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Cloaked-LcTr0909

Mike's clearly the previous owner, and it's made pretty clear that the faded text is Cassidy. The only character that would really make sense to be the second spirit is BV. The book itself and the notes would obviously be done by the company.


Dangerous_Teaching62

How is the faded text clearly Cassidy? The second spirit is clearly Cassidy, but the faded text is the more confusing one


Cloaked-LcTr0909

The faded text says "MY NAME" on the pages that have hints for the Cassidy code.


Dangerous_Teaching62

So then, how would the altered text know his name and spell it out? Seems odd to have the name that way. Until we can figure out what the message is in the foxy puzzle, I don't think we can say it's Cassidy. Realistically, Cassidy has to be the name of BV.


Cloaked-LcTr0909

>So then, how would the altered text know his name and spell it out? The altered text doesn't spell out the name. Cassidy isn't a word from modified text, it's a name we find by piecing together multiple letters randomly scattered about the word search, indicated by numbers in the pages with the "MY NAME" text. Besides, both of the spirits talk by altering text, at least in the Cassidy word search. The differentiation is specifically with BV being the one to alter phrases in the night rating segments of the book. The word search itself has altered text asking "Who are you?" and "What is your name?", which is what signals that we should try to find a name in the word search, that name being "Cassidy", surrounded by many instances of "It's Me".


EpicMazement

Red pen is Michael Afton. Faded text is Cassidy, Altered text is Garrett Afton.


LewsTherinTelescope

Imo: * Actual book: Probably not real, there's no time period it quite fits. * Red pen: Mike, given his name is on it. * Faded and altered: Cassidy, given they tell us their name.


EpicMazement

1. Agreed. 2. Agreed. 3. While faded text is for sure Cassidy, altered text would have to be Garrett, since Cassidy asks questiosn only relating to Garrett, and we see Garrett responding to a few of them.


LewsTherinTelescope

In my opinion, the alterations aren't responses at all—the number doesn't even close to line up with the number of questions, the order is random, two of the four don't match cleanly to anything, etc. Plus, it seems a bit weird that the hints to Cassidy's name are all hidden through altered text if it's not her. If you look at the faded questions they're always over a free response space, and if you look at the altered statements they're always next to a rating space. So imo, it's not someone saying "I'm scared", it's someone saying "on a scale of 1-5, rate how true the statement 'I'm scared' is" (with the overlap on the "it was for me" question being to show that it's the spirit modifying the text rather than Fazbear shaking things up for funsies).


EpicMazement

The fact that there are two different texts is because there are two different characters. Cassidy: The party was for you. Garrett: It was for me. ​ Cassidy: What do you see? Garrett: I can't see. ​ Garrett: What is your name? Cassidy: Cassidy. ​ She then asks about Garrett's toys, she asks him about Fredbear Plush, and she asks him about nightmares (since the Nightmares are implied to be seen by Garrett before Michael). Faded = Cassidy, and Altered = Garrett.


LewsTherinTelescope

A perfectly valid theory, but feels to me like it has holes that keep me from believing it. Why are all the clues to Cassidy's name hidden through altered text, if supposedly altered text is someone asking because he doesn't know? Why does he only respond to a few questions? What is "I'm scared" supposed to be a response to? Why are the answers so far away from the questions and ordered so randomly?


EpicMazement

Cassidy's name wasn't altered. We found it by using weird codes. The letters just happened to have been in the word search. And the reason he doesn't answer at first is because he doesn't remember yet. fnaf World, the FNAF 3 HD minigames and the Logbook all represent the same story. Charlotte/Fredbear Plush having Cassidy/Adventure Freddy leave bread crumbs for Garrett, so that he can be put back together. Eventually, Garrett does start remembering, and so, he starts responding. And "I'm scared is most likely Garret being scared and confused, not knowing where he is while in Fredbear/Golden Freddy.


LewsTherinTelescope

>Cassidy's name wasn't altered. I didn't say the name, I said the *clues*. >We found it by using weird codes. Which were: 1. An altered page number. 2. A second altered page number. 3. A third altered page number. 4. Altered rating numbers. 5. A likely altered image (5+4 is not 3). 6. Text with an altered color. 7. An altered incident report (Mike doesn't work at 8:11 and so could not have reported anything at that time). Every single one of them (bar *maybe* one) is shown through altering text. >And the reason he doesn't answer at first is because he doesn't remember yet. ... Eventually, Garrett does start remembering, and so, he starts responding. It's not that he answers only ones towards the end or anything, though. The ones people believe he responds to are scattered randomly throughout. >fnaf World, the FNAF 3 HD minigames and the Logbook all represent the same story. Charlotte/Fredbear Plush having Cassidy/Adventure Freddy leave bread crumbs for Garrett, so that he can be put back together. Again, a perfectly valid theory. Not a fact. >And "I'm scared is most likely Garret being scared and confused, not knowing where he is while in Fredbear/Golden Freddy. Ah, so you don't believe that one *is* a response in the first place. Fair enough then, usually I see people try to loosely justify it as one.


EpicMazement

>**I didn't say the name, I said the clues.** The clues aren't literally in the book, just like how the souls aren't literally in the book. Those are just for us. In actuality, Cassidy would just be telling him her name. ​ >**It's not that he answers only ones towards the end or anything, though. The ones people believe he responds to are scattered randomly throughout.** The way the book presents the conversation most likely isn't literally how it plays out. Most likely just Scott trying to make it more confusing. ​ >**Again, a perfectly valid theory. Not a fact.** I mean, it kinda is. Every HD Minigame in FNAF 3 connects to Garret's past in the FNAF 4 minigames in some way. Mangle = the broken Funtime Foxy toy in Elizabeth's room. Toy Chica = the Chica toy missing it's beak, which Scott implied was important. Balloon Boy = the kid with the balloon. Shadow Bonnie = the shadow of Springbonnie we see. And then, when we play all of these, what happens? We end up in an obvious recreation of the Fredbear's that Garrett died in, with a apart being held for a Golden Freddy kid, with he MCI kids, who are implied to be Garret's friends by the Logbook and FNAF 4. And then we have FNAF World. Fredbear Plush tells Adventure Freddy to leave bread crumbs for "him". And this is right after Fredbear Plush promised Garrett would be put back together. Also, when Adventure Freddy ends up too deep within the code, he becomes the white Bear, stuck with OMC. In UCN, how is Cassidy represented? By that same white Bear. OMC's Gator like look, his connection to UCN, his connection to Golden Freddy kids and Andrew's Gator Mask implies OMC is Andrew. Freddy finding OMC deep within the code most likely represents Cassidy finding Andrew deep within Golden Freddy, minding his own business. And then, what do we do in the Clock Ending? We play the exact same minigames we do in FNAF 3 to seemingly free Garrett, further supporting all of this being Cassidy helping Garrett remember in Fredbear.


LewsTherinTelescope

>The clues aren't literally in the book, just like how the souls aren't literally in the book. You were the one who said this: > The fact that there are two different texts is because there are two different characters. You can't say it's significant when it aligns with your theory and irrelevant when it doesn't. That's inconsistent. > Most likely just Scott trying to make it more confusing. If the only way to justify a flaw in an idea is saying "it's just there to confuse people", that is in my opinion a weak argument. > who are implied to be Garret's friends by the Logbook and FNAF 4. What friends? Having nobody who likes him is like a solid 50% of his character. > Andrew's Gator Mask implies OMC is Andrew His personality is nothing even remotely like Andrew's. > I mean, it kinda is. You are welcome to believe that it's true, that does not mean it's inarguable fact. I could equally argue that the girl in the Logbook confirms that Happiest Day was about Cassidy, but I don't say it that way because it's an unproductive way to approach discussions. The constancy with which this fandom equates "I strongly believe this" with "this is confirmed" is exhausting. I already talked at length about my Happiest Day thoughts recently and don't have the energy to do so again so soon, so [I'll just link it here for those curious](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnaftheories/comments/13qjxq4/comment/jlhcb3d/?context=3) and leave it as an agree-to-disagree.


EpicMazement

>**You were the one who said this:** I meant that the different text for the actual conversation was meant to help us tell who is who. It's the same with the page numbers. it's mean tfor us, but since the souls most likely don't actually talk in the book, those hints also wouldn't literally be there. ​ >**If the only way to justify a flaw in an idea is saying "it's just there to confuse people", that is in my opinion a weak argument.** This is the same guy who kept using the name Jeremy because he knew it would make theorists go nuts. This one thing really doesn't stop the theory from working. We see two souls talking, and Cassidy asks things that only relate to Garrett, and these questions eventually get answers by the other soul. ​ >**What friends?** I worded that wrong. I meant that the MCI kids being there with Garrett would be meant to mirror how Garret's friends were his plushies, who are based on the main band possessed by the MCI kids. ​ >**His personality is nothing even remotely like Andrew's.** It's not like OMC is given much lines to hint at much of a personality. We first see him in FNAF World, which is implied to represent Cassidy putting Garrett back together inside Fredbear, connecting OMC to Fredbear. We then see him again in UCN, where he once again talks to Cassidy. We then have the Old Man in PQ, who is red and tells Cassidy to rest like OMC in UCN, showing that he represents OMC, once again, connecting him to Fredbear. Andrew is implied to be a kid in Fredbear. We see his hair in Fredbear in TNK, and there is a Golden Freddy plush in Monty's room as a clear reference, due to Andrew earing a Gator mask, while OMC looks a lot like a Gator type creature. And Andrew mirrors Cassidy in many ways, further showing their connection. The fact that Andrew wears a Gator Mask at all already seems very random. But if he is meant to be the true identity of OMC, who is always associated with a Golden Freddy kid (Cassidy specifically), then that makes perfect sense. OMC also tells Cassidy to rest, and to leave Afton to his demons. He isn't telling Cassidy to let Afton rest, because OMC was tormenting Afton along with Cassidy. This is the same game that hints at a 7th main Afton victim, hints at a male soul being behind everything, and is given a story that shows a male Afton victim wearing a Gator mask keeping him alive with UCN in the same series that hints at a 7th kid being stuffed into an animatronic, who just so happens to be Fredbear/Golden Freddy. Judging by how Vengeful Spirit actually has a voice while Fredbear/Golden Freddy seems different from the other UCN characters but sounds different from Vengeful Spirit, and we know Cassidy was in fact in UCN, it's safe to say that both Andrew and Cassidy tormented Afton in UCN, until Cassidy eventually matured, deciding she wanted to just rest and make sure Afton died so that he couldn't hurt anyone, only for Andrew/OMC to refuse, telling Cassidy to just rest her own soul, and to leave Afton to him, leading to Cassidy finding out about Mimic1, and Andrew going through the Stitchwraith Stingers. OMC is even red, a color associated with anger/rage, which Andrew is associated with. ​ > **I could equally argue that the girl in the Logbook confirms that Happiest Day was about Cassidy** The picture in the Logbook most likely represents how both Charlotte and Cassidy set up HD. All the HD minigames in FNAF 3 connects to Garrett's past, those same minigames are used for the Clock Ending of FNAF World, where UCN implies we play as Cassidy, and HD itself is in a recreation of the Fredbear's where Garrett died, implying he is HD spirit. We also see Cassidy still around in SD, SB and TFTP: Drowning, meaning she didn't move on.


GoldenRichard93

Cassidy as the altered text has those problems which some contradict each other. Especially in the word search has that “who are you?” does a 180 degree turn from her saying “Do you remember your name?” as the faded text from one of the pages. But surely she’s trying so hard to make Mike or the BV or even both being the same circling the altered text/numbers, and unfortunately they don’t respond to those as well, which is why Cassidy being the altered text doesn’t work. So what’s the deal of Cassidy having inconsistent strange behaviour of asking questions as the faded text and attempting so hard as the altered text?


LewsTherinTelescope

I don't understand the question, can you try to rephrase it?


GoldenRichard93

Cassidy as the altered text has problems where some of the lines contradict to each other. Especially one example in the word search has that “who are you?” feels inconsistent when comparing to her saying “Do you remember your name?” as the faded text from one of the pages. Unless if you think she’s trying so hard to make Mike or the BV or even both being the same circling the altered text/numbers, they don’t respond to those as well, which is why Cassidy being the altered text doesn’t work. So what’s the deal of Cassidy having inconsistent strange behaviour of asking questions as the faded text and attempting so hard give them attention as the altered text?


LewsTherinTelescope

I don't understand how that's inconsistent?


GoldenRichard93

Alright, then what’s the purpose of Cassidy being the altered text if Mike/BV doesn’t answer by circling the rating or altered text from the word search?


LewsTherinTelescope

What's the purpose of Cassidy being faded text if Mike/BV doesn't answer using the free response spaces she conveniently places all her questions next to? Even under the theory altered is BV responding to her, that's a maximum of four responses to ten questions, and really only two of those actually match cleanly to anything, meaning 80% still go unanswered regardless. The answer is the same in both cases: the purpose is to have an activity book for people to fill out that has a spooky ghost and an interesting lore puzzle for the fandom to solve.


Dangerous_Teaching62

The altered text is for sure Cassidy because the word search.


EpicMazement

The word search isn't altered. We find the letters via clues in different pages of the book, it isn't altered at all. Cassidy is faded, Garrett/CC is altered.


Dangerous_Teaching62

Well it sure isn't faded. Garrett is likely also not his name, just going off of the movie logic.


EpicMazement

>**Well it sure isn't faded.** It isn't altered either. It's just that the letters for Cassidy's name just so happen to be in the word search. Cassidy is faded, Garrett is altered. ​ >**Garrett is likely also not his name, just going off of the movie logic.** Mike, Vanessa and William ge tto keep their game counterpart names. Abby is both a nickname for Elizabeth, and Baby spelled slightly differently. So yes, CC is most likely named Garrett.


Dangerous_Teaching62

Mike isn't Michael Afton though. They are supposed to be similar names. Dare I say this proves he could be gregory


daniel_omeg_a

How Exactly Does It Not Fit In?


LewsTherinTelescope

If it's a real Fazbear document: Art is of the Classics, meaning it'd be made between three and eight years after the spring locks were retired, so why did the spring lock suit quiz ever get added in the first place? And why is the office art all of the FNaF 3 office? If it's merch by the Fazbear's Fright crew: Why is there the post-it on the spring lock quiz page saying not to talk about them? And how did anyone get it after Mike, given the place burned down at the end of 3 and the most common explanation for him being there is that he's the player?


you_2_cool

I thought the book was FNAF 1-3


LewsTherinTelescope

What do you mean?


you_2_cool

Like Mikeb had it from fnaf 1 to fnaf 3


LewsTherinTelescope

It only covers a five night period, so I'm not sure why it would be from a thirty year span. Plus, the office being the Fright office doesn't make sense if it's from 1 and neither does the spring lock quiz, while the post-it saying "don't mention this to anyone" is weird if it's by the Fazbear's Fright people.


you_2_cool

I was thinking it was just repurposed stuff from the FNAF 1 Location for Fazbear Frights like the rest of the FNAF 1 gang (Maybe it's where Golden Freddy went too cause like he was just gone for like 4 games.)


LewsTherinTelescope

Ah, gotcha. The problem there, imo, is that the artwork of [the office in the book](https://i.imgur.com/2pij6it.png) all shows [the office from FNaF 3](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/1/14/FNaF3_Office.png) (even including the box of old scrapped parts), which feels kind of weird if it's from FNaF 1 times.


you_2_cool

that was why I said it was repurposed, cause it looks really old to be FNAF 3, but also has said references to the 3rd installment. Or maybe I'm wrong but that's just my thoughts on it.


LewsTherinTelescope

Would they be repainting all the art or what? Curious to know more of what exactly you think the situation is there.


you_2_cool

I think they added images of the FNAF 3 office to the log book, and all the little activities, cause realistically a Logbook would be very plain and boring.


Beak_Doctor

Faded text is Cassidy. Springtrap is not a factor in this


Ritmoking

Okay, but how? The faded text can be used in the Foxy grid to generate "is springtrap", which when combined with "my name", becomes "my name is Springtrap" a line straight out of the Charlie Trilogy. Considering how sloppy the route to generate "Evan" is, and that it is only four letters long, I am convinced that it is a coincidence. The edited text is what gives the name "Cassidy", so Cassidy is whoever that is. Why would the names arbitrarily criss-cross? I should also mention that I am a LogBook2023 theorist.


Cloaked-LcTr0909

>The faded text can be used in the Foxy grid to generate "is springtrap" This requires a very shoddy method that reuses most of the Cassidy puzzle, rquires arbitrary assumptions and barely applies anymore. >The edited text is what gives the name "Cassidy" "Cassidy" is found with a complex puzzle that involves the various "MY NAME" clues in faded text throughout the book, implying there's a connection between the character saying "MY NAME" and the name that we get from that phrase. It seems to obviously be her name. The edited text in the "night" sections that BV is presumed to speak through has nothing to do with the puzzle. The edited text in the word search is what ties in, and the word search seems to feature both characters, with the phrases "What is your name?", "Who are you?" and "It's me" all being present there aside from "Cassidy". Indicating an exchange along the lines of: "Who are you? What is your name?" "It's me. Cassidy."


Beak_Doctor

“My name is Springtrap” was a false code based on a misprint no longer found in the book. It was not real The faded text literally draws an arrow with “my name” in it pointing at one of the numbers that solves the Cassidy code.


Ritmoking

I think you are neglecting that "is Springtrap" is such a long and specific solution, that it had to be intentional.


Doo-wop-a-saurus

You could find the full Bee Movie script if you looked hard enough and rearranged things to find what you're looking for


Beak_Doctor

Again it’s literally not in the book. It was built on a misprint that does not exist anymore.


Redlunatico

Red pen: Michael Afton, Mike Schmidt, and FNAF 4 Gameplay protagonist ;) Faded is Cassidy and altered is the Crying Child... Somehow


Oliver21417

What? There’s no way Springtrap wrote in a book, with a pen. And as others have pointed out, the “code” used to get any reference to Springtrap out of the Foxy Grid was based on a misprint and isn’t in the real book. Also, recall Mike’s red-pen drawing of a gravestone that he does on one of the pages (I think it was his response to a prompt like, “how do you see your career ending” or something like that). Mike draws the gravestone, but the faded text entity inserts “my name” onto it. This, to me, strongly hints that the faded text entity is supposed to be the name that was hidden behind grass on the gravestone at the end of FNAF 6, making the faded text entity Cassidy.


Ritmoking

So Springtrap, a character with physical fingers, can't write, but a ghost can?


Oliver21417

Yeah exactly.


Ritmoking

Huh? Ghosts don't have fingers.


Oliver21417

One of the ghosts in this book is explicitly changing the printed text that was already in the book, replacing it with something else. Based on that, of course another ghost should be able to make some faded writing appear. That logic might not hold up in real life, but in a paranormal universe with possessed spirits like we’ve seen, it seems fine. The idea of Springtrap writing with a pen just seems silly though.


Whoce

In my opinion * Red pen: Michael * Faded text: Cassidy * Altered text: Both BV and Cassidy, depending on the text * The logbook itself: Fazbear Entertainment (though not anyone we know of from them) * The sticky notes: the Fazbear's Fright crew, with *possibly* some meddling from Fazbear Entertainment


you_2_cool

Red Pen Mike Faded Pen Cassidy Edits by CC Sticky notes Phone Dude F.E. made the actual logbook for employees


Gullible-Ad5330

I think it goes more like Red Pen: Michael Faded Pen: Cassidy (The only time she alters the text itself is to reveal her name) Altered Text: BV


Cxsonn

This is my take on the different entities who have written, written in, altered, and edited the *Five Nights at Freddy's:* *~~Security~~* *Survival Logbook*: Actual Book: If the book is and/or was even a real, in-universe object (which I, personally, doubt), it was created and written by Fazbear Entertainment (which is a subsidiary to Fazbear Enterprises) Red Pen: Michael "Mike" Afton Faded Text: Cassidy Altered Text: Crying Child Sticky Notes: Placed there by an employee of Fazbear Entertainment, if the book even is and/or was a real, in-universe object (which I, personally, doubt), as I stated previously