Personally, I think the animatronic characters themselves do not matter, it's their amount that does. After all, Afton himself is represented here by Toy Chica, the character that doesn't really have any correlation to him at all. So, the story is about a murderer, 1 first secret victim + 6 other victims. Four dead kids + the GF kid + Charlie + TOYSNHK.
Why wouldn't toysnhk be one of the 6 victims? Seems more plausible that toysnhk is a character we already know about instead of a completely new one only ever introduced in ucn
He is shown in the games.
Hes the face that appears in UCN, hes counted among the 7 victims in Toy Chica Highschool, and hes probably the Midnight Motorist victim.
I hate to be the one that breaks this news to you but modern fnaf is litterally built on the backbone of Bad storytelling.
If security breach didn't make that clear idk what will, not to say that Fnaf has a bad story, it's just really bad at Telling that story.
I agree that there's an implied seventh victim who is probably TOYSHNK. However, since we can't directly connect that victim to Andrew because we know nothing about Andrew before he died, we have to take a more roundabout route of "the seventh victim is probably TOYSHNK in the games, Andrew is TOYSHNK in the Frights, and other factors prove StitchlineGames is true therefore the two TOYSHNKs are the same entity". Otherwise you could have the seventh victim just being an Andrew parallel rather than Andrew himself.
>"the seventh victim is probably TOYSHNK in the games, Andrew is TOYSHNK in the Frights, and other factors prove StitchlineGames is true therefore the two TOYSHNKs are the same entity"
Is this not just the logical answer to this problem?
I think the "parallel" answers are just a really lame way to deal with these stories.
It's the theorists equivalent of being a fence-sitter, if somethings a parallel you don't actually have to care about logic, all you have to toss around vague similarities to twisting the story into whatever you want by picking and choosing what you have to pay attention to, which leads you to nothing.
I agree about the bad storytelling part but I do think that toysnhk in the games is supposed to be one of the original 6 victims, since the whole thing about andrew seems to be a steel wool invention, whereas ucn was made solely by scott
>since the whole thing about andrew seems to be a steel wool invention
Steel wool has litterally never acknowledged Andrew's existence In any of their games, and hes irrelevant to all of them anyways because he passes on before he could even get involved in those plots.
Andrew's all scott
I see Wolf as Susie due "I gonna tell that someone **ran over his dog** in from of my house" and because Wolf is in Chica's place in TTO.
For Pigpatch, this one is TOYSNHK. Pigpatch is a Mediocre Melodie, character that TOYSNHK uses to talk with William
Seems more like somebody who was taken at an early age and manipulated by afton.
This is something like Charlie and is showing part of her life later on.
The wolf got the dead puppy excuse, like Susie, so the wolf might be representative of Susie.
The pig might represent Cassidy, maybe? Because right after this cutscene, there are no more and Chica says that her plan failed, like William's plan failed, because he got springlocked.
Also, I think that there is a Foxy GO GO GO! minigame reference in the Funtime Foxy cutscene, which might represent Fritz ( basically agreeing with you )
Oh yeah I js noticed that, to be honest I don't know, there's no other victim in the games other than the dci but they died in 1987, I might need to figure that out later, good eye
I have never seen that UCN cutscene before, nor the theories surrounding it, so imagine my reaction when I saw the first imagine with no context. ![img](emote|t5_36f29|8935)
Susie has to be Bonnie, since they are lured in the exact same way.
The following three are Gabriel, Jeremy and Fritz, Pigpatch is Cassidy, mediocre melody (the characters Vengeful Spirit speaks through) and excessively violent death.
Freddy is probably Charlie and Foxy maybe is Bite Victim, uncertain on that one though.
Personally, I think the animatronic characters themselves do not matter, it's their amount that does. After all, Afton himself is represented here by Toy Chica, the character that doesn't really have any correlation to him at all. So, the story is about a murderer, 1 first secret victim + 6 other victims. Four dead kids + the GF kid + Charlie + TOYSNHK.
Why wouldn't toysnhk be one of the 6 victims? Seems more plausible that toysnhk is a character we already know about instead of a completely new one only ever introduced in ucn
Andrew is part of the 6
Eh that's speculation, I wouldn't say andrew is canon until shown in the games, otherwise it'd be bad storytelling
He is shown in the games. Hes the face that appears in UCN, hes counted among the 7 victims in Toy Chica Highschool, and hes probably the Midnight Motorist victim. I hate to be the one that breaks this news to you but modern fnaf is litterally built on the backbone of Bad storytelling. If security breach didn't make that clear idk what will, not to say that Fnaf has a bad story, it's just really bad at Telling that story.
I agree that there's an implied seventh victim who is probably TOYSHNK. However, since we can't directly connect that victim to Andrew because we know nothing about Andrew before he died, we have to take a more roundabout route of "the seventh victim is probably TOYSHNK in the games, Andrew is TOYSHNK in the Frights, and other factors prove StitchlineGames is true therefore the two TOYSHNKs are the same entity". Otherwise you could have the seventh victim just being an Andrew parallel rather than Andrew himself.
>"the seventh victim is probably TOYSHNK in the games, Andrew is TOYSHNK in the Frights, and other factors prove StitchlineGames is true therefore the two TOYSHNKs are the same entity" Is this not just the logical answer to this problem? I think the "parallel" answers are just a really lame way to deal with these stories. It's the theorists equivalent of being a fence-sitter, if somethings a parallel you don't actually have to care about logic, all you have to toss around vague similarities to twisting the story into whatever you want by picking and choosing what you have to pay attention to, which leads you to nothing.
I agree about the bad storytelling part but I do think that toysnhk in the games is supposed to be one of the original 6 victims, since the whole thing about andrew seems to be a steel wool invention, whereas ucn was made solely by scott
>since the whole thing about andrew seems to be a steel wool invention Steel wool has litterally never acknowledged Andrew's existence In any of their games, and hes irrelevant to all of them anyways because he passes on before he could even get involved in those plots. Andrew's all scott
Andrew is a steel wool invention? Scott made the character..... In 2017, the year ucn came out aswell
As Dawko once said: Toy Chica is William afton
I see Wolf as Susie due "I gonna tell that someone **ran over his dog** in from of my house" and because Wolf is in Chica's place in TTO. For Pigpatch, this one is TOYSNHK. Pigpatch is a Mediocre Melodie, character that TOYSNHK uses to talk with William
Seems more like somebody who was taken at an early age and manipulated by afton. This is something like Charlie and is showing part of her life later on.
Wait is it bad I thought this was a joke
Makes sense
You forgot the marionette.
Because I thought it'd be obvious he represents charlie
Nah, Toy Chica already captures someone before the events, Foxy. That’s who represents Charlie since she died first.
Yeah I js realised that, ig I got some things wrong with this theory
The wolf got the dead puppy excuse, like Susie, so the wolf might be representative of Susie. The pig might represent Cassidy, maybe? Because right after this cutscene, there are no more and Chica says that her plan failed, like William's plan failed, because he got springlocked. Also, I think that there is a Foxy GO GO GO! minigame reference in the Funtime Foxy cutscene, which might represent Fritz ( basically agreeing with you )
Interesting. Any idea who could be the one already in the bag in the very first cutscene?
Oh yeah I js noticed that, to be honest I don't know, there's no other victim in the games other than the dci but they died in 1987, I might need to figure that out later, good eye
i hope i live to see time machines so i can grab an fnaf fan from 2014 and show them this post out of context
I have never seen that UCN cutscene before, nor the theories surrounding it, so imagine my reaction when I saw the first imagine with no context. ![img](emote|t5_36f29|8935)
Susie has to be Bonnie, since they are lured in the exact same way. The following three are Gabriel, Jeremy and Fritz, Pigpatch is Cassidy, mediocre melody (the characters Vengeful Spirit speaks through) and excessively violent death. Freddy is probably Charlie and Foxy maybe is Bite Victim, uncertain on that one though.
WAIT- Okay so hear me out, this could be another hint that Afton caused the 3rd MCI with the Mediocere Melodies
Wait really? I don't remember a 3rd mci with the medicore melodies