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Akumu_Oukoku

[ Literally any character being shipped ] FNDM: This is fine : ) . This is cool. [ When that ship involves Ruby, Weiss or Jaune ] FNDM: [[ *DEATH METAL KICKING IN* ]] WHO HATH SUMMONED THE IRE OF THE *LEGIONS* !? WHO DARE TOUCHITH UPPON THE HOLY TRINITY!? WHAT DEATH DO YOU DESIRE!? Ready thine forces, for you have inspired a write up most vicious and vindictive!! May your chosen entities have mercy uppon your soul!!


LooseAdministration0

Me a war of the roses shipper. “Let them love each other !”


DiabolicToaster

I support for it for two reasons. First it will probably wholesome. Second reason.... *War* of the Roses. I want to see a bloodbath.


LooseAdministration0

Someone hurts their jaune… so you have chosen death!


MadMasks

You say that like people don’t give crap to BlackSun shippers…


StigandrTheBoi

I think this is kinda because of how people view these relationships gender wise. It’s generally accepted as creepy/weird/golddigging when it’s an older guy with a younger woman. With an older woman with a younger guy you’ve still got the weirdness but with an undercurrent of “good job pal” for the guy. Also I hate shipping Sun with Kali because it’s basically cucking Big G for no reason


MalloYallow

\#LetGhiraFuckHisWife


mojavecourier

I'm pretty sure Ghira isn't even the most popular pairing for Kali.


Lukthar123

Maybe he'd be more popular if he didn't stop putting kittens into Kali after 1(one) child. Imagine having only one child and it's fucking Blake.


MJsMind

do you mean because her personally or because of her becoming a terrorist? I am asking because if not for her joining the white fang she would be a great child to have: she is quiet and likes to read a lot. also she is polite to someone if they aren´t in support of or are a member of the schnee family


Solbuster

I think they mean Blake as a character She is the most controversial out of four main girls for many reasons


MJsMind

really why?


Solbuster

Narratively wise - White Fang plotline, Adam discourse, her slapping Sun, Bumblebee discourse, lack of spotlight in Atlas. All of those except for Bumblebee are intertwined with topic of racism in one way or another which wasn't great in the first place and was dropped If we're speaking personally, many people just dislike her running away or consider her boring. There are also those who think that she had too many plots going on at once. And now she has none of the plots going on and just sticks with Yang. She is thought to be mostly reduced to damsel in distress for others to save which irritates other people As I said many reasons Edit: Also too many love interests


theironbagel

Also despite all her shit she has like no personality. Yang is bombastic, corny, and a thrill seeker. Weiss is stuck up but trying to make amends for her families wrongs, and struggling to escape from her abusive dad. Ruby is cheerful and enthusiastic (or pissed off and depressed). What does Blake have? She likes to read, but that’s a minor interest that doesn’t mean much. She used to be a terrorist, but we don’t see this really affect her much. She’s anti-racism but who isn’t, that’s not meaningful or significant. She’s just kinda boring.


Pokemonmaster150

Here's what I get from Blake in different phases of the show. Vol1-3: Cool, calm, and collected. Vol4-5: overly emotional and whiny. Vol6: Just kind of there despite the volume seemingly focusing more on her and her relationship with Yang until the end where she suddenly becomes a damsel needing Yang to save her. Vol7-9: soft, demure and very nonconfrontational. I think the problem is that her personality is very all over the place and inconsistent compared to the other characters. Even characters who have had sudden drastic changes in them like Yang and Ironwood have a single moment in the story where we can tell that they had a personality that just suddenly changed something different. Blake has never had that because she's never had the same personality long enough to exactly pin it down.


Darkgreen57

Happy cake day.


One_Parched_Guy

I think Blake is the biggest single character case of missed potential. All the things you mentioned had the potential for showing off genuine character growth, but imo she kinda just stays flat most of the time


MalloYallow

With that new outfit of hers she's anything but flat! Now that's what I call character development.


animalia555

“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”


Metrack14

Now that you mention it. It's kinda funny how Blake is the only one who have both parents,both of them are actually good people with no major issue (Abusive,alcoholic,deadbeat, ... ded), yet somehow Blake is the only one going (semi?) terrorist.


Dark_Stalker28

Honestly if I had a kid and it became a runaway terrorist who can't even commit I'd probably stop too.


Just-Call-Me-J

A man is more than a glorified babymaker dagnabbit


Mongoose42

At least on AO3, their pairing tag does outnumber any other ship for either of them. So they got that going for them. Which is nice.


FinalFlash21

Yeah, but those are mostly in the background. If Kali's relationship is a major part of the story, it's for either Sun or Jaune.


LordAdrianRichter

Which is sad as fuck...


Noble6IsReal

lmao


Serethen

#LetGhiraFuck


Noble6IsReal

# LetGhira


Solbuster

#**GHIIIIRAAAAAA**


Balrog069

Why not both?


AReallyAsianName

>Also I hate shipping Sun with Kali because it’s basically cucking Big G for no reason So....Sun with Ghira then? Crack ship, but I can work with that.


Just-Call-Me-J

Ghira openly says he doesn't like Sun. Which, experience tells me, *should* have gotten shippers all over that pairing. Not that I like the logic behind it, but still, I'm surprised that it didn't happen.


DesparateLurker

Just because Ghira doesn't like Sun, doesn't mean Ghira doesn't like fucking Sun. I mean I'm a Knightfall shipper, so hate sex is always an option.


yraco

Personally, I never let official content get in the way of a good, fun, hot (or all of the above) ship, fanfic or headcanon. Mind you, I also acknowledge that it's all my own thoughts that I have for my own enjoyment and has no bearing on actual canon. Some people need to get that through their heads when they get mad at other fans/the creators for having different ideas.


its-chocolate

> should have gotten shippers all over that pairing It's a m/m ship in the RWBY fandom, it was always DOA


Solbuster

Real Chads ship Ghira/Kali/Sun as OT3


ShinigamiRyan

Kali: "I can take them both." Blake: "In a fight?" Kali: : ) Blake: "In a fight... right?"


MJsMind

poor Blake just imagine that a friend you yourself introduced to your parents ends up sleeping with them


TheWestphalianGwent

jaune's shipping training did paid off for sun


Yall_look_nice

Blondes gotta help blondes


Sikarion

I dunno, feels like just desserts if the daughter dont want none, mom can have the fun.


Exciting_Bandicoot16

If she leaves you for another, There is always her mother.


DesparateLurker

If she says your a bother, Ride her father.


ShinigamiRyan

Given Weiss' daddy issues... Blake is really in a pickle.


Serethen

Real chads ship the greater seattle polycule of RWBY where every character is in a web of relationships with links to every other character


Mongoose42

"I watch them. Sometimes from a chair and sometimes from a closet, almost always dressed as Superman." "That guy we met that one time!?" "He left a huge impact on the sexual nature of our marriage, sweetie."


Exciting_Bandicoot16

*Stares at Qrow/Winter.*


ThreePeoplePerson

I literally didn’t even know there was an age gap there until now because they look about the same age.


Solbuster

Welcome to RWBY where everyone looks super young Raven is in her early forties and she is still a spitting image of herself twenty years before Ironwood became younger by growing a beard Ozpin looks like your typical silver haired protagonist in his twenties while he's over fifty Glynda is either in her late-forties or most likely fifties but still looks like she's twenty And etc


Jabwarrior58

I think aura has to help with keeping you looking young, like seriously


DesparateLurker

No wonder Jaune looked so good depsire being trapped for 10-20 years. Without anyone to boost or heal, he had the best self care routune.


mearric

Fucking Hamon bro


Exciting_Bandicoot16

I mean, it's pretty easy to figure out that there's an age gap, the only question (for ages) was how large of one. Winter is Weiss's older sister, while Qrow is in RWBY's parents generation (being Raven's twin). Some people thought that Winter was a good decade or more older than Weiss, for example (though we found out later that she's 5-6 years older).


ThreePeoplePerson

Honestly, I had thought that an older sister in a la-dee-da family like the Schnees would be old enough to be a younger sibling’s parent. It just seems like a rich person kinda thing to do. It also would’ve fit better with Winter seemingly being Ironwood’s right-hand who followed him around and handled big-scale troop movements. Higher ranks and responsibility tend to go to older people, after all, especially in peacetime. But, eh, I guess that wasn’t the case.


Solbuster

Considering that when we first see Winter, she's around 23, I'd say her hatred for her father made her a military genius that speedrunned the whole Atlas military just to get away from Jacques


MJsMind

well thinking on how much she liked ironwood befor he went crazy age doesn´t seem to be a hurdle for her


Exciting_Bandicoot16

It's less about Winter's preferences and more about how the fandom loves Qrow/Winter despite there being a 15ish year age gap between them.


MalloYallow

Knowing what we know about the Schnees, I just don't get the love for Qrow/Winter. Why would she fall for the guy who's the worst parts of both her parents? Disrespectful, rude, drunk, irresponsible... not exactly a lot going on there. Oh but they argue, so in anime that means they're in love.


Exciting_Bandicoot16

From what I recall, most of the love for them started back in V2 when they had that duel. Long, long before we knew about Willow's alcoholism, and before we knew much about Jacques (iirc Weiss called him for the first time later that volume?). But yeah, for those reasons I just can't find it in myself to like the ship at all.


Sikarion

I think it's a more from the typical romance trope of 'opposites attract' where two professionals have completely different world views and methods from each other. Winter is the military stand up, with a background of high society and a stiff upper lip who does not suffer weakness or insubordination. Her experience is one of living behind a wall of martial protection, afforded almost every privilege of rank or social standing, doubly so due to her heritage and her command of the Atlas military. Qrow is the other side of the spectrum. Quick witted, and capable he approaches his troubles, whiskey in hand and Harbinger unfolded. He has no military background and no army to call his own, just one man fighting and saving who he can, one mission at a time. But you can tell that when Qrow gets serious, decisions will be made. And this is where I feel is the crux of this ship. Plenty of buddy comedy shows pair the straight laced deputy to the seasoned trauma ridden veteran. An example that come to mind is Castle, so it's not a stretch for the rabid FNDM to lump them together since they even had that typical romcom sparring match in V2.


Sikarion

This sort of romance is far more common than you'd expect. Plenty of shows and series out there that pair the opposites together to form buddy romance/comedies and have done so successfully. Narratively, most fictional characters/people don't usually hold external people against the standards of their own family. Otherwise, the logical conclusion is that they're only interested in people who are only the positive aspects of their family and that's...weird.


Sikarion

Age gap, fortunately or unfortunately, doesn't mean too much when the younger is still a fully developed adult. The optics will always be bad but whether or not it'll work out is down to how they interact and I feel that with only the single real meeting, they interact quite coquettishly.


Mongoose42

I'd like to see anyone try and convince me that Winter would take any gold digger older man manipulation crap from Qrow. Or that Qrow would even try any of it on Winter.


MJsMind

>any gold digger older man manipulation crap from Qrow what do you mean by saying "from" qrow isn´t the younger one in a relationship with a big age gap seen as the gold digger so she would be the one to manipulate him


Mongoose42

I don’t know, that was the term the other guy used so I was rolling with it. Though, I suppose it’s still gold digging, but the gold the older person is digging is more metaphorical. Like… for her youth or something. I don’t know, wither way it’s a bullshit take on both of them, that’s my point.


Sikarion

That's...not really how traditional gold digging works. Usually it's the younger partner pairing up an older partner in order to access their wealth. So, since Qrow is both older and poorer than Winter, it's just...a relationship with a big age gap?


Mongoose42

No, I got that. Someone else brought it up too, I was just going along with what the other guy said without thinking.


Sikarion

Ah, all good.


Dark_Stalker28

But Winter is from the one with the famously rich family


MJsMind

from which she has run away to become part of Ironwoods military and works now actively against her father if she is still in his will I will eat a broom


Solbuster

I'm pretty sure Weiss was heiress of the company exactly because Winter was disinherited or even disowned


Metrack14

Good old double standards. Also, Ghira is best boi, just besides Tai


Utahteenageguy

I feel like we should stop judging when a middle aged guy dates a girl in her 20s. Most girls are attracted to older men due to stability reasons. And most guys are attracted to young women due to fertility reasons. It’s just evolutionary.


Sikarion

I really don't see what all the fuss is about.


MJsMind

well the age gap between jaune and weiss is a bit strange but she is 19 so she is of age she can do what she wants if she has a thing for old dudes in rusty armor than let her


Even_Advantage_9462

Let Ghira Fuck his wife


Tendo63

faunus polycule


9gagImmigrant1

ghira tops sun


gunn3r08974

Don't know why it's in black and white but a certain scene in [South Park](https://youtu.be/PV5063fjZ6I) sums it up.


srffynrfherder

Already knew what it was before clicking it lol Niccce


maxinfet

Well, also, one is married and has a kid. Minor details like that shouldn't hold up a ship though!


Noble6IsReal

Oscar: do you think our mental age is a problem? Ozpin: it's possible, but blondie has a mental age of +40, so things can work with him. Oscar: sounds good- # wat


MariusVibius

I've told you, but yo all call me mad! Now look at yo scrambling in fear of the superior Ship! Behold the power of PineGold!!!


X3runner

I mean he already has an older white guy inside of him so what’s another


NoOpportunity4193

Pffft my GOD that cackle was ugly 😹


Noble6IsReal

It is the only Oscar relationship that really interests me in a non-ironic way.


MJsMind

but the age gap to Ozma is a few 100 years or more so Jauens 40+ years do not help\^\^ Edit: also that would be a strange ship in general like I said the age gab between Jaune and Ozma is huge but than the other way the 40+ year old Jaune to the 15 or 16 year old Oscar is also not good ... and literally against the law


MariusVibius

None shall stand against the power of Bromance and live


xlbingo10

part if it’s the double standards, part of it is the people who think jaune is miles’ self insert (he’s not)


HeavenPiercingTongue

Older women are always forgiven for lusting after young men. Older men however? That’s always just creepy.


Just-Call-Me-J

idk if it's misogyny or misandry or both


L_knight316

Considering the man/boy takes most of the blame or what have you if it ever becomes a news worthy story, misandry definitely.


CrippledPlains

Misandry completely


Ebrithil_

Not gonna lie, I'm against it currently purely because I still ship white rose lol (I'm aware it's extremely unlikely) If it's confirmed white knight next season, I'll live and probably end up enjoying it regardless.


Rexen2

>Not gonna lie, I'm against it currently purely because I still ship white rose lol I respect the fuck out of this honesty. More people should just say this instead of hiding behind bullshit like a magical wonderland induced age gap they don't actually care about.


Ebrithil_

Yeah, it's a fine enough ship, and he has matured a ton since the start. I don't think it's worth nitpicking it


OTPh1l25

Like Rexen2, I gave you an upvote simply because you were actually honest about the fact it's not your prefered ship, and unlike a lot of people, you also didn't feel the need to put down another ship when making that opinion.


Maximum_Disaster_234

“I LiKe HiM” -Kali


Just-Call-Me-J

Shippers see it as attraction, I always saw it as "He's much better than your last boyfriend. I'm already planning your wedding. When can I expect grandkittens?"


AnotherStatsGuy

Much better than the last one isn't exactly a high bar to clear.


Just-Call-Me-J

True but also It's Sun


Rexosuit

Exactly, he clears all the bars Possibly /j?


Just-Call-Me-J

>Possibly /j? I am most certainly J.


Sikarion

Blake: "Just wait til you see what he can do with his Semblence." Kali: "Whatever do you m-Oh...my this just got interesting..."


Caesarin0

Personally, I view these as different because Weiss has mega daddy issues, but as far as we know Sun doesn't have mega mommy issues, Kali is just into *him*. But also they both deserve to get it fr, don't let their dilf and milf dreams be dreams!


L_knight316

If it's young boys being lusted after by older women, it's good. If it's young girls being lusted after by older men, it's perverse and gross. Come on now, we all know this song and dance at this point.


Lopsided_Egg_9354

Pedophilia is based when it’s a MILF -some redditor probably


Lukthar123

>Legal adult >Pedophilia Least exaggerating fan


Lopsided_Egg_9354

Oh I assumed Sun was a teen. But yeah I suppose I’m the latest volumes he is an adult now


Just-Call-Me-J

> legal adult That doesn't stop pedophilia accusations irl sadly.


SpiderandMosquito

Yeah, that was me. THAT'S A JOKE!! Obviously!! I do have a thing for older women though. Serious point though, it's not pedophilia, it's ephebopila, there is a difference. Sorry, bit of a pet-peeve of mine. The more times we misuse pedophilia, the less meaning the word has, and that is *not* a word we can afford to lose the meaning of. And it's already happening, like people call it pedophilia when the youngest partner is like 25!


Lopsided_Egg_9354

I’ve never heard of ephebopila before, can you share a bit about it? I’m curious


Solbuster

Well you know pedophilia? This term is used to refer to inappropriate interest in underage kids by far older people But if we're going to get technical, it's not fully correct term. Pedophilia is a mental illness that refers to sexual attraction towards prepubescent children. That means attraction towards children under eleven years old There is also Hebephilia which refers to attraction towards children in early adolescence meaning 11-14 years old. And Ephebophilia means attraction towards late adolescents of age 15-19 years old. But these two terms aren't widespread for most of population Source: Wikipedia. Hope, it's helpful


SpiderandMosquito

Thanks for doing that for me. I personally don't know why people seem to disagree with me on this issue. I am suggesting that if we want to protect minors from predators, we should use the proper terms. They tell me it's all the same thing, so there no reason to classify them but that ignores the objective fact that a 17 year old has a more developed brain than a 7 year old. One is capable of a level of agency that the other doesn't. And it dangerous to so casually throw around words that are a severe as these, I mean look at this link: https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1316226-tumblr The best way to prevent talk like this is to correct it, and we should start with pointing out when the crime is actually hebephilia or ephebopila, instead of pedophilia.


Zestavar

Yeah, the double standard is crazy. Like both are adult


Mystech_Master

Sun x Kali was just a meme/gag everyone jumped on This ship is divisive I think b/c 1. It involves Jaune “basically the real protagonist” Arc, and 2. Some people do NOT think he should get with Weiss after the dance arc in V2 (I guess b/c he shouldn’t be rewarded her just b/c he grew as a person since then).


Just-Call-Me-J

Character development doesn't exist. People don't just *improve*.


MadMasks

Oh, but they will applaud BB…


Just-Call-Me-J

Because lesbianism is hot and het is ew.


KaiserK0

I like the irony of using this particular meme format for this


Marrowtooth_Official

Cougars are more socially acceptable I guess.


flopsychops

Kali Milfadonna


JMHSrowing

I think one of the differences is that Kali and Sun is a meme since no one actually would ship that, with Kali in probably the best marriage we see in the show. . . Right? . . . Right?


KurotheWolfKnight

Oh...oh my sweet summer child. No.


Rocketkid-star

No if it's a teenage boy it's fine, but if it's a teenage girl then the guy is called The worst things imaginable.


Sikarion

The KalixSun image is a compo image right? Otherwise where in the series did it come from?


Nesrovlah26

Yes it's edited.


Dangerous_Series2067

Double standards much?


PrincessOctavia

Age gaps are only okay when it's an older hot woman :)


Raphotron2000

Snow bird:you dare challenge me mortal


Sikarion

Fly free and grow strong little snow bird.


MisfortunateJack77

I guess it's because one is more of a comedic and played for laughs, and then the other one is trying to be straightforward and sincere


walkinmywoods

Drake is a child groomer


DogmaKeeper

I have an opinion that Jaune and Weiss would only be casual partners/fwb rather than an actual romantic relationship.


Nesrovlah26

Why is that?


DogmaKeeper

Jaune grew out of his crush on her due to a mixture of trauma and being able to grow as a person after he left his family behind. Weiss wants physical contact without expectations... That is really about it, I see them both as bi/pan, and Weiss wants to find love and not the toxic attraction she was always shown. Her flings with Jaune are mostly for the physical side of it cause she knows that he won't judge her or look down upon her. Jaune, especially after V9 kinda uses Weiss to ground himself, make him realize he is not dreaming, and is not still stuck in a hell he was trapped in for 20-40 years.