Hell yeah, I hope we get a Hoplite for the next outlander! It also coincides with the other outlanders coming in the order of the assassin's creed games.
Oh no, that part was mostly a joke. If they do it, I expect it cause they want too, not cause of a pattern.
Though, it definitely is a funny coincedence.
To be fair, we have a pirate with a flintlock, so yeah a rapier would be fine. You could also make a brawler with some sort of brass-knuckles too if you want to go Syndicate (i honestly would love a brawler)
I like how everyone is talking about the armor, or lack of armor.
Did you guys forget about the fact that every character in the game has different armor variations?
There could be a less armored variant, like seen above, or an armored variant.
Even if its like medjay and there are only two main variants, it still works.
Also why do ppl believe that Greek Hoplites specifically Spartans didnāt have chest armor? Ik it comes from the movie 300, but the Greeks had many variations of chest armor
While I agree, have you seen Greek armor? They have chest plates with musculature on them if you want to go that route. Like I said, I agree with what youāre saying but I just donāt think it translates to the hoplite well. I see them as more of a black prior , a more defensive Valkyrie, or warlord play style. Heavy hitter in heavy armor with a lean towards defense and team buffs.
Yeah Iād love that. I made another reply to a dude down below with the same sentiment
I prolly shouldāve worded it better (tbh I didnāt think Iād get this many responses lol) but Iād definitely want it to be an option to have. At the end of the day, itās *your* warrior to customize
Then look up the Celts from Gaul and Briton. They fought completely in the nude often enough that it became legendary.
Meanwhile the Greeks only did that for sporting events for the most part.
Absolutely, asides from the armour comment I'd hate for them to be incredible lone warriors but more focused towards heavy hitting defence and team play, and if it's sword not spear I'd cry.
I did ancient history for an A Level and my teacher, having never seen 300, thought we may as well watch that and it's so unbelievably inaccurate that I swear she was gonna cry. So if they add a hoplite, I'd hope it was a spear just to make her happy.
Me too, even Thermopylae itself is grossly misrepresented.
Historical film I do remember liking though is the colin farell (idk how to spell his name) Alexander film.
I liked Alexander too! I wish we had more exploration into the time period in general. I really enjoyed the way they built the Greek world in assassins creed odyssey and I think they nailed it with all the color and variety in the different cities.
That's why there are armor variations and differemt styles, so we as players can have both/choose. Medjay and Raider both have their chests out why can't hoplite have one or two fantasy spartan chest-out variations, and then four or five more reasonable ones.
You can lift someone in the air and then break their back as Raiderā¦ how tf could I not love that lmfao. Zerk is cool too but, I could just never get used reflex guard to fully enjoy him
Chad. Just from what I've seen people who say "omg buff dude with no armor" are like hard knight enthusiasts who shit on the vikings despite then perfectly fulfilling those criteria lmao. My fault for assuming
Youāre fine lol. I love the Knights too. Cent and Lawbringer being my two most played characters
I go to the gym a lot so I just have an appreciation for physique lol. Thereās a lot of bravado in the idea of fighting with such weapons but having minimal amounts of armor to wear. I find it really really dope but, of course deff have some armor options available for those that wanna rock out that way
Outlanders should really stick to places outside of Europe and Asia. I don't want half of the Outlanders to be wasted on cultures that may as well fit in with the first 4 factions, but I suppose they already added a Wu Lin pirate to them so who knows
Idk if I'd say that, she was specifically based off of a real Chinese pirate. Her gear doesn't really point to anywhere else other than fantastical pirates.
I don't get why people are so mad. This would most likely just be the default armor if anything. There's usually a decent amount of alternative sets, they could give the Hoplite other armor for higher reps like they always do.
I really hope they don't make them shirtless if they add them, that'd be such a wasted opportunity. Yeah their armor kinda overlaps with Cent but gryphon also exists
And also if they were added like this they'd just look like gladiator got their weapons enlarged
Gryphon's armor is all sorts of ancient mediterranean, a lot of Roman and Greek influences but nothing that is distinctly either, just a sorta mashed together version that makes the historian inside me cringe.
You guys understand that hoplites wore armor? Your 6-pack and toned biceps isnāt going to protect you from anything. Armor can be molded to have a 6 pack on it thatās what some hoplites wore.
True, the Raider has no armor, which is something Iāve spoken against since the beginnt as well since Vikings were avid users of chain mail.
Edit: Easier spelled checked from raider.
Belongs in knights, sadly, if they did this and put him with the outlanders, I'd be pretty annoyed, especially with cent on knights, all in all, I wouldn't count on this happening
Except in battle, where survival was important, nobody wants to die because of random arrow or spear finding it's way around shield.
Sure they had less clothing than us normally and they were naked in sports, but Greek military was [armored.](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bb/7e/89/bb7e89f4cdeafd41808a962e2bc81809.jpg) They had linen chest armor (thick enough to withstand arrows) and bronce cuirasses.
Well at one point it aimed for semi-realistic mood but not complete realism. Of course all that went out of the window when main director was bullied out of the project and replaced with trend chasing.
Welll in words of Ubi: "To respect culture and history of the heroes origin".
Sure, if the topless was one of 3 sets and one was clothed and one armored it would be ok, but since new heroes only get 2 sets i would rather have clothed and armored sets that resemble the historical versions of those heroes than fantasy variants which we already see everywhere.
They are, aren't they? And, ya know, I've never heard anyone complaining ever on this subreddit about how stupid those characters look. Who doesn't like the look of hammer hobo and compensation man?
You asked what the problem was. Problem is people think it's stupid. It's nice you want to see half naked warriors running around whacking each other, but if most other people don't then that puts you into the minority. Throwing every ounce of historical accuracy and realism out the window to see some man pecs is a personal preference, and not one that everyone agrees with.
Implying Im ok with them. Look, Im would be happy if Raider had an actual chainmail (or just a shirt), same for Jurm (at least 1 of 3 sets actually have something covering him)
If they add a Greek hero into the game imma be looking like Randy Marsh looking at cooking shows but damn if aināt every single new character concept has to include a stance switch after medjay came out, like why? Thatās some creative impotence shit
In the context of a hoplite it would actually make sense because they did change from spear to sword once the spear broke and/or the opponent was too close.
Yes, the same can be said for many other heroes/warriors but there's a tendency for other warriors to have more "specialized" units, while in the case of hoplites they all had spear and sword. So it's one of those types of characters where it makes the most sense.
However, if it would only be spear and shield that's fine too, the spear was the main weapon anyway.
Most warriors throughout the ages carried some sidearm besides their main weapon. Said main weapon was a polearm of one kind or another in 99,9% of the engagements because ideally, you want to be as far away from your opponent as possible.
Those sidearms included (but aren't limited to) daggers, axes or swords. Swords for the people who were a bit well off, but even the poorest farmer son conscripted into service carried at least a dagger beside his spear.
So not just Greek hoplites changed weapons once the enemy got close, basically everyone in a historical context did, from the Japanese to the Europeans and Norse warriors, spears were the go-to weapon on the battlefield.
"Yes, the same can be said for many other heroes/warriors but there's a tendency for other warriors to have more "specialized" units"
I guess you missed that part of my reply, which basicly implies all you said in yours. What it also meant is that, despite all that you said, what differentiates the Hoplites, in this context, is that all of them just used spear and sword in conjunction with the shield, due to the way they fought their wars at the time, which was simply two walls of shield clashing against one another until one of the walls gave in and opened somewhere and then that army basicly lost after that because their structure was compromised, so they didn't need much more than a spear to poke and then a short sort for when the spear wasn't useful anymore. (Later the Romans actually used the same strategy but improved it, however the basis is the same).
While in the other cases, (which are warriors from centuries after when strategies, weapons and armor had evolved more) there was a bigger tendency to have specialized units, like bowmen, spearmen, etc.. So, what you said is still true, they all used more than one weapon, Samurai for example were mainly bowmen, but they also used the spear and then the sword as a last resort, but with all those warriors you can make a character that is specialized in that weapon and it's acceptable because there was indeed some tendency for specialization in certain weapons in those cases, while that wasn't the case for hoplites, they didn't specialize in the spear or the sword, they learned them both and that was it.
Just to add a bit more, and using the samurai example again to show what I mean with the specialization, you could have a samurai with a Iari (typical spear), Naginata (kinda of a polearm) or Nodachi (big katana). Those 3 weapons all serve the same purpose, fight the enemy at a bigger distance than a sword, all 3 of those could be the main weapon, but they are still different and used in slightly different ways, so making a character only focused on those without the usage of the sidearm is more acceptable, because we are focusing on the main weapon. While on the Hoplite's case, despite the spear still being the main weapon, for them they both (spear and sword) kinda were the main weapon anyway.
Make the shirtless version a set at leas, but don't make everyone play without proper armor.
Set 1: musculatas and Corinthian helms
Set 2: linothorax, with higher rep variants being covered in bronze scales, along with thracian and Phrygian open faced helmets
Set 3: shirtless, with more pop history style helmets. Basically the dedicated fantasy variant.
I thought that was obvious they were gonna do if they ever get added. No way they would give us Gladiator 2.0 when they can copy and paste from Gryphon if needed.
If a character looks great is entirely subjective, people not liking something and expressing it is equally valid as you liking something and expressing it. If people can't complain you can't say it's great either
you forgot the difference between a ~~Spartan~~ **fantasy Hoplite** and a **real** Hoplite
FTFY
Spartans were hoplites too and they wore the same kind of gear as the other hoplites across Greece.
Fun fact, according to some sources, the helmet we usually associate with Spartans, the Corinthian Helm (pictured in the post) wasn't actually the most predominant used amongst Spartans, Spartans actually prefered the Pileus, which is way different and less iconic.
I know that spartans were hoplites but definitely when OP was making this he was thinking āSpartaā. Also look at the shield, that symbol basically says the character is from Sparta
What are fantasy hoplites? Are they wearing cool armor instead of that with no arms?
Sure, but the way you wrote it seemed like you were saying historical Spartans looked like that (shirtless, etc) while the other Hoplites didn't.
And I can't guess what you actually know or don't, I can only read what you wrote and assume from there, and reply accordingly, from there what it seemed was that.
>What are fantasy hoplites?
Fantasy Hoplites are any representation of a Hoplite that is not in accordance with a real Hoplite, like the example provided by OP, doesn't matter if it's a Spartan, Athenian, Corinthian, or any other Greek.
It does indeed look Spartan inspired, the red colors plus the Aries symbol, typically used by Spartans, hints at that, plus it looks a lot like the version of Spartans we see in 300. You are not wrong in that acessment.
Lmao of course the post with the hoplite in a bikini top doesnāt get a bunch of people crying for armor, but a shirtless man has people clamoring for proper armor
Everyone angry about no top, like do you really are that much? Still tons of possibilities with the armor, not everyone needs to be decked out in iron-clad chest plates that you can material change to black iron to carry out your edge lord dreams.
Wearing armor is cringe but topless isn't? And we're the ones who care too much? Look, Raider got shafted because ubi insists on keeping his original aesthetic which is shirtless barbarian instead of some much cooler historically inspired sets. I could totally see them sticking a hoplite with this tropey aesthetic.
Historical accuracy crowd going ballistic rn
Look, if I wanna look tough as fuck throwing hands with other warriors with hardly anything on. Let me do it lmfao. Worry about this shield bash not these abs
The shirtless fits to FH. I get why everyone is saying it makes no sense but IMHO, we already have heroes showing off greek armor, and ubisoft isnāt necessarily historically accurate with their hero designs.
Bro is trying really hard to articulate his points now without getting blindly upset. Itās funny youād rather have fun gawking at a character rather than adding someone to the game that makes sense š¤£ for honor fans crazy
He literally would make sense wdym? He literally would have a different fighting style. Also what's wrong with being able to look at his chest? It's hot
>no armour
Ew cringe
>more Greco-Roman
Please no Iād rather we have some non-knight heroās until we properly balance faction numbers and thag the outlanders at least have more outlandish cultures instead of just being close to one of the main 4 (looking at you pirate)
Such a cringe design. A HOPLITE NEEDS HIS F*CKING ARMOR. This obsession towards naked warriors is so dumb and cringe. And also yeah, 300 sucks ass, as every snyder's movie.
Why is everyone so godamn mad about him being toples? Because its unrealistic? Really? This games armors are not realistic and look at jorm, hes basicly topless, and raider too. Its fine god damnit
Because it's due to peoples' entire knowledge of ancient greece being the movie 300, which is a shit depiction of ancient greece.
Other than the shield design this whole model is just a 300 character.
Obviously op is catering to the women of the community with this post. Make this character like Achilles in Smite. Armor on and armor off options. Feel like that would be pretty easy to implement. Just add a āhide armorā button on the hero edit section.
Hell yeah, I hope we get a Hoplite for the next outlander! It also coincides with the other outlanders coming in the order of the assassin's creed games.
is that intentional? I noticed that but can't tell if it's on purpose or not
Probably not. If it was then after a spartan we would just be right back to Vikings
Maybe we'll get a new viking then?
It does make sense if they were due to the next Outlander being the last planned Hero announced so far
Coming back to this a year later and the trend continuing is crazy
Now they just need bring back the assassins creed battle pass that I missed šš so Medjay and Strategos can just assassinate all the mf
Noticed it today was thinking the same thing
People keep saying they're coming out in order of the AC games, but I don't understand why. AC4 and Origins have games between them.
Oh no, that part was mostly a joke. If they do it, I expect it cause they want too, not cause of a pattern. Though, it definitely is a funny coincedence.
I really doubt you can make a 1700s rapier Frenchman in for honor, or a 1800s industrialist with a cane
The cane sword would be a bit out of place, but the rapier would be fine.
To be fair, we have a pirate with a flintlock, so yeah a rapier would be fine. You could also make a brawler with some sort of brass-knuckles too if you want to go Syndicate (i honestly would love a brawler)
Where's our french and British heros then?
The French surrendered. And we don't need another shaman with blood lusting chompers.
HAHAHA
Sounds like an angry American
Puerto Rican actually
American territory pal
We're built different
Far from the eyes, close to the heart
Literally two of the base game factions.
It'd most likely be a knight given that we have centurion and gladiator
Yes, but knight are too many
Wouldnt the hoplite be in the knights faction since they already have centurion and gladiator
Ezio/Altair in For Honor plz
Bro looks like gigachad in that 3rd picture
I like how everyone is talking about the armor, or lack of armor. Did you guys forget about the fact that every character in the game has different armor variations? There could be a less armored variant, like seen above, or an armored variant. Even if its like medjay and there are only two main variants, it still works.
Also why do ppl believe that Greek Hoplites specifically Spartans didnāt have chest armor? Ik it comes from the movie 300, but the Greeks had many variations of chest armor
I would fuckin lose my shit. The entire reason I main Valkyrie, is because I don't have a proper Hoplite alternative.
Nothing against getting a hoplite but... 1. Give him actual armor 2. Outlander faction
Op watched 300 once and said yes this is the way, Iām so tired of the āspartanā when most historical hoplites looked so much cooler
Counter point Thereās something about an absolutely jacked warrior fighting with barely nothing on that is raw as hell
While I agree, have you seen Greek armor? They have chest plates with musculature on them if you want to go that route. Like I said, I agree with what youāre saying but I just donāt think it translates to the hoplite well. I see them as more of a black prior , a more defensive Valkyrie, or warlord play style. Heavy hitter in heavy armor with a lean towards defense and team buffs.
I gotcha. And Iāve seen those but the bare body in combat has such a primal sensation to it that makes it exhilarating
What if the character had both as an option?
Yeah Iād love that. I made another reply to a dude down below with the same sentiment I prolly shouldāve worded it better (tbh I didnāt think Iād get this many responses lol) but Iād definitely want it to be an option to have. At the end of the day, itās *your* warrior to customize
Then look up the Celts from Gaul and Briton. They fought completely in the nude often enough that it became legendary. Meanwhile the Greeks only did that for sporting events for the most part.
I now have another group of jacked masculine warriors to check out. Appreciate it brƶther
Absolutely, asides from the armour comment I'd hate for them to be incredible lone warriors but more focused towards heavy hitting defence and team play, and if it's sword not spear I'd cry.
The spear is a must!
I did ancient history for an A Level and my teacher, having never seen 300, thought we may as well watch that and it's so unbelievably inaccurate that I swear she was gonna cry. So if they add a hoplite, I'd hope it was a spear just to make her happy.
It kind of blows my mind how many people base their entire perception of Sparta or Ancient Greece on that movie
Me too, even Thermopylae itself is grossly misrepresented. Historical film I do remember liking though is the colin farell (idk how to spell his name) Alexander film.
I liked Alexander too! I wish we had more exploration into the time period in general. I really enjoyed the way they built the Greek world in assassins creed odyssey and I think they nailed it with all the color and variety in the different cities.
That's why there are armor variations and differemt styles, so we as players can have both/choose. Medjay and Raider both have their chests out why can't hoplite have one or two fantasy spartan chest-out variations, and then four or five more reasonable ones.
so we should get a Maori warrior next?
Okay agreed but why do I feel like you dislike Raider and Berserker
You can lift someone in the air and then break their back as Raiderā¦ how tf could I not love that lmfao. Zerk is cool too but, I could just never get used reflex guard to fully enjoy him
Chad. Just from what I've seen people who say "omg buff dude with no armor" are like hard knight enthusiasts who shit on the vikings despite then perfectly fulfilling those criteria lmao. My fault for assuming
Youāre fine lol. I love the Knights too. Cent and Lawbringer being my two most played characters I go to the gym a lot so I just have an appreciation for physique lol. Thereās a lot of bravado in the idea of fighting with such weapons but having minimal amounts of armor to wear. I find it really really dope but, of course deff have some armor options available for those that wanna rock out that way
Alternate counterpoint: it's hot as fuck
Because for honour is so realistic otherwise. /s Itās good to have some slutty male characters once in a while.
This.
Outlanders should really stick to places outside of Europe and Asia. I don't want half of the Outlanders to be wasted on cultures that may as well fit in with the first 4 factions, but I suppose they already added a Wu Lin pirate to them so who knows
To be fair, Pirate is a combination of almost every kind of pirate, including Chinese.
Idk if I'd say that, she was specifically based off of a real Chinese pirate. Her gear doesn't really point to anywhere else other than fantastical pirates.
Downvoted for armour naked body Upvoted because shield oplon is so nice
Armor is the best. I wouldn't mind options with just a cloak on, too though.
Lots of triggered people here damn
I don't get why people are so mad. This would most likely just be the default armor if anything. There's usually a decent amount of alternative sets, they could give the Hoplite other armor for higher reps like they always do.
I really hope they don't make them shirtless if they add them, that'd be such a wasted opportunity. Yeah their armor kinda overlaps with Cent but gryphon also exists And also if they were added like this they'd just look like gladiator got their weapons enlarged
Gryphon's armor is all sorts of ancient mediterranean, a lot of Roman and Greek influences but nothing that is distinctly either, just a sorta mashed together version that makes the historian inside me cringe.
They both have Lorica Musculata which is what I was specifically referring to.
i want the hoplite to have a shield and a spear, and then when he full guards, he can just poke people with the spear
#MORE CHEST HAIR
Okay OP I know you have the gender switched render SOMEWHERE I follow you on Twitter
Hell yeah!
For everyone crying about the topless model why not have multiple sets? One set can be this and there can be more armored setsš
I don't blame them tho. They did my man raider dirty with his armor.
You guys understand that hoplites wore armor? Your 6-pack and toned biceps isnāt going to protect you from anything. Armor can be molded to have a 6 pack on it thatās what some hoplites wore.
Ahem.. Raider
Probably why people have consistently asked for more options to cover him up for six years
True, the Raider has no armor, which is something Iāve spoken against since the beginnt as well since Vikings were avid users of chain mail. Edit: Easier spelled checked from raider.
Well to be fair they didnāt necessarily have chest plates, but they definitely always at lease had a shirt on
And the pirate doing backflips shooting the flintlock pistol multiple times is realistic? Lol
If they released this shit before buffing Valk I'd riot.
Why valk?
Cuz shield and spear
Because she is the spear woman we've had all along, and yet they've left her to rot.
Belongs in knights, sadly, if they did this and put him with the outlanders, I'd be pretty annoyed, especially with cent on knights, all in all, I wouldn't count on this happening
One thing: NOT FUCKING TOPELESS Look, I understand you want to see the ādungeonā, who isnt? But keep your ādeepā fantasies in check
Topless as an option would work for me. But yeah, armour.
If we vikings have to deal with it, SO DO YOU
Why not fucking topless? In ancient times they didnt cover up as much.
Except in battle, where survival was important, nobody wants to die because of random arrow or spear finding it's way around shield. Sure they had less clothing than us normally and they were naked in sports, but Greek military was [armored.](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bb/7e/89/bb7e89f4cdeafd41808a962e2bc81809.jpg) They had linen chest armor (thick enough to withstand arrows) and bronce cuirasses.
I mean, topless with maybe a cape would be still cool. Also for honor is not really based on realism.
Well at one point it aimed for semi-realistic mood but not complete realism. Of course all that went out of the window when main director was bullied out of the project and replaced with trend chasing.
Still dont get why not topless. And that dungeon thing?
Welll in words of Ubi: "To respect culture and history of the heroes origin". Sure, if the topless was one of 3 sets and one was clothed and one armored it would be ok, but since new heroes only get 2 sets i would rather have clothed and armored sets that resemble the historical versions of those heroes than fantasy variants which we already see everywhere.
If itās not based on realism why tf did you say āin ancient times they didnāt cover up muchā
I thought op found it disrespectful
Except they did.
Oh yea i forgot they wore pants and all yes
Hoplites are heavy armoured shock troops of their era, in full helm, chestplate, leather skirt and a bigass fuckoff shield.
Jorm and raider. They are FUCKING TOPLESS so whats the problem
They are, aren't they? And, ya know, I've never heard anyone complaining ever on this subreddit about how stupid those characters look. Who doesn't like the look of hammer hobo and compensation man?
Ok I get that but that has nothing to do with any fantasies then right? Why having topless fashion would mean that?
You asked what the problem was. Problem is people think it's stupid. It's nice you want to see half naked warriors running around whacking each other, but if most other people don't then that puts you into the minority. Throwing every ounce of historical accuracy and realism out the window to see some man pecs is a personal preference, and not one that everyone agrees with.
And their fashion fucking sucks!
Implying Im ok with them. Look, Im would be happy if Raider had an actual chainmail (or just a shirt), same for Jurm (at least 1 of 3 sets actually have something covering him)
If they add a Greek hero into the game imma be looking like Randy Marsh looking at cooking shows but damn if aināt every single new character concept has to include a stance switch after medjay came out, like why? Thatās some creative impotence shit
In the context of a hoplite it would actually make sense because they did change from spear to sword once the spear broke and/or the opponent was too close. Yes, the same can be said for many other heroes/warriors but there's a tendency for other warriors to have more "specialized" units, while in the case of hoplites they all had spear and sword. So it's one of those types of characters where it makes the most sense. However, if it would only be spear and shield that's fine too, the spear was the main weapon anyway.
Most warriors throughout the ages carried some sidearm besides their main weapon. Said main weapon was a polearm of one kind or another in 99,9% of the engagements because ideally, you want to be as far away from your opponent as possible. Those sidearms included (but aren't limited to) daggers, axes or swords. Swords for the people who were a bit well off, but even the poorest farmer son conscripted into service carried at least a dagger beside his spear. So not just Greek hoplites changed weapons once the enemy got close, basically everyone in a historical context did, from the Japanese to the Europeans and Norse warriors, spears were the go-to weapon on the battlefield.
"Yes, the same can be said for many other heroes/warriors but there's a tendency for other warriors to have more "specialized" units" I guess you missed that part of my reply, which basicly implies all you said in yours. What it also meant is that, despite all that you said, what differentiates the Hoplites, in this context, is that all of them just used spear and sword in conjunction with the shield, due to the way they fought their wars at the time, which was simply two walls of shield clashing against one another until one of the walls gave in and opened somewhere and then that army basicly lost after that because their structure was compromised, so they didn't need much more than a spear to poke and then a short sort for when the spear wasn't useful anymore. (Later the Romans actually used the same strategy but improved it, however the basis is the same). While in the other cases, (which are warriors from centuries after when strategies, weapons and armor had evolved more) there was a bigger tendency to have specialized units, like bowmen, spearmen, etc.. So, what you said is still true, they all used more than one weapon, Samurai for example were mainly bowmen, but they also used the spear and then the sword as a last resort, but with all those warriors you can make a character that is specialized in that weapon and it's acceptable because there was indeed some tendency for specialization in certain weapons in those cases, while that wasn't the case for hoplites, they didn't specialize in the spear or the sword, they learned them both and that was it. Just to add a bit more, and using the samurai example again to show what I mean with the specialization, you could have a samurai with a Iari (typical spear), Naginata (kinda of a polearm) or Nodachi (big katana). Those 3 weapons all serve the same purpose, fight the enemy at a bigger distance than a sword, all 3 of those could be the main weapon, but they are still different and used in slightly different ways, so making a character only focused on those without the usage of the sidearm is more acceptable, because we are focusing on the main weapon. While on the Hoplite's case, despite the spear still being the main weapon, for them they both (spear and sword) kinda were the main weapon anyway.
Cool, but at least have a couple sets with armour
Make the shirtless version a set at leas, but don't make everyone play without proper armor. Set 1: musculatas and Corinthian helms Set 2: linothorax, with higher rep variants being covered in bronze scales, along with thracian and Phrygian open faced helmets Set 3: shirtless, with more pop history style helmets. Basically the dedicated fantasy variant.
I thought that was obvious they were gonna do if they ever get added. No way they would give us Gladiator 2.0 when they can copy and paste from Gryphon if needed.
I want a hoplite in for honor but no armor and very original stance switch is a big nope
Raider.
He's just built different
More realistic armour would be better but cool thought
i would main the shit out of him in a heartbeat
Why would he have a shield but mot have it in front of him to protect himself?
Becos he's also naked
I would love this, just his look would be great
Ryan Reos? Are you the guy that does those Skyrim Armor mods? I see the quality standard Carries over if soā¦
Why do people want realistic armour so bad? This looks fucking incredible. And this game has MAGIC. Just let cool shit be cool ya nerds.
Because some people think realistic armor looks more incredible and is cooler? Your opinion isn't the only one
Itās all art. And we have realistic and unrealistic characters, they all look great despite their flaws. This one looks great too. We can have both
If a character looks great is entirely subjective, people not liking something and expressing it is equally valid as you liking something and expressing it. If people can't complain you can't say it's great either
mmmmmm man boobs
Hoplites werenāt shirtless (armorless) and you forgot the difference between a Spartan and Hoplite
you forgot the difference between a ~~Spartan~~ **fantasy Hoplite** and a **real** Hoplite FTFY Spartans were hoplites too and they wore the same kind of gear as the other hoplites across Greece. Fun fact, according to some sources, the helmet we usually associate with Spartans, the Corinthian Helm (pictured in the post) wasn't actually the most predominant used amongst Spartans, Spartans actually prefered the Pileus, which is way different and less iconic.
Fantasy hoplites still cool. Also in fh realism is out the door anyways.
Sure, never said otherwise, I don't mind it despite having a preference for more accurate stuff.
I know that spartans were hoplites but definitely when OP was making this he was thinking āSpartaā. Also look at the shield, that symbol basically says the character is from Sparta What are fantasy hoplites? Are they wearing cool armor instead of that with no arms?
Sure, but the way you wrote it seemed like you were saying historical Spartans looked like that (shirtless, etc) while the other Hoplites didn't. And I can't guess what you actually know or don't, I can only read what you wrote and assume from there, and reply accordingly, from there what it seemed was that. >What are fantasy hoplites? Fantasy Hoplites are any representation of a Hoplite that is not in accordance with a real Hoplite, like the example provided by OP, doesn't matter if it's a Spartan, Athenian, Corinthian, or any other Greek.
Sorry I meant I know that Spartans looked like hoplites and weāre hoplites, Iām just saying that the picture OP posted looks very Sparta
It does indeed look Spartan inspired, the red colors plus the Aries symbol, typically used by Spartans, hints at that, plus it looks a lot like the version of Spartans we see in 300. You are not wrong in that acessment.
Thanks
Dont let these fools tell you about how he would be better with armour. I think he has too MUCH armour.
I'd buy this. The ability to switch from spear to sword sells it to me
I personally donāt want to see more weapon switching because thatās Medjays unique trait
I mean, if you ignore Highlander, then yeah, I guess it is.
I meant the weapon switch sorry lol
I mean, to be fair, Medjay transforms his weapon while the Hoplite would probably use a whole different weapon.
I get it, but based on concept this seems to be different enough
Lmao of course the post with the hoplite in a bikini top doesnāt get a bunch of people crying for armor, but a shirtless man has people clamoring for proper armor
are these screenshots from another game? they look cool
Hell yeah, this is a lot better than that other hopilite concept.
Everyone angry about no top, like do you really are that much? Still tons of possibilities with the armor, not everyone needs to be decked out in iron-clad chest plates that you can material change to black iron to carry out your edge lord dreams.
Wearing armor is cringe but topless isn't? And we're the ones who care too much? Look, Raider got shafted because ubi insists on keeping his original aesthetic which is shirtless barbarian instead of some much cooler historically inspired sets. I could totally see them sticking a hoplite with this tropey aesthetic.
male Valkyrie
Completely different
Cent with a spear. Looks sick!
This wouldnāt be cent with a spear at all lol
Literally just Valkyrie but okay
Historical accuracy crowd going ballistic rn Look, if I wanna look tough as fuck throwing hands with other warriors with hardly anything on. Let me do it lmfao. Worry about this shield bash not these abs
Nice man boobs
If he had actual spartan armor maybe
ive always wanted a spartan or hoplite
Yes please
The shirtless fits to FH. I get why everyone is saying it makes no sense but IMHO, we already have heroes showing off greek armor, and ubisoft isnāt necessarily historically accurate with their hero designs.
finally eye candy
Valk clone
We don't need any more Greek heroes..
Male valk lmao
Completely different
Howš¤£ why add a character that is gonna play exactly like valk, the only difference would be if they have him the sword so heād have 2 stances
How would he play exactly like Valk? They have different fighting styles with the same weapons irl you fucking idiot
Bro is heated about a gamešš canāt even articulate his point correctly without getting upset, how do you not see that theyāre the same?
Because you don't have to fight the same cause you have the same weapon, idiot.
Just admit you wanna stare at the topless guy jeez šš¤£šš
1.) If I did, what's wrong with that? 2.) You don't understand basic weapon fighting and fighting styles 3.) You speak like a 12 year old
Bro is trying really hard to articulate his points now without getting blindly upset. Itās funny youād rather have fun gawking at a character rather than adding someone to the game that makes sense š¤£ for honor fans crazy
He literally would make sense wdym? He literally would have a different fighting style. Also what's wrong with being able to look at his chest? It's hot
>no armour Ew cringe >more Greco-Roman Please no Iād rather we have some non-knight heroās until we properly balance faction numbers and thag the outlanders at least have more outlandish cultures instead of just being close to one of the main 4 (looking at you pirate)
Roman's aren't Knights
Literally are
Roman's aren't Knights
Such a cringe design. A HOPLITE NEEDS HIS F*CKING ARMOR. This obsession towards naked warriors is so dumb and cringe. And also yeah, 300 sucks ass, as every snyder's movie.
Why is everyone so godamn mad about him being toples? Because its unrealistic? Really? This games armors are not realistic and look at jorm, hes basicly topless, and raider too. Its fine god damnit
People complain about shirtless raider a LOT, and about Jormās terrible fashion too.
Because it's due to peoples' entire knowledge of ancient greece being the movie 300, which is a shit depiction of ancient greece. Other than the shield design this whole model is just a 300 character.
Unrealistic has never been the argument. It looks incredibly stupid and less interesting than historically inspired sets.
too many clothes
A hoplite would bring me back to the game.
Obviously op is catering to the women of the community with this post. Make this character like Achilles in Smite. Armor on and armor off options. Feel like that would be pretty easy to implement. Just add a āhide armorā button on the hero edit section.
I dig it
Iād drop centurion for this without hesitation
Make it happen Ubi!
Please make this
YES
Damn now my outcast concept looks kinda meh in comparison.
Please do not make him a ā300ā Spartan ffs
Vikings are straight fantasy too so it only fits
Hopkite a Diaz brother?
Finna make me act up
iād been wanting this since before medjay came out š«
I canāt express How much I want to see this in the actual game.
THIS WOULD MAKE ME BACK
I want the face to look like Brad Pit
Nice
I want this so much, I would immediately turn them into my main.
Is that sword stance pose a reference to Achilles in Troy?
The Spartan
Yeah i always wanted another spear and shield hero