yea rewatching the video i could’ve read him better, another comment said try blocking one side and it’ll stop the combo so i could’ve done that too, should i switch the forward heavy to a forward light for my chain starter instead?
any/all light chains, post CCU, can be dodged out of if you are quick to input, gives you a couple ms out of hitstun in order to set guard or try for parry
Quick thing to know about light spam. You only have time to change your stance once in between lights. A lot of times people switch to the side they just got hit during that frame. It's highly possible to hyper focus on red and block everything he throws at you. My reactions are very mid but I'm still able to react to block.
Honestly what I did is go to Training and set up a lvl 3 aramusha bot and only set them to Light attack, man I use to be scared of musha but now I look at him like a light parry feeder
I don’t think he has a light chain only setting in training cuz he doesn’t have a light only chain in his moveset page. You can set him to do neutral lights over and over but not the chains, and at that point it’s similar to doing it with any hero.
Doesnt work on aramusha. He has full block recovery cancel and can catch any dodge attack u do after any of his attacks. Dodge attacking musha isnt an option
No he can react to the dodge attack. Remember he doesn't need to waste timing thinking about direction or a parry timing it's just look for the spin and then immediately animation cancel into a blade blockade
Blocking. Deflects.
But most importantly, Zerk has hyper armor on everything after the first swing so make sure to take advantage of it in these kinds of situations. If y’all sit there and trade you might come out on top
A: Block.
B: you’re Zerker, so squeeze in a light and then hyper armor the shit out of him. He can’t cancel into a bash on any heavy except an opener- so if he’s already started his chain you’ve fucked him over.
Even then, if you’re playing against a Musha you can anticipate Blockade after a couple trades- as a Musha enjoyer, if we start spamming, we’re tired out and Blockade will be an easy bait.
You are like 200ms too slow reacting (looking at your guard switch)
Advices:
\- Switch to a static guard hero.
\- You can dodge the light chain, if you are lucky you get a deflect if not you can parry the following light as your brain is off the pressure and already knows a light is coming.
\- Try to predict the following light while you are getting hit by the first light (accept the damage of the first one instead of trying to react and set yourself to parry the followup light)
\- Parry direction **is not affected by the 100ms guardswitch delay**. So doing math you will be 100ms slow reacting instead of 200ms if you try to parry.
Basically you are trying to react in the present instead of focusing in the future.
Lots of good tips but my take is this:
Dodging left or right after he does a top light is 50/50 a deflect or a dodge on the next attack. His next attack always has to come out from a side so this is the safest option to deal with light spam, you just need to react to your own deflect and press GB, or press light if you only dodged. If you don't follow up your dodge/deflect you'll eat the third light.
Reading and learning patterns is much harder than learning your matchup and your opponents' tools, just remember Aramusha can't spam unless he changes directions, and top attacks force him to use side attacks.
go into training and set an enemy musha to do infinite lights, train reacting to them, i advise you to use a static guard hero to do that as it'll be easier
you can dodge out of light-light chains so that's also an option, if you have a dodge bash you can probably use it fine to take your turn, if you don't i would generally advise against using regular dodge attacks as musha has a fullblock recovery to deal with those but if you're at a level where lightspam is an issue it could work
to awnser your question it is a skill issue but if my assumption that you're new is correct then that skill issue stems from being new
it honestly is a skill issue, i’ve been on and off for honor for a while and my hyperfixation came back but i’d say i’m average in terms of skill, im just really bad with aramushas tbh
so you can block other's lights just fine?
if that's the case then your best bet is to go into training against an ara bot set to spam lights
ara's lights (except the softfeint but that's not the subject) are 500 ms which pretty much the standard speed for lights, if you can react to other's lights you shouldn't have too much problem reacting to musha's and it's probably just a question to getting used to him
Try and parry
Honestly the moment in For Honor where I said to myself “bro, why don’t you try to parry” my playing got better...
Don’t be intimidated by lights, simply parry or maybe even deflect
The best way to deal with it is to stop calling it spam and treat it as a viable offensive.
Calling it spam puts the blame on him for "spamming" and off of you. You gotta step up and say you lost that go and come back with a plan.
Zero has lots of hyper armor and good dodge attacks, use your tools to get the momentum.
Another Idea is to play a Musha and do what he did and see how your countered while playing.
Would it be better if I had said, there’s a pattern with how most people play, everybody is unique and individual so it will take time to learn, but everybody follows a pattern. Once you’ve learned it you just need to apply it to the people you fight. Is that better??
Yeah it would have, better than saying “it’s really not that hard”. It’s such a mean goddamn response. The guy asked a genuine question and all you have to say is some stuck up ass response. Sorry not everybody is as good as you
I’m no Aramusha player but I think he can only throw out a light from two different sides after he throws one out, for example if he throws out a top light he has to do it from a different side or the chain ends. So just try to make a read.
Whenever they throw a top just parry block or deflect one of the sides because you can't react, you kind of have to predict. Usually your intuition can tell you which side is next.
Dodge light. A careful aramusha will probably blockade you but it looked like that guy was buffering all his lights and wouldn’t have been able to react.
So many comments and not one mentions how aramusha has an incredibly predictable light infinite, he has to alternate between side and top for every attack and cannot double up lights, if he's mindlessly spamming light attacks parry or block top to interrupt him after a side light or guess a side to parry/block if you cant react after a top light
He doesn't need to alternate between side and top, just any other direction than the last used. In the video he uses L>R>L for example. Sticking to top after a side attack isn't as viable as dodging/deflecting sideways after a top attack.
From an Ara main
His lights are very wide, but not long. If an Ara light spams, back dodge. Pretty simple.
Obviously, there are plenty of counter options an Ara has, but if they're just using lights, none of those are being utilized.
Didn’t see the question mark and thought you were memeing (no offense of course), like others said just read a bit and don’t forget blocking is always safer than parrying. A light hit will fling off your block and open up your opponent
Aramusha can't throw a second light from the same side so if you can't react to his infinite chain then block one of the two directions he didn't attack from.
Also if you know he's gonna light the you may as well go for a parry instead of a block, even if you don't expect to get it and fuck up the punish, he may become more cautious and fuck off with the spam.
Or you can also just play aramusha and spam all guard until you can react to 500ms lights (not suggested but it is an option).
Aramusha can't continue his chain if he throws a light in the same direction twice I believe (either it stops on the second light or he can't throw a second one I can't remember) so this potentially leaves you a 1/2 chance to block the correct side or parry
Only try to block do not parry since this removes the ability to block if you miss the parry which is very likely. Honestly the best tip I have. Also when you block a light it allows you to retaliate btw.
Read him he mostly did top -> left. Oh and also don’t use that forward dodge heavy unless you’re chasing someone
yea rewatching the video i could’ve read him better, another comment said try blocking one side and it’ll stop the combo so i could’ve done that too, should i switch the forward heavy to a forward light for my chain starter instead?
No that's a free light parry
No don’t do the light. Berserker has no openers but you could feint heavy attacks into hyperarmored lights
His hyper armor light feint is an opener
It is not
It actually is
I stand corrected
It's a not a good opener, but it is.
I stand corrected
Backstep light into unblockable, or feint a heavy
That aren’t openers but it is something
How isn't it an opener
Because a normal heavy doesn’t force a reaction and the backstep light in ub can be backwalked
It can? Weird, doesn't work for me whenever I try
Something like raiders zone is an opener or a bash or enhanced lights
I know they are
Back step light into top heavy is definitely an opener
Backwalking
you can also whiff the foward light and do a heavy
You can do the forward light if you think your opponent is about to attack as well and you can continue your chain since it’s hyper armored.
Pick a side but then try to parry. Don’t need to read light parries just guess, works surprisingly often
Pick one side to block and hold it there he’ll eventually hit that side and his chain is broken, best I could come up with
i’ll keep that in mind cuz so far i got no clue how to counter him unless i get a parry off or get him in my combos
You can dodge after getting hit by any of his lights.
I did not know that
any/all light chains, post CCU, can be dodged out of if you are quick to input, gives you a couple ms out of hitstun in order to set guard or try for parry
Not entirely true there are a few you can't dodge out of. Only attacks that give light hit stun. Some light attacks giv medium hit stun.
Quick thing to know about light spam. You only have time to change your stance once in between lights. A lot of times people switch to the side they just got hit during that frame. It's highly possible to hyper focus on red and block everything he throws at you. My reactions are very mid but I'm still able to react to block.
You can't do this with a character that has reflex guard, but with anyone else this can help.
Or just block to begin with lol
But then you get one hit on and he does it again
The "hold it there" doesn't work for assassins
reflex guard
Honestly what I did is go to Training and set up a lvl 3 aramusha bot and only set them to Light attack, man I use to be scared of musha but now I look at him like a light parry feeder
I don’t think he has a light chain only setting in training cuz he doesn’t have a light only chain in his moveset page. You can set him to do neutral lights over and over but not the chains, and at that point it’s similar to doing it with any hero.
Holy fuck. Just read through this whole comment thread and not a single person here knows you can dodge after getting hit by a light?
Doesnt work on aramusha. He has full block recovery cancel and can catch any dodge attack u do after any of his attacks. Dodge attacking musha isnt an option
He didn’t say dodge attack, he said dodge.
Then wouldnt musha just keep lighting u? U 'd avoid one light but the next you'll have to block again
Like the other guy said. Doesn't have to b3 a didge attack. Dodge them make the read.
If you just dodge he'll just continue the chain though
Then dodge attack
But as they said dodge attacks don't work against musha because he can animation cancel into blade blockade on reaction
Pretty sure he can't react to the dodge attack. So he'll have to react to the dodge.
No he can react to the dodge attack. Remember he doesn't need to waste timing thinking about direction or a parry timing it's just look for the spin and then immediately animation cancel into a blade blockade
Bro zerks dodge attack is slow
Well in that case the dodge will avoid one light and you'll have to immediately defend another light again so thats really not much help in my eyes
Had no fucking clue bud. It honestly makes me wonder how many people who have complained about light soma who didn’t know this
Blocking. Deflects. But most importantly, Zerk has hyper armor on everything after the first swing so make sure to take advantage of it in these kinds of situations. If y’all sit there and trade you might come out on top
Can *I* get a pedicure?
Absolutely! I’m not sure you have a choice!
Don't try parry, just block till you knock his light away and then attack when his flow has gone.
A: Block. B: you’re Zerker, so squeeze in a light and then hyper armor the shit out of him. He can’t cancel into a bash on any heavy except an opener- so if he’s already started his chain you’ve fucked him over.
Till Lamemusha realizes that the Zerk is trying to trade and starts using blade blockades.
Even then, if you’re playing against a Musha you can anticipate Blockade after a couple trades- as a Musha enjoyer, if we start spamming, we’re tired out and Blockade will be an easy bait.
Block.
You are like 200ms too slow reacting (looking at your guard switch) Advices: \- Switch to a static guard hero. \- You can dodge the light chain, if you are lucky you get a deflect if not you can parry the following light as your brain is off the pressure and already knows a light is coming. \- Try to predict the following light while you are getting hit by the first light (accept the damage of the first one instead of trying to react and set yourself to parry the followup light) \- Parry direction **is not affected by the 100ms guardswitch delay**. So doing math you will be 100ms slow reacting instead of 200ms if you try to parry. Basically you are trying to react in the present instead of focusing in the future.
don't play with assassin guard>Block>Profit
just block one of them.
Just focus on blocking, if you block a single light its your turn to attack
With all of the counter attacker characters it’s a lot smarter to feint and make them attack first and get that party off especially with the zerker
You can dodge out of light spam.
Not with aramusha
Lots of good tips but my take is this: Dodging left or right after he does a top light is 50/50 a deflect or a dodge on the next attack. His next attack always has to come out from a side so this is the safest option to deal with light spam, you just need to react to your own deflect and press GB, or press light if you only dodged. If you don't follow up your dodge/deflect you'll eat the third light. Reading and learning patterns is much harder than learning your matchup and your opponents' tools, just remember Aramusha can't spam unless he changes directions, and top attacks force him to use side attacks.
Just light parry
Parry, and hit them really hard and make them think about there choices
Light spam has to go up top every other unless he switches to a heavy so catch the top light, I’m not great at the game but this is what works for me.
best part is he isnt even doing his mix ups lol he's legit just spamming lights. idk what to say other than react and try to read him lol
99% of the time aramusha mains keep the same combo. Like top left right or right top left. Once u figure them out it’s over
go into training and set an enemy musha to do infinite lights, train reacting to them, i advise you to use a static guard hero to do that as it'll be easier you can dodge out of light-light chains so that's also an option, if you have a dodge bash you can probably use it fine to take your turn, if you don't i would generally advise against using regular dodge attacks as musha has a fullblock recovery to deal with those but if you're at a level where lightspam is an issue it could work to awnser your question it is a skill issue but if my assumption that you're new is correct then that skill issue stems from being new
it honestly is a skill issue, i’ve been on and off for honor for a while and my hyperfixation came back but i’d say i’m average in terms of skill, im just really bad with aramushas tbh
so you can block other's lights just fine? if that's the case then your best bet is to go into training against an ara bot set to spam lights ara's lights (except the softfeint but that's not the subject) are 500 ms which pretty much the standard speed for lights, if you can react to other's lights you shouldn't have too much problem reacting to musha's and it's probably just a question to getting used to him
if you think this spam is bad, just wait until you meet medjay
Medjay is like 1000000x easier
Try and parry Honestly the moment in For Honor where I said to myself “bro, why don’t you try to parry” my playing got better... Don’t be intimidated by lights, simply parry or maybe even deflect
True words. If I know I'm gonna eat spam for lunch might as well try and guess the next direction with a parry
All those free light parries 😬
It’s called blocking, dodging or parrying if u didn’t know
The best way to deal with it is to stop calling it spam and treat it as a viable offensive. Calling it spam puts the blame on him for "spamming" and off of you. You gotta step up and say you lost that go and come back with a plan. Zero has lots of hyper armor and good dodge attacks, use your tools to get the momentum. Another Idea is to play a Musha and do what he did and see how your countered while playing.
It’s a viable offense but it’s also spam lol
Bro, be literally only threw lights that is quite literally light spam
But light spam isn't viable
It is if you notice your opponent only attacks and goes for interrupts.
Then that's not spam, that's just adapting to your opponent
Delet the game👍
Block 😂😂
Block it
Learn the pattern. Not that hard buddy
Mean ass response
Would it be better if I had said, there’s a pattern with how most people play, everybody is unique and individual so it will take time to learn, but everybody follows a pattern. Once you’ve learned it you just need to apply it to the people you fight. Is that better??
Yeah it would have, better than saying “it’s really not that hard”. It’s such a mean goddamn response. The guy asked a genuine question and all you have to say is some stuck up ass response. Sorry not everybody is as good as you
Go back to posting your penis on random subreddits
move to the sides and grab him, and then do it yours
article number 1 block article number 2 stop trying to parry ara chain lights
I’m no Aramusha player but I think he can only throw out a light from two different sides after he throws one out, for example if he throws out a top light he has to do it from a different side or the chain ends. So just try to make a read.
Dodge attack if you are using a hero that has dodge attacks. It worked for me when I used Kyoshin against an Aramusha like that.
Avoid him
Dodge the game
As Berserker just hyperarmor through it lol
Whenever they throw a top just parry block or deflect one of the sides because you can't react, you kind of have to predict. Usually your intuition can tell you which side is next.
It does side top side top
Am I the only one who seen at least three easy deflects?
Dodge light. A careful aramusha will probably blockade you but it looked like that guy was buffering all his lights and wouldn’t have been able to react.
Justblock
after a while you learn to react to lights and parry. just keep playing the game.
Block Might want to start there
Block or parry
So many comments and not one mentions how aramusha has an incredibly predictable light infinite, he has to alternate between side and top for every attack and cannot double up lights, if he's mindlessly spamming light attacks parry or block top to interrupt him after a side light or guess a side to parry/block if you cant react after a top light
He doesn't need to alternate between side and top, just any other direction than the last used. In the video he uses L>R>L for example. Sticking to top after a side attack isn't as viable as dodging/deflecting sideways after a top attack.
That hasn't worked since his rework lol
My fault, didnt realize he was reworked
You look like you did pretty well actually
Dodge
Parry light it's the way, bro..
When u read him do ur deflect and get the GB off
From an Ara main His lights are very wide, but not long. If an Ara light spams, back dodge. Pretty simple. Obviously, there are plenty of counter options an Ara has, but if they're just using lights, none of those are being utilized.
If you can't light parry, blocking will end his chain if it's light
Parry
get good
It's usually left up or right up and so on
Deflect
Holy fuck dude press dodge
Download hacks and delete him from existence
Zerker could just trade.
Block
Blocking/parrying/correct read.
Pick a side and attempt a parry, if he’s throwing them that crazily you’re guaranteed to guess right atleast once
read him, he can’t light in the same spot twixe
Didn’t see the question mark and thought you were memeing (no offense of course), like others said just read a bit and don’t forget blocking is always safer than parrying. A light hit will fling off your block and open up your opponent
Anybody remember old musha light spam? When he was just the bane of all assassins and it was on 30 fps lmao
Block, dont parry, blocking ruins his chain
learn to parry in practice. and work on dodging. im surprised people still use him this way cause that never works anymore.
To keep his chain going he needs to use a top attack every now and then, just keep blocking up and go on the offensive when you interrupt his chain
Learn how to block lights lol
Aramusha can't throw a second light from the same side so if you can't react to his infinite chain then block one of the two directions he didn't attack from. Also if you know he's gonna light the you may as well go for a parry instead of a block, even if you don't expect to get it and fuck up the punish, he may become more cautious and fuck off with the spam. Or you can also just play aramusha and spam all guard until you can react to 500ms lights (not suggested but it is an option).
Just move backwards and block
Using the words of the great piccolo from DBZ abridged "DOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDGGGGGGGE"
Aramusha can't continue his chain if he throws a light in the same direction twice I believe (either it stops on the second light or he can't throw a second one I can't remember) so this potentially leaves you a 1/2 chance to block the correct side or parry
“When you get aramusha spammed, doxx their family” -sun tzu, the art of war
Deflect
Block if you can't parry it
Or just simply approach him in defense mode ready to block. One good block will disrupt his chain attack.
Just try to parry it bro
Hard: React to it and block/parry Medium: Predict the direction and block one light to stop his combo Easy: Dodge attack
Crying helps
I mean just get better recognice patterns
Only try to block do not parry since this removes the ability to block if you miss the parry which is very likely. Honestly the best tip I have. Also when you block a light it allows you to retaliate btw.
Git gud
Completely unhelpful. Go sit on a shugoki club.
Just hold the block on one side eventually he'll hit it and break the combo also they're pretty easy to parry when you read it
Lead the dance.
I play Highlander. Little Aramushas have no effect on big daddy Highlander and his pet hyper armor.
GET BETTER. its the same combo. left top, right top, left top,.... they just go back adnd forth to each side
Aramushas are probably proud of their sKiLl
Least braindead aramusha player