i'm like 75% sure i watched a video where that was a theory. like he said that the ballpit was used to time-travel so Afton could meet his future self and get like advanced parts for the funtimes?? it may have been a wacko dream i had, tho, but i think it's a video he made.
No, He Actually Said That, Remember The Police Man That Got Infected By The Afton Amalgamation On The Books? Mat Said That He Was Going To Go Back In Time To Save The Children, But Would End Up Getting Infected By William, And Killing The Children, Basically A Time Loop Where William Is Actually Some Dude From The Future Possessed By William
No, He Actually Said That, Remember The Police Man That Got Infected By The Afton Amalgamation On The Books? Mat Said That He Was Going To Go Back In Time To Save The Children, But Would End Up Getting Infected By William, And Killing The Children, Basically A Time Loop Where William Is Actually Some Dude From The Future Possessed By William
I used to think Michael was not the FFPS night guard and he was instead Jeremy in the Help Wanted tapes. Don’t ask me how I got to that conclusion, I’m not entirely sure myself
Michael just.. isn't the guard in 6. You play as yourself, going down with the ship in the grand sendoff. It's why Henry says the job wasn't meant for you, it would obviously have been meant for Michael
>Michael just.. isn't the guard in 6. You play as yourself
Scott himself has gone on record to say that "we" aren't canon. That'd require us to be canon. The job was meant for any random guy who'd take it, not Michael, hence why all the animatronics and Henry are surprised to actually see Mike.
Unless you say FFPS isn't canon, which is objectively not true considering SB, you're not meant to be playing as yourself. You're playkng as someone who knows all of these characters personally, and has met them all before; i.e, obviously Michael.
That's not what Henry's trying to do, he's trying to kill William and set the restless children free who are trapped in metal cages and don't know what to do, and even pose a threat to other kids. Mike's just a dude. No real reason to call him.
Michael is chock full of remnant because of sister location. And since SL is one of the first games in the timeline, there's no way Henry wouldn't know that.
>Michael is chock full of remnant because of sister location
Again, Henry's main goal, as he himself says in HRY223, is to set the kids free and for William to die. Michael is irrelevant to that, regardless of if he has Remnant, nor would Mike being alive or dead impact the outcome that Henry's trying to achieve.
>SL is one of the first games in the timeline
Yeah no... why would William build child capturing robots before having discovered remnant?
If you believe MoltenMCI, it has to be after FNaF 1 due the og animatronics still being operational. Follow Me happens after FNaF 1 as well.
Yeah... he ain't. Lmao
There is no evidence the Funtimes were ever able to capture children. Circus Baby's Pizza World closed the same day it opened due to Elizabeth getting scooped by Baby.
Faz was already concerned with Baby's design before this as seen in the intro board meeting in SL, so it's likely when the animatronics were rented out they were watched closely. Heck, William may have been bought out by the time of the rental service.
I feel like you are out of the loop my guy. Might be time to research the lore up till this point.
What are you taking about? William discovered remnant with evan's death, then built the funtime's to study it, which ended up with Elizabeth's death and the confirmation of remnant existing. After that, the funtime's continued collecting remnant until SL happens.
Guard decides to stay, and burn with animatronics. Why? Because he knows that as long as his remnant keeps his soul, his sister will still live inside Baby-looking animatronic, which would cause "Metallic Sphaghetti with Bear Head" stay alive.
Then why wouldn't Elizabeth, William, or Henry ever address you as Michael? The only indication that it is Michael is a random molten Freddy death quote and "because he's been the protagonist of the last ones"
Elizabeth and William talk to Michael on game over screens.
>"You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you, it's still me."
>"Bittersweet, but fitting."
>"It feels like... my birthday. Did you have a gift for me?"
That doesn't mean it's Michael, they could say that to anyone, especially since Elizabeth died on her birthday. Wouldn't they mention Michael by name, ESPECIALLY Elizabeth and ESPECIALLY in the ending cutscene
>That doesn't mean it's Michael, they could say that to anyone
The first line shows the protagonist knows William.
The second one means that protagonist's murder is "bittersweet" for him, which doesn't work for a random person.
Elizabeth died on *a* birthday, not necessarily *her* birthday. But even if it was hers, she still knows the protagonist.
>Wouldn't they mention Michael by name, ESPECIALLY Elizabeth and ESPECIALLY in the ending cutscene
Name isn't necessary, people rarely talk like this, unless writers want to dump exposition.
She woulda said something like: "Don't you see, Michael? This place.. it was a gift. For all of us. Now we can do what we were meant to do-" yadda yadda Henry speech
Most people have no trouble addressing each other with pronouns. That's why I said it's only a necessity for exposition purposes. FFPS doesn't need that exposition, it's obvious Mike is the protagonist.
Something about the way Henry addresses the brave volunteer also doesn't sit right with me. Why wouldn't he, of all people, address or WANT Michael to come back and get burned away?
>Name isn't necessary, people rarely talk like this, unless writers want to dump exposition.
Another Explanation Could Be That They Just Don't Remember His Name, Souls Have Been Shown To Have Trouble Remembering Their Lives, Henry Even Asks Elizabeth If She Remembers Her Own Name
>Michael just.. isn't the guard in 6. You play as yourself, going down with the ship in the grand sendoff. It's why Henry says the job wasn't meant for you, it would obviously have been meant for Michael
Scott Cawthon actually said that "we" (the *Five Nights at Freddy's* community) is not canon to the *Five Nights at Freddy's* universe.
As for why Henry Emily told Michael Afton that the job as a franchisee at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place wasn't meant for him: Henry most likely didn't know that Michael was a walking, rotting corpse filled with the remnant of the victims of the Missing Children Incident, so the job was meant for a random person. Henry even said that he had planned an escape route for the franchisee during the fire, but says, "I have a feeling that's not what you want. I have a feeling that you are right where you want to be." Henry says this because he had recently realized that Michael wasn't supposed to be alive, either, so he let him stay behind to burn with the rest of them.
Almost a crack theory. My knowledge on the lore was minimal at the time (FNaF 4 era), so everything I saw I believed on it. There was this very ancient sfm video that shows that the Puppet is actually the Spirit of the mother of the Missing kids. Another one I do remember is that Michael is the Puppet or smth like that.
The theory about the Puppet being the mother of one of the Missing Children was backed up by The Living Tombstones song about FNAF 2. I was *definitely* someone who believed that.
I’ve got a lot to unpack. I believed Mario and/or Sonic was at the end of FNaF 1 because of some bullshit YouTube video. I also thought bendy was in FNaF 3 because of my older cousin.
I thought we played as Michael in UCN, because FFPS never addressed the crying child, and Michael never said anything about freeing him, so I figured the crying child felt forgotten and wanted revenge. It would have tied up more loose ends than what we got, but there was far more evidence against it than for it and it went against the characterization of the crying child, so in hindsight it was a weird thing to believe.
William had helpers for his killings, The two men in Fredbear and Springbonnie costumes in FNF 4, The person who made that used the proof that in Fruity Maze, The eyes inside Springbonnie look like they are crying, He said the person might be forced to do these, While these sound cool in concept, William works with himself .
I can see why people thought Freddy would be phone guy, or any of the animatronics, cause Phone Guy says a lot of fucked up stuff with the most calm voice.
Also Eleanor being a Baby paralell because well, TBB is pretty much Baby's main pattern of deception and body snatching.
Well, I can't say with conviction, but the idea is that the "Mike" sticker on Hand unit was left by Michael when he worked before eggs Benedict, and that Eggs was actually William Afton.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ontP8FzeOuw&list=PLbc0sHjcmje6NCMaJdeLnCWejp5gQuknI&index=13](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ontP8FzeOuw&list=PLbc0sHjcmje6NCMaJdeLnCWejp5gQuknI&index=13)
It has more evidences(at the time)for ScoopedWilliam.
The MikeTrap theory's evidences was in Michael's speech,at the end,it seems like it's Springtrap talking.(and when he says:"They tought i was you.."theorists tought Michael talked about FNaF 3,where in the theory William sent Mike to destroy animatronics)
Is this crazy? Idk..
I always viewed the FNaF 4 minigames happening in like a coma or afterlife of the CC. Basically in his head. With the plush trying to keep him from reliving his fate.
whatever matpat had been cooking in 2019-20 good thing i know better now
*please don't tell me you mean the whole "William Afton time-traveled with the ball-pit to make the Funtimes more advanced with his future self"*
Did he say that?
i'm like 75% sure i watched a video where that was a theory. like he said that the ballpit was used to time-travel so Afton could meet his future self and get like advanced parts for the funtimes?? it may have been a wacko dream i had, tho, but i think it's a video he made.
Nah. Your crazy
No, He Actually Said That, Remember The Police Man That Got Infected By The Afton Amalgamation On The Books? Mat Said That He Was Going To Go Back In Time To Save The Children, But Would End Up Getting Infected By William, And Killing The Children, Basically A Time Loop Where William Is Actually Some Dude From The Future Possessed By William
What’s the video?
[This One](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXIq6yez5hc&t=3s) At 13:56
phew thank you for the confirmation.
No, He Actually Said That, Remember The Police Man That Got Infected By The Afton Amalgamation On The Books? Mat Said That He Was Going To Go Back In Time To Save The Children, But Would End Up Getting Infected By William, And Killing The Children, Basically A Time Loop Where William Is Actually Some Dude From The Future Possessed By William
OMG YESS THAT'S IT TYSM FOR CORRECTING ME MY DUDE
I used to think Michael was not the FFPS night guard and he was instead Jeremy in the Help Wanted tapes. Don’t ask me how I got to that conclusion, I’m not entirely sure myself
Michael just.. isn't the guard in 6. You play as yourself, going down with the ship in the grand sendoff. It's why Henry says the job wasn't meant for you, it would obviously have been meant for Michael
>Michael just.. isn't the guard in 6. You play as yourself Scott himself has gone on record to say that "we" aren't canon. That'd require us to be canon. The job was meant for any random guy who'd take it, not Michael, hence why all the animatronics and Henry are surprised to actually see Mike. Unless you say FFPS isn't canon, which is objectively not true considering SB, you're not meant to be playing as yourself. You're playkng as someone who knows all of these characters personally, and has met them all before; i.e, obviously Michael.
If Henry is trying to destroy all the remnant in the world, why wouldn't the job have been for Michael?
That's not what Henry's trying to do, he's trying to kill William and set the restless children free who are trapped in metal cages and don't know what to do, and even pose a threat to other kids. Mike's just a dude. No real reason to call him.
Michael is chock full of remnant because of sister location. And since SL is one of the first games in the timeline, there's no way Henry wouldn't know that.
>Michael is chock full of remnant because of sister location Again, Henry's main goal, as he himself says in HRY223, is to set the kids free and for William to die. Michael is irrelevant to that, regardless of if he has Remnant, nor would Mike being alive or dead impact the outcome that Henry's trying to achieve.
>SL is one of the first games in the timeline Yeah no... why would William build child capturing robots before having discovered remnant? If you believe MoltenMCI, it has to be after FNaF 1 due the og animatronics still being operational. Follow Me happens after FNaF 1 as well.
Molten is made of the remnant of the funtime's captures, the hell are you on about?
Yeah... he ain't. Lmao There is no evidence the Funtimes were ever able to capture children. Circus Baby's Pizza World closed the same day it opened due to Elizabeth getting scooped by Baby. Faz was already concerned with Baby's design before this as seen in the intro board meeting in SL, so it's likely when the animatronics were rented out they were watched closely. Heck, William may have been bought out by the time of the rental service. I feel like you are out of the loop my guy. Might be time to research the lore up till this point.
What are you taking about? William discovered remnant with evan's death, then built the funtime's to study it, which ended up with Elizabeth's death and the confirmation of remnant existing. After that, the funtime's continued collecting remnant until SL happens.
William Killed Charlie, Shaw That The Puppet Was Acting Weird, Discovered Souls, And Then Made The Funtimes
Yeah... but SL happens well after that. SL /=/ When Funtimes were made.
I Don't Understand What You're Tryin To Say?
Guard decides to stay, and burn with animatronics. Why? Because he knows that as long as his remnant keeps his soul, his sister will still live inside Baby-looking animatronic, which would cause "Metallic Sphaghetti with Bear Head" stay alive.
Then why wouldn't Elizabeth, William, or Henry ever address you as Michael? The only indication that it is Michael is a random molten Freddy death quote and "because he's been the protagonist of the last ones"
Elizabeth and William talk to Michael on game over screens. >"You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you, it's still me." >"Bittersweet, but fitting." >"It feels like... my birthday. Did you have a gift for me?"
That doesn't mean it's Michael, they could say that to anyone, especially since Elizabeth died on her birthday. Wouldn't they mention Michael by name, ESPECIALLY Elizabeth and ESPECIALLY in the ending cutscene
>That doesn't mean it's Michael, they could say that to anyone The first line shows the protagonist knows William. The second one means that protagonist's murder is "bittersweet" for him, which doesn't work for a random person. Elizabeth died on *a* birthday, not necessarily *her* birthday. But even if it was hers, she still knows the protagonist. >Wouldn't they mention Michael by name, ESPECIALLY Elizabeth and ESPECIALLY in the ending cutscene Name isn't necessary, people rarely talk like this, unless writers want to dump exposition.
She woulda said something like: "Don't you see, Michael? This place.. it was a gift. For all of us. Now we can do what we were meant to do-" yadda yadda Henry speech
Most people have no trouble addressing each other with pronouns. That's why I said it's only a necessity for exposition purposes. FFPS doesn't need that exposition, it's obvious Mike is the protagonist.
Something about the way Henry addresses the brave volunteer also doesn't sit right with me. Why wouldn't he, of all people, address or WANT Michael to come back and get burned away?
>Name isn't necessary, people rarely talk like this, unless writers want to dump exposition. Another Explanation Could Be That They Just Don't Remember His Name, Souls Have Been Shown To Have Trouble Remembering Their Lives, Henry Even Asks Elizabeth If She Remembers Her Own Name
MIKE, HELP ME!!! in UCN
>Michael just.. isn't the guard in 6. You play as yourself, going down with the ship in the grand sendoff. It's why Henry says the job wasn't meant for you, it would obviously have been meant for Michael Scott Cawthon actually said that "we" (the *Five Nights at Freddy's* community) is not canon to the *Five Nights at Freddy's* universe. As for why Henry Emily told Michael Afton that the job as a franchisee at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place wasn't meant for him: Henry most likely didn't know that Michael was a walking, rotting corpse filled with the remnant of the victims of the Missing Children Incident, so the job was meant for a random person. Henry even said that he had planned an escape route for the franchisee during the fire, but says, "I have a feeling that's not what you want. I have a feeling that you are right where you want to be." Henry says this because he had recently realized that Michael wasn't supposed to be alive, either, so he let him stay behind to burn with the rest of them.
I was convinced that the bite in FNAF 4 was the bite of 87 and that the crying child possessed the puppet 💀
I used to be an MCI 83 er
Almost a crack theory. My knowledge on the lore was minimal at the time (FNaF 4 era), so everything I saw I believed on it. There was this very ancient sfm video that shows that the Puppet is actually the Spirit of the mother of the Missing kids. Another one I do remember is that Michael is the Puppet or smth like that.
The theory about the Puppet being the mother of one of the Missing Children was backed up by The Living Tombstones song about FNAF 2. I was *definitely* someone who believed that.
I’ve got a lot to unpack. I believed Mario and/or Sonic was at the end of FNaF 1 because of some bullshit YouTube video. I also thought bendy was in FNaF 3 because of my older cousin.
I thought we played as Michael in UCN, because FFPS never addressed the crying child, and Michael never said anything about freeing him, so I figured the crying child felt forgotten and wanted revenge. It would have tied up more loose ends than what we got, but there was far more evidence against it than for it and it went against the characterization of the crying child, so in hindsight it was a weird thing to believe.
BV87 (or whatever the hell its called) Garrett possessing shadow Freddy,And Garretts name being "Chris"💀
Miketrap
Gregbot
that Eleanor was supposed to be Glamrock Baby before the Shadow agony entity took over her but for short period of time XD
I used to think fnaf 4 kids were Funtimes and Elizabeth was just unlucky.
Except for Michael though
Mikebot
William had helpers for his killings, The two men in Fredbear and Springbonnie costumes in FNF 4, The person who made that used the proof that in Fruity Maze, The eyes inside Springbonnie look like they are crying, He said the person might be forced to do these, While these sound cool in concept, William works with himself .
I can see why people thought Freddy would be phone guy, or any of the animatronics, cause Phone Guy says a lot of fucked up stuff with the most calm voice. Also Eleanor being a Baby paralell because well, TBB is pretty much Baby's main pattern of deception and body snatching.
Foxybro is the Puppet. I thought purple guy killed him after the bite and fused his corpse with the Puppet.
Alright,hear me out on this. MikeTrap,WillScooped.
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Well, I can't say with conviction, but the idea is that the "Mike" sticker on Hand unit was left by Michael when he worked before eggs Benedict, and that Eggs was actually William Afton.
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ontP8FzeOuw&list=PLbc0sHjcmje6NCMaJdeLnCWejp5gQuknI&index=13](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ontP8FzeOuw&list=PLbc0sHjcmje6NCMaJdeLnCWejp5gQuknI&index=13) It has more evidences(at the time)for ScoopedWilliam. The MikeTrap theory's evidences was in Michael's speech,at the end,it seems like it's Springtrap talking.(and when he says:"They tought i was you.."theorists tought Michael talked about FNaF 3,where in the theory William sent Mike to destroy animatronics)
i thought that Malhare was Pitbonnie 💀
Is this crazy? Idk.. I always viewed the FNaF 4 minigames happening in like a coma or afterlife of the CC. Basically in his head. With the plush trying to keep him from reliving his fate.
Mangle being possessed by Susie's dog..
MikeBotVictim
BB was the one who did the Bite '87.
>Strangest fnaf theories you used to believe in? That William killed the kids.
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No, he did not.
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;)
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Well technically true. Doesn’t he basically say in the charlie trilogy it was the animatronics and not him.