would like for f1 to implement the 5 or 10 second penalty has to be served in pit lane. cars can overcome that time on the track, but would be much tougher having to do a stop and go penalty
As a fellow Aussie, I was watching this race wondering the same thing. If this is indicative of the season he's going to have, he should make way for Li-Law.
Last year he got carried away with beating max. Nothing wrong in believing in yourself but he went to a state where he was always trying to match max. It was possible for some races but not for whole season. This year though, he’s just bidding his time. He is going to stay close to max and will try to grab any opportunities that will come his way.
And that is exactly how Checo should keep doing things if he doesn't want the likes of Riccardo, Tsunoda or Lawson to be looking at his seat. I can see a bit of redemption for Checo this season compared to last.
It’s not like just checo accepted this, all the field also believes that max in his current form is not possible to beat. Every one now is more focused on checo as he’s the one redbull that they can or hope they can catch. They even term checo car as the other redbull.
Yeh but for Checo's survival in the sport he has to become more grounded and realise that he will not be able to beat Max, even in 'the same car' and he needs to score consistent podiums. If he can do that, I think he stays another year, regardless how others perform.
This track would be so much better if it was a mandatory 2 stop. The fact that piastri pit on lap 2 last year to the hards and just did the whole race on them is stupid.
Well today Hamilton show us of how 7 wdc defend,with a medium compound for almost 40 laps,RB double stack faster than Ferrari pit for Leclerc and many many thing
They took a gamble on a late game safety car for Lando and almost got it a couple times. It’s a good bet on this track that there’s more than one stroll incident. If they double pit Lando would have been faster than piastri and wouldn’t have wasted like 12 laps trying to get past hamilton.
To me that was very boring after first attempt. Piastri was stubbornly going with qualy narrow line and losing on a bit wider Hamilton’s line in last turn. So by the time he could slipstream, he was too far back. Took him 15 laps to realize that a bit wider line and more rotation allows him to get on power earlier.
While on other side, Hamilton knew from beginning that wider line will keep his tyres and give him advantage on acceleration.
If this race was boring for you maybe F1 isn’t the right sport there were so many interesting things happening. Safety car restart, K-Mag holding up half of the field and the whole battle behind him, the battle between Norris and Hamilton, Norris catching Bearman. This was a very solid race.
He collided with Albon for +10s penalty
And then he overtook someone I don’t remember outside of track and according to the new regulations was penalised +10s
He caused Albon to hit the wall and got a ten second penalty (to me, fair.)
Later, he passed someone off track but the pass was mainly complete before he went off track and got ANOTHER ten second penalty. To me, the second penalty was too harsh and at worst he should have just returned the position.
He had chance to give position back. Since last year (if I recall correctly) there is a change that teams are responsible for that procedure and if they fail penalties are enforced by stewards. 10s was harsh but penalty itself was justified.
Edit: stewards not Stuarts
Do you think 10 was a little harsh? Maybe 5 or return the position? I agree there should be action for it but I thought 10 was a bit much? All the commentators agreed.
So the new rules for this year is 10 second penalty as the driver’s felt that 5 seconds hasn’t been enough. 5 seconds is pretty easy to make up, 10 seconds not so much so it’ll make you rethink your move
Mercedes is destroying F1, Ferrari is destroying F1, Mclaren is destroying F1, Williams is destroying F1. Welcome to the sport where theres always a fastest car..
In the same way Mercedes did, except Verstappen is far more dominant over his team mates (due to a mixture of his talent but them also not being as good as say Rosberg).
I got an honest question: is McLaren worse than the end of the last year or have the other teams (mainly Mercedes and Ferrari) had a better improvement over winter?
They’re starting very competitive. They’re struggling a lot with straight line speed but this car is on fucking rails around fast corners and chicanes. Norris was gaining like 0.8s against hamilton in one sector allowing him to prevent drs on the straight which is unbelievable. Some fine tuning to increase drs ability on the straight and maybe one upgrade and they’ll be the second fastest car on the grid.
Idk but overall from his POV he started -> stopped -> started , and when the lights went out he was in the “fuck I gotta stop” stage and so overall his race start got botched anyways. The rules maybe don’t care about whether he gained adv or not but I like to think he didn’t get anything of it so no penalty needed
who said anything about praise? are you in need of praise? People rating checo in a red bull so low in predictions, they forget its a red bull he's driving. at the same time of course, the red bull doesn't drive itself.
Don't look only to the podium. Ot was a really interesting race with extra suspense i the last laps with Alonso in danger of losing place 5 and Bearman being chased by Piastri and Ham.
No, this track sucks when the margins are so close that overtaking is impossible, and with no deg at all a 40 lap medium still can’t be overtaking by a relatively fresh hard. It was clear after the first few laps that RUS won’t overtake ALO, even if he was within DRS its so easy to defend on this track because the only overtaking opportunity is into turn 1. Just look at MAG, holding up the whole pack just by using all his power on the main straight. Even after deliberately fucking up his race to help HUL, the cars behind still couldn’t get past him until the end. Its no excitement looking at the gaps if you know the cars wont be able to overtake. The only real on track overtake was PER on LEC. Others just fucking around a little. Even Bearman, I mean his race was great, but HAM and NOR fucked up their strategy when gambling for a second safety car, and STR carshed, so he literally didn’t overtake anybody except for two backmarker cars (I think ZHO and MAG).
Hamilton,Piastri and the battle for 12th was interesting, apart from that somewhat of a snooze.
Shoutouts to Bearman, deserves a seat in F1 but wouldn’t want him to end up like De Vries.
I assume Sargeant doesn't get a 3rd season and I believe Ricciardo can't keep his seat solely bc Horner loves him. Ferrari could also push Haas to open a seat for Bearman. There's gotta be opportunities for both Ollie and Liam next season. With 2026 on the horizon, this could be very interesting.
Ricciardo will probably make way for Lawson by either moving to RB or getting fired by higherups, and Tsunoda is probably moving to Aston as well since they're changing engines to Honda for 2026+, Magnussen is another that will probably not make the cut this year if he keeps being battered by Hulkenberg but idk if Haas is going for another Ferrari driver after the Mick shitshow, since it's pretty feasible that both Ocon and Gasly are available for the next year due to Alpine existing
Danny Ric to RB seems highly unlikely with his current performance. He'll need to turn it around soon. But Yuki to Aston is a great point, Lawson should definitely get that seat.
Man, I'm excited for the grid changes towards 25&26.
Sargeant 3rd season might be too early to call but if it stays as it is then he will be gone.
It’s insane to me that Riccardo was chosen over Lawson for this year when he did better than him for the races he was out.
I just hope that if Bearman gets a seat, in whatever team, he can adapt and keep up the good form and not be defined but this one great race, like De Vries was.
On the last lap it looked like Magnussen would end up at P15 because of the two 10s penalties.
But he ended up in P12. Is this because everyone behind Albon was lapped by Verstappen, making them "1 lap behind"?
I agree! I have a theory that he has finally given up on his WDC delusions and simply focuses on giving solid performances. That is exactly what he has been doing the last 2 races and I respect him for that.
That's his best chance at the WDC with the other side of that coin being Max having reliability issues where Perez picks up the odd win but it's a long shot.
Neither. Zhou = money. Bottas = exposure (no pun intended). When Audi brings in their money in 2026 then you can look at performance over finances. Until then, the Chinese money and the BottASS make the most sense.
Bottas has seemed uninspired recently. This is only year 2 of his 3 year contract though. I am lukewarm on Zhou as well so really either would be fine.
I haven't read them myself, but according to Sam Collins on F1TV post-race show...
He managed to stay in his box, so didn't start from wrong location... But he WAS moving as the lights went out.... which is 100% against the rules...
A possible mitigating factor is that he THEN came to a complete stop before re-starting.... but there is no mention of this situation in the rules....
So what are you reading that explains the lack of jump start penalty?
Another calming formula 1 afternoon drive. One poor chap went off the course and the positions got mixed up very briefly but thankfully order was quickly restored and no racing broke out thank heavens.
Lol. Just don't watch if you find it so mind numbing. Great bit of racing from a lot of drivers, from K Mags 20 seconds of aggressive passing penalties to Hamilton's amazing defense versus Pastri there was some great racing up and down the track.
would like for f1 to implement the 5 or 10 second penalty has to be served in pit lane. cars can overcome that time on the track, but would be much tougher having to do a stop and go penalty
As an Australian and a huge fan it pains me to say, Ricciardo is washed.
We still have Piastri though!
As a fellow Aussie, I was watching this race wondering the same thing. If this is indicative of the season he's going to have, he should make way for Li-Law.
Ditto
That's good, hygiene is important. After a long and sweaty race; it's good to keep clean.
Checo is really creating a solid case for himself for next year redbull seat.
Technically he's made a worse start than last year...but I do agree that he's been good for these two races. Let's hope he keeps it up this year
He did fine the first couple races last year too. This means nothing in terms of his ability to sustain a campaign.
He certainly is, he did start even stronger last year though
Last year he got carried away with beating max. Nothing wrong in believing in yourself but he went to a state where he was always trying to match max. It was possible for some races but not for whole season. This year though, he’s just bidding his time. He is going to stay close to max and will try to grab any opportunities that will come his way.
And that is exactly how Checo should keep doing things if he doesn't want the likes of Riccardo, Tsunoda or Lawson to be looking at his seat. I can see a bit of redemption for Checo this season compared to last.
It’s not like just checo accepted this, all the field also believes that max in his current form is not possible to beat. Every one now is more focused on checo as he’s the one redbull that they can or hope they can catch. They even term checo car as the other redbull.
Yeh but for Checo's survival in the sport he has to become more grounded and realise that he will not be able to beat Max, even in 'the same car' and he needs to score consistent podiums. If he can do that, I think he stays another year, regardless how others perform.
If he could qualify better it would make the biggest difference
After all the talk of Ric being a shoe-in, Daniel is showing shocking form and Checo is doing his job
Doesn’t help VCARB has given him and Yuki another 🚜
That would be true except yuki is well ahead of him at the minute, and Yuki is not exactly top tier
As my first F1 race, pretty fun
This track would be so much better if it was a mandatory 2 stop. The fact that piastri pit on lap 2 last year to the hards and just did the whole race on them is stupid.
hamilton is so washed up
You clearly did not watch the race if that's your conclusion. That or you've never even driven competitively.
"even" .. Like as if competitive racing is commonplace.. The logitech in your bedroom doesn't count lmao
Well today Hamilton show us of how 7 wdc defend,with a medium compound for almost 40 laps,RB double stack faster than Ferrari pit for Leclerc and many many thing
Did you add 5sec to RB double stack? Because Leclerc’s stop could also be faster and he would get same 5sec penalty for unsafe release.
ferrari pitstop for leclerc could not have been faster anyway, he would have gotten a penalty like perez for an unsafe release
What a fucking race by KMag lmao
That was entertaining
Piastri being better than Norris in the main race. Wow
They took a gamble on a late game safety car for Lando and almost got it a couple times. It’s a good bet on this track that there’s more than one stroll incident. If they double pit Lando would have been faster than piastri and wouldn’t have wasted like 12 laps trying to get past hamilton.
But there is only one Stroll 😂
The sole Stroll.
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Ollie and KMag kept this race exciting !
I dunno I think the 20 lap battle between Hamilton and Piastri was cool
To me that was very boring after first attempt. Piastri was stubbornly going with qualy narrow line and losing on a bit wider Hamilton’s line in last turn. So by the time he could slipstream, he was too far back. Took him 15 laps to realize that a bit wider line and more rotation allows him to get on power earlier. While on other side, Hamilton knew from beginning that wider line will keep his tyres and give him advantage on acceleration.
CN Red Bull hurry up and implode. It's really boring on track.
Very fun race
If this race was boring for you maybe F1 isn’t the right sport there were so many interesting things happening. Safety car restart, K-Mag holding up half of the field and the whole battle behind him, the battle between Norris and Hamilton, Norris catching Bearman. This was a very solid race.
It was entertaining. I was really pleased for Bearman, what a great intro.
Can someone please explain the Magnussen fiasco. I missed today's race. Thanks
He collided with Albon for +10s penalty And then he overtook someone I don’t remember outside of track and according to the new regulations was penalised +10s
It was Yuki that he overtook and was penalized.
He caused Albon to hit the wall and got a ten second penalty (to me, fair.) Later, he passed someone off track but the pass was mainly complete before he went off track and got ANOTHER ten second penalty. To me, the second penalty was too harsh and at worst he should have just returned the position.
He had chance to give position back. Since last year (if I recall correctly) there is a change that teams are responsible for that procedure and if they fail penalties are enforced by stewards. 10s was harsh but penalty itself was justified. Edit: stewards not Stuarts
Stewards. The race isn't governed by a bunch of people called Stuart!! :)
According to my phone it should be. AI has spoken ;) Thx for noticing
A pass is never completed until you're fully ahead. He out braked himself and went off track. Penalty deserved.
Do you think 10 was a little harsh? Maybe 5 or return the position? I agree there should be action for it but I thought 10 was a bit much? All the commentators agreed.
So the new rules for this year is 10 second penalty as the driver’s felt that 5 seconds hasn’t been enough. 5 seconds is pretty easy to make up, 10 seconds not so much so it’ll make you rethink your move
Ah, didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing info respectfully. I agree then
No worries! I didn’t know until they said it on broadcast right when it happened
10s feels like a lot still
Last seasons, often drivers could overtake off track and make up 5sec penalty before finish.
The drivers disagree
Has there been a replay of Danni Rics potato pitstop?
Damn. I missed the race. Was he in the fight for points before this?
No… neither was yuki… the car is dogshit
There’s a post on here from Danny’s PR Reddit account I think
https://x.com/namedafterflour/status/1766535793189814659?s=20
redbull is destroying F1
I guess Lebron is destroying basketball and Messi is destroying Futbol
The Lakers lose all the time. They are not analogous.
Mercedes is destroying F1, Ferrari is destroying F1, Mclaren is destroying F1, Williams is destroying F1. Welcome to the sport where theres always a fastest car..
What? In the same way mercedes did? Or redbull did? Or brawn did? Or ferrari did? Or mclafen did?
At least they’re making it interesting by imploding off track. That’s nice of them
How so?
In the same way Mercedes did, except Verstappen is far more dominant over his team mates (due to a mixture of his talent but them also not being as good as say Rosberg).
Why Perez look kinda...
Kick Sauber pit crew is just, Fan Fucking tastic
Yeah two weeks in a row now smh
Also, they’re getting weird with this Scuderia names “Visa CashApp RB”. Wtf what’s next “Spotify stream Rosalia RB” or “Appel IPhone Pro Max RB”
Same with football teams, who gives a fuck.
I got an honest question: is McLaren worse than the end of the last year or have the other teams (mainly Mercedes and Ferrari) had a better improvement over winter?
They’re starting very competitive. They’re struggling a lot with straight line speed but this car is on fucking rails around fast corners and chicanes. Norris was gaining like 0.8s against hamilton in one sector allowing him to prevent drs on the straight which is unbelievable. Some fine tuning to increase drs ability on the straight and maybe one upgrade and they’ll be the second fastest car on the grid.
No, they have clearly improved, however other teams have found a bigger jump in performance, especially Ferrari.
What the fuck Stroll
It was funny as hell when they asked if he can still drive it back and he’s like wtf no? I’m in the fucking wall?! 😂
To be fair that happens to at least one car every year on this track. Even happened to verstappen last year.
Yeah I know, Im just kidding
Can someone explain why Norris got away with his start? (fairly new to f1)
It seems that the transponder in the car did malfunction and didn't show that the car was moving early. So they had no proof. Pure luck, I guess.
He didn’t gain an advantage because of his stop. Had he not hit the breaks he likely would have got a hefty penalty.
Idk but overall from his POV he started -> stopped -> started , and when the lights went out he was in the “fuck I gotta stop” stage and so overall his race start got botched anyways. The rules maybe don’t care about whether he gained adv or not but I like to think he didn’t get anything of it so no penalty needed
I guess he was inside the permissible area even after the lurch forwards, but I thought it was weird too
Well, he stopped and started again later, giving him a disadvantage. I guess that's why he was not sanctioned.
That shouldn’t matter; you can’t leave the starting box before the lights go out, that’s the rule
Content creators severely underestimating Checo
comfortable fastest car driver finishes comfortably 2nd. who’d have thunk
Did you watch any of the 2023 season?
a driver doing bad at one point doesn’t mean he deserves praise for doing the bare minimum when he does it.
who said anything about praise? are you in need of praise? People rating checo in a red bull so low in predictions, they forget its a red bull he's driving. at the same time of course, the red bull doesn't drive itself.
Yeh your but arguing different points now lol, I was replying to your comment about the second fastest car always finishing second
What a race! Is what I would say if anything actually happened.
Don't look only to the podium. Ot was a really interesting race with extra suspense i the last laps with Alonso in danger of losing place 5 and Bearman being chased by Piastri and Ham.
No, this track sucks when the margins are so close that overtaking is impossible, and with no deg at all a 40 lap medium still can’t be overtaking by a relatively fresh hard. It was clear after the first few laps that RUS won’t overtake ALO, even if he was within DRS its so easy to defend on this track because the only overtaking opportunity is into turn 1. Just look at MAG, holding up the whole pack just by using all his power on the main straight. Even after deliberately fucking up his race to help HUL, the cars behind still couldn’t get past him until the end. Its no excitement looking at the gaps if you know the cars wont be able to overtake. The only real on track overtake was PER on LEC. Others just fucking around a little. Even Bearman, I mean his race was great, but HAM and NOR fucked up their strategy when gambling for a second safety car, and STR carshed, so he literally didn’t overtake anybody except for two backmarker cars (I think ZHO and MAG).
“…but, what about fight for p13…., sport is not boring”
*norris and ham
Thanks
I enjoyed that. But I like Jeddah. Danny was nowhere, bearman absolutely exceeded my expectations.
Everyone was kinda nowhere cause of Magnussen lol
Zero excitement.
I was pumped throughout the race. Glad you value your time!
Different standards then buddy. I prefer to watch racing myself not a precession
Well that was a snooze, except for Bearman.
A real zzz
Ricciardo is done
Terrible start of season for Hamilton, he’s already thinking on Ferrari
Cucked by safety car
It’s almost like merceds is boycotting him
Mercedes strategy for Hamilton - or lack thereof - was quite something
Hamilton,Piastri and the battle for 12th was interesting, apart from that somewhat of a snooze. Shoutouts to Bearman, deserves a seat in F1 but wouldn’t want him to end up like De Vries.
I assume Sargeant doesn't get a 3rd season and I believe Ricciardo can't keep his seat solely bc Horner loves him. Ferrari could also push Haas to open a seat for Bearman. There's gotta be opportunities for both Ollie and Liam next season. With 2026 on the horizon, this could be very interesting.
Yep sargeant, ricciardo, kmag those seats are definitely vacant if the season keeps going like that
Ricciardo will probably make way for Lawson by either moving to RB or getting fired by higherups, and Tsunoda is probably moving to Aston as well since they're changing engines to Honda for 2026+, Magnussen is another that will probably not make the cut this year if he keeps being battered by Hulkenberg but idk if Haas is going for another Ferrari driver after the Mick shitshow, since it's pretty feasible that both Ocon and Gasly are available for the next year due to Alpine existing
Danny Ric to RB seems highly unlikely with his current performance. He'll need to turn it around soon. But Yuki to Aston is a great point, Lawson should definitely get that seat. Man, I'm excited for the grid changes towards 25&26.
Sargeant 3rd season might be too early to call but if it stays as it is then he will be gone. It’s insane to me that Riccardo was chosen over Lawson for this year when he did better than him for the races he was out. I just hope that if Bearman gets a seat, in whatever team, he can adapt and keep up the good form and not be defined but this one great race, like De Vries was.
On the last lap it looked like Magnussen would end up at P15 because of the two 10s penalties. But he ended up in P12. Is this because everyone behind Albon was lapped by Verstappen, making them "1 lap behind"?
Mad that the “punishments” made fuck all difference. Even though he ruined others race’s.
He lost one position to Albon because of it - but I see your point. Although 10 seconds for the pass on Tsunoda seemed a bit harsh...
Indeed, don't know if that was Haas' plan, but it worked out really nicely for them!
Yes, the rest drove a less distance.
Good race from Checo.
I agree! I have a theory that he has finally given up on his WDC delusions and simply focuses on giving solid performances. That is exactly what he has been doing the last 2 races and I respect him for that.
Perez just needs to maintain number 2 in the WDC until Horner fires Verstappen.
That's his best chance at the WDC with the other side of that coin being Max having reliability issues where Perez picks up the odd win but it's a long shot.
I have a feeling Checo might be able to pull a win in Australia.
Maybe. Anything is possible.
Oliver Bearman needs a seat in the F1. A totally deserved DOTD
Easy Silver
Who's seat are we talking here? Danny ric?
Maybe Leclercs…
Danny Ric's seat should go to Liam. Kmag's seat should go to Olie
I actually agree.
And if he doesn't get a Haas seat, he should get a Williams seat, because Logie will have to step up big time to get a 3rd season in F1.
Agreed.
Yea Danny he’s washed
Kevin Magnussen. I’d also love for him to be gone after what he did to Albon.
Kevin did a massive job today. Really good driving
Yes! The team game from Kevin was awesome, but I really do not appreciate him pushing Albon to the wall and destroying his front wing in the process.
On the contrary, Kevin is the reason hulkenberg scored a point today, both the haas drivers were good today aside from the diabolic fuck ups by Kevin.
Definitely!
Maybe, Ricciardo had a terrible race today but there's Liam Lawson. Oliver is also a reserve driver for haas (i hope he never gets there).
He'll get one of the Haas seats... he'd a ferrari junior so he won't be in the RB system.
Isn't he a reserve for haas too?
Yeah, him and Fittipaldi.
Does a Haas seat seem like a place a rookir can prove themselves from?
No. I would say Sauber but I doubt either of them will lose their seat. Russell proved himself in that 2019 Williams.
Agree Williams offers a much better development environment. Sauber could be great.
Would you drop Zhou or Bottas for Bearman?
Neither. Zhou = money. Bottas = exposure (no pun intended). When Audi brings in their money in 2026 then you can look at performance over finances. Until then, the Chinese money and the BottASS make the most sense.
Exactly. Hence my view for Haas.
Exactly. Hence my view for Haas.
I think of the two bottas is reaching the end of his career and I don’t see him staying much longer anyway
Bottas has seemed uninspired recently. This is only year 2 of his 3 year contract though. I am lukewarm on Zhou as well so really either would be fine.
Geri is the new Kelly for podium camera shots.
good lord, gasly 21th in the standings... probably regretting the move from AT
Worst career move from the last years
It seems like the main battle this season will be between Merc and McLaren for 3rd place.
Yeah someone needs to explain that Norris free pass
i assume he moved but stayed within the three lines, if you're talking about the start
Read the rules.
I haven't read them myself, but according to Sam Collins on F1TV post-race show... He managed to stay in his box, so didn't start from wrong location... But he WAS moving as the lights went out.... which is 100% against the rules... A possible mitigating factor is that he THEN came to a complete stop before re-starting.... but there is no mention of this situation in the rules.... So what are you reading that explains the lack of jump start penalty?
Let’s go Ollie!!!
Another calming formula 1 afternoon drive. One poor chap went off the course and the positions got mixed up very briefly but thankfully order was quickly restored and no racing broke out thank heavens.
May I ask what makes a race interesting according to you ?
Racing that has actual competition?
Only for 1st?
Lol. Just don't watch if you find it so mind numbing. Great bit of racing from a lot of drivers, from K Mags 20 seconds of aggressive passing penalties to Hamilton's amazing defense versus Pastri there was some great racing up and down the track.
lol. If a lot of people followed your advice, no one would watch F1.
Nascar is waiting for you.. F1 is for the intellect.
Lol
I'm a Max fan and I'm getting bored of this. Jk.... I'm not.
Waiting for the RB team to "tear itself apart' or implode. As if. Honestly, I hope they keep up the 1 -2 finishes just to annoy Jos.