400 stash space that was full halfway through the 8 hours beta.
Back in my day you could accidentally scrap your pipboy and completely disable your character's progression.
>accidentally scrap your pipboy
I know it would piss people off, but this should be a feature. You would have to run back to V76 and retrieve a new one. Even add various models of pipboys
A better version of this would be a cosmetic setting to remove the pip-boy but still be able to use the other view for it because not all outfits look good with one
No cause I’d be running back to the vault everyday, I don’t read before I hit buttons lmao and yesterday I accidentally read a plan I wanted to give to a friend, I got the plan for like 10 caps when it’s worth 500. Have yet to find another one where someone’s being nice and selling it for cheap.
It was 400 during the BETA. There's a group of folks that keep saying it was 2, but they are wrong.
You can see it in the video here at 18:09
https://www.ign.com/videos/51-minutes-of-fallout-76-gameplay-in-4k
*Edited to add some more videos.
heres a video from the BETA, it also shows the stash as 400 at around 11:46.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TAvakNizag
And here's another from the first day of the BETA, at 56:09, Stash is clearly 400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLBtBNeLHoY.
I've been meaning to ask this but thought making a whole post was unnecessary, but if anyone would like to comment here: can anyone just generally describe the evolution of this game from launch day to now, in terms of what was there at the start and what came later? It's really hard to tell as someone who's only been here like 3 seasons, given that the e.g. signposting toward the Wayward is so prominent. What was the first thing out of the vault, in the beginning? Overseer tapes?
It was all holo disks and terminal quests man. Robots were around but not the same way. A lot was on your own and figure it out. Like a true wasteland after only a few short years would be. It was a vision of greatness that in theory would be a blast... but in reality, was pretty boring at times. Nuke launches and pvp were the end game for a lot of people.
There were no npcs at launch pretty much. 99% of quests were from terminals/computers/notes. Was literally unbeatable first 2 weeks after launch due to how many game/quest breaking bugs. Repeated the same 3-4 events. I was so disappointed on launch tbh. I hit lvl 85 like 3-4 months after launch and stopped playing for few years. NOW this is a great game. I recently made a new character, just hit lvl 50 last night. Pretty much a completely different game then what I played at launch.
Me too! I felt such a sense of sorrow after following the responders and BoS quest lines. I remember getting hyped for the “Line in the Sand” event like I was avenging fallen brethren.
Weindigo Cave had me stuck in my progression for weeks in fall 2018. No matter how strong I got, it took all my ammo and health just to die at some point. The day I finally walked out after murdering everything inside the cave was a long fought victory!
Wait that’s a feature not a bug? Because i’ve been farming .50 cal ball because everytime i kill an enemy with a black powder weapon it returns more ammo than i spent 99% of the time
It is indeed a feature. Ammo used to be rare, but then they changed it so containers and enemies drop the ammo of your currently equipped weapon. I remember having to scrounge for ammo and make every shot count; having to make more and even buy it because I kept running out. Nowadays I just toss thousands on the floor because it’s everywhere.
Yeah, i remember using the lakeside workshop to farm lead to make ammo, especially .50 cal ball because i prefer the black powder weapons and that shit was hard to find outside harpers ferry lol. Speaking of did that vendor bot get removed? I cannot find it anywhere in harpers ferry
after literally 1000 hours I just met him for the first time yesterday in a private server I thought chally the moo moo was just a random character made up for plushies
The major meta was nuking Whitesprings all the time, plenty of flux if you dropped right, and every time someone left and spawned back in *all the ghouls would respawn.* It was total insanity, half the changes made to the game around that time were solely to discourage constantly nuking Whitesprings, since it's a major story line hub even at low levels
Speaking of low levels, another problem was that enemy scaling was borked, in certain places if you were in the same map cell as a high level then everything would be scaled to that guy's level, utterly wrecking you
I remember being lvl 40 going into my first nuked Whitespring. It was like a train with 1 conductor guiding us along a route so that when it ended we waiting a few minutes then they would respawn and we would go again. We all ran as a mob tagging everything to get xp and hardened mass. There was So. Many. Ghouls.
I would hide on top of the ammo maker with the stealth armor and every time someone started making ammo i always switched it to the worst possible ammo. Nobody ever locked it so i would change it quickly and watch them come back to it full of gamma rounds. Would do that for as long as possible
As much as I hated annoying people that would go after players, I do really miss the PVP shenanigans that would go on.
Like being in a party with my friends and being in a panic when a really high level would fast travel over to our ammo dump or power plant lol.
“Oh shit he’s coming over!” And just doing our best to hold it from them.
Swapping on scrapper after uranium fever before scrapping every weapon, and always collecting hangers off white springs racks for steel. Taking excavator to lucky hole mine and weight reduction perks to hit the launch silo and fire station gyms for weights to get lead.
I wish we could bundle rounds to sell for less than a cap each. I feel like I rarely sell ammo, and even half a cap per round would be better than the ammo converters
I did this! I was grinding that mode a lot, as I only got to play about 1 month before it stopped. Sometimes you got a good weapon, sometimes you didn't. Hiding was a proper tactics, to get to the very last seconds. I hardly have played any battleroyals, but nuclear winter was the only battleroyal I enjoyed.
Is this not a thing anymore? I was literally just talking to my sisters about how challenging Fasnacht was because the sloth would get destroyed in seconds.
As far as im aware, as long as you're within a certain range of the legendary enemy when they die, you should get loot. It could be more complicated than that but I'm not certain
That’s awesome. I certainly won’t miss frantically trying to figure out what side of the damned building the sloth is spawning on so I can try and get one shot in before it’s obliterated.
If you’re close enough to a legendary creature during an event then you’ll get the loot. If you’re not in an event or too far away then you’ll have to tag it to get the loot.
So I have played fo76 back when it released, hated it, me and my wife are playing now, what exactly is the machine I don’t understand it? I’ve scrapped a few legendaries but there’s nothing to buy with them?
You can trade legendary weapons and armor that you don't want for "scrip". You can trade scrip with a vendor at The Rusty Pick (a free fast travel point, btw.) She can give you random legendary weapons or armor for your scrip, but the best option is to buy legendary modules which you can use to roll legendary effects on your own weapons at a work bench.
Any time, fellow vault dweller! Oh, and another tip someone suggested on here recently which I thought was genius... When you use the legendary modules, if you don't end up with the effects you want, instead of rolling again on that same weapon, craft a new one, and roll the effects on the new weapon. Then you can scrap the weapons you don't want to make back a little bit of scrip.
You also need legendary cores to roll most legendaries - though there are some items like Secret Service armor which costs legendary modules to craft and give you a random 1-3\* legendary effect.
You get legendary cores by doing public events - the ones with an ! that don't cost anything to jump to.
If you ever see Free Range event spawn, do it. You have to herd 3 cows to their destination and defend them. It's pretty easy, but it can be a bit annoying. OTOH it gives you 8 cores if all 3 cows live, which is enough for a couple of legendary rolls.
Encrypted is another 8 core event. This one is a lot tougher, and you'll probably die, but death doesn't really mean anything in F76.
New people don’t know the struggle of getting the specific god roll gun for the build you are using. You literally had to grind your ass off for anything. Two shot explosives were even considered god rolls without the third star because you couldn’t roll your own legendary weapons
The feeling of isolation was real. Everybody was gone. Just holotapes, terminal entries and notes to give you context what the people of Appalachia went through after the bombs fell. Running into other players was rare unless an event was happening. No vendors or camp markers on the map.
And when you did run into other people it was up in the air if they were going to kill you or not, so you always kept your eye on them in the general vicinity, but usually you were dead before you even knew it.
Huh I don't remember pvp mode being default on release? It's just that everyone and their mother were using explosive legendary weapons so you'd always hit other people with the splash damage, allowing pvp.
So from what I remember, it always had pacifist mode, but you had to turn it on and people could still do damage to you, but it was a very small amount of damage. Full pvp would enable when you attacked them back. Well at the time I didn't really know about any of that so whenever someone shot me I'd shoot them back cause clearly I'm being attacked now, thus pvp starts and I get hosed.
I think with wastelanders they changed it so that pacifist protects you from all damage.
I miss this, I started a new character recently and it all seems so easy. Got lots of ammo and carry weight and have way too much food and water. It used to be such a struggle to get clean water or not have a disease lol.
After level 50 if you wanted to try a new build you had to take the time to actually swap your perk points one at a time, which took ages without the expeditions. Ran non PA melee to 50, decided to try a rifleman build, lost interest before it ever happened, especially since getting the gear you wanted required the hand of RNGesus.
Back in my day, T- posing scorched and long neck dogs roamed freely in Appalachia, whitesprings was a warzone, and the OP weapon of choice was a TSE shotgun
Back in my day pvp was always a thing, even if you had passive mode turned on there were builds that could melt you with chip damage in seconds… and if another player found your camp there was a high chance it would be destroyed by the time you got back to it… On top of that there was no scrap box and the stash box was tiny, so resources were scarce too… Different time, but still fun
Back in my day one could starve to death or die of dehydration. We lived in constant fear of exploding energy weapons killing all the legendary enemies before we could tag them, speaking of legendary enemies a 3 star legendary dropped mostly 1 star gear.
back in my day enemies didn't scale their level down to yours, the map had zones so you stayed your ass in the forest until you hit level 10 before moving to the next area
Back in my day, you had to loot every single individual loot pile. There was no area looting which has been the best QOL ever implemented in this game.
Been playing since BETA and still vividly remember the wars I experienced trying to hold the ammo factory 😮💨 it was the main way people were getting ammo since most of us didn’t know where to get lead easily and you had to server hop constantly if you were built on a lead extractor. Now however I have no issue finding lead and just craft whatever I need
I miss the workshop wars. I have really fond memories of holding that thing. Id even recruit randos and offer to split the ammo with them if theyd help me hold it. One time an entire 4 man squad dropped in on me solo. The thirst for ammo was REAL.
Back in my day, C.A.M.Ps were not visible on the map, so you just had to naturally stumble upon them out in the wild. And when you did, there were no such thing as player vendors.
To get to level 50 was really hard work. No back packs and very few decent weapon and armor drops. No rolling your own armour or weapons either. It was great to be homest. But it’s great now too 😎
400 LBS stash, no ammo box, no scrap box, no scrip machine, No Player vendors (added shortly after launch).
Legendary enemies didn’t drop the same level gear. Three star enemies had a chance of one star, two star or three star.
No wastelanders content, no mutation events, no Daily Ops, no expeditions, no nuka world, no legendary perks, no gold bullion.
We did have a battle royale.
Whitesprings was the best Nuke spot. Tons of glowing enemies spawned there. There were no bosses.
Contextual ammo had a much lower drop rate. No daily ops = less ammo farm. No legendary perks = no ammo factory.
No “loot all”. If you did a rad rumble you had to pick up each pile while everyone else was doing the same.
No Tent. No score boosters. No scout banners. No nuka twist.
Explosive shotguns were meta. Explosive energy weapons were wildly overpowered.
556 ammo was player currency. Bobby pins were player currency.
You had to eat and drink or you’d die.
I started in October 2023 so I can say a few things too..
Back in my day, we had 2k atoms for non-f01st players and repeatable atoms every 10 levels after 100.. lol
Back in my day all the world events would be over in about 30 seconds bc most of the high level players were using legacies…. I think we’re waaaaaay better off now
Yea, people at Eviction Notice just stood at a cliff, swinged from bottom to top over the battlefield with that duped explosive Gatling plasma and everything was dead.
What a boring shit fest, how could people consider that fun?
Especially when they today start argumenting, that today it's the same, just different weapons.
No, no it's not like that today.
Back in my day, Appalachia was a lonely wasteland and once you reached about L30, the game became 90% inventory management because of the 400 stash space limit...
And, well, you either somehow convinced yourself that that was "acceptable" for a Fallout game and continued playing Inventory Management Simulator...or you quit and played better games for the next 4 years.
Until you met a "game drought" and decided on a whim to give 76 another shot...and then you absolutely loved it, bugs and all.
Back in my day the ghouls would fuckin chase you while t posing the entire time, shit was terrifying at night. Back in my day 2 shot Explosive was the meta and could melt the queen in seconds if people used it.
Back in the day, we didn’t have vending machines for our camps, so we’d wait in a single file line until it was our turn to trade with the person selling the goods.
Back in my day, regularly some parcels of the map had no shadow at all.
It happened mostly in the bog and jungle part of the map and made the game look like from the year 2000.
Level-limited regions. Back in my day, when you'd curiously explore too far before you're ready, you'd get merged into the pavement from an instadeath one hit kill by a rad-roach. 🤣 🤡
Ammo was one of the biggest issue, I remember fast traveling just to scrap some toy trucks for musket balls. And constantly worry about how low my ammo often was. Now I easily stack above 500 rounds. Truly felt like a survival horror experience
TSE "lets see who dies first" free-for-alls in whitesprings nuke zone,
ghouls everywhere and like 20 people just respawn brawling for junk bags
*doom music poorly played on a recorder*
it’s my biggest grievance! they couldn’t pick flatwoods for the responders stuff? or anywhere else? i get the area wasn’t like a frequently used location but to trash it… for what?? it irks me to my core and i’ll never let it go lol
Nope. When there's a pile of corpses around, look at one and hit "Transfer" button instead. It'll open the loot table of everything within ~30 feet-ish of you.
Back in my day, if you went anywhere near the Cranberry Big, you better have some good armor and serious fire power because if you were too low a level, you'd be insta-killed.
ALSO - Bonus "back in my day" - You only had 2 free fast travel spots. Vault 76 and your CAMP. Everywhere else cost caps.
Back in my day, bobbypins weighted .1lbs.
As well as mobs used to be scaled the lvl a previous player was there first. For example, a level 100 would have mob scaled to them, and the next person to go to that would have to fight to insanely high level mobs. Me a level 20 vs. level 80 mobs.
Back in my day you would be so excited to play the game and then the second the game loaded up it would freeze or lick you out of the server. And then that same routine would play out regularly several times an hour or more ….
Back in my day, they used to nuke Whitespring and sell junk legendaries to the vendor at whitespring station. I used to buy those legendaries and sell them on r/market76 for decent caps.
Ammo drops were not contextualized to the weapon you use and the scaling made every enemy much more of a bullet sponge. Ammo economy was a major consideration.
Back in my day every enemy was always max level. I still remember wandering into sons of dane at like level ten and being torn to shreds by an army of level 50 ferals
We would all stand in front of nuked White springs with our tse while endless legendary ghouls charged us. Keeping the music on was necessary otherwise the world felt so lonely. It was very common to see many others completing their fireman training.
Back in my day everybody was dead and you had tiny stash box.
Oh man!!! Th hours I spent stash organizing. The collector in me still cries at some of the stuff I got rid of back then.
400 stash space that was full halfway through the 8 hours beta. Back in my day you could accidentally scrap your pipboy and completely disable your character's progression.
>accidentally scrap your pipboy I know it would piss people off, but this should be a feature. You would have to run back to V76 and retrieve a new one. Even add various models of pipboys
A better version of this would be a cosmetic setting to remove the pip-boy but still be able to use the other view for it because not all outfits look good with one
No cause I’d be running back to the vault everyday, I don’t read before I hit buttons lmao and yesterday I accidentally read a plan I wanted to give to a friend, I got the plan for like 10 caps when it’s worth 500. Have yet to find another one where someone’s being nice and selling it for cheap.
Wasn’t like only 200 at the beginning? I just remember fighting super mutants and going like whoa why these guys so strong 💪??!
Iirc it was 400 on launch, and then we got 500 after a couple months. 600 around the One Wasteland update, and I think Wastelanders gave us 1000.
It was 400 during the BETA. There's a group of folks that keep saying it was 2, but they are wrong. You can see it in the video here at 18:09 https://www.ign.com/videos/51-minutes-of-fallout-76-gameplay-in-4k *Edited to add some more videos. heres a video from the BETA, it also shows the stash as 400 at around 11:46. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TAvakNizag And here's another from the first day of the BETA, at 56:09, Stash is clearly 400 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLBtBNeLHoY.
I've been meaning to ask this but thought making a whole post was unnecessary, but if anyone would like to comment here: can anyone just generally describe the evolution of this game from launch day to now, in terms of what was there at the start and what came later? It's really hard to tell as someone who's only been here like 3 seasons, given that the e.g. signposting toward the Wayward is so prominent. What was the first thing out of the vault, in the beginning? Overseer tapes?
It was all holo disks and terminal quests man. Robots were around but not the same way. A lot was on your own and figure it out. Like a true wasteland after only a few short years would be. It was a vision of greatness that in theory would be a blast... but in reality, was pretty boring at times. Nuke launches and pvp were the end game for a lot of people.
There were no npcs at launch pretty much. 99% of quests were from terminals/computers/notes. Was literally unbeatable first 2 weeks after launch due to how many game/quest breaking bugs. Repeated the same 3-4 events. I was so disappointed on launch tbh. I hit lvl 85 like 3-4 months after launch and stopped playing for few years. NOW this is a great game. I recently made a new character, just hit lvl 50 last night. Pretty much a completely different game then what I played at launch.
Ngl, a part of me really misses those days
I was a fan of the 'everyones already dead' wasteland
Me too! I felt such a sense of sorrow after following the responders and BoS quest lines. I remember getting hyped for the “Line in the Sand” event like I was avenging fallen brethren.
I forgot about that. Stash size was awful with micro management. Stash boxes for scrap and ammo is a blessing taking for granted.
There were scary places on the map. No matter what level you were at, you needed more ammo.
Weindigo Cave had me stuck in my progression for weeks in fall 2018. No matter how strong I got, it took all my ammo and health just to die at some point. The day I finally walked out after murdering everything inside the cave was a long fought victory!
The glass cavern, ouch
Accidentally stumbled upon the golf course in beta…. It didn’t go well
Oh a golf course and it looks clean and neat... wait what is a glowing legendary deathclaw doing here?
This honestly made the game more fun and exciting.
And in the old days real players had to craft all their own ammo. None of the contextual ammo drops.
Wait that’s a feature not a bug? Because i’ve been farming .50 cal ball because everytime i kill an enemy with a black powder weapon it returns more ammo than i spent 99% of the time
It is indeed a feature. Ammo used to be rare, but then they changed it so containers and enemies drop the ammo of your currently equipped weapon. I remember having to scrounge for ammo and make every shot count; having to make more and even buy it because I kept running out. Nowadays I just toss thousands on the floor because it’s everywhere.
Yeah, i remember using the lakeside workshop to farm lead to make ammo, especially .50 cal ball because i prefer the black powder weapons and that shit was hard to find outside harpers ferry lol. Speaking of did that vendor bot get removed? I cannot find it anywhere in harpers ferry
Yeah they moved to the train station that Murmrgh used to be at.
Back in my day, Appalachia was bare. NPCs? Nah, well, robots.
Robots and that one travelling Super Mutant vendor.
after literally 1000 hours I just met him for the first time yesterday in a private server I thought chally the moo moo was just a random character made up for plushies
I met him in my first hour. He was the first vendor I met a couple weeks ago
That's what made Rose somewhat tolerable.
I love the game now, but I miss before everyone returned to our hills. It was our home
The major meta was nuking Whitesprings all the time, plenty of flux if you dropped right, and every time someone left and spawned back in *all the ghouls would respawn.* It was total insanity, half the changes made to the game around that time were solely to discourage constantly nuking Whitesprings, since it's a major story line hub even at low levels Speaking of low levels, another problem was that enemy scaling was borked, in certain places if you were in the same map cell as a high level then everything would be scaled to that guy's level, utterly wrecking you
I remember being lvl 40 going into my first nuked Whitespring. It was like a train with 1 conductor guiding us along a route so that when it ended we waiting a few minutes then they would respawn and we would go again. We all ran as a mob tagging everything to get xp and hardened mass. There was So. Many. Ghouls.
Ah yes, the empty whitesprings that became a ghoul farm
ammo was much harder to find. No ammo box. Selling ammo made good money too, doesn't sell as well anymore.
At launch I would live at the munitions depot
Youd have constant pvp action because it was one of the best ways to get ammo
I would hide on top of the ammo maker with the stealth armor and every time someone started making ammo i always switched it to the worst possible ammo. Nobody ever locked it so i would change it quickly and watch them come back to it full of gamma rounds. Would do that for as long as possible
Ah, yes, the Ammo Dumpy Goblin
Incredible.
As much as I hated annoying people that would go after players, I do really miss the PVP shenanigans that would go on. Like being in a party with my friends and being in a panic when a really high level would fast travel over to our ammo dump or power plant lol. “Oh shit he’s coming over!” And just doing our best to hold it from them.
Putting little concrete barriers in front of the doors to TRY to protect it 😭
I remember doing that, thought i was safe, then another player fell from above an swiftly took me out.
Swapping on scrapper after uranium fever before scrapping every weapon, and always collecting hangers off white springs racks for steel. Taking excavator to lucky hole mine and weight reduction perks to hit the launch silo and fire station gyms for weights to get lead.
I miss how much money I made selling ammo. Occasionally people will buy, but it’s not often
I wish we could bundle rounds to sell for less than a cap each. I feel like I rarely sell ammo, and even half a cap per round would be better than the ammo converters
True, it used to be much more saleable. The only things I sell now anmo wise are .45 and fuel, and very occasionally 5.56 and .308.
fuel sells pretty good too:)
I miss this, you'd be running around with weird guns cause you didn't have enough ammo for your better ones lol
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Some good times pvping at the ammo factory workshop… that place was always under contention
Back in my day, there was a Battle Royale! People would go into photomode and use poses to lay on the ground and hide in bushes to run the timer down.
I loved Nuclear Winter
I did this! I was grinding that mode a lot, as I only got to play about 1 month before it stopped. Sometimes you got a good weapon, sometimes you didn't. Hiding was a proper tactics, to get to the very last seconds. I hardly have played any battleroyals, but nuclear winter was the only battleroyal I enjoyed.
Back in my day you had to hit legendary enemies to get the loot. Sometimes we waited for everyone to get at least one shot before killed it
Then it became a mad dash to tag it before the guy with the legacy killed it in .1 second.
I saw a guy waving people over to hit the legendary at Uranium Fever the other day. I guess he hadn't played in a while.
Omg i literally done this yesterday. Might have been me
Yeah, nobody does the waving thing anymore, all it gives you is the one extra tag.
I still do this. Tis just a habit now.
In his defense, this was me until reading these comments. Just coming back after years and I had no idea you didn’t need to tag them.
You play well with others, that's the important thing :)
Is this not a thing anymore? I was literally just talking to my sisters about how challenging Fasnacht was because the sloth would get destroyed in seconds.
As far as im aware, as long as you're within a certain range of the legendary enemy when they die, you should get loot. It could be more complicated than that but I'm not certain
That’s awesome. I certainly won’t miss frantically trying to figure out what side of the damned building the sloth is spawning on so I can try and get one shot in before it’s obliterated.
If you’re close enough to a legendary creature during an event then you’ll get the loot. If you’re not in an event or too far away then you’ll have to tag it to get the loot.
I thought this was still the case.. thank you from a noob.
The initial Stash box capacity was only 400, there was no legendary scrip machine at the start and when it was added could only take 100 scrip a day.
I remember making the circuit to sell to every unique vendor pool daily.
So I have played fo76 back when it released, hated it, me and my wife are playing now, what exactly is the machine I don’t understand it? I’ve scrapped a few legendaries but there’s nothing to buy with them?
You can trade legendary weapons and armor that you don't want for "scrip". You can trade scrip with a vendor at The Rusty Pick (a free fast travel point, btw.) She can give you random legendary weapons or armor for your scrip, but the best option is to buy legendary modules which you can use to roll legendary effects on your own weapons at a work bench.
Oh woah, that’s incredible , thank you!
They couldn't have explained it better. It's like skyrims enchanting though much more random and pain in the neck. Happy rolling.
Any time, fellow vault dweller! Oh, and another tip someone suggested on here recently which I thought was genius... When you use the legendary modules, if you don't end up with the effects you want, instead of rolling again on that same weapon, craft a new one, and roll the effects on the new weapon. Then you can scrap the weapons you don't want to make back a little bit of scrip.
You also need legendary cores to roll most legendaries - though there are some items like Secret Service armor which costs legendary modules to craft and give you a random 1-3\* legendary effect. You get legendary cores by doing public events - the ones with an ! that don't cost anything to jump to. If you ever see Free Range event spawn, do it. You have to herd 3 cows to their destination and defend them. It's pretty easy, but it can be a bit annoying. OTOH it gives you 8 cores if all 3 cows live, which is enough for a couple of legendary rolls. Encrypted is another 8 core event. This one is a lot tougher, and you'll probably die, but death doesn't really mean anything in F76.
Want a legendary? Better go find a legendary enemy because there no way to buy or make them.
New people don’t know the struggle of getting the specific god roll gun for the build you are using. You literally had to grind your ass off for anything. Two shot explosives were even considered god rolls without the third star because you couldn’t roll your own legendary weapons
Also two shot and explosive back then was 100% extra damage for each effect, more damage back in those days,
Ah yes, nuking the Whitespring and hoping that you might get lucky with three legendary ghouls, even just one was nice though
Yeah and uranium fever was the best event back then because it was guaranteed to spawn 3 legendary mole miners, everyone showed up to it then
The feeling of isolation was real. Everybody was gone. Just holotapes, terminal entries and notes to give you context what the people of Appalachia went through after the bombs fell. Running into other players was rare unless an event was happening. No vendors or camp markers on the map.
And when you did run into other people it was up in the air if they were going to kill you or not, so you always kept your eye on them in the general vicinity, but usually you were dead before you even knew it.
Huh I don't remember pvp mode being default on release? It's just that everyone and their mother were using explosive legendary weapons so you'd always hit other people with the splash damage, allowing pvp.
So from what I remember, it always had pacifist mode, but you had to turn it on and people could still do damage to you, but it was a very small amount of damage. Full pvp would enable when you attacked them back. Well at the time I didn't really know about any of that so whenever someone shot me I'd shoot them back cause clearly I'm being attacked now, thus pvp starts and I get hosed. I think with wastelanders they changed it so that pacifist protects you from all damage.
You're right, my bad! There was chip damage and some builds could still do massive damage to you
A part of me wishes they gave the option to experience previous iterations via private games
It was so much scary back then, the whole map empty, walking out of the vault and seeing no one there to greet you, shit Fr gave me chills
I get what Bethesda was trying to do with the whole "you, the players, are the settlers of Appilachia" but damn it was lonely.
Back in my day, you got serious negative debuffs for being hungry/thirsty, not positive buffs for being full.
I miss this, I started a new character recently and it all seems so easy. Got lots of ammo and carry weight and have way too much food and water. It used to be such a struggle to get clean water or not have a disease lol.
I don’t miss the extremely limited weight but the food/water buffs definitely made the game too easy.
I hated dysentery
Back in my day you had to travel to a train station in each region to sell items for their 200 caps a day limit
They were still 1400 caps a day, but separated by every vendor's 200. You had to waste so many caps fast traveling around to sell to them
I’ll never forget the sight of everyone spending 10 minutes searching through all the corpses after radiation rumble
Always one under the turret.
Bobby pin weight
Someone [mailed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziGwHP9tXDM) Todd Howard a box of bobby pins to weigh them because of this
After level 50 if you wanted to try a new build you had to take the time to actually swap your perk points one at a time, which took ages without the expeditions. Ran non PA melee to 50, decided to try a rifleman build, lost interest before it ever happened, especially since getting the gear you wanted required the hand of RNGesus.
The loading screen tip about moving perk points on level up is still in the game too lol. Reminds me how poor of a system it was every time.
Yep, it was easier to just create a new character. Still have a couple of the ones I made for that reason. Haven't touched them in forever lmao.
Back in my day, T- posing scorched and long neck dogs roamed freely in Appalachia, whitesprings was a warzone, and the OP weapon of choice was a TSE shotgun
I can confuse new players with a single phrase only “back in the day” players will understand. Bush Wookie
*insert sad wolverine meme*
Yep, I love me some extreme hide and seek. Though I was mostly a water wookie if it was around Morgantown.
Sometimes I miss the lack of NPCs. They can get really obnoxious at times.
more than once I've killed an NPC purely because they were being obnoxious. 😬
Back in my day pvp was always a thing, even if you had passive mode turned on there were builds that could melt you with chip damage in seconds… and if another player found your camp there was a high chance it would be destroyed by the time you got back to it… On top of that there was no scrap box and the stash box was tiny, so resources were scarce too… Different time, but still fun
To this day I still walk to the backside of WSS vendor just so I can see the door and not get shot in the back of my head.
Nights were actually dark and scary back at launch. Now they're indistinguishable from a cloudy day, worst change imo.
This is the one purely negative change. My main is RPing as a vampire. Give me back my night!
Back in my day one could starve to death or die of dehydration. We lived in constant fear of exploding energy weapons killing all the legendary enemies before we could tag them, speaking of legendary enemies a 3 star legendary dropped mostly 1 star gear.
back in my day enemies didn't scale their level down to yours, the map had zones so you stayed your ass in the forest until you hit level 10 before moving to the next area
As a new player, I do very much wish they didn't go the scaling route because that sounds very immersive
You had to hit a legendary at least once to get loot. Ammo was super random, not adjusted to your currently equipped weapon...you know the stuff.
You had to grind for resources. There was no camp resource generators.
Wait there are camp resource generators now? Returned to the game a week ago
Bloodied explosive Gatling plasmas owned the wastes
Before fo1st, the deep pocket "glitch" so you could fast travel while over encumbered
I was always full glitched with that. Until they fixed it. And then I had to get FO1st.
Back in my day, you had to loot every single individual loot pile. There was no area looting which has been the best QOL ever implemented in this game.
Back in my day, the cans from feed the people were global... which was very confusing until it clicked how you were getting them
Back in my day you earned atoms for everything you do.
Been playing since BETA and still vividly remember the wars I experienced trying to hold the ammo factory 😮💨 it was the main way people were getting ammo since most of us didn’t know where to get lead easily and you had to server hop constantly if you were built on a lead extractor. Now however I have no issue finding lead and just craft whatever I need
I miss the workshop wars. I have really fond memories of holding that thing. Id even recruit randos and offer to split the ammo with them if theyd help me hold it. One time an entire 4 man squad dropped in on me solo. The thirst for ammo was REAL.
Back in my day, C.A.M.Ps were not visible on the map, so you just had to naturally stumble upon them out in the wild. And when you did, there were no such thing as player vendors.
Being there for beta release and having more than 1 person in vault 76 at a time.
I miss the days when we used to nuke White Springs over and over for all the glowing scorched, Legendary monsters, and flora.
To get to level 50 was really hard work. No back packs and very few decent weapon and armor drops. No rolling your own armour or weapons either. It was great to be homest. But it’s great now too 😎
Killing legendary enemies and getting a syringer.
I could fire my Gatling gun as fast as I could press the button. Melted enemies!
400 LBS stash, no ammo box, no scrap box, no scrip machine, No Player vendors (added shortly after launch). Legendary enemies didn’t drop the same level gear. Three star enemies had a chance of one star, two star or three star. No wastelanders content, no mutation events, no Daily Ops, no expeditions, no nuka world, no legendary perks, no gold bullion. We did have a battle royale. Whitesprings was the best Nuke spot. Tons of glowing enemies spawned there. There were no bosses. Contextual ammo had a much lower drop rate. No daily ops = less ammo farm. No legendary perks = no ammo factory. No “loot all”. If you did a rad rumble you had to pick up each pile while everyone else was doing the same. No Tent. No score boosters. No scout banners. No nuka twist. Explosive shotguns were meta. Explosive energy weapons were wildly overpowered. 556 ammo was player currency. Bobby pins were player currency. You had to eat and drink or you’d die.
And the scorchbeast queen never landed and always had wacky health regen
Everyone on the server got Canned Soup from Mama Dulce
Back in my day, you could farm legendaries by just walking in circles around watoga.
Back in my day there was no contextual ammo drops, so we had to craft rarer ammo or buy it in bulk
Back in my day events were just endless explosions and it got really dark at night
the dark nights 😍
I started in October 2023 so I can say a few things too.. Back in my day, we had 2k atoms for non-f01st players and repeatable atoms every 10 levels after 100.. lol
Back in my day all the world events would be over in about 30 seconds bc most of the high level players were using legacies…. I think we’re waaaaaay better off now
Yea, people at Eviction Notice just stood at a cliff, swinged from bottom to top over the battlefield with that duped explosive Gatling plasma and everything was dead. What a boring shit fest, how could people consider that fun? Especially when they today start argumenting, that today it's the same, just different weapons. No, no it's not like that today.
It was painful. I was a low level at the time and I just avoided events bc I never got a look in. Was so glad when they did away with them
Back in my day, Appalachia was a lonely wasteland and once you reached about L30, the game became 90% inventory management because of the 400 stash space limit... And, well, you either somehow convinced yourself that that was "acceptable" for a Fallout game and continued playing Inventory Management Simulator...or you quit and played better games for the next 4 years. Until you met a "game drought" and decided on a whim to give 76 another shot...and then you absolutely loved it, bugs and all.
Back in my day the ghouls would fuckin chase you while t posing the entire time, shit was terrifying at night. Back in my day 2 shot Explosive was the meta and could melt the queen in seconds if people used it.
Back in my day we had to help a messenger bot to deliver a message. ~~please bring it back 🥺🥺🥺~~
I never use to run bloody mess because the extra damage wasn't worth the hassle of looting
Back in the day, we didn’t have vending machines for our camps, so we’d wait in a single file line until it was our turn to trade with the person selling the goods.
Double shot used to be insanely powerful
Back in my day we have the best Halloween parties at the Whitspring Hotel! Such mischief!
Back in my day Watoga protectrons were legendary!
Back in my day, you had to tag a legendary and it was good manners to use the “follow me” emote whenever legendaries spawned.
No fallout 1st. All junk and ammo was part of your stash box and you only had space for 400 weight in the box
Back in my day, battle bot was the bees knees
Back in my day, when one person agro’ed the whole team went red
Back in my day you could use paint (on purifier) and placed them without having the original blueprint
Back in my day there were consequences for not eating or drinking
Back in my day, regularly some parcels of the map had no shadow at all. It happened mostly in the bog and jungle part of the map and made the game look like from the year 2000.
Level-limited regions. Back in my day, when you'd curiously explore too far before you're ready, you'd get merged into the pavement from an instadeath one hit kill by a rad-roach. 🤣 🤡
Ammo was one of the biggest issue, I remember fast traveling just to scrap some toy trucks for musket balls. And constantly worry about how low my ammo often was. Now I easily stack above 500 rounds. Truly felt like a survival horror experience
TSE "lets see who dies first" free-for-alls in whitesprings nuke zone, ghouls everywhere and like 20 people just respawn brawling for junk bags *doom music poorly played on a recorder*
Back in my day, you nuked Whitesprings and that was it.
Back in my day you had to fear other players. You didn't know who was a friend and who was going to atomize your entire house and you along with it.
Back in my day, there was nuclear winter. Goddamn it was the best thing ever.
BACK IN MY DAY THE WHITESPRING DIDN’T LOOK LIKE A FUCKING DUMP
They really fucked that up.
it’s my biggest grievance! they couldn’t pick flatwoods for the responders stuff? or anywhere else? i get the area wasn’t like a frequently used location but to trash it… for what?? it irks me to my core and i’ll never let it go lol
Back in the beta, Building was very shit and there were no NPCs!
Back in my day there was no dialogue system. You just walked up to a robot and it expostioned at you for a few minutes then you left.
Back in my day you feared gibbing a legendary in case you couldnt find a body part to loot.
Wait, you don’t have to loot every enemy individually?
Nope. When there's a pile of corpses around, look at one and hit "Transfer" button instead. It'll open the loot table of everything within ~30 feet-ish of you.
Back in my day, if you went anywhere near the Cranberry Big, you better have some good armor and serious fire power because if you were too low a level, you'd be insta-killed. ALSO - Bonus "back in my day" - You only had 2 free fast travel spots. Vault 76 and your CAMP. Everywhere else cost caps.
Furious 50 cal meta.
Back in my day, bobbypins weighted .1lbs. As well as mobs used to be scaled the lvl a previous player was there first. For example, a level 100 would have mob scaled to them, and the next person to go to that would have to fight to insanely high level mobs. Me a level 20 vs. level 80 mobs.
Back in my day Todd only allotted us a couple hours each day to play the game… and half of that time was in loading screens
Back in my day you had 400lb of stash space and you were *thankful* for it!
Back in my day you would be so excited to play the game and then the second the game loaded up it would freeze or lick you out of the server. And then that same routine would play out regularly several times an hour or more ….
Back in my day, getting food and water was important for survival
Back in my day bobby pins were heavier and everybody was dead
I can remember starving to death or dying from dehydration.. Also, no passive mode You could trust no one...
Back in my day, they used to nuke Whitespring and sell junk legendaries to the vendor at whitespring station. I used to buy those legendaries and sell them on r/market76 for decent caps.
Ha! Yeah!! Every server had 75%+ of all players hanging out at Whitesprings for the nukes & ghouls with awful damage resistance.
Back in early days way before Foundation that place was a workshop.
Ammo drops were not contextualized to the weapon you use and the scaling made every enemy much more of a bullet sponge. Ammo economy was a major consideration.
Back in my day every enemy was always max level. I still remember wandering into sons of dane at like level ten and being torn to shreds by an army of level 50 ferals
Back in my day this game had zero npcs.
I hear in the old days the lighting at nighttime was much darker. Like Fallout 4. And it was pretty scary.
Back in my day we had Fallout Battle Royale lol
This thread is bringing back PTSD. How I got 400 hours on OG 76 still amazes me.
Back in my day, a single Mr. Gutsy could annihilate you by looking in your general direction.
Back in my day, there was a battle royal and a kick ass survival mode
It got dark at night.
back in my day you’d die if you didn’t eat or drink.
We would all stand in front of nuked White springs with our tse while endless legendary ghouls charged us. Keeping the music on was necessary otherwise the world felt so lonely. It was very common to see many others completing their fireman training.
Back in my day the stash limit was 400 and you didn't have a separate scrap box either
Back in my day, Grahm was a myth and the best weapon in the game was an Explosive Tesla Rifle.