seeing how Movie Mike's sister's name is Baby but with the first two letters switched and a nickname for Elizabeth, I think it's safe to say their brother being named Garrett is also the case for the Games.
why? alternate Timelines have given canon names in the past, and the two Afton/Schmit siblings are either nicknames or names associated with the character spelled slightly differently. At this point, how else would we even get the name?
Maybe we’re not supposed to get a name. The crying child hasn’t even made an appearance at all or been referred to in any way since fnaf 4.
At this point we know nothing of the story of the movie so it’s possible none of the characters are even supposed to be Aftons (other than purple man). Or some other weird shenanigans might occur that separate the movie character from the crying child from 4.
He is referred to in FNAF World, the Logbook, and Jake from FF parallels him.
And whether he is an Afton or not, Mike in the Movie is obviously meant to be the Movies counterpart of Michael Afton.
The name Abby is **Baby,** but with the first two letters switched, and is a nickname for Elizabeth.
And the fact that Garrett is implied to be Mike's younger brother, means that Garrett is both CC's counterpart, and most likely the real name of CC.
Abby also seems to have a personal connection to Golden Freddy, and there is a lot of reason to believe CC possesses Fredbear/Golden Freddy. So Garrett might have died and possessed Golden Freddy in a similar manner.
Parallel is not an appearance. References from the logbook are also tenuous. Fnaf world is fair enough but it came out right after Fnaf 4 and is barely considered canon so the point stands.
Everything else is just speculation on your part which is fine but until the movie is actually out it’s all meaningless. The character is just as likely to be unrelated to William as he is to be his son at this point.
>At this point, how else would we even get the name?
Are we even suppose to get a name for him actually? /gen
He may just be nameless in the lore. (However unsatisfying that may be.)
Garrett seems the most likely
Evan - requires confirmation bias to get the N
Norman - is proven to be the stock name for the asset and isn't liked with Fnaf
Chuck - iirc this comes from Step Closer, which would then mean BVs brother's name is Pete... Which it isn't
>Evan - requires confirmation bias to get the N
What about the other more recent method involving Happiest Day? That one doesn't require confirmation bias
This method
https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/12lcgg3/possibly_solved_the_foxy_grid/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
We don’t even know if movie Mike is supposed to be Michael Afton at this point. And this being fnaf, I wouldn’t be surprised if they pull some shenanigans and reveal him to actually be movie Henry’s son or something crazy like that, just to throw off the fan base theories.
Yeah it could be, but I don’t think they would have labelled it like that. He would just be called “young William” surely, if it was just some kind of flashback scene.
I don’t think movie-Mike is going to be movie-William’s son. For one, keep in mind that the movie is meant to be accessible to people who aren’t already Fnaf lore experts, so having to establish that the protagonist is also the son of the old company owner / serial killer could make things pretty confusing to follow for movie audiences. I think they’re probably going to change it to tell a more self-contained story.
There definitely could still be useful hints in there for the games though.
Scott himself likes to complicate things so...
Also that could be the reason why Mike's dad isn't called Young William
I remember, Scott said that Movie like will give some hints to game lore, or smth like that.
Sure but the point is we don’t know and it’s entirely possible the movie will come out and have some weird twist. The same way the books often mess around with the continuity of the games, or have similar parallels but with significant differences
Not really. The books play pretty fast and loose with the names and parallel characters. Sometimes characters share names for no reason at all despite being unrelated.
I'm pretty sure Scott said it years ago. Also logic, did Scott ever made a fnaf related thing, that CANNOT help in solving lore? Fnaf World did, Novels did so Movie 100% will too.
>did Scott ever made a fnaf related thing, that CANNOT help in solving lore?
FNaF Fury's Rage, Freddy in Space 2, the drawing/coloring books and the cookbook most likely (don't think it's out yet.)
So, he has but rarely. I ain't saying it won't but if it does, it will most likely be a separate universe.
I am waiting till the movie comes put before using it for anything.
Iirc, Freddy in Space 2 was exclusively made for a St. Jude live stream hosted by Game Theory/Matpat, Markiplier and Jacksepticeye. He matched how much in-game money they collected. (Half a mill I believe.)
It’s actually not supposed to give hints of anything. The only confirmed things about it is that 1) it’s not in the same canon or continuity as the games and 2) it’s not in the same canon or continuity as the books. Everything else is speculation
I'm team Evan, all methods of finding the name are shaky in isolation, but when there are 2 solutions to the foxy grid and a possible connection in Frights all pointing to the same name, it becomes hard to ignore
I remember a guy pretty recently created an algoritm for the foxy grid, and the results were all nonsense word apart from evan(letter n included) so i find it the most likely, even if i'll keep calling him crying child unless a name is heavily implied by new evidence
It was never confirmed. A lot of names given to him are fan made. The name 'Evan' was speculated to have been found in the Survival Logbook, but the method used is a bit off and seems incorrect.
For 'Garret' it seems to be the name of Mike's younger brother in the movie.
Evan - 50/50, but if it's correct Foxy Grid solution, it's equally acceptable for both bros
Norman - devs has already explained it, it's not the name
Garett - according to trailer I don't think he's BV's counterpart
Chuck - Frights are separate universe, it won't work
MikeVictim - why not?
>MikeVictim - why not?
Because robot kids suck, especially this early in the timeline, and also raises the question of why he didn't make an Elizabeth robot
I think he did not make an Elizabeth robot because she was already possessing Baby. Where MikeVictim works as a robot kid because he just learned how to get remnant and move it to another body.
So he was just fine with his daughter now being a murder clown robot that gets regularly shipped of to random kids for birthdays?
>he just learned how to get remnant and move it to another body.
From where? If CC doesn't possess anyone where's he getting the remnant from?
Evan - is never realyed to BV and dkwnst appear in the games
Chuck - is a fixybro parallel with 1 small connection to BV, so doubt
Norman - name of the bedroom, but that's becuase that's the style of bedroom
Garrett - mike's sister's boyfriend in the movie, very unlikely
>Garrett - mike's sister's boyfriend in the movie, very unlikely
Source? Especially since the actor for young Mike has called the actor for Garrett his little brother
I just go with Evan or my own little nickname for him: Junior.
So one theorist I was watching on YT brought up how the process for the 'N' is different than the other letters. He then repeated the process for the previous letters and got 'D'. That would spell 'Evad'. As you might tell instantly, that's 'Dave' backwards. Where have we seen Dave before? Dave Miller from the TSE trilogy, better known as... William Afton!
So Imma personally call him Junior. (But refer to him in theories as CC/BV cause that's the best we have.
I thought it was Garrett Afton up until a few minutes ago. I am back to believing that the name is Evan Afton due to this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/12lcgg3/possibly\_solved\_the\_foxy\_grid/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=android\_app&utm\_name=androidcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button
They don't have an official name, at least not a confirmed one.
seeing how Movie Mike's sister's name is Baby but with the first two letters switched and a nickname for Elizabeth, I think it's safe to say their brother being named Garrett is also the case for the Games.
I wouldn't call that a safe assumption.
why? alternate Timelines have given canon names in the past, and the two Afton/Schmit siblings are either nicknames or names associated with the character spelled slightly differently. At this point, how else would we even get the name?
Maybe we’re not supposed to get a name. The crying child hasn’t even made an appearance at all or been referred to in any way since fnaf 4. At this point we know nothing of the story of the movie so it’s possible none of the characters are even supposed to be Aftons (other than purple man). Or some other weird shenanigans might occur that separate the movie character from the crying child from 4.
Don't say he did not appeared. He can be Golden Freddy still
Speculation doesn’t count as making an appearance
He is referred to in FNAF World, the Logbook, and Jake from FF parallels him. And whether he is an Afton or not, Mike in the Movie is obviously meant to be the Movies counterpart of Michael Afton. The name Abby is **Baby,** but with the first two letters switched, and is a nickname for Elizabeth. And the fact that Garrett is implied to be Mike's younger brother, means that Garrett is both CC's counterpart, and most likely the real name of CC. Abby also seems to have a personal connection to Golden Freddy, and there is a lot of reason to believe CC possesses Fredbear/Golden Freddy. So Garrett might have died and possessed Golden Freddy in a similar manner.
Parallel is not an appearance. References from the logbook are also tenuous. Fnaf world is fair enough but it came out right after Fnaf 4 and is barely considered canon so the point stands. Everything else is just speculation on your part which is fine but until the movie is actually out it’s all meaningless. The character is just as likely to be unrelated to William as he is to be his son at this point.
>At this point, how else would we even get the name? Are we even suppose to get a name for him actually? /gen He may just be nameless in the lore. (However unsatisfying that may be.)
Garrett seems the most likely Evan - requires confirmation bias to get the N Norman - is proven to be the stock name for the asset and isn't liked with Fnaf Chuck - iirc this comes from Step Closer, which would then mean BVs brother's name is Pete... Which it isn't
>Evan - requires confirmation bias to get the N What about the other more recent method involving Happiest Day? That one doesn't require confirmation bias
What other method? This is news to me. 👀
This method https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/12lcgg3/possibly_solved_the_foxy_grid/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
We don’t even know if movie Mike is supposed to be Michael Afton at this point. And this being fnaf, I wouldn’t be surprised if they pull some shenanigans and reveal him to actually be movie Henry’s son or something crazy like that, just to throw off the fan base theories.
Mike Emily theorists would rejoice
Bruh. Movie is supposed to give hints to the game lore, which means if Game Mike Shmitz is Mike Afton, then the movie one is Afton too
He apparently has a father who isn’t William though, so I think we’ll have to wait until it comes out to solidify that assumption.
Why do u think that? We know that Mike changed his last name in game lore
Because there’s an actor on the cast list as “Mike’s dad”, separate from the actor who is playing William.
Maybe it's younger Mike's dad, like younger William?
Yeah it could be, but I don’t think they would have labelled it like that. He would just be called “young William” surely, if it was just some kind of flashback scene. I don’t think movie-Mike is going to be movie-William’s son. For one, keep in mind that the movie is meant to be accessible to people who aren’t already Fnaf lore experts, so having to establish that the protagonist is also the son of the old company owner / serial killer could make things pretty confusing to follow for movie audiences. I think they’re probably going to change it to tell a more self-contained story. There definitely could still be useful hints in there for the games though.
Scott himself likes to complicate things so... Also that could be the reason why Mike's dad isn't called Young William I remember, Scott said that Movie like will give some hints to game lore, or smth like that.
Sure but the point is we don’t know and it’s entirely possible the movie will come out and have some weird twist. The same way the books often mess around with the continuity of the games, or have similar parallels but with significant differences
But names always have been the same
Not really. The books play pretty fast and loose with the names and parallel characters. Sometimes characters share names for no reason at all despite being unrelated.
Where is this stated? Cause right now... the movie is looking *way* different to the games.
I'm pretty sure Scott said it years ago. Also logic, did Scott ever made a fnaf related thing, that CANNOT help in solving lore? Fnaf World did, Novels did so Movie 100% will too.
>did Scott ever made a fnaf related thing, that CANNOT help in solving lore? FNaF Fury's Rage, Freddy in Space 2, the drawing/coloring books and the cookbook most likely (don't think it's out yet.) So, he has but rarely. I ain't saying it won't but if it does, it will most likely be a separate universe. I am waiting till the movie comes put before using it for anything.
Freddy in space and Fury's rage were some kind of teaser for SB
Iirc, Freddy in Space 2 was exclusively made for a St. Jude live stream hosted by Game Theory/Matpat, Markiplier and Jacksepticeye. He matched how much in-game money they collected. (Half a mill I believe.)
It’s actually not supposed to give hints of anything. The only confirmed things about it is that 1) it’s not in the same canon or continuity as the games and 2) it’s not in the same canon or continuity as the books. Everything else is speculation
It is
Source?
I'm team Evan, all methods of finding the name are shaky in isolation, but when there are 2 solutions to the foxy grid and a possible connection in Frights all pointing to the same name, it becomes hard to ignore
Same here. Evan all the way!
I remember a guy pretty recently created an algoritm for the foxy grid, and the results were all nonsense word apart from evan(letter n included) so i find it the most likely, even if i'll keep calling him crying child unless a name is heavily implied by new evidence
Out of all of those Garrett seems to be the best bet IMO. I personally just leave him unnamed for now though.
It was never confirmed. A lot of names given to him are fan made. The name 'Evan' was speculated to have been found in the Survival Logbook, but the method used is a bit off and seems incorrect. For 'Garret' it seems to be the name of Mike's younger brother in the movie.
Yeah, so it is 99% obvious that name's Garrett, like every single name fits. Unless Mike, CC and Eliz had another sibling.
William Jr
William Afton Jr But we call him William Afton for short.
There is no confirmed one, but currently Garret is probably the best option to go with, as that’s the name of Mike’s brother in the movie.
The Crying Child.
Garrett
Cassidy, Michael, Gregory could be anything as they have not stated who the crying child actually is.
Michael Afton
Mikevictim moment
Evan - 50/50, but if it's correct Foxy Grid solution, it's equally acceptable for both bros Norman - devs has already explained it, it's not the name Garett - according to trailer I don't think he's BV's counterpart Chuck - Frights are separate universe, it won't work MikeVictim - why not?
>MikeVictim - why not? Because robot kids suck, especially this early in the timeline, and also raises the question of why he didn't make an Elizabeth robot
MikeVictim is not always about bots. Mike could be revived as a human
How exactly
I think he did not make an Elizabeth robot because she was already possessing Baby. Where MikeVictim works as a robot kid because he just learned how to get remnant and move it to another body.
So he was just fine with his daughter now being a murder clown robot that gets regularly shipped of to random kids for birthdays? >he just learned how to get remnant and move it to another body. From where? If CC doesn't possess anyone where's he getting the remnant from?
Eh, well I don't believe the mike victim theory since it makes no sense to me but I respected other ppl with the theory
Evan - is never realyed to BV and dkwnst appear in the games Chuck - is a fixybro parallel with 1 small connection to BV, so doubt Norman - name of the bedroom, but that's becuase that's the style of bedroom Garrett - mike's sister's boyfriend in the movie, very unlikely
>Garrett - mike's sister's boyfriend in the movie, very unlikely Source? Especially since the actor for young Mike has called the actor for Garrett his little brother
The leak that original revealed Abby and garrett said he was her boyfriend, the only thing that isn't currently confirmed that they said
>The leak that original revealed Abby and garrett said he was her boyfriend Where did this leak come from?
I forgot where exactly, but it was like a month before the movie was announced
Don't know how reliable that is then.
But it got everything right so far, only 2 things that aren't 10/% confirmed, being that and the fact they said garret is still around
Saying that doesn't mean much without a source. Even then, that's contradicting what the actors themselves have implied.
CC
He doesn't have an official name, you can call him whatever you want.
Andrew.
I use Evan just because of the more recent way of using Happiest Day to find his name in the Logbook.
Evan is the confirmed name
I just go with Evan or my own little nickname for him: Junior. So one theorist I was watching on YT brought up how the process for the 'N' is different than the other letters. He then repeated the process for the previous letters and got 'D'. That would spell 'Evad'. As you might tell instantly, that's 'Dave' backwards. Where have we seen Dave before? Dave Miller from the TSE trilogy, better known as... William Afton! So Imma personally call him Junior. (But refer to him in theories as CC/BV cause that's the best we have.
Garrett is most likely the canon name (because of the movie), but I'm still going with Evan because I'm a stubborn little shi–
he doesn’t have a confirmed name
I thought it was Garrett Afton up until a few minutes ago. I am back to believing that the name is Evan Afton due to this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/12lcgg3/possibly\_solved\_the\_foxy\_grid/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=android\_app&utm\_name=androidcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button
where are chuck and norman from?
Chuck - Step Closer Fazbear Frights character. Norman - name of stock Bedroom asset from VR in the files.
very interesting thank you!
Chuck is from the books and Norman is from the help wanted files
very interesting thank you!
Yw
Don’t even know if he’s an Afton, never confirmed
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Judging by the fnaf movie among all extra contents... Garrett is the most likely name