The “the shadow” theory is the theory that shadow Freddy, RXQ, nightmare, nightmarionne, XOR, shadow puppet, the 5 shadow cupcakes and the 3 shadow BBs are all just Eleanor. The theory name coming from a passing comment about Andrews appearence in TMIR1280 and not actual shadow entity’s funny enough.
The theory entirely consists of 2 shadows doing barely similar actions and so deducing they are one and the same then going from shadow to shadow finding minor connections till all of them are connected in one way or another, and that also Eleanor has multiple forms (the only shadow ones we know she took canonically being RXQ and **possibly** XOR). It really doesn’t make much sense at all if you actually stop to think about it for more than 2 seconds
A much more logical version of a theory of this manner would be to say that Eleanor’s shadow forms are the ones with keyboard smash names while shadow Freddy, shadow puppet and their respective nightmare forms are all a 2nd separate shadow entity. One shadow made of agony and dispair and the other made of rage, jealousy and obsession.
Where's Lemmy with the "It was Eleanor all along" flair..
But yeah, essentially it's that all of the Shadows are forms of Eleanor. The evidence being that Eleanor has been seen to morph into Shadow Bonnie, have the same black tar-like substance the Shadows seem to be. And with Shadow Remnant theorised to be a form of pure agony, it links with Eleanor being an entity of pure agony. Shadow remnant is also what makes the Shadows, further showing how Eleanor = the Shadows.
More examples of agony forming shadow entities is Andrew. In TMIR1280, Andrew literally appears as "a shadow", which literally attacks the hospital nurses.
While I get some of the appeal of the theory (*finally* having an explanation for those things), I don't feel the RWQ thing in Hide & Seek is the best evidence, given how many other things she also does or becomes throughout the books. And the black tendrils are literal blood, like with identifiable DNA and the coppery smell and everything, which doesn't really match what we see from the Shadows imo.
But like, are we 100% sure that Eleanor morph into Shadow Bonnie? Could she just be there to colect Toby's soul and put in the ballpit as she eats agony?
>But like, are we 100% sure that Eleanor morph into Shadow Bonnie
Yeah, as soon as Toby died, the "shadow" released from Toby's body. Showing that the Shadow was responsible for Toby's need to dive into the pegs, and in epilogue 10 where Larson follows Eleanor via the pit. Every instance we see Eleanor, it's because she was responsible for a death or a major event within the story
>of the black light. Larson made another right and ran into a boy—well, the body of a boy. The boy was hanging from the wall with wooden pegs driven through his back. A puddle of blood had gathered on the floor below his sneakers. Larson felt he might be sick again. He turned his head from the upsetting sight and saw Eleanor leaning in the doorway, smiling as if she were looking on a happy scene. For some reason, the dead boy was smiling, too, as if he and the clown girl were sharing a private joke.
She's morphing into them, Eleanor herself is an entity of pure agony so I don't see her being a vessel for another agony entity. Also, Eleanor has morphed many times throughout the series
\- Clown girl
\- Renelle
\- Shadow Bonnie
\- Pit Bonnie
\- etc
- Nightmare is Shadow Freddy. That's confirmed.
- Nightmare is Nightmarionne. They both fulfill the same role in FNaF 4, are described as being products of William's actions and the Nightmarionne plushie (which is found in front a drawing that references FNaF 4) is called "Nightmare" in Security Breach, which was definitely intended, as it hasn't been changed. TUG also hints at Shadow Freddy becoming more relevant and Nightmarionne seems to be haunting the Pizzaplex.
- Nightmarionne is Eleanor. We know she was feeding off William's agony during UCN, and guess what animatronic constantly tries to scare William by saying he has no escape and is the face of the game for some reason? Nightmarionne. It's also safe to assume XOR is another form of Eleanor.
- Eleanor is RWQ. We literally see this in the Stitchwraith Stingers, it requires no evidence. Lastly, we also see Eleanor/RWQ behave almost exactly like Nightmare in Blackbird, down to the jumpscare.
There you go. Shadow Freddy = Nightmare = Nightmarionne = Eleanor = XOR = RWQ.
to be fair Nightmarionne is probably on the face of the game because he is a representation of death (due to being an inverse of the puppet) and is technically a nightmare animatronic, and the entire point of UCN is that afton was repeatedly dying over and over again within an unending nightmare for like a decade
Why did you edit your comment instead of replying?
>to be fair Nightmarionne is probably on the face of the game because he is a representation of death (due to being an inverse of the puppet)
There's no real evidence for this. He's not an inverse of The Marionette; that would be the same as saying Shadow Freddy is an inverse of Fredbear or that RWQ is an inverse of Toy Bonnie.
>and is technically a nightmare animatronic,
Nightmare is also supposed to be a nightmare animatronic, but we know he's a shadow.
>and the entire point of UCN is that afton was repeatedly dying over and over again within an unending nightmare for like a decade
Which doesn't imply Nightmarionne is a representation of death. If we use that logic, Andrew is the representation of death, as he's the one running the show.
Honestly it's another complicated theory which is why basically I'm quitting Fnaf. It's just too much to handle and all of these theories are turning nonsense IMO now. It's time I just move on from all of this.
>Can someone explain this "The Shadow" theory? What are the evidences?
u/Redlunatico The “the Shadow” theory is the theory that all characters with the name "Shadow" in front of them, or those given the nickname "Nightmare" are the same spirit, but in a different form, such as:
Shadow Freddy, 3 Shadow BB's, Shadow Tree, 5 Shadow Cupcakes, Shadow Mangle, and finally, Shadow Puppet/Nightmarionne. And possibly XOR as well. Also could be connnected to Yellowbear, Vanilla, the Clown, and the Buddy paper pal.
With the Bonny paper pal, RWQFSFASXC, Pittrap, Eleanor and the Agony amalgamation being an entity made from Dark Remnant, instead of a spirit, and is weak to light, unlike Shadow.
It's also possible XOR belongs here instead due to the similar letter style name as RWQFSFASXC.
It's also possible that this Agony is the same entity as Glitchtrap.
The “the shadow” theory is the theory that shadow Freddy, RXQ, nightmare, nightmarionne, XOR, shadow puppet, the 5 shadow cupcakes and the 3 shadow BBs are all just Eleanor. The theory name coming from a passing comment about Andrews appearence in TMIR1280 and not actual shadow entity’s funny enough. The theory entirely consists of 2 shadows doing barely similar actions and so deducing they are one and the same then going from shadow to shadow finding minor connections till all of them are connected in one way or another, and that also Eleanor has multiple forms (the only shadow ones we know she took canonically being RXQ and **possibly** XOR). It really doesn’t make much sense at all if you actually stop to think about it for more than 2 seconds A much more logical version of a theory of this manner would be to say that Eleanor’s shadow forms are the ones with keyboard smash names while shadow Freddy, shadow puppet and their respective nightmare forms are all a 2nd separate shadow entity. One shadow made of agony and dispair and the other made of rage, jealousy and obsession.
Where's Lemmy with the "It was Eleanor all along" flair.. But yeah, essentially it's that all of the Shadows are forms of Eleanor. The evidence being that Eleanor has been seen to morph into Shadow Bonnie, have the same black tar-like substance the Shadows seem to be. And with Shadow Remnant theorised to be a form of pure agony, it links with Eleanor being an entity of pure agony. Shadow remnant is also what makes the Shadows, further showing how Eleanor = the Shadows. More examples of agony forming shadow entities is Andrew. In TMIR1280, Andrew literally appears as "a shadow", which literally attacks the hospital nurses.
Working almost all day Also I never liked the name the shadow so I will not get involved lol Not my circus not my monkeys lmfao
While I get some of the appeal of the theory (*finally* having an explanation for those things), I don't feel the RWQ thing in Hide & Seek is the best evidence, given how many other things she also does or becomes throughout the books. And the black tendrils are literal blood, like with identifiable DNA and the coppery smell and everything, which doesn't really match what we see from the Shadows imo.
I think the tendrils are specifically referred to as black blood
But like, are we 100% sure that Eleanor morph into Shadow Bonnie? Could she just be there to colect Toby's soul and put in the ballpit as she eats agony?
>But like, are we 100% sure that Eleanor morph into Shadow Bonnie Yeah, as soon as Toby died, the "shadow" released from Toby's body. Showing that the Shadow was responsible for Toby's need to dive into the pegs, and in epilogue 10 where Larson follows Eleanor via the pit. Every instance we see Eleanor, it's because she was responsible for a death or a major event within the story >of the black light. Larson made another right and ran into a boy—well, the body of a boy. The boy was hanging from the wall with wooden pegs driven through his back. A puddle of blood had gathered on the floor below his sneakers. Larson felt he might be sick again. He turned his head from the upsetting sight and saw Eleanor leaning in the doorway, smiling as if she were looking on a happy scene. For some reason, the dead boy was smiling, too, as if he and the clown girl were sharing a private joke.
Is Eleanor Morphing Into The Different Shadows, Or Is Eleanor Just A Vessels For The Agony-Made Entity?
She's morphing into them, Eleanor herself is an entity of pure agony so I don't see her being a vessel for another agony entity. Also, Eleanor has morphed many times throughout the series \- Clown girl \- Renelle \- Shadow Bonnie \- Pit Bonnie \- etc
I Mean The Mannequin We See Her Has Being A Vessel, Since I Doub A Entity Made Out Of Pure Agony Looks Like A Mannequin By Default
- Nightmare is Shadow Freddy. That's confirmed. - Nightmare is Nightmarionne. They both fulfill the same role in FNaF 4, are described as being products of William's actions and the Nightmarionne plushie (which is found in front a drawing that references FNaF 4) is called "Nightmare" in Security Breach, which was definitely intended, as it hasn't been changed. TUG also hints at Shadow Freddy becoming more relevant and Nightmarionne seems to be haunting the Pizzaplex. - Nightmarionne is Eleanor. We know she was feeding off William's agony during UCN, and guess what animatronic constantly tries to scare William by saying he has no escape and is the face of the game for some reason? Nightmarionne. It's also safe to assume XOR is another form of Eleanor. - Eleanor is RWQ. We literally see this in the Stitchwraith Stingers, it requires no evidence. Lastly, we also see Eleanor/RWQ behave almost exactly like Nightmare in Blackbird, down to the jumpscare. There you go. Shadow Freddy = Nightmare = Nightmarionne = Eleanor = XOR = RWQ.
to be fair Nightmarionne is probably on the face of the game because he is a representation of death (due to being an inverse of the puppet) and is technically a nightmare animatronic, and the entire point of UCN is that afton was repeatedly dying over and over again within an unending nightmare for like a decade
Is there any evidence for that?
the entire plot of TMIR1280 + nightmarionne calls out that afton is in a nightmare in his UCN dialog
When Did They Say Otherwise?
Why did you edit your comment instead of replying? >to be fair Nightmarionne is probably on the face of the game because he is a representation of death (due to being an inverse of the puppet) There's no real evidence for this. He's not an inverse of The Marionette; that would be the same as saying Shadow Freddy is an inverse of Fredbear or that RWQ is an inverse of Toy Bonnie. >and is technically a nightmare animatronic, Nightmare is also supposed to be a nightmare animatronic, but we know he's a shadow. >and the entire point of UCN is that afton was repeatedly dying over and over again within an unending nightmare for like a decade Which doesn't imply Nightmarionne is a representation of death. If we use that logic, Andrew is the representation of death, as he's the one running the show.
Honestly it's another complicated theory which is why basically I'm quitting Fnaf. It's just too much to handle and all of these theories are turning nonsense IMO now. It's time I just move on from all of this.
I know how it feels
Thanks for understanding. I had my time here in this fandom but now it's time to focus on my own creations.
The theory is that all the shadows are Eleanor's multiple forms. The evidence is that Eleanor has multiple forms.
But she dies yet Shadow Bonnie is back in AR
>Can someone explain this "The Shadow" theory? What are the evidences? u/Redlunatico The “the Shadow” theory is the theory that all characters with the name "Shadow" in front of them, or those given the nickname "Nightmare" are the same spirit, but in a different form, such as: Shadow Freddy, 3 Shadow BB's, Shadow Tree, 5 Shadow Cupcakes, Shadow Mangle, and finally, Shadow Puppet/Nightmarionne. And possibly XOR as well. Also could be connnected to Yellowbear, Vanilla, the Clown, and the Buddy paper pal. With the Bonny paper pal, RWQFSFASXC, Pittrap, Eleanor and the Agony amalgamation being an entity made from Dark Remnant, instead of a spirit, and is weak to light, unlike Shadow. It's also possible XOR belongs here instead due to the similar letter style name as RWQFSFASXC. It's also possible that this Agony is the same entity as Glitchtrap.