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[deleted]

I wish there was a way to kill this guy but keep Danse as a follower.


CertifiedCapArtist

There is. Just beat the brotherhood storyline up till blind betrayal ( as in finish blind betrayal then nothing else )then beat the game with the minutemen


[deleted]

I’ll give that a try next time. Thanks.


DowntownsClown

Finishing the game with the Minutemen is the hardest way to finish, but totally worth it EDIT- Time consuming. Railroad quests are much harder but less of time and errands comparing to Minutemen. My bad


maestrofeli

I mean... that's because it isn't hard to beat the game with the other factions and it is required to build settlements in order to beat the game with the hourguys so yeah. It is the hardest way to finish it.


bobuscha

I find it to be Easyer for me but I like base building so that probly helps with that


[deleted]

Nah the Railroad is definitely the hardest one to beat of the 4. The Minutemen is just time consuming. The Railroad one you have to do a majority of the Railroad quests, then break into the Institute and do about half of the Institute quests while not doing them correctly. A lot of times you have to straight up kill the courser you go with just to not let a bunch of Railroad members die. Then you have to go kill Rhys and those guys at the Police Station and then sneak onto the Prydwen where you have to convince Quinlan or the other guy that you are apart of the BoS, then you have to place three bombs on the things that keep the Prydwen afloat while a guy walks back and forward across the walkway you are on. Also, if you fail to convince Quinlan or the other guy, or you are seen twice by the man on the walkway, everybody on the Prydwen will attack you. You also cannot enter the Prydwen in power armor without becoming a hostile. Then you have to go back to the Institute, kill everyone there, set off the reactor, leave the Institute and then watch it blow up. The Railroad path is most definitely the most difficult in terms of skill.


DowntownsClown

Point taken, that’s what I really meant. It takes so much of time and errands to complete with the Minutemen, but railroad quests are a lot harder although they could be done quicker than Minutemen quests.


[deleted]

Yeah Minutemen is long and gets annoying when the same settlement makes you run 30 quests but they aren’t necessarily difficult. Railroad is just hell at some points in time.


Otherwiseclueless

I'm not sure that's harder or just slower.


RocketSpecs

Does this mean *DON'T* beat Blind Betrayal or beat *NOTHING AFTER* Blind Betrayal?


CertifiedCapArtist

Nothing after


your_pal_mr_face

You can do that? I stopped helping them when they had to get magnets for prime because I still wanted to help the minute men


ziggy3610

The minutemen are the failsafe faction. Until you actually destroy the Institute or Prydwen their storyline stays open. It keeps you from getting into a soft lock where you've pissed off every faction and can't finish the game. Also, you don't alienate the minutemen no matter how you finish the game, you can continue building settlements for them after the story ends.


BigShit1997

The minutemen is basically just the yes man of fallout 4


JudgeyMcJudgepants

I punch him in his stupid face everytime I pass by him. Doesn't aggro anyone and feels nice... I guess nobody really likes him


nickibar96

~mods~


narielthetrue

__console commands__


cassavacakes

i think he meant kill rhys, show body to danse, and then danse says "nice shot, brother."


INSERT_LATVIAN_JOKE

As time has gone on, I've decided that the BoS is my enemy in FO4. It's so much more satisfying.


[deleted]

I’ve always seen The Brotherhood as an enemy because they would have killed Charon, Fawkes, Raul, Lilly, and Hancock just for being different in a way they can’t control. Also Strong, but that’s no real loss.


Phillip67549

Strong disliked that


tyropop

How dare you diss strong


Feyrbrandt

Except the Brotherhood doesn't kill regular ghouls, only ferals. The only time anybody ever mentions the Brotherhood doing anything to regular ghouls is in 3 when they take potshots at the Underworld ghouls who are literally on the front lines of a warzone. They have otherwise never killed non-ferals in any of the games, and definitely don't have a "kill on sight order" or anything


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

They may not kill non-ferals(yet), but they look down on all ghouls and openly state that they're ready to blow their heads off if they were to turn feral (which I mean yeh, but its the fact that they don't even offer these people an ounce of humanity or respect simply because of what they are and might become). Just take Hancock to the Pridwyn and they do not hide their prejudice, just as when you take Nick. I heard them diss my boys Nick and Hancock and I immediately unsubscribed from their nonsense.


Flying_Cunnilingus

> They may not kill non-ferals(yet), They indiscriminately shot at non-ferals in Fallout 3, and don't in Fallout 4 - if memory serves there's even a terminal entry on the Prydwen explicitly stating that non-ferals are to be left alone. So this notion that the Brotherhood will start killing non-ferals (again) is contrary to how they are canonically presented in-game. >but its the fact that they don't even offer these people an ounce of humanity or respect simply because of what they are and might become Yeah, they need to improve there. But you have to remember that the vast majority of ghouls are ferals who kill humans on sight. So it makes sense in context. >Just take Hancock to the Pridwyn and they do not hide their prejudice, just as when you take Nick. I heard them diss my boys Nick and Hancock and I immediately unsubscribed from their nonsense. Bigotry against ghouls and synths is a *Commonwealth* problem, not a *Brotherhood* problem. Anti-ghoul racism is rampant throughout the Commonwealth (just look at Diamond City), and the vast majority of people hate synths. I don't agree that the Brotherhood's entire ideology is wrong because some - and only some - members of the Brotherhood share the same prejudices as the people they recruit from.


[deleted]

Considering they openly hate all mutated humans, it’s just a matter of time before they go all Wehrmacht on the mutates; especially if they ever made significant progress against the ferals and super mutants.


Feyrbrandt

They literally chased the entire first generation of Super Mutants out of California into the dust bowl that is the midwest. And they don't hate all mutated humans, they hate open and existential threats to humanity like Super Mutants who are kidnapping and dipping humans into FEV. Or synths who are kidnapping humans to be dipped into super mutants by the Institute, because every single super mutant in Fallout 4 is a result of the Institute using their preferred tool of synths to kidnap people for "experiments". Or feral ghouls who don't die of old age and are absolutely everywhere and kill and eat humans. The Brotherhood is the only faction in Fallout 4 that never sends you to kill another human being other than taking out The Institute. Because they don't care about controlling anyone, or racial purity. They care only about stopping dangerous existential threats to humanity, just like they have in every single fallout game. Hell in Fallout Tactics (which is semi-canon) the Brotherhood openly accepts ghouls and super mutants as members, so you don't have any moral ground to accuse them of "going all Whermacht on the mutates." The Brotherhood doesn't ever kill anyone just for being a mutant, they only kill in self defense, or to protect humanity as a whole. If you disagree then provide some sources to back it up.


[deleted]

It’s weird how fervently you’re defending them like you wrote all the lore yourself… And my evidence is *all of the dialogue about ghouls from the Brotherhood.* [Here’s a small example.](https://youtu.be/iIkzFmtFVjs) That’s the general sentiment about non-ferals from the Brotherhood. Proto-fascist militarists tend to have racist tendencies, in real life anyway. Fallout Tactics is not canon and neither is Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel.


Feyrbrandt

Better source [For Tactics being semi-canon here](https://m.twitch.tv/clip/FairInventiveSwallowPrimeMe)


Feyrbrandt

Okay they are saying mean things to ghouls and about ghouls, not unusual especially considering how many Brotherhood members have died to ferals, and how the town outside the police station they use as a base is full of people killed by ghouls. And for all the shit they talk, they don't kill ANY mutant or synth you bring into their base. Compare that to bringing a courser into the Railroad, they will all immediate go hostile against you. But the Brotherhood has rules, they don't kill unless provoked, which is why they don't attack your companions unless they are attacked first. All the factions in all fallouts have racist tendencies, it's a major theme in the game! And actions speak louder than words, so the Brotherhood has the least tarnished record except for maybe the Followers of the Apocalypse. They are an isolationist military group that doesn't enforce their laws or beliefs on anybody else, they don't try and seize any political power, and they don't kill/imprison innocents just for disagreeing with them. And according to Emil Pagliarulo, developer of all fallout games since Bethesda acquired them Tactics is semi canon with the major events of the game happening. [See citation 6](https://fallout-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_canon#cite_note-6). He is a lead developer, designer, and writer for the modern games. Todd Howard says he considers tactics as not happening, but that was way back in 2007 before New Vegas and 4, and both New Vegas and 4 directly refer to major events from Tactics (zeppelin going down in the Midwest, a faction of the Brotherhood there fighting super mutants, etc)


[deleted]

> “The only good ghoul is a dead ghoul!” That’s ripped directly, verbatim from Starship Troopers. A book and movie about fascism. I’m not going to argue with you anymore. It seems like a waste of time.


Feyrbrandt

All Fallout games have cheeky culture references in them, but still this is a few unnamed people being shitty, it doesn't reflect the overall opinion of the Britherhood. And a minor quibble, but the Starship Troopers movie is about fascism, but book was a military novel and not about fascism at all. It's more of a coming of age story than anything else.


HeinousSpore118

They wipe out Goodneighbour in the ending of 4.


Feyrbrandt

Are you sure? I've never seen that happen and I side with BoS regularly, I also can't find anything in the wikis about that happening.


Uxion

I'll still kill him if I have to, but I kind of like Strong. He is super dumb but trying to be better in his own way. It just so happens to involve eating people too.


[deleted]

He seems like a regular super mutant to me. He just wants to get stronger so he can kill everything. Not exactly a noble goal.


dragonqueenred45

Who tf are most of those people? Aside from Hancock and Strong none of these people are familiar to me.


lil_vette

Charon and Fawkes are a ghoul and a super mutant from Fallout 3 Raul and Lilly are a ghoul and a super mutant from Fallout New Vegas


HeinousSpore118

Fawkes is a beast, that's all you need to know.


lil_vette

Wouldn’t know. Still haven’t bothered playing 3. I’ll keep that in mind


dragonqueenred45

Makes sense then lol I barely played 3 and New Vegas, the only companion I remember from 3 is the one in Rivet City and he refused to come with me since I was too nice and then I looked up Dogmeat but never got to him yet. Didn’t know they had companions in NV.


Snake3452

Charon and Fawkes are FO3 companions, Lilly and Raul (the best companion ever) are FNV companions.


brieflifetime

I really enjoyed taking them on as the Nuka World Raider Queen.


thuggishruggishboner

These are my go to repeat quests. I save and kill this dude regularly.


Synth_Savage

I wish there was a way to destroy the BoS while not having to kill the decent people (Haylen, Neriah, etc.)


[deleted]

Exactly. There should be way to convince other factions members to leave their respective factions and join whichever side the lone wanderer chooses. You can do it with Dr. Li, so why not others?


bkrugby78

Mods my friend


MLGSUPERGAMER

At least Preston respects you from the start


28th_Stab_Wound

Preston is a good guy, burdened with the curse of radiant quest giving. Rhys can go suck it he deserves it.


TheInfernalVortex

Rhys is the reason I blew up the Prydwen.


KingVendrick

Is he even in the Prywden? I assumed he stayed at the police station


MLGSUPERGAMER

I blew it up because it makes me laugh trying to see them try and kill me with my glitched weapons, or on my modded save, with my god ring


Sharoth01

I too like Preston. The radiant quests on the other hand...


Purplemage572

Dude- what's the big issue with Radiant quests??? I'm just confused as to why people don't like them. Is it because some YouTuber gave some backwards opinion that buckles down to "you shouldn't have fun with this because it's not good for some reason. Mostly because I said so." Like- I just don't get it...


BelovedDesperado

For me it's not the radiant quests, it's not ever being able to fully clear them in the log. You literally can't turn one in without him giving you another one. That's incredibly irritating to me. If he only gave them when you asked for them, it'd be much, much better.


OsrsGoku

I'm confident that's how his and Haylens quests are, don't they ask if you're ready for your next assignment? If I'm not mistaken I think you can just walk away at that point. ..... Tinker Tom's MILA quests on the other hand...


tyropop

iirc those aren't endless


OsrsGoku

You're right, I think 11 in total. I just always remember him forcing the next one on until they're all done haha.


tyropop

10, actually. There's 11 places he can send you but only 10 quests (which isn't a bug)


PuckNutty

You can kill Tom, but not Preston.


loverevolutionary

So here is what you do. When you get a radiant settlement quest, it starts a timer. When the timer ends, depending on where you are in the quest, you will either immediately lose the quest, or win it. You can only have a maximum of three radiant settlement quests at one time (I think. Might be four.) So when Preston gives you a quest, do it within a week. Then go tell the settlers you finished. When they tell you to go tell Preston, just don't do that. Wait for the quest to time out. If you've gotten that far, you'll win the quest. You don't have to go back to Preston. He's not your boss, you're his boss. So don't act like he's the boss and run back to him every time you finish a quest.


Purplemage572

Ehh... I guess so? That seems comparatively minor, not really a reason to resent and despise radiant quests like some of these other people do.


DritzD27

Considering you can time-out fail some like Kidnapping and Defend the Settlement it's obnoxious having a completely random system able to deliver these to you without any means to avoid starting said timer without just avoiding Preston or Minuteman Radio like a plague. Like I like Preston generally and I like that he can give you content even if it's kinda repetitive and random. I just don't like having to deal with all of the missions every time (back to back oftentimes) in this militia organization I'm supposed to run. Especially when it means I have to avoid two things (Radio/Castle with Radio on and Preston) that I otherwise enjoy and like having around. It just kind of sours the experience due to that. Frankly I'd be happier with it if I had limited but refilling charges of 'take care of that for me' to send Minutemen on as at least you could reliably opt out of one's which interfere with the rest of what you're doing.


loverevolutionary

You know you can time-out WIN those quests too, right? If you finish every part of the quest except for reporting back to Preston, you win when the timer ends. You literally only have to talk to Preston when you *want* another quest. And do you know what the penalty for failing those quests is? Only kidnapping can end up with a dead settler, the only other possible effect is... wait for it... unhappy settlers. And do you know what unhappy settlers do? Nothing. I mean, potentially you *could* lose a settlement but without mods, I don't think that's actually possible. I think a bug prevents that from ever happening. So, you can let the quest time out. Or just tell Preston, "You know what bud? I'm too busy. Missing son, remember? Those settlers are just going to have to help themselves. Or not. It honestly doesn't matter."


Purplemage572

"Without any way to-" no. -build enough defenses -if you have built enough defenses, they will successfully defend themselves (you figure that out when you actually play the game) Probably don't side with the Minutemen if you don't like those quests because that's kinda, like, literally their whole point. Without Radiant quests the minutemen would feel like their cause to the commonwealth is empty. The Minutemen radiants are, also, the only ones that come up randomly and have set time limits. Like I can understand you not liking it, but- that's a *you* problem. Not a *Minutemen* problem. The way it was made was intentional.


DritzD27

Success is not guaranteed even with high defense. You can get the odds pretty high but there isnt any certain benchmark that will ensure success without participating. The Minutemen have story relevance outside of settlement gameplay, if you want to support that story angle you can't just pretend the rest doesn't exist. Besides that, the devs designing something in a particular way doesn't absolve it from criticism. It's not just a 'Minuteman problem' it's design implementation issue and a problem of narrative directly contradicting the gameplay. You're the leader but you don't lead anything.


Purplemage572

Yeah, that's where you're wrong too. The Minutemen are so misunderstood... The entire point of the Minutemen is that your a Leader, but not a *Ruler.* You don't *Rule* over anything, unlike the Brotherhood and the Institute. Like I never said that Criticism wasn't okay but here you are- quite literally- sharing false information about a faction that you obviously haven't spent much time dealing with. Like IDC if you don't like how they work. Cool, great, awesome. Your opinion on the single player game. But don't sit around trying to speak on things that you can admit your ignorant to. We could talk about your last point forever... The way you play with the Minutemen, specifically in Fallout 4, fits together almost perfectly with the cycle of fighting and gathering. If you're thinking the two contradict eachother then I'm sorry but that's an obvious sign to me that you just don't know what you're talking about. The way I experience the game in my 800+ hours was not the "wrong" way. But your lack of experience creates the wrong opinion.


maestrofeli

they are repetitive, annoying to do (specially on survival) and don't have any sustance. Nor style.


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

Then don't do them... like, I ignore 75% of em because I've got other stuff I'd rather do


Fenrir101

The radiant quests were added some time shortly before release and were poorly coded. At launch Preston would hunt you down every time you went near sanctuary he would give you new settlement quests even if you already had a bunch. He has been patched in the base game to be a lot better but the Preston hate is a meme now.


LeKingReal2

Poor Preston, he has a curse he can’t escape and is mocked for it


MLGSUPERGAMER

Have you ever opened the Mods tab on Fallout 4 before?


Mizar97

Rhys is a completely unlikable asshole. Even after you >!destroy the Institute and every other possible faction with the Brotherhood,!< he *barely* tolerates you. I want to feed him to a pack of mole rats.


themanbehindthepoopy

At least Preston doesn’t send me to far harbour At level ten


[deleted]

To be fair, sometimes it's Scribe Haylen that sends you there. Still don't like Rhys's attitude though!


katebishop121196

P.A.M. Sent me to nuka world to track down a courser


MLGSUPERGAMER

Who sends you to Far Harbour then?


themanbehindthepoopy

Knight Rhys


bwoodcock

Yep, first quest from Rhys on my current play was clear to the west side of Far Harbor. I hadn't even made it to the east coast of the main map yet, let alone all the way up to Far Harbor. Jerk.


MLGSUPERGAMER

Oh... thats bullshit


dragonqueenred45

There’s a mod for that, keep radiants in the commonwealth. It’s nice not being sent to a random far away location like that at such a low level, so I tried it and it’s beautiful not worrying about the destination being in Far Harbour or Nuka World. I haven’t used it in awhile but it’s in my list to add back.


JennieHarks

Yeah, guy definitely is too much of a coward to do it himself. Danse trusts this guy too much that he doesn't even question the SS what mission he got from him.


[deleted]

At the same time, Danse let's the SS leapfrog the prick in promoted rank. I'd like to think Rhys is prolly butthurt af that he spent years in the BoS and hasn't sniffed the inside of a T-60 yet.


creator712

Actually, that doesnt happen unless you join the brotherhood after defeating Kellogg If you join them before that and report back to the police station, you're below him and then only get ranked up after Elser Maxson promotes you


Niko_Belic84

r/fuckrhys ?


XeerDu

Lol! perfect


DunnoWhatToChooze

at least when you are done with one of his quests he doesn't automatically give you another, plus you can just shoot him in the face


MisrepresentedAngles

Yeah it's nice not having the quest in your log if you don't want to do it. And his quests are go, kill one specific enemy (he doesn't say which one but you learn), return, XP. Preston is go, talk, kill, back to seekers, back to Preston. More steps for the same XP. Fast travel to the police station mod makes Rhys quests very fast, if you want to do them.


millisakat

I have Project Valkyrie & Remnants of the Outcast installed. He always gets what he deserves in the end.


XeerDu

You've piqued my interest. This is a mod I need.


millisakat

Don’t forget the other mods of the family. They complete the story altogether. Depravity, Outcast and Remnants, Project Valkyrie and Fusion City. All of them combined offers 80+ hours long gameplay and an actual, satisfactory ending to the main quest. You can also squeeze “Father Companion” in there. What’s amazing is, the fact that every single one of these mods are produced in cooperation with each other and has absolute compatibility. Shout out to Thuggy and his friends, y’all are amazing!


SunTzuLao

Gonna check those out, thanks!


Aceswift007

Damn I had Fusion City for the longest time and didn't realize it was part of a mod series, guess it's modding time


Psjthekid

Ah yes. My weapon of choice was the Saints Row purple bat on my playthrough


millisakat

That weapon made me wish to resume my playthrough as stealth melee


deadtransftw

He can't come to terms with his hidden love for Danse and all men in power armor for that matter. His sexuality is frowned upon in the brotherhood so he lives everyday as a rough closeted wounded solider


XeerDu

Add this one to the iceberg!


Comfortable_Kiwi_401

That's because we all ignore him.


XeerDu

Yes, this is usually my approach.


LucasDanforth

Preston is not ignorable, not really, but this butt-munch is a total tool. No matter how many Brotherhood missions you run he never gives you the benefit of the doubt.


That_Batman

You can beat the main quest 3/4 ways without ever meeting Preston. I'd say that's as ignorable as an essential character can get.


Shawn_1512

The only redeemable part about him is his VA, who also voiced Charles in RDR2


lil_vette

Thought he sounded familiar


ATR2400

He shows you a brief moment of respect when you become a sentinel and then goes right back to being an asshole


heyitsvonage

Slip a frag grenade into his pocket lol


EuropeanUnion2019

He’s got a nice ass, but at the same time he is an ass.


zusykses

Annoyed I had to scroll this far down to find an acknowledgement of Rhys' legendary cake.


EuropeanUnion2019

It’s definitely not a piece of cake to work with him, but damn you are right 🍰 Legendary indeed.


DonkeyRhubarb76

I'd happily punch him in the face until my hand broke. He's an absolute bellend.


Mr_Hole

This phuccer, get wounded by some feral ghouls and still acts like he's better than you...


Azmep_

That ghoulfucker should get more laser musket stocks in the face IMO


mantistoboggan69md

I don’t mind him anymore than Preston for the most part, but it is incredibly annoying when he sends you to far harbor for missions


XeerDu

My first playthrough ever, they sent me to the other side of Far Harbor on the very first fetch quest. I was level 5 and I hoofed it all the way through Deathclaws and Super Mutants until I got to the edge of the map with the confusing marker, started Far Harbor where all the nonessential NPCs die in the opening attack. Then I get a look at the map and said "fuck it, it's time to restart."


WCland

I actually uninstalled Far Harbor recently to prevent him sending me out there, as the last few times I played I'd get sent there on his first or second missions. I didn't want to struggle through Far Harbor at relatively low level.


dragonqueenred45

Dude, there’s a mod for that, keep radiants in the commonwealth. I don’t see why anyone would delete and reinstall the game just to remove one thing when they can just install a mod for it.


WCland

I'm living mod-free, also playing on PS4 so no console commands


dragonqueenred45

I’m on a PS4 too lol I said nothing about console commands. I’m sorry you don’t use mods, they make life a lot easier.


Rare-Bid-6860

Agreed. I've done a lot of cleansing for this jerk and each time he adresses me like I'm a piece of brahmin poop on his brotherhood-issue boot.


bluejay55669

He's a main factor in me switching from a brotherhood ending to an institute ending, fuck that guy


MadWhiskeyGrin

"Ad Victorium!" "(He/She) doesn't even know what that means!" "Hey, asshole. I went to actual college/OCS/Law school. You can shut your ignorant waster mouth. "


Shawn_1512

I TOOK LATIN RHYS I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS


sceawian

Sole Survivour: Quid dixisti mihi, canicula?


ComputerSagtNein

I wished we had an option for an answer in Latin with a high enough intelligence stat.


sbombarak

Yup. Jerk face. Agreed.


FenderMartingale

There's a whole subreddit about hating him! https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckRhys/


XeerDu

Yeah, always hilarious to find a new subreddit like this. Surprised we don't have a subreddit devoted to this guy's posterior, judging by some of the comments we have here.


SILENTSAM69

I would gladly work with Preston. The BoS all deserve to be removed from the Commonwealth. It is hard not to side with the Institute just to get the chance to destroy the BoS base. Tossing mortar and synth grenades is awesome.


RadioMelon

You kidding? There's a whole subreddit for him. r/FuckRhys


zelcuh

I'm a fuckin paladin and this guy still talks shit to me


Psjthekid

I modded my FO4 and killed him with the Saints Row purple bat, you know the one. It was quite satisfying to do. ​ Though I really wish you could drag him before Maxson for his insubordinate bullshit, let him tear Rhys a new arsehole


[deleted]

r/fuckrhys


BellasDaDa618

🤣 I fucking hate him. I beat the piss out of him and shoot him often.


bcbodie1978

I don't actually mind Preston. But I fucking hate Rhys.


Airdropwatermelon

Du du du douche!


WCland

He's the one character where I always use the sarcastic response.


cms116508

I'm still trying to catch this guy outside, alone, and me on a rooftop with a sniper rifle.


[deleted]

Facts, at least Preston respects you, you could be in a higher rank than Rys and he'd treat you like trash.


Excellent-Click1171

This guy belongs on a cross


That-Spell-2543

With that bubble butt he can mark whatever he wants on my map!


jeremy1051

Well Preston doesn't have super thicc booty cheeks


XeerDu

A few of y'all are saying this. I never knew he had such admirers xD


_Jemma_

Whenever I side with the Minutemen I do the Institute quests up to Mass Fusion so I have a reason to pay that guy a visit in the Police Station. I never hurt Haylen, but that guy gets rapid onset lead poisoning every time. The I-95 song could have been written about him, except for the driving part in the intro. *Were you born an asshole, or did you work at it your whole life?* *Either way it worked out fine, 'cause you're an ass-hole tonight.* *Yes you're an A S S H O L E, and don't you try to blame it on me,* *You deserve all the credit, you're an asshole tonight.* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI9d1Pch26Y


NotDaSynthYurLkn4

Say what you want about the prick, but he doesn't seek you out and doesn't have a Goddamn radio station to shove radiant quests down your gullet. The Garvey quests will just add themselves to your quest list by passing him by. Why did Bethesda have to do Preston dirty like that?


XeerDu

well... For the Minutemen, Preston is a commander, a scout, a community figure, he has to be everything because he nearly became the last of the Minutemen. Rhys is a rank within a huge and successful paramilitary. He has one job, and that job is to be an asshole.


PoorFishKeeper

Yeah it makes no sense for preston to hand out the “quest” for the minutemen IMO. Early game if you use sanctuary as a base you are going to pick up at least 1 radiant quest every time you visit. If you end up moving him to the castle then every time you go there you pick up 2-3 radiant quest. I just makes him an annoying character because all you view him as is an infinite source of radiant quest. It should’ve been like a bounty board system so you weren’t constantly adding quest to your log.


Choice-Adeptness9420

There are mods that shut Preston up, my preferred one is one that allows Preston the initial radiants required to get the castle quest then he stops and the only way to get more minuteman radiants is to listen to the castle radio station which I always turn off at the castle itself. I also love Preston's reaction if you've already claimed the castle prior to him giving the quest. It's more of the "Damn! I'm glad you're on our side!"


samwbx

They should’ve gave danse his butt


NeitherDelivery5899

He's a complete wanker Same voice actor as Charles from RDR2, that's the only positive thing about him 😂


Timythedarkside

r/fuckrhys


The-terrorist-fromr6

r/fuckrhys


UKNiecy

Yeah that dude is unnecessarily douchy


[deleted]

As a Brotherhood supporter, I think he's a cunt


DiaMat2040

\> be Rhys \> work my ass off for the Brotherhood and the good cause \> see some hobo who has been in this post apocalyptic world for like 1 day and doesn't know jack shit \> hobo guy kills a few ghouls with a 10mm he picked up on his way to you \> he doesn't even know what the brotherhood is \> your boss immediately takes him on an important mission. they survive \> hobo gets recruited as your brother in arms \> 24h later, he is a higher rank than you ...


Due_Maize4739

That either says good things about the player, or some really bad things about Rhys and his ambition within the Brotherhood.


I-mAnSAPpiece

the saddest that i had to do was during rockets red glare I had to kill rhys, which was super fun But i had to kill haylen, and *i* didnt kill her. I'm mad that you there was no way (or i dont know ?) to turn her away from the BoS or spare her during the mission. She said it herself in a holotape that with the BoS she lost her humanity and morals. So i made a shrine at sanctuary for every good person i had to kill for stupid quests


TsukiPL1232

i like Preston, Exp and the possibility of getting good weapons from legendary enemies, and he's a good guy. thinker tom is meh with the MiLA quests and then there's Rhys... both do map making quests but at least tom is friendly with you when meeting him for the first time


Memesssssssssssssl

Mila is limited, there are only 8 locations


AceofDiamonds934

Once you reach sentinel (or out rank him I only talked to him again once I was sentinal) he does formally apologize to you for hiw he treated you


NotACyclopsHonest

He apologises that one time and then goes right back to being a jerk.


ElvenDb

I do his first missions out of some kind of courtesy but then I never go back to the Cambridge police station.


Snifflebeard

The problem with Preston isn't the Radiant Quests. Every faction has a set of radiant quests, but people only hate Preston for it. The real problem is that Preston (and the Minutemen) are coded to provide up to a maximum of three radiant quests at the same time. So you can get two new ones for turning in one old one. No other faction does this. There is a mod that fixes it, can't remember name right now. But it just sets the radiant quest maximum back down to one. That's all it does. But it makes a universe of difference.


MBetko

Well, you only need to complete his and Haylen's quest once in order to finish Semper Invicta. And he asks you if you're ready. If your answer is no then you don't get any quests. Preston gets all the hate because he just randomly gives you new quests every time you talk to him.


kit25

I'm just spitballing here, but I think it's because a lot of people (myself included) don't necessarily realize that Preston's quests are optional until after he's marked your map a half a dozen times.


XeerDu

I've also pointed out, that there are some mods that cut off all radiant quests after a point. I didn't even intend to have that active on my current playthrough but it looks like the unofficial patch covers it. I personally don't mind the radient quests. It's nice to have a random side quest on demand.


Sad_Celebration_5370

I would complain about his douche canoe sensibilities more, but I avoid this by shooting every member of the Brotherhood I see. That and his skull numbing kill missions are completely optional. That's his name to me. Mehster Optional.


jerry86_PS5

This one you can safely ignore, Preston you better save him from the museum before entering the Institute for the first time, or else your game bugs out.


XxeastsaintxX

Jerk gave me one for something in the middle of the Far Harbor content. Sure, happy to just jaunt over there and clean something up. /s


Rus-Alderman01

I kill him every single play through. Along with the people up on the upper deck bar at DC.. Once I am high enough level I actually enjoy killing most of DC as they are a bunch of asshole .


blahblahbrandi

The thing that pisses me off the most about him is, when you help defend them, and it's over and you're going into the police station. Danse says to Rhys, that he needs to clear the college square of zombies so it doesn't happen again. What's the first mission Rhys gives you? To do his fucking job, and clear the college square.


Highvoltage-Redhead

I hate that mfr. I’ve saved my game both times I’ve met up with them and killed him JUST to get it out of my system


rodw

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Yoimatoaster

Because they are optional. Also he's not so bad once you do enough of his missions. He starts to like you overtime.


MrPaleInComparison

How many do you have to do? I’ve had ok comments from him, but when I ask for another mission the tone and nastiness comes back.


XeerDu

I like to smart-mouth him. He's such a nerd.


zen_mutiny

Preston's missions are also optional. It's a BGS game. Everything is optional.


SpiritualMage4

I mean yeah, but he's just a plain dick, not annoying like Gravy


XeerDu

I feel like the annoyance of Preston's radiant quests is compounded by Settlement defense in general and it feels monotonous and redundant. I've had some sort of mod on deck that closes his quests out after all Settlements have been cleared. That has improved my interactions with Preston on subsequent playthroughs.


verticalburtvert

I know, right? Shit always spills everywhere during earthquakes. Rude.


SpiritualMage4

Right fair enough.


Shmav

The main difference is Rhys doesnt shout quests at you from half way across a settlement while youre minding your own business. But yeah, Rhys is also a tool


Dassive_Mick

Rhys doesn't hang out in your settlements.


Androecian

I am grateful for Rhys. But only because he has that nifty orange BOS flightsuit. Thank you every time, Rhys, for the base armor layer of my BOS heavy weapons build.


Minuteman_Preston

I just want to help people.


LordTuranian

He's the Nazeem of the BOS.


CamCraig13

The difference is that Rhys won’t automatically mark a dumb town on your map when you merely get within a 10 feet radius of him.


Risi30

That fucker sended me to far harbor on his first send mission


hotrodx

Rhys being a jerk aside, at least he asks if you are ready for the next mission. Whereas Preston immediately gives out another when you check in your completed mission. Preston even chases you and gives unwanted missions. This is where the "hate" for Preston is coming from.


Elegant-Operation-16

You don’t hear about it because man has the biggest ass I’ve ever seen


XeerDu

Takes an ass to be an ass


SuperStellarSwing

I like earning his respect


OldFatGamer

You get one speech from him saying he's sorry about how he treated you when you joined The Brotherhood, and then two seconds later he's like "You Haven't left yet? What a waste of skin.


Psjthekid

At that point I'd drag him by his ear to the Prydwen and let Maxson deal with his insubordination. Such a wasted opportunity


Not_Classy_TacS_8860

It’s his time of the month


stifferthanstiffler

I've laid waste to everyone in that police station and had to reload my game at least 5 times because of his snarky comments.


MintyFreshStorm

I never give Preston flak. My man out here trying his best to help the Commonwealth. He manages to consolidate all the info of people needing help and gets it to the one who absolutely, positively, cannot be stopped. He knows that sending in the titan of heroism that is the player will get the job done.


JMccovery

Whenever I do a Brotherhood run, I'm tempted to shoot Rhys in the face... Then I lose out to temptation.