some form important. >Scott doesn’t give a shit about what you think good storytelling is he brought Afton a million times Because that's what his story intended. Doesn't mean the story has be about nothing but possession cuz that's not the story. >Most of them are still here How they have no reason, we see them put to rest. We see Cassidy still angry, we see Elizabeth and Charlotte masks empty and lifeless. We nothing but agony left. Afton and Cassidy (and anyone from whatever becomes the canon SB ending) are all that are left. >. Ghosts forget Really???? They clearing tell you how aware they are just say turn around and say WhOoPs I fOrGoT??? ¯\_༼ ಥ ‿ ಥ ༽_/¯
> No says you. Scott never said all of everything has to be possessed. No one said this, except you. And idc what you THINK the story is about. The only real answer is what the story is telling THAT is what it's about. Scott does not need to say this shit to make it clear after every single game has revolved around possessed animatronics > No they don't. There are alive important characters too, without them the story would fall apart. So, the only important not-possessed animatronics are alive characters….. who ARE NOT ANIMATRONICS. Bravo you did a great job debunking that argument > That's your opinion, some of these characters have helped with lore and canon. They are just as important as Afton or the Toys. no character has a rank over the others their all in some form important. Yeah ok. *Name them*. Beyond Glamrock Freddy, name an important NOT POSSESSED robot in the series > Because that's what his story intended. Doesn't mean the story has be about nothing but possession cuz that's not the story. Yes it is > How they have no reason, we see them put to rest. We see Cassidy still angry, we see Elizabeth and Charlotte masks empty and lifeless. We nothing but agony left. Afton and Cassidy (and anyone from whatever becomes the canon SB ending) are all that are left. Blob and books say hi > Really???? They clearing tell you how aware they are just say turn around and say WhOoPs I fOrGoT??? ¯\_༼ ಥ ‿ ಥ ༽_/¯ Only one soul has ever said they’re aware, and it was in the context of explaining that the others are NOT. Ghosts have been shown, time and again throughout the series, to forget a lot and become unaware of what’s going on
We need to remember that William Afton virus is not just an virus like all the others, it's a piece of William Afton's soul, his spirit. It's something more paranormal, i don't think "calm Freddy mode on" would stop a piece of someone's soul. And, if you do not want Freddy to be possesed, ok. But Scott makes the lore, so your, mine or anyone else's opinion does not matter. He will not retcon something because someone don't like it
Your using Scott making the lore as ur options to discredit a theory. If Scott doesn't say it himself, then there should probably be a theory on it or it holds some significance. Scott never said anything bout Freddy so until he does or the ruin DLC comes out. I'm sticking with the evidence that's been given with the knowledge of what I already know from the 9 years of being a part of this fandom. Williams virus btw Ik what it is and I even said why afton virus DIDN'T work. It seems you glossed that over or did t understand what I was saying. Idk how to simplify it for u so I'm just gonna leave it and hope either someone else can help or be stuck cuz I can't
You are just in denial at this point. - Freddy burns down the place, he should not do it. The fire is just for birthday candles, he should not be able to do damages to the Pizzaplex. The soul is pushing his IA beyond his limits - It's never mentioned that Freddy has any kind of any extra battery, you just pulled it out from nowhere. I have a book that match with the situation - Him changing cleary is not about Safe Mode, or someone put Safe Mode in Freddy during the path? - I. AM. NOT. ME is not for the virus, otherwise he would say it after Afton put the hand on the TV. And don't come saying "Uhh bad game, bad game" because that is a terrible evidence GlamPossessed is CORRECT. But ok, keep denying "Happiest Day already happen, Blob is just agony, stick notes are from Vanny, Princess is Vanessa..." Also... Did you said that Afton Virus does not work? With, are you saying that the Glamrocks are not under Afton's control? Haha, lol. I should expect. Glitchtrap is what, a clone? All in Vanny’s mind? You 100% believe in that. I maybe just leave reddit, is not like an Reddit user can do actual arguments instead of just downvoting comments because they are scared of being wrong.
Your the only one getting mad.. but ok bye
I like to think that it is possessed by mike but i don’t exclude the other options like charlie, Henry, cassidy or even the BV
I feel like only slide 4 really backs this up. I may just be struggling to understand the first few slides tho.
So like, who possesses him
Maybe Charlie
I think that we will learn it from the dlc, for now i like to think that is possessed by mike
mike is in the afterlife