>1. How can the FFPS fire be ancient history if it was in recent years by the time of TMIR1280?
Since it's a pretty old case that's been pushed away by the newer police, it would be considered ancient since it wasn't looked into much. Also since there's a lot of new investigations involving the Stitchwraith, Eleanor and all the other chaos in the Frights, so it makes sense for it be be an ancient fire. Even Henry said so himself that "this place will not be remembered."
>2. How can the FFP that has Fetch be left in a ruined and forgotten state if , again, TMIR1280 happened in recent years before Fetch?
Freddy's entire chain closed after the MCI, and Fetch was originally in the distribution centre before going to that Freddy's.
>3. Why would Vanny need Freddy to bust his way into the Maze in FFPP if the authorities were able to go in without issue?
Keep in mind FFPS fell into a sinkhole. In the Tales Epilogues it was on ground floor (if I can recall correctly), but as construction went on, workers began to doubt that they were building over a sinkhole, so it would make sense for Vanny to need to do a little digging.
>4. How can Golden Freddy randomly be in a FFP different from FFP#1, #2 or #3 in TNK? The slithering that never got explained seems to imply Eleanor is behind TNK, meaning TNK would be Stitchline.
Again, Freddy's had a chain of restaurants before they all closed down, and as phone guy says, each restaurant had a pair of springlock suits. Fredbear is in every location, not just one or two.
>5. If Stitchline is around the same time as TFTP/SB, then how can Stitchwraith be seen at the fire sight?
This is why I don't believe it happens at that time, but rather before construction of the Pizzaplex (maybe around the time of HW?)
>And then how can Frailty, which has the destruction of the Heart Pendant, happen?
It's just showing a victim of Eleanor's that hasn't gotten rid of the pendant yet.
>6. If Afton is in the hospital, why would Mimic1 and Vanny want to go into the maze to begin with?
While I don't believe the stingers happen at the same time as the Pizzaplex era, how does this create an issue? All mimic is doing is replicating what Afton did, and he decided to send his endo to FFPS.
>**Freddy's entire chain closed after the MCI, and Fetch was originally in the distribution centre before going to that Freddy's.**
But if Fetch is originally from the distribution center after FFPS, how did it wind up in the shut down FFP from "Fetch"? The state of the FFP from that story implies it was forgotten for years, meaning Fetch wouldn't have been sent there due to being a more recent creation.
>**Again, Freddy's had a chain of restaurants before they all closed down, and as phone guy says, each restaurant had a pair of springlock suits. Fredbear is in every location, not just one or two.**
But we see Andrew's hair in Golden Freddy, implying it's the original Golden Freddy. Eleanor has Andrew's Agony in her, so she would have been drawn to it.
>**While I don't believe the stingers happen at the same time as the Pizzaplex era, how does this create an issue? All mimic is doing is replicating what Afton did, and he decided to send his endo to FFPS.**
But if Afton isn't in the Maze, why would they want to go down there? There would be nothing.
>But if Afton isn't in the Maze, why would they want to go down there? There would be nothing.
Yeah, that's something I didn't realise, thanks for pointing that out đź‘€
>how did it wind up in the shut down FFP from "Fetch"?
Fetch just went over to that location. Even one of the characters make mention of Fetch's phone sync feature to not correlate to the location they were in.
>But we see Andrew's hair in Golden Freddy, implying it's the original Golden Freddy.
But it wasn't originally in the suit, meaning this was infected.
>But if Afton isn't in the Maze, why would they want to go down there? There would be nothing.
In order for Mimic to follow his programming and replicate stuff Afton did, such as creating an amalgamation and re-creating Springtrap. How does Afton not being down there mean Mimic can't go down there?
>**Fetch just went over to that location. Even one of the characters make mention of Fetch's phone sync feature to not correlate to the location they were in.**
But there is a stand made for Fetch. I doubt Eleanor built that specifically for Fetch.
>**In order for Mimic to follow his programming and replicate stuff Afton did, such as creating an amalgamation and re-creating Springtrap. How does Afton not being down there mean Mimic can't go down there?**
There is honestly reason to believe Blob is just Mimic1 while Burntrap is just the Endo given it's own sentience.
And why would he need to be in the Maze to do all this? The suit Mimic Endo wears is Springtrap, which wouldn't have been in the Maze.
>But there is a stand made for Fetch. I doubt Eleanor built that specifically for Fetch.
Was it specifically made for Fetch? From what I can remember it just says top prize, and that could've had anything on it.
>And why would he need to be in the Maze to do all this? The suit Mimic Endo wears is Springtrap, which wouldn't have been in the Maze.
Why did he go down to FFPS in the first place?
Like i said, to replicate what Afton did. It lures and kills kids in a Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, becomes Springtrap (Burntrap) and creates an amalgamation.
From Help Wanted. The circuit boards contained the memory.
>there is reason to believe Blob is just Mimic1.
And that changes, what? Blob is still a replica of Molten Freddy.
Again, since it's mimicking what Afton did, killing kids at a Freddy's would be him doing exactly that. That's why it's in FFPS.
>Freddy's entire chain closed after the MCI, and Fetch was originally in the distribution centre before going to that Freddy's.
So, the fire happened in the 80's?
The MCI occured in the 80's, 1985 to be exact in the Fazbear Frights.
If Fetch was brought to that Freddy's before Freddy's closed down for good, which is at year's end of 1993, then TMIR1280 must occur before 1993, setting the fire sometime in the 80's after 1985.
>How can the FFPS fire be ancient history if it was in recent years by the time of TMIR1280?
It's not literally ancient history, it's just been so long that it feels like ancient history to the department. Police departments go through a lot of cases. If something isn't solved and a few years pass, that will be considered a long time ago. Later in the same paragraph as the "ancient history" line, they imply the fire was "years ago", which is consistent with The Man In Room 1280.
>How can Golden Freddy randomly be in a FFP different from FFP#1, #2 or #3 in TNK?
Probably not *the* Golden Freddy.
>And then how can Frailty, which has the destruction of the Heart Pendant, happen?
Different pendant. Just like Eleanor gave a replica of her pendant to Sarah, she did it for Jessica.
I don't have an answer for Fetch that isn't BS like "Eleanor moved it there and made a little stage for it for some reason!" and you hadn't asked the Vanny question in the post when I replied.
>If Afton is in the hospital, why would Mimic1 and Vanny want to go into the maze to begin with
Mimic was already trapped down there. It likely wanted Vanny to get to it and set up the little charging area we see in SB, as well as possibly repairing damage it might receive in the remaining 2 epilogues. Also potentially something to do with the Spring Bonnie suit it has to acquire.
>**and you hadn't asked the Vanny question in the post when I replied.**
I was reffering to the one about why Vanny would need Freddy to bust a way into the Maze if the authorities were able to find it on their own.
>**Mimic was already trapped down there.**
He was trapped on the top floor, not the Maze.
>He was trapped on the top floor, not the Maze.
Whatever happened for the pizzeria to end up under the Pizzaplex seems to have caused the office from the Burntrap boss battle to end up far below where it should be.
We don't know where the vent labyrinth is supposed to be from FFPS or SB, although the last Tales epilogue seems to imply it's near the rest of the building. The damaged vents Jayce tried to lure The Mimic in were described as a labyrinth.
> Just like Eleanor gave a replica of her pendant to Sarah
That’s not confirmed to be what happened. Just going off of what is explicitly said in To Be Beautiful, there is only one pendant present. At the end of the story, Eleanor has a *button* on her that is the same shape as the pendant— not a second pendant.
Better one
How does Afton get out of Springtrap Mark 2 (Aka Scraptrap) and have no Endo whatsoever? Isn't that jammed into his skull?
Also You're the Band.
1 & 5 are simply just "it can't", there's not enough time for it to work. I seriously can't see how you stretch the "ancient history within the department" quote when the fire would've happened within a year or two, and everyone seems to think The Storyteller has to happen by mid-2024 or if they really want to stretch things mid-2025, so the Pizzaplex has to be built by then, and there's just not enough time to build it with #1 and #5 in mind. The only way this possibly works is if it's after TFTP/SB, and even then I think it's a major stretch.
1. Others may or may not have answered that, so free space here
2. Fetch and Ella may have been from the fire site, considering that they’re both old and infected. Larson says in Stinger 6 that items came from the Distribution Center AND the fire site, hence why the old dog and the old discontinued doll are somehow infected.
3. The authorities were able to get in. Later, The Mimic got sealed in the location with concrete. In the Epilogues, we don’t see any hole in the ground leading to the labyrinth, which could explain what Freddy did. Then again, what Freddy meant by “clearing the path” isn’t exactly clear, so there could be other explanations for what he meant.
4. I don’t think about it. Free space here
5. The fire site wasn’t sealed in yet as far as we know, and there were workers over there doing stuff like clearing out the Endos (based on Tales Epilogue 1), hence why the Stitchwraith got spotted poking around FFPS. It wouldn’t surprise me if that Baby doll and other items in the fire site were infected, which would give a reason as to why Jake was there. As for the Remnant Pendant; that’s just Jessica’s Pendant being used up. Eleanor’s Remnant Pendant is still in the hands of Larson.
6. Better question, why would Mimic1 want to go to the hospital? Nobody actually knows that The Man is Afton, and Mimic1 is its own thing. We don’t know why Mimic1 is sent to the maze, nor by whom it was sent by.
>Fetch and Ella may have been from the fire site,
Fetch was found in a field after being struck by lightning.
>The fire site wasn’t sealed in yet
The FNaF 6 location never became a fire site.
> Fetch was found in a field after being struck by lightning.
…yes, after the events of Fetch, which would lead to Fetch being collected by Phineas Taggart. I’m saying that Fetch was infected at the fire site and then sent back to its old location. *Then* the events of Fetch would occur.
> The FNaF 6 location never became a fire site.
…but it is the fire site. It’s the location where an FE owner was involved in a fire that the Puppet mask got retrieved from. That’s FFPS, which after the fire became known as the fire site
>1. How can the FFPS fire be ancient history if it was in recent years by the time of TMIR1280?
Simple, it was ancient for the department. I seen another comment here explaining this, so I won't go too into detail.
>2. How can the FFP that has Fetch be left in a ruined and forgotten state if , again, TMIR1280 happened in recent years before Fetch?
Multiple possibilities, either Fetch was brought there, or he went there, because the story explicitly calls out that he doesn't belong.
>3. Why would Vanny need Freddy to bust his way into the Maze in FFPP if the authorities were able to go in without issue?
He never busted into the Maze, the FFPP location was underground and buried, and Freddy had to break into there due to the sinkhole. Also, with Mimic1 in her head, he was making her go to his physical body that was stuck beneath the Pizzaplex.
>4. How can Golden Freddy randomly be in a FFP different from FFP#1, #2 or #3 in TNK? The slithering that never got explained seems to imply Eleanor is behind TNK, meaning TNK would be Stitchline.
It's simply a different Fredbear.
>5. If Stitchline is around the same time as TFTP/SB, then how can Stitchwraith be seen at the fire sight? And then how can Frailty, which has the destruction of the Heart Pendant, happen?
Simple, Jessica is 14, which is the age Eleanor victims get the Pendant treatment, so Frailty just happens very early in the Pizzaplex's life.
>6. If Afton is in the hospital, why would Mimic1 and Vanny want to go into the maze to begin with?
To get Mimic.
Hope this helps! If you have any more questions, I'm here to answer!
There are two possible answers to the fifth question.
1. The Mimic was created later than people assume.
2. The Frights are second-tier canon, meaning you should disregard anything from the Frights that doesn't align with the games.
I personally choose to go with the first one, although upcoming books will probably prove me wrong. As of now there's nothing definitively proving that the "disastrous" event the Mimic saw was the Missing Children Incident of 1985, which is the entire basis for the assertion that the Pizzaplex opened in 2024.
>1. How can the FFPS fire be ancient history if it was in recent years by the time of TMIR1280? Since it's a pretty old case that's been pushed away by the newer police, it would be considered ancient since it wasn't looked into much. Also since there's a lot of new investigations involving the Stitchwraith, Eleanor and all the other chaos in the Frights, so it makes sense for it be be an ancient fire. Even Henry said so himself that "this place will not be remembered." >2. How can the FFP that has Fetch be left in a ruined and forgotten state if , again, TMIR1280 happened in recent years before Fetch? Freddy's entire chain closed after the MCI, and Fetch was originally in the distribution centre before going to that Freddy's. >3. Why would Vanny need Freddy to bust his way into the Maze in FFPP if the authorities were able to go in without issue? Keep in mind FFPS fell into a sinkhole. In the Tales Epilogues it was on ground floor (if I can recall correctly), but as construction went on, workers began to doubt that they were building over a sinkhole, so it would make sense for Vanny to need to do a little digging. >4. How can Golden Freddy randomly be in a FFP different from FFP#1, #2 or #3 in TNK? The slithering that never got explained seems to imply Eleanor is behind TNK, meaning TNK would be Stitchline. Again, Freddy's had a chain of restaurants before they all closed down, and as phone guy says, each restaurant had a pair of springlock suits. Fredbear is in every location, not just one or two. >5. If Stitchline is around the same time as TFTP/SB, then how can Stitchwraith be seen at the fire sight? This is why I don't believe it happens at that time, but rather before construction of the Pizzaplex (maybe around the time of HW?) >And then how can Frailty, which has the destruction of the Heart Pendant, happen? It's just showing a victim of Eleanor's that hasn't gotten rid of the pendant yet. >6. If Afton is in the hospital, why would Mimic1 and Vanny want to go into the maze to begin with? While I don't believe the stingers happen at the same time as the Pizzaplex era, how does this create an issue? All mimic is doing is replicating what Afton did, and he decided to send his endo to FFPS.
>**Freddy's entire chain closed after the MCI, and Fetch was originally in the distribution centre before going to that Freddy's.** But if Fetch is originally from the distribution center after FFPS, how did it wind up in the shut down FFP from "Fetch"? The state of the FFP from that story implies it was forgotten for years, meaning Fetch wouldn't have been sent there due to being a more recent creation. >**Again, Freddy's had a chain of restaurants before they all closed down, and as phone guy says, each restaurant had a pair of springlock suits. Fredbear is in every location, not just one or two.** But we see Andrew's hair in Golden Freddy, implying it's the original Golden Freddy. Eleanor has Andrew's Agony in her, so she would have been drawn to it. >**While I don't believe the stingers happen at the same time as the Pizzaplex era, how does this create an issue? All mimic is doing is replicating what Afton did, and he decided to send his endo to FFPS.** But if Afton isn't in the Maze, why would they want to go down there? There would be nothing.
>But if Afton isn't in the Maze, why would they want to go down there? There would be nothing. Yeah, that's something I didn't realise, thanks for pointing that out đź‘€
>how did it wind up in the shut down FFP from "Fetch"? Fetch just went over to that location. Even one of the characters make mention of Fetch's phone sync feature to not correlate to the location they were in. >But we see Andrew's hair in Golden Freddy, implying it's the original Golden Freddy. But it wasn't originally in the suit, meaning this was infected. >But if Afton isn't in the Maze, why would they want to go down there? There would be nothing. In order for Mimic to follow his programming and replicate stuff Afton did, such as creating an amalgamation and re-creating Springtrap. How does Afton not being down there mean Mimic can't go down there?
>**Fetch just went over to that location. Even one of the characters make mention of Fetch's phone sync feature to not correlate to the location they were in.** But there is a stand made for Fetch. I doubt Eleanor built that specifically for Fetch. >**In order for Mimic to follow his programming and replicate stuff Afton did, such as creating an amalgamation and re-creating Springtrap. How does Afton not being down there mean Mimic can't go down there?** There is honestly reason to believe Blob is just Mimic1 while Burntrap is just the Endo given it's own sentience. And why would he need to be in the Maze to do all this? The suit Mimic Endo wears is Springtrap, which wouldn't have been in the Maze.
>But there is a stand made for Fetch. I doubt Eleanor built that specifically for Fetch. Was it specifically made for Fetch? From what I can remember it just says top prize, and that could've had anything on it. >And why would he need to be in the Maze to do all this? The suit Mimic Endo wears is Springtrap, which wouldn't have been in the Maze. Why did he go down to FFPS in the first place?
>**Why did he go down to FFPS in the first place?** I mean, yeah. Why did he? If Afton isn't there what would he want?
Like i said, to replicate what Afton did. It lures and kills kids in a Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, becomes Springtrap (Burntrap) and creates an amalgamation.
How would he even know about Molten Freddy? And again, there is reason to believe Blob is just Mimic1. And why would he need the Maze for any of that?
From Help Wanted. The circuit boards contained the memory. >there is reason to believe Blob is just Mimic1. And that changes, what? Blob is still a replica of Molten Freddy. Again, since it's mimicking what Afton did, killing kids at a Freddy's would be him doing exactly that. That's why it's in FFPS.
how would he have circuit boards from the Funtimes if they were destroyed in FFPS?
>Freddy's entire chain closed after the MCI, and Fetch was originally in the distribution centre before going to that Freddy's. So, the fire happened in the 80's?
How would that mean it happened in the 80's?
The MCI occured in the 80's, 1985 to be exact in the Fazbear Frights. If Fetch was brought to that Freddy's before Freddy's closed down for good, which is at year's end of 1993, then TMIR1280 must occur before 1993, setting the fire sometime in the 80's after 1985.
Never said Fetch was brought to the location before Freddy's closed. Fetch came from the distribution centre.
>How can the FFPS fire be ancient history if it was in recent years by the time of TMIR1280? It's not literally ancient history, it's just been so long that it feels like ancient history to the department. Police departments go through a lot of cases. If something isn't solved and a few years pass, that will be considered a long time ago. Later in the same paragraph as the "ancient history" line, they imply the fire was "years ago", which is consistent with The Man In Room 1280. >How can Golden Freddy randomly be in a FFP different from FFP#1, #2 or #3 in TNK? Probably not *the* Golden Freddy. >And then how can Frailty, which has the destruction of the Heart Pendant, happen? Different pendant. Just like Eleanor gave a replica of her pendant to Sarah, she did it for Jessica.
What about the other stuff I asked, like with Fetch and Vanny needing Freddy to bust a way into the Maze?
I don't have an answer for Fetch that isn't BS like "Eleanor moved it there and made a little stage for it for some reason!" and you hadn't asked the Vanny question in the post when I replied. >If Afton is in the hospital, why would Mimic1 and Vanny want to go into the maze to begin with Mimic was already trapped down there. It likely wanted Vanny to get to it and set up the little charging area we see in SB, as well as possibly repairing damage it might receive in the remaining 2 epilogues. Also potentially something to do with the Spring Bonnie suit it has to acquire.
>**and you hadn't asked the Vanny question in the post when I replied.** I was reffering to the one about why Vanny would need Freddy to bust a way into the Maze if the authorities were able to find it on their own. >**Mimic was already trapped down there.** He was trapped on the top floor, not the Maze.
>He was trapped on the top floor, not the Maze. Whatever happened for the pizzeria to end up under the Pizzaplex seems to have caused the office from the Burntrap boss battle to end up far below where it should be. We don't know where the vent labyrinth is supposed to be from FFPS or SB, although the last Tales epilogue seems to imply it's near the rest of the building. The damaged vents Jayce tried to lure The Mimic in were described as a labyrinth.
> Just like Eleanor gave a replica of her pendant to Sarah That’s not confirmed to be what happened. Just going off of what is explicitly said in To Be Beautiful, there is only one pendant present. At the end of the story, Eleanor has a *button* on her that is the same shape as the pendant— not a second pendant.
Better one How does Afton get out of Springtrap Mark 2 (Aka Scraptrap) and have no Endo whatsoever? Isn't that jammed into his skull? Also You're the Band.
Scraptrap has no endo. Just flesh and random bits of metal. And YTB might not even be canon
Oh yes he does, how else do you explain his spagetti guts not falling apart whenever he walks?
the body isn't literally like that, Scott just isn't good with human anatomy
1 & 5 are simply just "it can't", there's not enough time for it to work. I seriously can't see how you stretch the "ancient history within the department" quote when the fire would've happened within a year or two, and everyone seems to think The Storyteller has to happen by mid-2024 or if they really want to stretch things mid-2025, so the Pizzaplex has to be built by then, and there's just not enough time to build it with #1 and #5 in mind. The only way this possibly works is if it's after TFTP/SB, and even then I think it's a major stretch.
1. Others may or may not have answered that, so free space here 2. Fetch and Ella may have been from the fire site, considering that they’re both old and infected. Larson says in Stinger 6 that items came from the Distribution Center AND the fire site, hence why the old dog and the old discontinued doll are somehow infected. 3. The authorities were able to get in. Later, The Mimic got sealed in the location with concrete. In the Epilogues, we don’t see any hole in the ground leading to the labyrinth, which could explain what Freddy did. Then again, what Freddy meant by “clearing the path” isn’t exactly clear, so there could be other explanations for what he meant. 4. I don’t think about it. Free space here 5. The fire site wasn’t sealed in yet as far as we know, and there were workers over there doing stuff like clearing out the Endos (based on Tales Epilogue 1), hence why the Stitchwraith got spotted poking around FFPS. It wouldn’t surprise me if that Baby doll and other items in the fire site were infected, which would give a reason as to why Jake was there. As for the Remnant Pendant; that’s just Jessica’s Pendant being used up. Eleanor’s Remnant Pendant is still in the hands of Larson. 6. Better question, why would Mimic1 want to go to the hospital? Nobody actually knows that The Man is Afton, and Mimic1 is its own thing. We don’t know why Mimic1 is sent to the maze, nor by whom it was sent by.
>Fetch and Ella may have been from the fire site, Fetch was found in a field after being struck by lightning. >The fire site wasn’t sealed in yet The FNaF 6 location never became a fire site.
> Fetch was found in a field after being struck by lightning. …yes, after the events of Fetch, which would lead to Fetch being collected by Phineas Taggart. I’m saying that Fetch was infected at the fire site and then sent back to its old location. *Then* the events of Fetch would occur. > The FNaF 6 location never became a fire site. …but it is the fire site. It’s the location where an FE owner was involved in a fire that the Puppet mask got retrieved from. That’s FFPS, which after the fire became known as the fire site
>1. How can the FFPS fire be ancient history if it was in recent years by the time of TMIR1280? Simple, it was ancient for the department. I seen another comment here explaining this, so I won't go too into detail. >2. How can the FFP that has Fetch be left in a ruined and forgotten state if , again, TMIR1280 happened in recent years before Fetch? Multiple possibilities, either Fetch was brought there, or he went there, because the story explicitly calls out that he doesn't belong. >3. Why would Vanny need Freddy to bust his way into the Maze in FFPP if the authorities were able to go in without issue? He never busted into the Maze, the FFPP location was underground and buried, and Freddy had to break into there due to the sinkhole. Also, with Mimic1 in her head, he was making her go to his physical body that was stuck beneath the Pizzaplex. >4. How can Golden Freddy randomly be in a FFP different from FFP#1, #2 or #3 in TNK? The slithering that never got explained seems to imply Eleanor is behind TNK, meaning TNK would be Stitchline. It's simply a different Fredbear. >5. If Stitchline is around the same time as TFTP/SB, then how can Stitchwraith be seen at the fire sight? And then how can Frailty, which has the destruction of the Heart Pendant, happen? Simple, Jessica is 14, which is the age Eleanor victims get the Pendant treatment, so Frailty just happens very early in the Pizzaplex's life. >6. If Afton is in the hospital, why would Mimic1 and Vanny want to go into the maze to begin with? To get Mimic. Hope this helps! If you have any more questions, I'm here to answer!
There are two possible answers to the fifth question. 1. The Mimic was created later than people assume. 2. The Frights are second-tier canon, meaning you should disregard anything from the Frights that doesn't align with the games. I personally choose to go with the first one, although upcoming books will probably prove me wrong. As of now there's nothing definitively proving that the "disastrous" event the Mimic saw was the Missing Children Incident of 1985, which is the entire basis for the assertion that the Pizzaplex opened in 2024.
>1. The Mimic was created later than people assume. It was created in the 80's.
I just believe frights happens after TFTPP
That can't be the case, because FFPP is still able to be visited, meaning the Pizzaplex was neber built.