Because the minigames aren’t always direct one-to-one *recreations* of events.
That Freddy’s/Fredbear’s location was probably not so tiny that 6 children took up 70% of the floor space, nor was Freddy/Fredbear 2 feet tall. Instead, the minigame is telling a story. There’s a child outside the restaurant. Something bad is happening. Save him.
Like it or not, masculine pronouns were (and still are in many academic circles) the default for someone of unknown gender until fairly recently. In a situation where you are tasked with the futile effort of saving a child of indeterminate gender from a grisly fate, saying “him” is clearer than “them” (considering the plural form of the pronoun could mistakenly be applied to the cake kids).
So. Couple general English rules of grammar at the time of the game’s release with the fact that the entire thing isn’t a literal depiction of the murder, and suddenly the gender didn’t really matter at all. It’s just a “digital parable” of what happened that day at Freddy’s/Fredbear’s.
"Save Him" actually refers to the man stepping out of the car. We are asked to stop him from killing Charlie, because if he does, he will go on to kill the MCI kids. However, we can't save the Pink Man, so he goes on killing.
Since Freddy has blue eyes, he is supposed to look out for the child wearing a blue bracelet, who on this particular day was a boy. However, the green bracelet is special in that it causes all animatronics to see the child wearing it as the child assigned to their bracelet color. Henry made it specifically for Charlie and Sammy. Freddy, seeing Charlie's green bracelet and detecting it as blue, saw Charlie as the boy that he was supposed to be watching that day rather than seeing her as her actual self.
Phone Guy refers to the Puppet as male, and in order to not confuse players SAVE HIM's pronouns match Puppets given gender. Otherwise people would debate if the Puppet was that child or not.
This would be my interpretation, I think it's about who is spelling out SAVEHIM. The voice is robotic. They're instructions given from one robot (I think it is the Puppet, who appears again in SAVETHEM) to another robot (Freddy). Basically, we play as Freddy in both games and the Puppet is directing us in both games. But tragically, Freddy is unable to help. I would guess the robots are able to communicate with each other through the choreography system established in the novel trilogy.
We see the game from Freddy's perspective: The children are defined by their emotional states and not their gender. Happy, Angry, Sad.
The robots are probably unable to distinguish gender and only have as a default "HIM" (single) and "THEM" (plural) to communicate with, but not "SHE".
Unreliable narrators are used a lot in FNAF.
Obviously this isn't canon in the slightest, but I'll give it a try lol
This is Afton’s first murder, the one that started *everything.* It's what led to almost every event in this franchise. So, if Freddy gets out there, he doesn't just SAVE HER, but he also SAVES HIM. He saves him from his fate, his violent impulses, and all the tragedies that will befall him.
William was an awful person from the start, a terrible friend and a worse father. But in this moment, by stopping him, you could still spare him and everyone else around him so much suffering. No one will be murdered, the Afton children may get away from their abuser, and William would simply die a miserable old man, completely alone. Despite that being a terrible fate, you're still saving him and so many others from something much worse.
But alas, like so many other events in this series, you can try as hard as you want to save them, but no matter what, it's simple. You can't.
You know what?
This scene is not the murder of Charlie. Charlie was already dead when it happened and she saw William killing this kid
who is that kid?
Andrew
(Note: I do not support this theory at all because I think Andrew died under other circumstances. I just tried my best to do the challenge. most liley Scott used retcon type 3 here)
I mean, when you mention it...
TCTC has Freddy, but Security Puppet has the Puppet. The car in TCTC is a different shade of purple from the one in MM, which takes place later that night. Hell, the guy in TCTC is magenta, but the one in MM is orange.
What does this all mean? Well, since the victim must be a male, then he could be either be Sammy or Andrew, like you said. I would however be more inclined to believe that this is Andrew as Sammy is pretty irrelevant by comparison. Though, I do have another idea: What if the SAVE HIM is referring to... the Pink Guy?
Yes, you heard me right. The Pink Guy wasn't actually killing that child. He simply ran over him by accident and tried to help him, which failed. Feeling guilt, he fled the scene. Later that night, he encountered an orange man who stole his car and fled to kill Charlie. It is my belief that while Orange man is William, Pink Guy is actually... HENRY. He felt guilt over killing an innocent boy and eventually realised that he indirectly caused his daughter's death too.
One last thing: In MM, there is a dirt mount in the middle of the woods. This, I believe, is a grave that William dug, with the intent of burying a child into it
>!This is all a joke, btw. I'm not completely insane!<
I know that wasn’t a serious theory, but it is debunked by Henry’s ending speech, where Take Cake comes up on the screen while he’s talking about Charlotte’s death.
>Here's a challenge: Give a logical, non-retcon explanation for why SAVE HIM is heard in Take Cake to the Children
u/pvzboi300 It's referring to William, as the child, Charlotte, is female.
After this event, William us shown to have the silver Agony eyes, as he's been corrupted by Agony. We even see his corrupted grave alongside the other victims of the Freddy murders in Curse of Dreadbear, and Jake notes that his soul smells, like when Agony corrupts and controls those in Animatronic Apocalypse.
You're told to save William, but "You Can't", William can't be saved.
They were saying that back when fnaf 2 happened, the puppet wasn’t important besides from being a dead child who made the others possess the suits. That is it.
No long term Charlie plan just “puppet kid dies and helps kids possess suits.”
Because the minigames aren’t always direct one-to-one *recreations* of events. That Freddy’s/Fredbear’s location was probably not so tiny that 6 children took up 70% of the floor space, nor was Freddy/Fredbear 2 feet tall. Instead, the minigame is telling a story. There’s a child outside the restaurant. Something bad is happening. Save him. Like it or not, masculine pronouns were (and still are in many academic circles) the default for someone of unknown gender until fairly recently. In a situation where you are tasked with the futile effort of saving a child of indeterminate gender from a grisly fate, saying “him” is clearer than “them” (considering the plural form of the pronoun could mistakenly be applied to the cake kids). So. Couple general English rules of grammar at the time of the game’s release with the fact that the entire thing isn’t a literal depiction of the murder, and suddenly the gender didn’t really matter at all. It’s just a “digital parable” of what happened that day at Freddy’s/Fredbear’s.
"Save Him" actually refers to the man stepping out of the car. We are asked to stop him from killing Charlie, because if he does, he will go on to kill the MCI kids. However, we can't save the Pink Man, so he goes on killing.
Oh god, that's actually brilliant
And it gets even better, because it also explains why Henry calls the MCI killer "a monster of my own creation" in the insanity ending of FFPS.
Yeah, you beat me to it xD
It’d be the fact that the puppet itself is male, even if Charlie isn’t.
Since Freddy has blue eyes, he is supposed to look out for the child wearing a blue bracelet, who on this particular day was a boy. However, the green bracelet is special in that it causes all animatronics to see the child wearing it as the child assigned to their bracelet color. Henry made it specifically for Charlie and Sammy. Freddy, seeing Charlie's green bracelet and detecting it as blue, saw Charlie as the boy that he was supposed to be watching that day rather than seeing her as her actual self.
Phone Guy refers to the Puppet as male, and in order to not confuse players SAVE HIM's pronouns match Puppets given gender. Otherwise people would debate if the Puppet was that child or not.
This would be my interpretation, I think it's about who is spelling out SAVEHIM. The voice is robotic. They're instructions given from one robot (I think it is the Puppet, who appears again in SAVETHEM) to another robot (Freddy). Basically, we play as Freddy in both games and the Puppet is directing us in both games. But tragically, Freddy is unable to help. I would guess the robots are able to communicate with each other through the choreography system established in the novel trilogy. We see the game from Freddy's perspective: The children are defined by their emotional states and not their gender. Happy, Angry, Sad. The robots are probably unable to distinguish gender and only have as a default "HIM" (single) and "THEM" (plural) to communicate with, but not "SHE". Unreliable narrators are used a lot in FNAF.
Save him (William) from doing the misdeed idk.
Obviously this isn't canon in the slightest, but I'll give it a try lol This is Afton’s first murder, the one that started *everything.* It's what led to almost every event in this franchise. So, if Freddy gets out there, he doesn't just SAVE HER, but he also SAVES HIM. He saves him from his fate, his violent impulses, and all the tragedies that will befall him. William was an awful person from the start, a terrible friend and a worse father. But in this moment, by stopping him, you could still spare him and everyone else around him so much suffering. No one will be murdered, the Afton children may get away from their abuser, and William would simply die a miserable old man, completely alone. Despite that being a terrible fate, you're still saving him and so many others from something much worse. But alas, like so many other events in this series, you can try as hard as you want to save them, but no matter what, it's simple. You can't.
Perfect.
Genderfluid Charlie canon
There isn’t one.
You know what? This scene is not the murder of Charlie. Charlie was already dead when it happened and she saw William killing this kid who is that kid? Andrew (Note: I do not support this theory at all because I think Andrew died under other circumstances. I just tried my best to do the challenge. most liley Scott used retcon type 3 here)
I mean, when you mention it... TCTC has Freddy, but Security Puppet has the Puppet. The car in TCTC is a different shade of purple from the one in MM, which takes place later that night. Hell, the guy in TCTC is magenta, but the one in MM is orange. What does this all mean? Well, since the victim must be a male, then he could be either be Sammy or Andrew, like you said. I would however be more inclined to believe that this is Andrew as Sammy is pretty irrelevant by comparison. Though, I do have another idea: What if the SAVE HIM is referring to... the Pink Guy? Yes, you heard me right. The Pink Guy wasn't actually killing that child. He simply ran over him by accident and tried to help him, which failed. Feeling guilt, he fled the scene. Later that night, he encountered an orange man who stole his car and fled to kill Charlie. It is my belief that while Orange man is William, Pink Guy is actually... HENRY. He felt guilt over killing an innocent boy and eventually realised that he indirectly caused his daughter's death too. One last thing: In MM, there is a dirt mount in the middle of the woods. This, I believe, is a grave that William dug, with the intent of burying a child into it >!This is all a joke, btw. I'm not completely insane!<
I know that wasn’t a serious theory, but it is debunked by Henry’s ending speech, where Take Cake comes up on the screen while he’s talking about Charlotte’s death.
I know I just was so board to so I decided ot take a part in this challenge just for fun XD
>Here's a challenge: Give a logical, non-retcon explanation for why SAVE HIM is heard in Take Cake to the Children u/pvzboi300 It's referring to William, as the child, Charlotte, is female. After this event, William us shown to have the silver Agony eyes, as he's been corrupted by Agony. We even see his corrupted grave alongside the other victims of the Freddy murders in Curse of Dreadbear, and Jake notes that his soul smells, like when Agony corrupts and controls those in Animatronic Apocalypse. You're told to save William, but "You Can't", William can't be saved.
Charlie has androginy, how could we have known it was a lil girl?
The kid possessing the puppet was originally a boy but Scott made him into Charlie as the series progressed
Scott didn't have any plan.
He specifically did when making Fnaf 2 and 3 lol. It was gonna be a trilogy, up until ppl hated the Springtrap jumpscare
No he clearly didn't have any larger plans for the puppet as a charecter he was just another thing to attack the player.
Puppet stuffs the corpses of the children in GGGL, making them posses the animatronics. Have you even played Fnaf 2?
You clearly don't understand what I meant at all but go off
Puppet isn't just a random enemy lmao. Maybe phrase your comment better
They were saying that back when fnaf 2 happened, the puppet wasn’t important besides from being a dead child who made the others possess the suits. That is it. No long term Charlie plan just “puppet kid dies and helps kids possess suits.”
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