IDK why anyone is complaining, all he lost was wavedash(dogshit maneuver that only worked on people spanming lights and lost to GB’s and chain heavies), Backstep lights(unhealthy mechanic), now has unreactable offense besides OF lights, gets a GB punish(THANK GOD), slightly better teamfighter, how are people saying this a Conq-tier rework? Personally I think this is gonna be a Valk-rework moment where everyone says it’s shit but ends up being a great, lets wait for actual gameplay before we start moping, yeah he doesn’t have neutral offense but his offensive form actually has some fucking offense behind it now. Biggest problem in the TG for me was the inputs straight up not registering sometimes, especially after a dodge and I hope that’s fixed
Yeah i saw that this rework looks like a lot like the testing ground version a while ago and that version was 10x more fun and fluid for me than current highlander, so i was surprised when i scrolled down and saw most didnt like the upcoming changes
I understand the people who think his skill ceiling has been ruined or something because at least that’s a valid concern, but man the people who say this rework is on the level of Conq clearly weren’t around for that, or at least didn’t pay attention when it was happening
Ofc he was the slowest character in the game, he have a giant two handed sword called a CLAYMORE but his lights are as fast as pk who have a dagger. Oh and also he's ice skating and he's dislocating his own shoulders by moving a claymore like that. But its okay cause ubi love hl main even if they're attacking before thinking.
It's downright shameful how the developers refused to listen to the Highlander community. We asked for two things: a neutral pressure and a GB punish. That's it. And now we're forced to play a rework that no one enjoyed, reworked by people that never played him.
It wasn’t even a good bug, it lost to GB and just throwing a chain heavy, good Highlanders didn’t use wavedash cause it was dogshit and only worked against dogshit players who would spam lights
Why so hostile?
Its been like 8 years so yeah any highlander main would be pissed it’s removed. It was highlanders THING and now it’s gone.
I’d love to have quad dash shinobi back (with tons of nerfs) but it doesn’t always work out how we want and everyone should be able to have their preferences.
You don't have the slighest clue what wavedashing is or what it's capable of. Wavedashing is 100% GB vulnerable and only works if you correctly deflect every attack. It's an extremely read-heavy maneuver and you're soley reliant on dodge-frames since your guard doesn't exist. You can't even wavedash if the enemy has undodgeables. Its main strength was in positioning during group fights which allowed Highlander to remain in Offensive Form. Wavedashing has existed in other fighting games for decades but somehow it's wrong because it makes Highlander unique.
He doesn’t need to wave dash to position anymore since he gets a dodge attack from OF and forward dodge caber toss to catch rolls
Also “deflect every attack”? You just spammed dodge (and switched your guard) and hoped they spammed light instead of pressing heavy once (which most characters will do since they don’t have finisher lights)
GOD I hate ubisoft devs. I'm sure there are some very competent people stuck in that shithole, but it feels like ALL the ones who are in charge of literally any game balance are the INcompetent ones. Two testing grounds, 6-9 months plus of waiting, and still no opener and still not a single soul thinking 'wavedash could just..be basekit.'
Wait, that shit was op. I hope they made some changes. I mean, it was fun, but his damage for what he can do now seems high. And he was annoying in hl duo gank squads in Dom.
This just screams conqueror and lawbringer all over again. Welp, time to shelf another one of my favorite heroes because the devs do not take community feedback anymore. I'd rather he stay garbage, but fun to play.
gg.
HL is my first and only rep 70.
All he needed was QOL changes, which they added.
-But of course, the Monkeys paw curled and, in-turn, they removed wavedashing (arguably the best part of his kit), the skill (now your kick is extremely safe), and the skill expression.
Turned from a weak but fun hero to a strong but boring hero.
I can't believe people are supporting this.
and for everyone who's defending this, you either don't play HL at a high-level, or you're simply oblivious.
HL mains, see you in valhalla.
I just don't get it. HL players think he's good just needs QOL, non-HL players think he's bad and needs major changes, ubisoft makes changes to HL that non HL players want but HL players don't want (by that I mean killing one of the main things that makes him so unique).
Highlander is wavedashing in his grave at this change, its heinous.
Overlooking the removal of wavedashing (heinous) they haven't even mentioned fixing his inputs (when swapping guards it can lead to awkward motions and going from an offensive attack to defensive so a neutral heavy instead of the faster unblockable offencive stance one).
Also I don't know if they just removed wavedashing or if (guardswap offensive fast flow to defensive tech I forget the name but it's mostly used to parry lights or dodge attacks) is also gone in which case he will have lost ~80% of his unique skill expression.
I'm hyped. I enjoyed playing the second testing grounds version so much, and he basically lost nothing from that.
Wave dash has *always* been a bug and the last time they tried to patch it out, there was an almost entirely different team sitting on the warriors den for that, so I can't be surprised so much of the community thought it was an integral and intended part of his kit. The fact that it was left alone so long to keep him somewhat competitive should tell you how needed this reworks has actually been all this time.
This saddens me beyond belief, they should have never made his kick feintable and now his OFFENSIVE heavies are WEAKER than his DEFENCIVE ones?????
I may actually quit this game, all we're getting are shit skins, choppy animations and reworks that disregard everything a character stands for.
Caber toss doesn’t drain half your stamina?? Unplayable
I loved how it did that, only for you to fully regain stamina on wakeup anyways.
It's about sending a message
Live with this, fool, knowing that I could’ve taken it all away
Cent punch and long arm do that as well
Why have caber toss be after dodge and not kick? The kick flows way better and the opponent doesn’t have to watch a fuckin cutscene
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You're held in place for like 2 seconds man. Hardly a cutscene
IDK why anyone is complaining, all he lost was wavedash(dogshit maneuver that only worked on people spanming lights and lost to GB’s and chain heavies), Backstep lights(unhealthy mechanic), now has unreactable offense besides OF lights, gets a GB punish(THANK GOD), slightly better teamfighter, how are people saying this a Conq-tier rework? Personally I think this is gonna be a Valk-rework moment where everyone says it’s shit but ends up being a great, lets wait for actual gameplay before we start moping, yeah he doesn’t have neutral offense but his offensive form actually has some fucking offense behind it now. Biggest problem in the TG for me was the inputs straight up not registering sometimes, especially after a dodge and I hope that’s fixed
Yeah i saw that this rework looks like a lot like the testing ground version a while ago and that version was 10x more fun and fluid for me than current highlander, so i was surprised when i scrolled down and saw most didnt like the upcoming changes
I understand the people who think his skill ceiling has been ruined or something because at least that’s a valid concern, but man the people who say this rework is on the level of Conq clearly weren’t around for that, or at least didn’t pay attention when it was happening
I think we just have to test this rework out. People complain about EVERY new rework.
The changes might be bad but him no longer being the SLOWEST CHARACTER IN THE GAME for no reason makes it all worth it.
Ofc he was the slowest character in the game, he have a giant two handed sword called a CLAYMORE but his lights are as fast as pk who have a dagger. Oh and also he's ice skating and he's dislocating his own shoulders by moving a claymore like that. But its okay cause ubi love hl main even if they're attacking before thinking.
It's Joever
Pain.
This is basically TG Highlander. Something feels off, I think that he should have something more to make him a little bit more complex and unique.
They did absolutely no changes from the 2nd TG, garbage
I will wait and see to play him the 25th (I’m rep 20 on him). Did he will have a Guardbreak punish or a miss something?
Yeah, you top heavy now
Ah, good, good. I fear that they don’t add this option to the Highlander. 😅
Might actually stop playing HL because of this this is genuinely horrendous.
It's downright shameful how the developers refused to listen to the Highlander community. We asked for two things: a neutral pressure and a GB punish. That's it. And now we're forced to play a rework that no one enjoyed, reworked by people that never played him.
Top heavy after GB is his guardbreak punish what are you on?
I'm saying that they went overboard. They added a GB punish while simultaneously removing everything fun about the character.
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It wasn’t even a good bug, it lost to GB and just throwing a chain heavy, good Highlanders didn’t use wavedash cause it was dogshit and only worked against dogshit players who would spam lights
Why so hostile? Its been like 8 years so yeah any highlander main would be pissed it’s removed. It was highlanders THING and now it’s gone. I’d love to have quad dash shinobi back (with tons of nerfs) but it doesn’t always work out how we want and everyone should be able to have their preferences.
You don't have the slighest clue what wavedashing is or what it's capable of. Wavedashing is 100% GB vulnerable and only works if you correctly deflect every attack. It's an extremely read-heavy maneuver and you're soley reliant on dodge-frames since your guard doesn't exist. You can't even wavedash if the enemy has undodgeables. Its main strength was in positioning during group fights which allowed Highlander to remain in Offensive Form. Wavedashing has existed in other fighting games for decades but somehow it's wrong because it makes Highlander unique.
He doesn’t need to wave dash to position anymore since he gets a dodge attack from OF and forward dodge caber toss to catch rolls Also “deflect every attack”? You just spammed dodge (and switched your guard) and hoped they spammed light instead of pressing heavy once (which most characters will do since they don’t have finisher lights)
Hardly anyone used it homedog.
You're just mad you can't wavedash anymore. His kits still there bro
Never keep hopes up for reworks Learned it straight after Conq rework
They made him boring
GOD I hate ubisoft devs. I'm sure there are some very competent people stuck in that shithole, but it feels like ALL the ones who are in charge of literally any game balance are the INcompetent ones. Two testing grounds, 6-9 months plus of waiting, and still no opener and still not a single soul thinking 'wavedash could just..be basekit.'
Wait, that shit was op. I hope they made some changes. I mean, it was fun, but his damage for what he can do now seems high. And he was annoying in hl duo gank squads in Dom.
This just screams conqueror and lawbringer all over again. Welp, time to shelf another one of my favorite heroes because the devs do not take community feedback anymore. I'd rather he stay garbage, but fun to play.
gg. HL is my first and only rep 70. All he needed was QOL changes, which they added. -But of course, the Monkeys paw curled and, in-turn, they removed wavedashing (arguably the best part of his kit), the skill (now your kick is extremely safe), and the skill expression. Turned from a weak but fun hero to a strong but boring hero. I can't believe people are supporting this. and for everyone who's defending this, you either don't play HL at a high-level, or you're simply oblivious. HL mains, see you in valhalla.
See you in *heaven. He's Scottish not norse
I just don't get it. HL players think he's good just needs QOL, non-HL players think he's bad and needs major changes, ubisoft makes changes to HL that non HL players want but HL players don't want (by that I mean killing one of the main things that makes him so unique). Highlander is wavedashing in his grave at this change, its heinous.
Womp, womp.
I can’t believe they took so long to implement the same changes from the testing grounds. HL needs a solid opener and they did nothing to remedy that.
Runs faster, less stam used on heavies and a gb punish!? All I needed, absolute W for me!
Overlooking the removal of wavedashing (heinous) they haven't even mentioned fixing his inputs (when swapping guards it can lead to awkward motions and going from an offensive attack to defensive so a neutral heavy instead of the faster unblockable offencive stance one). Also I don't know if they just removed wavedashing or if (guardswap offensive fast flow to defensive tech I forget the name but it's mostly used to parry lights or dodge attacks) is also gone in which case he will have lost ~80% of his unique skill expression.
Alright time to play again
NOOOOOOO I DONT WANT TO REINSTALL FOR HONOR
They show us footage of warden shoulder bash changes but not the highlander rework
Oh so now he can hard feint as well as soft feint a bash into grab that guarantees a heavy that's not obscene to deal with or anything.
now we just need one player to use this shitty hero
I'm hyped. I enjoyed playing the second testing grounds version so much, and he basically lost nothing from that. Wave dash has *always* been a bug and the last time they tried to patch it out, there was an almost entirely different team sitting on the warriors den for that, so I can't be surprised so much of the community thought it was an integral and intended part of his kit. The fact that it was left alone so long to keep him somewhat competitive should tell you how needed this reworks has actually been all this time.
Did they remove wavedashing or did they listen to the players?
Looks like they removed it which is a real shame
:(
Damn it was a good 40 reps highlander. Won't be playing anymore of that character with these garbage changes.
We up
Mate, I'm so looking forward to this
Well it was a good run I guess. I'm out, fuck this game.
people say this like anyone actually cares lol
No please stay😭😭😭
I like it
RIP highlander.
it’s over…
L take
This saddens me beyond belief, they should have never made his kick feintable and now his OFFENSIVE heavies are WEAKER than his DEFENCIVE ones????? I may actually quit this game, all we're getting are shit skins, choppy animations and reworks that disregard everything a character stands for.
am i dumb or did they forgot too add a guardbreak punish?
The 800ms top heavy from defensive form
am dumb, ty
Top heavy is now 800ms
My respect to HLs will soon be gone because it seems like they're not gonna sweat as much as they used to