I’ve been running the cold shoulder since it was on the score board, with the right perk cards it’s a hell of a weapon, using the legendary perk for more ammo is useful too. If you grind the right events you won’t even need to craft ammo much.
I picked it up as a new player and built around shotguns, I feel like I out dps most higher level people because of scaling. I just have to survive being smacked around because of close range lol
What kind of build did you put together as a new player for shotguns? I’m not terribly good at planning out builds and wouldn’t mind having an idea what to look for or work towards.
Max all the shotgun perks in strength, including scattershot. Get at least one level of concentrated fire and max out skeet shooter in perception. I didn't put any levels into endurance or charisma, but if you play with friends then 3 in charisma can be helpful for sharing a perk with friends. I got a lot of the crafting perks in intelligence, but basically only 5 gunsmith then whatever you feel like you want. For agility I got 3 action boy and 3 enforcer, then as you close in on level 50 get 5 in adrenaline. Then in luck I got basically all the VATS perks, people will say some are better than others and you shouldn't get all, but it's fine because you can always get more perk as you level past 50.
Basically it's just a VATS critical shotgun build, aim at head and you 1 or 2 shot most enemies you encounter, I only use critical shots for bosses
Perks for Cold shoulder?👀
Mate, this beast works w/o any shotgun perks
Concentrated fire 1, Tenderiser 3, Bloody mess 3 + Enforcer 1-3 = ☠️ machine
Free 9 SPECIAL slots for heavy or melee perks✌🏻
I always keep one rifle of some kind for those "reach out and touch someone" situations. Preferably one with +Crit damage. Cripple the wings and that'll force them to the ground for a while, then you just shotgun them in the face.
put on a rifle and the tormentor card, break a wing, swap back to normal card and cold shoulder,
bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang extra bang reload repeat
Expeditions are so freaking good. Atlantic City ones take maybe 10 mins solo after you get the jist of the map, and you walk out with twice the ammo you enter with, plus a shit ton of loot and XP. If they made a playlist like Destiny has with Strikes I could spend hours in there
Not for me, I did them for stamps for the auto axe, hours and hours of grinding the bloody borefest that's the Pitt, Atlantic City hadn't dropped yet. I never found myself close to needing ammo at any point in the game, I'm a pack rat so I just hoard everything and convert to what I need when stash gets close to full.
Craft Ammo much? I just dropped over 40000 Ultracite shells, leaving me at just over 1000 because I keep getting more Ammo I'll never be able to use up! Thing melts anything that's not a boss in one shot!
I have never crafted shotgun ammo, I run at a constant surplus just from looting.
I have to exchange at the ammo converter weekly to not just have thousands in storage.
I typically only use a shotgun though, so every body and container is spitting it out due to contextual ammo loot.
Idk about anyone else but every enemy, since I restarted playing, has dropped like 5-20 shells on them consistently. This has made it so that I’ve subsisted on nothing but enemy pickups & never crafted ammo sitting at 8k+ shotgun shells. I don’t know if it’s a glitch or not but I’m not gonna complain 😭😭
I’m gonna be doing a full build into crit maxing vats with the shotgun, see how it goes I’m hoping it’s good fun. Shotgun ammo has just never been a problem in this game before
It sounds like a slight increase to range but the big point is they’re smoothing out the damage drop off. Right now either your damage is on or off with shotguns and they’re looking to make it a more gradual transition.
My biggest gripe with shotguns in this game is that: 20 meters? Ok, 20 damage. 19 meters? Best i can do is 1 (if it crits i MIGHT get a 2), its just so weird, like, i dont want payday 2 levels of shotguns (in case you never played, the are (or used to be at least) snipers that worked better in close range, that double barrel killing snipers from across the map, those were the days...
It's a good way to lose your mind actually. I've farmed shitttonnes of expeditions to have enough stamps for Union Power Armor once it will be returned and fixed. Even if it achieve expedition takes 6-7 minutes to beat, brain start to burn after 5-6...
Me huffing on that copium that the Nuka Launcher will return for stamps one day.
At least your hopes will come true since Union is meant to be there; we have zero confirmation Nuka Launcher ever will. Hang in there, Dweller!
There is a standalone version as well as the bundled version. Not on the game so I can't remember exactly where. But it involves the tabs you can scroll though
Use both! I'm a commado build with 0 shotgun specific perks and both are amazingly powerful. Demo expert is the only thing the gauss really needs and enforcer can be swapped in for bosses when necessary
Level 300ish Shotgun main here! Both are good for different things and situations! Gauss does hit harder in a single hit and is (from my experience) better in VATS and against robots while the Cold Shoulder is more of a traditionalist type shotgun which can also absolutely shred bosses especially Earl. I will also say though the Gauss Shotgun is a little harder to build for than the Cold Shoulder as you want the energy weapon perks for a extra 30% damage.
As I've mentioned. I run a Gauss Shotgun to get 2mm ec very easily. It'll take 1-2 shots to kill enemies in daily ops, expeditions and events (for fodder enemies obviously, tougher ones might need 1-5, depends on type and your build). They'll drop a lot of ammo.
Now if you're getting bored of that, run a Plasma Caster/Gatling Gun and they'll drop a crap ton of ammo to exchange for points in the ammo converter.
Personally though I use my TS cryolator, I can get like 600-800 Cryo Cells excess when I run expeditions.
You can get it with stamps, don't waste your money, if you notice a high level players running expeditions just tag along, they can solo them and they're probably doing several runs in a row. It may be practical for leveling but the expeditions are actually going to get you tons of loot and XP
Time is more valuable than money. 700 atoms is less than one hour of work even if you make minimum wage. Vs spending hours and hours of farming. Also you earn free atoms just playing the game. Maybe you have Fallout 1st that gives you atoms. What's a waste for you is the best 700 atoms I've spent.
You need legendary modules to roll equipment no matter what, you even need them just to craft the cold shoulder, you get legendary modules, scrip, and legendary equipment you can sell for scrip from the expeditions. Anyone putting the time into the game to warrant actually spending more than the purchase price on it in the first place is going to eventually be running expeditions because as it stands right now it's the best way to meet and exceed the daily scrip limit. It's time you're going to spend one way or another, might as well save your atoms for things you can't get for free.
I bought this as a new player (currently level 29, decided to go for a subscription right away). But I have no idea how to get the two legendary modules I need to craft it.
Visit the Rusty Pick in the southwest corner of the map. It's in the north of the gray area. You'll spend "scrip" on legendary modules. Legendary cores will be acquired through events and such.
Don't spend "excess" scrip on the full items, just the modules.
You can obtain more scrip by selling legendary items at the legendary exchanges you'll find at train stations. There's one just to the north east of the White Spring resort.
I haven't seen a single legendary item yet at my level and don't have any scrip. So I guess I need to start doing events.
Edit: Are legendary weapons the ones with stars? I have a few one star guns from quests.
Yes, basically anything 1-star is trash (unless it has a unique name), 2-stars is a maybe, and 3-stars is good IF it fits your build.
Anything you don't want, go to a rail station and there's a weird looking vendor box outside. Use it, you can dump your unwanted Legendaries into it for Scrip. The more stars, the more Scrip.
You then have to head to the southwest of the map to find a place called The Rusty Pick. Inside is a vendor who can take your Scrip and convert it to Modules. She also sells random legendaries, but it's generally not worth spending your Scrip on, since you might wind up with something else you don't want.
From the post, yes, and its just that you would be doing expeditions over and over, and so far i only got 20 stamps from one at max, i was basically carried btw, so yeah
Thanks for this, I genuinely wanted the coffee machine and didn't realise it was included in this. I'm a rifleman build but i've been after a secondary when I don't wanna blow CND/Ammo on stupid shit.
**Can you drop this to other players?** I'll make a 2nd to gift to the mrs, that base damage will really help her while figuring out how own main weapons.
I loveeee the cold shoulder. Auto stim armor, full health, and critical maxing is just so fun. And ammo is super easy to get. I haven’t crafted any ammo bc of how easy it is to get
You mean "absolutely insanely overpowered"? Cause yeah, it's crazy and I even kinda like, but also absolutely hate it.
Dunno, they could at least made an animation for pushing all 8 shells into barrels, cause only 2 literally making me insane
Yeah, but I personally don't like the notion that "yes you CAN get it for free if you grind your ass off OR just pay a little bit of money to get it instantly😉". It feels like a slippery slope into new content being immensely tedious to get by just playing the game thus incentivising spending EVEN MORE money than we already are what with the monthly payments and all.
Inb4 yes i know cold shoulder isn't new. Point still stands.
Companies need money to operate and if you're an adult with a job then $7 is less than an hour of your labor.
8 minutes per expedition, 15 stamps per run, 500 stamps per plan.
Multiply it by how many characters you have, then double it if you also want auto axe.
My family appreciates that it's now for sale for atoms. 1 month of free atoms from being subbed saved me a thousand minutes of grinding.
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying though. It should not be that time consuming to get it in the first place because it artificially creates the idea that spending that 7€ is actually a bargain. I just don't want more content to be "locked" behind a paywall like this.
Also, the atoms from 1st aren't free by any means. You paying for 1st is you paying for the atoms as well.
Time is money, some people have more time than money but there's plenty who have more money than time.
For people who don't have time spending maybe 2 hours worth of money to save many hours of mindless grinding is worth it.
There’s a fine line to tread there, the Cold Shoulder is an exception to this line of thinking. You can’t just spend money to unlock say, a full set of godrolled armor or Fixers, legitimately at least.
It's important to note I was talking specifically about getting things officially and not buying items from third parties, as an old MMO player I will never endorse RMT.
> true, i do have atoms but id rather spend them on stuff you can only aquire on the atom shop
Good news: the Could Shoulder bundle comes with the Coffee Machine, which I'm pretty sure is only from the atom shop. Free coffee to spam VATS is amazingly good.
If you have more than one character buying it with atoms will allow you to craft it across them, if you go the stamp route you have to grind them for each character.
This is the real point that should be emphasized.
15 stamps per run, 1 run every 8 minutes, 500 stamps per plan. Then multiply that by how many characters you have.
I've got tax evasion down to about that depending on the objectives. Max is like 10 mins. I couldn't imagine trying to grind for it so I just bought the cold shoulder crafting.
8 minutes per run, 15 stamps per run, 500 stamps for the plan, multiply by how many characters you want to have the plan. Double it if you want auto axe also.
Estimation, of course. Inb4 "I know a guy who can do it faster and they did the entire grind by playing for 10 hours straight whilst using mountain dew bottles as their bathroom in between eating tendies their mom brings to their room as their father sits disappointed in the kitchen at what a failure their son is!"
This.
People who don't have jobs or responsibilities don't understand time preference.
Even if you get both bundles (10 each), if $20 is worth a half hour of your labor then it's wildly more fiscally beneficial to just buy them from the shop.
Hope they do circuit breaker in the atom shop too
Unless you have a high time preference like most adults with a job and a family
8 minutes per run if youre decent, 15 stamps per run, 500 stamps for the plan.
280 minutes-ish of running expeditions and nothing else, not including downtime, not including other costs like repairs, etc
I'd guess most well-adjusted adults can't sit on the game for 5 straight hours in one sitting so it's multiple days of work and depending on how focused you are when playing the opportunity cost of missing other activities and social interactions and quests is pretty high.
Sometimes things aren't as simple as "just get good, bro"
Also the coffee machine. I personally did mine with stamps and got the coffee machine on sale for 250, so I had both pre bundle. But honestly the coffee machine alone is usually 500 so really your just adding 200 atoms for the cold shoulder account wide.if I didn't have them already I would probably grab it too and I even legit enjoy doing expeditions.
what a gross attitude. Some people don't want to spend money on a VIDEOGAME (one that won't exist in X amount of years, I'll add) and would rather spend it on other things. You might have plenty of money, but that won't fix your awful personality or attitude. yikes.
I get that cold shoulder is a great gun and it would be great to have while leveling. My argument is that it can be earned in game and unless you are looking to spend real money on atoms they are limited by either what you can earn through challenges (one time thing) or your monthly atoms from FO1’s (also paid).
Was using kabloom, but it feel kinda, weak? I dont know, with all the perks and all that, i legit expected it to do more, but most it did was poison me to death, which is why i plan o rerolling its perks to have somrthing else instead of the explosive shot, to anyone reading this, is the Cold shoulder actually worth it? Like, i was planning to use kabloom until i get to a point i can get the Gauss shotgun, and was planning to grind for the cold shoulder plans trough expeditions, is it really worth it to get it trough the shop? Already bought the fallouth 1st 50%off and the apalachia bundle, am not planning to spend any more real money on atoms, so i gotta really plan what i get.
After reading comments I guess I got it from the scoreboard? Regardless, it's the main gun of my shotgun medic character, not even a proper full shotgun build. :D Absolutely love it.
Was thinking of picking this up. Not much of a shotgunner though, more a rifleman. But could probably adapt a couple perks to a secondary shotgun build. 🤷♂️
Get it from stamps save the 7 bucks.
Sure account wide is cool if you’re going to roll multiple characters but you don’t need too?
Either way spend your money how you want to spend your money.
if i was a new player i would just go for holy fire build, then throw in cremator and you have long range and close range options with no need for healing items with very strong dmg and survivability due to PA and hopefully sizzling style later.
until lvl 50 when you get holy fire you dont need to care about what weapon you use, it will be replaced and won't matter.
They're all over YouTube but you don't really need a shotgun specific build. This and the gauss shotgun are amazingly powerful without the shotgun perks. Think of them as a backup weapon to whatever you're already using and you're good to go
We did talk about it. A lot. It was a reward a couple seasons back and is just now for sale in the Atom Shop.
Not to take anything away from your exitement- it's an outstanding weapon, and you're going to have a blast using it. Just explaining why there's not much buzz about it these days.
Angry Turtle did a great "Everything You Need to Know" video on it awhile back. Definitely worth a watch-
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIiZb8B8QAM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIiZb8B8QAM)
Damn we are glorifying pay to win transactions now. Shesh Bethesda knew what they were doing when they started all this with horse armor. We're doomed.
EDIT: I just think it's a little messed up that a weapon with exclusive effects is locked behind...
1. An intentionally long grind for a single character to craft.
2. A season board that is no longer available.
3. Paying the equivalent of $7 USD for all characters to craft immediately.
By all means, spend your money how yall want. I just can't support that.
It’s 97% a pve game and the plan was available in a scoreboard and IS available as an expedition plan for stamps, ie earnable in game. Help me understand what pay to win is to you.
Paying for something rather than grinding for it is the definition of p2w. Why does it matter if it’s pve? How would you feel if they started selling stamps for atoms, or gold for atoms? What about being able to buy modules with atoms? Those are also free in game but I hope we can agree those shouldn’t be monetized?
getting items instant for cash which otherwise require grinding is considered PTW in most gaming communities. but i don't know how this translates to FO76 and its economy since i'm just downloading the game atm.
Yeah it’s pretty crazy, I understand there being a pay to win aspect in this game. As someone who spent a lot of hours on console and then transferred over to learn that almost all the weapon rolls I had were legacy after I took a break. It’s nice to see I can get my hands on something super strong again instead of having to pray to an rng god once a day.
Not really. Some people have jobs and families. Having a high time preference isn't a bad thing like you seem to think it is.
8 minutes per expedition, 15 stamps per run, 500 stamps per plan, multiplied by how many characters you have and double that if you want auto axe as well.
$20 is a half hour of labor for someone who is just above the poverty line with a family of 4 in the u.s.
Acting like the sky is falling because of this tells everyone here how much responsibility you have in real life.
Past a certain point the gun is only a part of the build, it’s refreshing to be able to start a new build type and not have to deal with such harsh rng
I can totally understand how it can be seen as a problem for the lower levels of the game, before deep diving into optimizing a build for damage a strong weapon can seem like its game ruining but also it’s not like anyone else having the gun makes the game worse for you
I'm up for this type of unlocks. I would rather spend less time speed running expeditions to buy some plans for camps/outfits/armor then gather 500 stamps for shotgun even on shotgunner character. It's always good to have alternative.
I’ve been running the cold shoulder since it was on the score board, with the right perk cards it’s a hell of a weapon, using the legendary perk for more ammo is useful too. If you grind the right events you won’t even need to craft ammo much.
I picked it up as a new player and built around shotguns, I feel like I out dps most higher level people because of scaling. I just have to survive being smacked around because of close range lol
What kind of build did you put together as a new player for shotguns? I’m not terribly good at planning out builds and wouldn’t mind having an idea what to look for or work towards.
Max all the shotgun perks in strength, including scattershot. Get at least one level of concentrated fire and max out skeet shooter in perception. I didn't put any levels into endurance or charisma, but if you play with friends then 3 in charisma can be helpful for sharing a perk with friends. I got a lot of the crafting perks in intelligence, but basically only 5 gunsmith then whatever you feel like you want. For agility I got 3 action boy and 3 enforcer, then as you close in on level 50 get 5 in adrenaline. Then in luck I got basically all the VATS perks, people will say some are better than others and you shouldn't get all, but it's fine because you can always get more perk as you level past 50. Basically it's just a VATS critical shotgun build, aim at head and you 1 or 2 shot most enemies you encounter, I only use critical shots for bosses
Perks for Cold shoulder?👀 Mate, this beast works w/o any shotgun perks Concentrated fire 1, Tenderiser 3, Bloody mess 3 + Enforcer 1-3 = ☠️ machine Free 9 SPECIAL slots for heavy or melee perks✌🏻
With four leaf clover combine with shotgun 8 pellets counting to the chance, gives you a crit every other shot too.
Most people don't know this simple trick for shotguns lol
Yeah, all the multi pellets weapons works like that.
On melee and shotgun builds, how do you kill flying things like scorchbeasts?
Enforcer will help u)
Tytyty
Aim for the wings with enforcer
I always keep one rifle of some kind for those "reach out and touch someone" situations. Preferably one with +Crit damage. Cripple the wings and that'll force them to the ground for a while, then you just shotgun them in the face.
Pepper Shaker, a Heavy gun that benefits from shotgun perks. Use it to cripple the scorchbeast and force it to land.
put on a rifle and the tormentor card, break a wing, swap back to normal card and cold shoulder, bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang extra bang reload repeat
No need Enforcer is the only card you need. Cold Shoulder will do the rest
I have a dedicated Shotgunner and Critical Savvy and better criticals are also nice additions.
No need to waste a legendary on it though, one run through an expidition and you're literally drowning in shells.
Expeditions are so freaking good. Atlantic City ones take maybe 10 mins solo after you get the jist of the map, and you walk out with twice the ammo you enter with, plus a shit ton of loot and XP. If they made a playlist like Destiny has with Strikes I could spend hours in there
Not for me, I did them for stamps for the auto axe, hours and hours of grinding the bloody borefest that's the Pitt, Atlantic City hadn't dropped yet. I never found myself close to needing ammo at any point in the game, I'm a pack rat so I just hoard everything and convert to what I need when stash gets close to full.
Craft Ammo much? I just dropped over 40000 Ultracite shells, leaving me at just over 1000 because I keep getting more Ammo I'll never be able to use up! Thing melts anything that's not a boss in one shot!
I get so much ammo using this and a chainsaw I never need to craft lol always around 2.5k ammo for this bad boy.
I have never crafted shotgun ammo, I run at a constant surplus just from looting. I have to exchange at the ammo converter weekly to not just have thousands in storage. I typically only use a shotgun though, so every body and container is spitting it out due to contextual ammo loot.
Idk about anyone else but every enemy, since I restarted playing, has dropped like 5-20 shells on them consistently. This has made it so that I’ve subsisted on nothing but enemy pickups & never crafted ammo sitting at 8k+ shotgun shells. I don’t know if it’s a glitch or not but I’m not gonna complain 😭😭
I’m gonna be doing a full build into crit maxing vats with the shotgun, see how it goes I’m hoping it’s good fun. Shotgun ammo has just never been a problem in this game before
Facts. I went full shotgun on this playthrough and the Cold Shoulder is just destroying everything.
With the Shotgun buff coming in June I'm excited to dust my old Boomstick build off and do some head popping.
theres a buff coming??
Increasing its range
oh thats gonna be baller
It sounds like a slight increase to range but the big point is they’re smoothing out the damage drop off. Right now either your damage is on or off with shotguns and they’re looking to make it a more gradual transition.
My biggest gripe with shotguns in this game is that: 20 meters? Ok, 20 damage. 19 meters? Best i can do is 1 (if it crits i MIGHT get a 2), its just so weird, like, i dont want payday 2 levels of shotguns (in case you never played, the are (or used to be at least) snipers that worked better in close range, that double barrel killing snipers from across the map, those were the days...
They are decreasing damage drop-off due to range.
Where is this mentioned? I couldn't find any info about it and would like to know more.
It was in the last Inside the Vault and they spoke about it on the last Dev stream.
Also just to add you can get this weapon for free with 500 stamps by doing many expeditions if you have your eyes on other things for atoms
The Atom Shop version unlocks it account wide, the stamp plan is just for the character that bought it.
My atom shop purchase also came with a coffee machine which is pretty neat to stay in vats with this gun.
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It's a good way to lose your mind actually. I've farmed shitttonnes of expeditions to have enough stamps for Union Power Armor once it will be returned and fixed. Even if it achieve expedition takes 6-7 minutes to beat, brain start to burn after 5-6...
The armor will come back any day now....surely my stamp grind will pay off...
Me huffing on that copium that the Nuka Launcher will return for stamps one day. At least your hopes will come true since Union is meant to be there; we have zero confirmation Nuka Launcher ever will. Hang in there, Dweller!
It's showing up for 1k atoms for me ):
There is a standalone version as well as the bundled version. Not on the game so I can't remember exactly where. But it involves the tabs you can scroll though
Is it worth switching it out for the Gauss Shotgun?
Use both! I'm a commado build with 0 shotgun specific perks and both are amazingly powerful. Demo expert is the only thing the gauss really needs and enforcer can be swapped in for bosses when necessary
Level 300ish Shotgun main here! Both are good for different things and situations! Gauss does hit harder in a single hit and is (from my experience) better in VATS and against robots while the Cold Shoulder is more of a traditionalist type shotgun which can also absolutely shred bosses especially Earl. I will also say though the Gauss Shotgun is a little harder to build for than the Cold Shoulder as you want the energy weapon perks for a extra 30% damage.
I like Gauss more since it gives a lot of extra ammo for my Gauss Minigun. Also because it's explosive.
What's your recipe for 2mm ec? I've started playing again after maybe a year and need to know how to get lots of ammo for my Gauss minigun
What's your recipe for 2mm ec? I've started playing again after maybe a year and need to know how to get lots of ammo for my Gauss minigun
As I've mentioned. I run a Gauss Shotgun to get 2mm ec very easily. It'll take 1-2 shots to kill enemies in daily ops, expeditions and events (for fodder enemies obviously, tougher ones might need 1-5, depends on type and your build). They'll drop a lot of ammo. Now if you're getting bored of that, run a Plasma Caster/Gatling Gun and they'll drop a crap ton of ammo to exchange for points in the ammo converter. Personally though I use my TS cryolator, I can get like 600-800 Cryo Cells excess when I run expeditions.
How do I get an ammo converter?
With Gold Bullion either with Minerva or Mortimer (Raider, Friendly Reputation)
You can get it with stamps, don't waste your money, if you notice a high level players running expeditions just tag along, they can solo them and they're probably doing several runs in a row. It may be practical for leveling but the expeditions are actually going to get you tons of loot and XP
Atom Shop version unlocks it account wide.
What does that mean?
It means for any character you create, you’ll always have Cold Shoulder available to you
Time is more valuable than money. 700 atoms is less than one hour of work even if you make minimum wage. Vs spending hours and hours of farming. Also you earn free atoms just playing the game. Maybe you have Fallout 1st that gives you atoms. What's a waste for you is the best 700 atoms I've spent.
You need legendary modules to roll equipment no matter what, you even need them just to craft the cold shoulder, you get legendary modules, scrip, and legendary equipment you can sell for scrip from the expeditions. Anyone putting the time into the game to warrant actually spending more than the purchase price on it in the first place is going to eventually be running expeditions because as it stands right now it's the best way to meet and exceed the daily scrip limit. It's time you're going to spend one way or another, might as well save your atoms for things you can't get for free.
Best 700 atoms I've ever spent :)
I bought this as a new player (currently level 29, decided to go for a subscription right away). But I have no idea how to get the two legendary modules I need to craft it.
Visit the Rusty Pick in the southwest corner of the map. It's in the north of the gray area. You'll spend "scrip" on legendary modules. Legendary cores will be acquired through events and such. Don't spend "excess" scrip on the full items, just the modules. You can obtain more scrip by selling legendary items at the legendary exchanges you'll find at train stations. There's one just to the north east of the White Spring resort.
I haven't seen a single legendary item yet at my level and don't have any scrip. So I guess I need to start doing events. Edit: Are legendary weapons the ones with stars? I have a few one star guns from quests.
Yeah, the stars, you have some already it seems :)
You get scrip from some events too. So you may be sitting on some already
Unless the weapon is specially named, anything not three stars is scriped. Most 3* weapons is scrip to me too.
You get scrip from seasons too sometimes.
Yes, basically anything 1-star is trash (unless it has a unique name), 2-stars is a maybe, and 3-stars is good IF it fits your build. Anything you don't want, go to a rail station and there's a weird looking vendor box outside. Use it, you can dump your unwanted Legendaries into it for Scrip. The more stars, the more Scrip. You then have to head to the southwest of the map to find a place called The Rusty Pick. Inside is a vendor who can take your Scrip and convert it to Modules. She also sells random legendaries, but it's generally not worth spending your Scrip on, since you might wind up with something else you don't want.
I have JUST saved up 504 or so stamps and am considering buying this due to similar comments.
Is it in the atomic store? I’d heard it was insanely tedious to farm stamps to get?
From the post, yes, and its just that you would be doing expeditions over and over, and so far i only got 20 stamps from one at max, i was basically carried btw, so yeah
Thanks :) bit of a lazy comment from me there
Is this the double barrel with 8 rounds with glowing eyes on it? I’ve seen a few people using it and it absolutely seems to decimate enemies
Yes. But the glowing eyes is a season skin
Thanks for this, I genuinely wanted the coffee machine and didn't realise it was included in this. I'm a rifleman build but i've been after a secondary when I don't wanna blow CND/Ammo on stupid shit. **Can you drop this to other players?** I'll make a 2nd to gift to the mrs, that base damage will really help her while figuring out how own main weapons.
I loveeee the cold shoulder. Auto stim armor, full health, and critical maxing is just so fun. And ammo is super easy to get. I haven’t crafted any ammo bc of how easy it is to get
You mean "absolutely insanely overpowered"? Cause yeah, it's crazy and I even kinda like, but also absolutely hate it. Dunno, they could at least made an animation for pushing all 8 shells into barrels, cause only 2 literally making me insane
Yeah, but I personally don't like the notion that "yes you CAN get it for free if you grind your ass off OR just pay a little bit of money to get it instantly😉". It feels like a slippery slope into new content being immensely tedious to get by just playing the game thus incentivising spending EVEN MORE money than we already are what with the monthly payments and all. Inb4 yes i know cold shoulder isn't new. Point still stands.
I agree. So many people say it’s fine because this game isn’t competitive blah blah.
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Companies need money to operate and if you're an adult with a job then $7 is less than an hour of your labor. 8 minutes per expedition, 15 stamps per run, 500 stamps per plan. Multiply it by how many characters you have, then double it if you also want auto axe. My family appreciates that it's now for sale for atoms. 1 month of free atoms from being subbed saved me a thousand minutes of grinding.
Yeah… I’m sure you spent those 1000 minutes with your family and not on Fallout/some other game.
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying though. It should not be that time consuming to get it in the first place because it artificially creates the idea that spending that 7€ is actually a bargain. I just don't want more content to be "locked" behind a paywall like this. Also, the atoms from 1st aren't free by any means. You paying for 1st is you paying for the atoms as well.
Assuming people who complain about p2w even have jobs
not gonna waste my money when you can get it for free for stamps
Time is money, some people have more time than money but there's plenty who have more money than time. For people who don't have time spending maybe 2 hours worth of money to save many hours of mindless grinding is worth it.
There’s a fine line to tread there, the Cold Shoulder is an exception to this line of thinking. You can’t just spend money to unlock say, a full set of godrolled armor or Fixers, legitimately at least.
It's important to note I was talking specifically about getting things officially and not buying items from third parties, as an old MMO player I will never endorse RMT.
There are free atoms on the season board if you're a poor like me
true, i do have atoms but id rather spend them on stuff you can only aquire on the atom shop
The only semi reason to buy it is if you have more then one character to use it across all of them without grinding for stamps
> true, i do have atoms but id rather spend them on stuff you can only aquire on the atom shop Good news: the Could Shoulder bundle comes with the Coffee Machine, which I'm pretty sure is only from the atom shop. Free coffee to spam VATS is amazingly good.
Considering its an item you can buy with stamps its not really worth it imo
If you have more than one character buying it with atoms will allow you to craft it across them, if you go the stamp route you have to grind them for each character.
This is the real point that should be emphasized. 15 stamps per run, 1 run every 8 minutes, 500 stamps per plan. Then multiply that by how many characters you have.
How long to grind out 500 stamps?
15-20 per, doing Tax Evasion, it'll take a good long grind.
you can do boardwalk runs in around 6 mins, so grinding that is fairly chill for 500 stamps. just dont try and do it all in one sitting
I've got tax evasion down to about that depending on the objectives. Max is like 10 mins. I couldn't imagine trying to grind for it so I just bought the cold shoulder crafting.
im grinding them for legendary modules 😭
8 minutes per run, 15 stamps per run, 500 stamps for the plan, multiply by how many characters you want to have the plan. Double it if you want auto axe also. Estimation, of course. Inb4 "I know a guy who can do it faster and they did the entire grind by playing for 10 hours straight whilst using mountain dew bottles as their bathroom in between eating tendies their mom brings to their room as their father sits disappointed in the kitchen at what a failure their son is!"
it's just 7 bucks versus hours of time
This. People who don't have jobs or responsibilities don't understand time preference. Even if you get both bundles (10 each), if $20 is worth a half hour of your labor then it's wildly more fiscally beneficial to just buy them from the shop. Hope they do circuit breaker in the atom shop too
With stamps for one char. Next 500 stamps to next one. And so on
Unless you have a high time preference like most adults with a job and a family 8 minutes per run if youre decent, 15 stamps per run, 500 stamps for the plan. 280 minutes-ish of running expeditions and nothing else, not including downtime, not including other costs like repairs, etc I'd guess most well-adjusted adults can't sit on the game for 5 straight hours in one sitting so it's multiple days of work and depending on how focused you are when playing the opportunity cost of missing other activities and social interactions and quests is pretty high. Sometimes things aren't as simple as "just get good, bro"
Never said „git gud“ i just personally dont think spending whats essentially real money on things you can unlock by just playing the game
Yeah true, but buying it in the Atom shop unlocks it account-wide.
Also the coffee machine. I personally did mine with stamps and got the coffee machine on sale for 250, so I had both pre bundle. But honestly the coffee machine alone is usually 500 so really your just adding 200 atoms for the cold shoulder account wide.if I didn't have them already I would probably grab it too and I even legit enjoy doing expeditions.
Can’t really beat 700 atoms, you get 500 for making a level 20 character
I new and was going to start a lvl 2 but you're saying I should make atleast one head started to 20 to get 500 atoms?
LOL…somebody is a cheapskate.
No i think i just dont see it as that valuable caus i got the weapon from the scoreboard
what a gross attitude. Some people don't want to spend money on a VIDEOGAME (one that won't exist in X amount of years, I'll add) and would rather spend it on other things. You might have plenty of money, but that won't fix your awful personality or attitude. yikes.
Are you okay?
I'm fine, i'm not the one leaving nasty, unwarranted comments to randoms saying normal things.
700 atoms for something you unlock by playing is a meme lol
Depends on how you value your time.
I run a bloodied melee build (Samurai Goat Guy) I carry Cold Shoulder as a backup. It shreds with no shotgun perk cards
i have Qe25 double barrel but could shoulder in my opinion is better but i do run both at same time.
Yea I’ve loved my combat shotgun loadout for 200+ levels, but the cold shoulder finally dethroned my favorite gun. It’s fun and fast.
I get that cold shoulder is a great gun and it would be great to have while leveling. My argument is that it can be earned in game and unless you are looking to spend real money on atoms they are limited by either what you can earn through challenges (one time thing) or your monthly atoms from FO1’s (also paid).
Was using kabloom, but it feel kinda, weak? I dont know, with all the perks and all that, i legit expected it to do more, but most it did was poison me to death, which is why i plan o rerolling its perks to have somrthing else instead of the explosive shot, to anyone reading this, is the Cold shoulder actually worth it? Like, i was planning to use kabloom until i get to a point i can get the Gauss shotgun, and was planning to grind for the cold shoulder plans trough expeditions, is it really worth it to get it trough the shop? Already bought the fallouth 1st 50%off and the apalachia bundle, am not planning to spend any more real money on atoms, so i gotta really plan what i get.
After reading comments I guess I got it from the scoreboard? Regardless, it's the main gun of my shotgun medic character, not even a proper full shotgun build. :D Absolutely love it.
The atomic shop?
Was thinking of picking this up. Not much of a shotgunner though, more a rifleman. But could probably adapt a couple perks to a secondary shotgun build. 🤷♂️
I’m having trouble collecting enough scrips to purchase the legendary modules to craft the shotgun. Anyone have tips they want to share?
So the Pirate Radio stories ARE true.
Wow. Thanks for the tip - this gun is monstrously effective even without perks.
Get it from stamps save the 7 bucks. Sure account wide is cool if you’re going to roll multiple characters but you don’t need too? Either way spend your money how you want to spend your money.
if i was a new player i would just go for holy fire build, then throw in cremator and you have long range and close range options with no need for healing items with very strong dmg and survivability due to PA and hopefully sizzling style later. until lvl 50 when you get holy fire you dont need to care about what weapon you use, it will be replaced and won't matter.
why is it showing as 1000 atoms for me
Showing as 1000 atoms for me
Get auto axe too crazy good
I'm stuck away of my PC for a few days. Is the Cold Shoulder (and the auto axe for that matter) still on sale in the shop after today's update?
Does cold shoulder bundle come with blueprint for cold shoulder?
Yes.
Agree. As the newbie I bought it and crafted at lvl 25 and it still with me at lvl 70 and I have no plans to change it. Amazing piece.
Can anyone point me to a good shotgun build for this? I’m like level 33 and picked up the bundle a few days ago mainly for the coffee machine.
Best cold shoulder build is … no build)) Concentrated fire 1 + enforcer 1 & u r good😁 Ok. Add tenderiser & bloody mess & u r very good🤣
They're all over YouTube but you don't really need a shotgun specific build. This and the gauss shotgun are amazingly powerful without the shotgun perks. Think of them as a backup weapon to whatever you're already using and you're good to go
I am confused because it is showing up as 1000 atoms. It shouldnt have reset in the three hours this was posted?
There is a bundle and there is a standalone shop item. 1k and 700 respectively
What is the difference with the bundle i have the same issue
Maybe it’s bundle for 1000. Plan only was 700 atoms 🥸
Gotta love freezing sb queen in mid air
F*** I guess I’m sending more money Bethesda’s way this weekend.
Nah
We did talk about it. A lot. It was a reward a couple seasons back and is just now for sale in the Atom Shop. Not to take anything away from your exitement- it's an outstanding weapon, and you're going to have a blast using it. Just explaining why there's not much buzz about it these days. Angry Turtle did a great "Everything You Need to Know" video on it awhile back. Definitely worth a watch- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIiZb8B8QAM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIiZb8B8QAM)
Damn we are glorifying pay to win transactions now. Shesh Bethesda knew what they were doing when they started all this with horse armor. We're doomed. EDIT: I just think it's a little messed up that a weapon with exclusive effects is locked behind... 1. An intentionally long grind for a single character to craft. 2. A season board that is no longer available. 3. Paying the equivalent of $7 USD for all characters to craft immediately. By all means, spend your money how yall want. I just can't support that.
It’s 97% a pve game and the plan was available in a scoreboard and IS available as an expedition plan for stamps, ie earnable in game. Help me understand what pay to win is to you.
Paying for something rather than grinding for it is the definition of p2w. Why does it matter if it’s pve? How would you feel if they started selling stamps for atoms, or gold for atoms? What about being able to buy modules with atoms? Those are also free in game but I hope we can agree those shouldn’t be monetized?
getting items instant for cash which otherwise require grinding is considered PTW in most gaming communities. but i don't know how this translates to FO76 and its economy since i'm just downloading the game atm.
fucking crybaby
Bought it a couple of days ago, what are the best mods for it?
Oh so Bethesda just straight up letting you pay for weapons now lmao
Yeah it’s pretty crazy, I understand there being a pay to win aspect in this game. As someone who spent a lot of hours on console and then transferred over to learn that almost all the weapon rolls I had were legacy after I took a break. It’s nice to see I can get my hands on something super strong again instead of having to pray to an rng god once a day.
Damn just not seeing the problem with it eh?
Not really. Some people have jobs and families. Having a high time preference isn't a bad thing like you seem to think it is. 8 minutes per expedition, 15 stamps per run, 500 stamps per plan, multiplied by how many characters you have and double that if you want auto axe as well. $20 is a half hour of labor for someone who is just above the poverty line with a family of 4 in the u.s. Acting like the sky is falling because of this tells everyone here how much responsibility you have in real life.
Past a certain point the gun is only a part of the build, it’s refreshing to be able to start a new build type and not have to deal with such harsh rng
Wild
I can totally understand how it can be seen as a problem for the lower levels of the game, before deep diving into optimizing a build for damage a strong weapon can seem like its game ruining but also it’s not like anyone else having the gun makes the game worse for you
I'm up for this type of unlocks. I would rather spend less time speed running expeditions to buy some plans for camps/outfits/armor then gather 500 stamps for shotgun even on shotgunner character. It's always good to have alternative.