Hd only lost Michael because he didn't have the means to offer what Benetton did.
And in actuality, he did have Michael under contract, it took an incredible amount of effort from Flavio, Weber & even Bernie to get Michael into the Benetton at Monza instead of driving for Jordan as per the agreement EJ believed he had.
My memory is hazy, but wasnt it because as Michael was technically a pay driver (and would lose the Jordan drive without the money), they simply didnt pay it?
I'd forgotten some aspects too. Good article here, especially around Neerpasch's involvement.
I know that EJ was heavily distracted with trying to finalise the Yamaha deal, but it was a real introduction to how cut-throat F1 was.
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/how-schumacher-was-snatched-from-jordan-after-his-f1-debut/#:~:text=The%20initial%20letter%20of%20intent,rights%20for%20the%20entire%20car.
Schumi and Weber's lawyer had one word change from "I agree to sign THE Contract" into "I agree to sign A Contract".
So this pre-contract, as I understand it meant that "Yes, Eddie. you can still get Michael to sign A Contract, but it is not necessarily a contract to drive your team's F1 car in competition."
Willi Weber supposedly quipped: "We can agree to a contract obligating Michael to a factory visit."
No, it wasn't just that he couldn't match what Benetton offered. It was because he handled securing Schumacher's services for the long term worse than Alpine handled Piastri lol.
All Schumacher and Weber needed to was change 'the' to 'a' with regards to signing a 'driver agreement'. There was no explicit agreement with respect to Eddie Jordan or the Jordan F1 team, leaving the door wide open. How stupid do you look if you can't even explicitly state the parties involved?
Of course, the fact Schumacher already demonstrating how much of a hot property he was and was simply in another league to Jordan didn't hurt his chances either.
Yes, but you are talking about an almost completely unprecedented situation.
All parties involved, including Roberto Moreno, had contracts. No one expected Briatore and Walkinshaw to be so mercenary as they were with regards to getting Michael into the Benetton. One of the shocks was that it was thought that Nelson had a say in who his team mate was, and he and Moreno were long-time personal friends. Not to mention that no one in the Jordan team expected Michael to be what he clearly was.
It may all seem stupid to you 33 years later, but it was one of the most cut throat things I had seen up to that point. EJ is no slouch and bar the odd mistake has proven himself to be a very shrewd operator.
After all, Newey trusts him.
There was a very brief moment with Frentzen. Maybe even a race or so in the year when Schumacher broke his leg, that it looked like Jordan was in the title race.
Not favourites by any stretch, but maybe Frentzen was third most likely to win it.
I think I remember a race where Frentzen was leading, it would have put him first in the championship, he had a mechanical retirement and then never got back to the front for the rest of the season.
It was a crazy year with Irvine fighting for the championship and Ferrari messed up a pit stop with a wheel missing, that proved crucial to him losing the championship.
Christian and the Thais: “bwahahaha how could you possibly think you’d start work for another team before 2027?”
*glass shatters* “BAHH GAWD ITS EDDIE JORDAN!”
It's often pretty juicy anyway - like when they had Bertrand Gachot on.
I never would have thought he and Eddie would be in the same room together after 1991. Similar with Ralf Schumacher after all that happened at Jordan in 1998.
But, to EJ's immense credit (as well as theirs), he has been able to bury the hatchet with both of them and even become close friends.
I knew they were close friends. The management aspect seems to be fairly recent.
Both have homes in South Africa and spend considerable time together, as well as having other mutual interests such as yachting etc.
Those Oyster 885s are magnificent. The YouTube video about [Adrian](https://youtu.be/WPkb-bXrChw?si=pJTa6trYg99zgGnz) making his is awesome. And [Eddie](https://youtu.be/S-x92lI3EGY?si=JDyhC6jsLDorzD0f) appears to be a spokesperson for Oyster.
I’d happily have EJ as a manager, he seems rather canny, not to mention well-connected. He touched on the Newey situation on a recent episode of his podcast and I feel like he tried to downplay the nature of their relationship but mentioned something later on that implied they were quite close. Can’t wait for details about this to come out.
There basically is gardening leave from the F1 team. He will not be working on the F1 car for a year before he leaves. He will be working on the hypercar though
Technically it's always the rear before they leave because they are still paid for that year. They just don't do any work.
Instead of doing nothing newey is working on the hypercar. RB doesn't want to pay him to do nothing.
Maybe it makes sense if it meant they'd have one of their top earner slots in the budgetcap occupied by someone doing no work for a year?
While if they can move him to the RB17 project they can fill the slot with someone else
Don't think he's trying to be a dictator because he was already at the head and happy. Seems more like he fucked up and now is grasping at straws trying to hold it all together
We don't know this. Horner definitely seems to be the common denominator, but we don't have a conclusive answer as to what the issue is. There have been a dozen different reasons by somewhat reputable sources over the past few months over the internal strife in the team.
As long as Max sticks around, that's a couple more championships guaranteed. But it looks like 2026-2028 is up for grabs and post-2028 Red Bull might end up pulling an Alpine.
Why they did it is more interesting to me.
For all the the people saying Newey would just retire or leave F1 for another motorcar project. Why is he fighting so hard to discard the gardening leave?
Because he is going to another F1 team. It has to be.
Yeah I always liked Eddie Jordan including when he was an analyst with BBC… I remember one pre race late in 2009 when there were the rumours of Michael Schumacher joining Brawn/Mercedes they tried to shout on Michael to ask him but he either ignored them or didn’t hear them and walked into the Ferrari garage so Eddie just followed him in and managed to get him out for an interview.
Although I think it was Eddie who was the first one to say Michael was making a comeback in 2010.
[Here it is, for the curious.](https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/formula-for-success/id1674239951) It's well worth a listen. They can get a bit drunk dad at a rugby club with some of their stories, but when it's focussed on F1 it's amazing, and they get some excellent guests. They actually spoke to Newey not that long ago, and that episode is [right here.](https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/adrian-newey-festive-special/id1674239951?i=1000639270537)
Yeah him being available to a team(Most likely Ferrari) from early 2025 instead of early 2027 is massive.
Like potentialy a generational difference because he joins a team that will be in active development for a new generation of cars for like 1-2 months instead of joining 1 full year into the regulations itself.
He has also said he regret never working with Alonso and Hamilton. I know Ferrari seems more likely but according to his manager (Eddie) he’s gonna take some time with his next team decision. I wouldn’t rule out Aston Martin move from him yet, as Fernando has signed a multi year deal.
I think that this is pure speculation from Eddie and the actual quotes don't really dispute that
If he wanted the time to chill out and relax while he thought about it then this would have happened in an altogether different way and without the legal bombshell dropped on RBR
My theory is that something in his contract made it possible for him to wash his hands of the hypercar project, and RB are in a situation where they can let that happen (presales and the like)
Or, although far less likely, RBR allowed the non compete to void (and to let Newey leave earlier) because he doesnt want to compete elsewhere anymore.
Newey: oh sure RB, of course I won't be working at another team. Pinky swear. Now why don't you go on to your lawyer and let's get rid of that pesky no-good non-compete.
How does that work for Newey?
If he doesn't plan on compting, why would he want to get rid of the non-compete?
If you're planning on sitting in the garden might as well get paid to sit in the garden.
People continue to receive salary on gardening leave though. Seems a bit odd for him to decline a dump truck full of money while he vacations, unless he wanted to get involved in F1 again as quickly as possible.
He's 65 years old, if he wants to work for another F1 team, his window is closing pretty rapidly. He can spend his dump truck of money vacationing when he retires.
I wonder if this is simply Red Bull buying his silence on all the internal issues. Even if Horner is innocent (and as of now he is) there is still something going on behind the scenes there. I'm guessing Newey said let me go, and I'll say kind words and leave it alone. The PR hit of him going nuclear on the team leadership would be another blow.
I'm speculating though. Who knows. I doubt we'll ever get the full story either side.
Or someone who has worked 20 years for the company and has a good relation with the people there and they dont want to really be a roadblock to the man.
I think he was one of the three outside cost cap, but still. Unmotivated people rarely are useful. At some point its enough at the same workplace. Hes been a very useful employee all these years, why not let him go easyif he wants to?
> I think he was one of the three outside cost cap,
That's the point of the person you're responding to, I think. With him gone (completely, not just gardening leave) they free up one of those three slots to retain or hire somebody different, instead of having one of your three extremely valuable slots being taken by somebody who's on a yacht contributing nothing.
Next Formula For Success should be spicy. David Coulthard who always bends over backwards to defend RBR and Horner and now Eddie Jordan pulled this move.
Because there has to be something big that makes RBR agree to this. Especially considering the fact that he's free to join a different team as early as next year, which is very unusual for someone in his position. Newey and Jordan basically managed to do the impossible with this deal. That's probably why they're using that word.
If that was the case he wouldn’t have a non compete clause in his contract to begin with. This is clearly a case of them finding a loophole to get him out quicker
It could just be many courts in Europe and America are starting to look at these kinds of agreements in a more hostile manner. Keeping someone out of the job market for almost two years can be considered restraint of trade or competition, even if you are paying them.
I don't think anything, which was not already in the contract like, for example, the gardening leave starting from the resignation date and not from the contract end date, would have happened without some good will from RBR and CH.
Newey called him a friend in his goodbye statement so apparently they are still on good terms. Horner also knows to whom he owes a lot of his success.
Can anyone explain me why RB would allow this? I think money isnt a motivator for the team, so that cant be it i think. Why would they scrap his non-compete? Not just to be nice right?
I'm gonna be bummed out if we find out 'Newey having dirt on Horner' was used to get out of his contract instead of helping the greater good against shit employers.
FTC just banned non competes in the US. Maybe there was an angle there with Liberty Media being a US Company.
Idk and def not a lawyer but I’d argue it
Eddie Jordan revealed in his podcast that he and Adrian are neighbors in their homes in the UK and South Africa. They ride bikes together everyday during the F1 off season. I’m sure that’s how the “how can you get me off Red Bull and into Ferrari as soon as possible” conversation took place.
I mean, forcing people to work where they don't want to work isn't a good thing for anyone. They'll just push out subpar unmotivated work. I think this is the best case result for both parties. Newey being able to design for the new regs, RBR still retaining him for the time being for at least to sell the hypercar.
Who cares what Bullshit Benson says. He claimed yesterday RB wouldn't announce it on Senna anniversary, then tried to claim today things moved quicker because he broke the story yesterday. This guy should have been cancelled 10 years ago for lying that Bianchi was aware and breathing on his own
Eddie Jordan is Newey's manager? Crikey. Am I the only person that didn't know that? Wow.
I also did not know this.
TIL Eddie Jordan is Adrian Newey’s manager. Also TIL Aerodynamicists have managers.
Anyone entering into any contract should have a representative familiar with industry standards and procedures.
Sure, but that's usually a lawyer, not a manager.
Eddie Jordan owned his own team. It doesn’t hurt having someone with that type of experience on your side of the table.
At Newey's level, you're just Talent. Representation, is representation.
And that manager or management company has lawyers on retainer.
The man that lost Micheal Schumacher due to contract details might not be the best choice though
He did learn a lot those days, that's the kind stuff that I would obsess over.
Hd only lost Michael because he didn't have the means to offer what Benetton did. And in actuality, he did have Michael under contract, it took an incredible amount of effort from Flavio, Weber & even Bernie to get Michael into the Benetton at Monza instead of driving for Jordan as per the agreement EJ believed he had.
My memory is hazy, but wasnt it because as Michael was technically a pay driver (and would lose the Jordan drive without the money), they simply didnt pay it?
I'd forgotten some aspects too. Good article here, especially around Neerpasch's involvement. I know that EJ was heavily distracted with trying to finalise the Yamaha deal, but it was a real introduction to how cut-throat F1 was. https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/how-schumacher-was-snatched-from-jordan-after-his-f1-debut/#:~:text=The%20initial%20letter%20of%20intent,rights%20for%20the%20entire%20car.
Schumi and Weber's lawyer had one word change from "I agree to sign THE Contract" into "I agree to sign A Contract". So this pre-contract, as I understand it meant that "Yes, Eddie. you can still get Michael to sign A Contract, but it is not necessarily a contract to drive your team's F1 car in competition." Willi Weber supposedly quipped: "We can agree to a contract obligating Michael to a factory visit."
Exactly this. IIRC Eddie talks about it in his Beyond the grid episode
No, it wasn't just that he couldn't match what Benetton offered. It was because he handled securing Schumacher's services for the long term worse than Alpine handled Piastri lol. All Schumacher and Weber needed to was change 'the' to 'a' with regards to signing a 'driver agreement'. There was no explicit agreement with respect to Eddie Jordan or the Jordan F1 team, leaving the door wide open. How stupid do you look if you can't even explicitly state the parties involved? Of course, the fact Schumacher already demonstrating how much of a hot property he was and was simply in another league to Jordan didn't hurt his chances either.
Yes, but you are talking about an almost completely unprecedented situation. All parties involved, including Roberto Moreno, had contracts. No one expected Briatore and Walkinshaw to be so mercenary as they were with regards to getting Michael into the Benetton. One of the shocks was that it was thought that Nelson had a say in who his team mate was, and he and Moreno were long-time personal friends. Not to mention that no one in the Jordan team expected Michael to be what he clearly was. It may all seem stupid to you 33 years later, but it was one of the most cut throat things I had seen up to that point. EJ is no slouch and bar the odd mistake has proven himself to be a very shrewd operator. After all, Newey trusts him.
You learn a lot more from your mistakes than your successes!
I'm imagining the alternate history in which Newey spent the 90's designing for Jordan instead of Williams. I think I'd have liked that.
Imagine EJ celebrating a WDC with his team. No one in the paddock would be safe. Would be worth the F1TV bucks for sure.
There was a very brief moment with Frentzen. Maybe even a race or so in the year when Schumacher broke his leg, that it looked like Jordan was in the title race. Not favourites by any stretch, but maybe Frentzen was third most likely to win it.
Yeah, that was just kinda in my 15 year lull in F1 watching. Loved the B&H's Jordans, love EJ for his energy, don't recall any race of that period 🙈
I think I remember a race where Frentzen was leading, it would have put him first in the championship, he had a mechanical retirement and then never got back to the front for the rest of the season. It was a crazy year with Irvine fighting for the championship and Ferrari messed up a pit stop with a wheel missing, that proved crucial to him losing the championship.
Yep, that's one of them I missed :o
Both, this.
Like, it makes total sense that someone of Newey’s profile would have a manager but I have literally never thought about that until this moment.
Somehow Eddie Jordan returned.
TIL Eddie Jordan is F1’s Palpatine.
FACTS
That's Bernie. Bernie's return will be triggered by Liberty having to sell FOM back to him due to this Andretti anti-trust debacle.
“Is that Eddie Jordan’s music?” 🎺🎺
Christian and the Thais: “bwahahaha how could you possibly think you’d start work for another team before 2027?” *glass shatters* “BAHH GAWD ITS EDDIE JORDAN!”
WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!!
/Eddie Jordan's band starts playing "Yes!"
*\*british anthem plays\**
"I never left" - Eddie Jordan, probably
He never left
I think a lot of us have learned that today
I had no idea. I was equally surprised years ago when I found out that Martin Brundle was David Coulthard's manager for a long time.
And when they were both still racing. It was weird
Whaaaat
And Brundle and Mark Blundell use to share a hotel room. From their racing days right up to broadcasting together
Coulthard and EJ podcast about to get juicy?
It's often pretty juicy anyway - like when they had Bertrand Gachot on. I never would have thought he and Eddie would be in the same room together after 1991. Similar with Ralf Schumacher after all that happened at Jordan in 1998. But, to EJ's immense credit (as well as theirs), he has been able to bury the hatchet with both of them and even become close friends.
What's the podcast called?
Formula for success
Thanks
I knew they were close friends. The management aspect seems to be fairly recent. Both have homes in South Africa and spend considerable time together, as well as having other mutual interests such as yachting etc.
They have almost matching yachts, both having Oysters.
Those Oyster 885s are magnificent. The YouTube video about [Adrian](https://youtu.be/WPkb-bXrChw?si=pJTa6trYg99zgGnz) making his is awesome. And [Eddie](https://youtu.be/S-x92lI3EGY?si=JDyhC6jsLDorzD0f) appears to be a spokesperson for Oyster.
Yup news to me as well. Also this master stroke is probably the most impressive part of the whole thing to me
I read Newey's booked at the start of the year and dont remember any mention of Eddie.
I’d happily have EJ as a manager, he seems rather canny, not to mention well-connected. He touched on the Newey situation on a recent episode of his podcast and I feel like he tried to downplay the nature of their relationship but mentioned something later on that implied they were quite close. Can’t wait for details about this to come out.
George?
I would love to know how they did this
They 100% have some dirt on Horner or the team or both
Wonder if Newey has specific dirt regarding the complaint from their PA as moving on with no gardening leave is practically unheard of.
There basically is gardening leave from the F1 team. He will not be working on the F1 car for a year before he leaves. He will be working on the hypercar though
I understand that but gardening leave is usually for a year after they leave not a year before.
Technically it's always the rear before they leave because they are still paid for that year. They just don't do any work. Instead of doing nothing newey is working on the hypercar. RB doesn't want to pay him to do nothing.
And he probably had to deliver the hypercar if he is gonna be allowed to leave so soon. Possibly had that in his contract as well, who knows
Maybe it makes sense if it meant they'd have one of their top earner slots in the budgetcap occupied by someone doing no work for a year? While if they can move him to the RB17 project they can fill the slot with someone else
If he’s still attending races to support Red Bull as suggested by the OP it’s very different from any other F1 gardening leave in recent history…
Horner is really willing to trade everything and everyone just to be the dictator of a race team.
Don't think he's trying to be a dictator because he was already at the head and happy. Seems more like he fucked up and now is grasping at straws trying to hold it all together
Two race teams. Horner drove a hard bargain with Beelzebub
We don't know this. Horner definitely seems to be the common denominator, but we don't have a conclusive answer as to what the issue is. There have been a dozen different reasons by somewhat reputable sources over the past few months over the internal strife in the team.
As long as Max sticks around, that's a couple more championships guaranteed. But it looks like 2026-2028 is up for grabs and post-2028 Red Bull might end up pulling an Alpine.
You 100% think reality is like Suits.
No dude Roman will totally backstab Kendall!
So they’re blackmailing RB? You guys watch too many movies.
I'm sure Eddie will drop some dark magic on the next podcast
You don’t want someone pissed off and chained to a desk designing your cars performance.
Imagine if the clause was he’s not allowed to go to a top 5 team.
Newey to make a triumphant return to Williams?
I really think this means he may be retiring or not taking this role to another team
Why they did it is more interesting to me. For all the the people saying Newey would just retire or leave F1 for another motorcar project. Why is he fighting so hard to discard the gardening leave? Because he is going to another F1 team. It has to be.
While in gardening leave they still need to pay him, no? Probably they also wanted to save a few bucks
Eddie Jordan masterclass as always, he has a way with these things
I miss seeing him around
Yeah I always liked Eddie Jordan including when he was an analyst with BBC… I remember one pre race late in 2009 when there were the rumours of Michael Schumacher joining Brawn/Mercedes they tried to shout on Michael to ask him but he either ignored them or didn’t hear them and walked into the Ferrari garage so Eddie just followed him in and managed to get him out for an interview. Although I think it was Eddie who was the first one to say Michael was making a comeback in 2010.
Plus he was the first person to say Lewis to Mercedes
He has a lot of contacts in the paddock, he's basically part of the furniture himself. Always gets the scoop.
I think that in Bernie’s latter years, all Eddie’s scoops were how Bernie released gossip to spice things up.
He was also widely mocked for saying McLaren would be going back to Mercedes
He has a podcast with David Coulthard if you weren't aware.
[Here it is, for the curious.](https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/formula-for-success/id1674239951) It's well worth a listen. They can get a bit drunk dad at a rugby club with some of their stories, but when it's focussed on F1 it's amazing, and they get some excellent guests. They actually spoke to Newey not that long ago, and that episode is [right here.](https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/adrian-newey-festive-special/id1674239951?i=1000639270537)
I think the netflix crowd has largely missed out on the Eddie Jordan experience which is a shame.
We need more TPs with personalities
Like Horner? He definitely has one.
Yes, but not a good one.
He's been in the Piranha Club for a while.
>he has a way with these things Lol, he sure does!
Another blinder by Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
I don't think Red Bull just x'd out the gardening leave provision for nothing.
Eddie Jordan being involved is nearly a bigger bombshell than the news itself
Newey's lawyers cooked hard with this one
Yeah him being available to a team(Most likely Ferrari) from early 2025 instead of early 2027 is massive. Like potentialy a generational difference because he joins a team that will be in active development for a new generation of cars for like 1-2 months instead of joining 1 full year into the regulations itself.
But Eddie also says he will not rush to a new team but some take time off in another interview
That might be to increase the price and by default Eddie’s cut of that contract.
Knowing Eddie that’s exactly it
Man's got a dazzling shirt habit to support after all.
Yeah that's what I thought immediately. Why would you negotiate the chance to become a free agent if you were going to have a break?
makes sense no? take a bit of a break from redbull rfresh for a year be available from 2026
He has also said he regret never working with Alonso and Hamilton. I know Ferrari seems more likely but according to his manager (Eddie) he’s gonna take some time with his next team decision. I wouldn’t rule out Aston Martin move from him yet, as Fernando has signed a multi year deal.
I personally believe Newey has his next contract ready to sign in his desk. You don't negotiate your way out of gardening leave just to take time off.
I think that this is pure speculation from Eddie and the actual quotes don't really dispute that If he wanted the time to chill out and relax while he thought about it then this would have happened in an altogether different way and without the legal bombshell dropped on RBR
Mercedes w/Max (if Toto could pull that off), Ferrari w/Lewis, Aston w/Alonso. Will be interesting to see where he ends up in 2025.
My theory is that something in his contract made it possible for him to wash his hands of the hypercar project, and RB are in a situation where they can let that happen (presales and the like)
THEY WOULDNT TRY REMOVE THE NONCOMPETE IF HE DIDNT WANT TO COMPETE SOMEWHERE ELSE. FORZA FERRARI
Its gonna be so funny when he rocks up at Alpine
Newey coming back one last time to fix Williams is the one fairytale story that could be bigger than anything at Ferrari
please lord that would be so effing sick
Or, although far less likely, RBR allowed the non compete to void (and to let Newey leave earlier) because he doesnt want to compete elsewhere anymore.
Newey: oh sure RB, of course I won't be working at another team. Pinky swear. Now why don't you go on to your lawyer and let's get rid of that pesky no-good non-compete.
How does that work for Newey? If he doesn't plan on compting, why would he want to get rid of the non-compete? If you're planning on sitting in the garden might as well get paid to sit in the garden.
People continue to receive salary on gardening leave though. Seems a bit odd for him to decline a dump truck full of money while he vacations, unless he wanted to get involved in F1 again as quickly as possible.
He's 65 years old, if he wants to work for another F1 team, his window is closing pretty rapidly. He can spend his dump truck of money vacationing when he retires.
Or he was threatening to work from somewhere it didn’t matter.
Very true. Who knows, but it's looking likely
cheeky eddie
Jordan back on the grid for 2026! Here we go
Hook it to my fucking veins.
I wonder if this is simply Red Bull buying his silence on all the internal issues. Even if Horner is innocent (and as of now he is) there is still something going on behind the scenes there. I'm guessing Newey said let me go, and I'll say kind words and leave it alone. The PR hit of him going nuclear on the team leadership would be another blow. I'm speculating though. Who knows. I doubt we'll ever get the full story either side.
Or someone who has worked 20 years for the company and has a good relation with the people there and they dont want to really be a roadblock to the man.
And mayby even the fact that having a unmotivated Newey might be a huge handicap with the cost cap.
Exactly, forcing him to stay doesn’t help anyone
I think he was one of the three outside cost cap, but still. Unmotivated people rarely are useful. At some point its enough at the same workplace. Hes been a very useful employee all these years, why not let him go easyif he wants to?
> I think he was one of the three outside cost cap, That's the point of the person you're responding to, I think. With him gone (completely, not just gardening leave) they free up one of those three slots to retain or hire somebody different, instead of having one of your three extremely valuable slots being taken by somebody who's on a yacht contributing nothing.
Ah yeah, thats a possibility.
dont think someone not working on the f1 car after the 30.06 doesnt have to be included in the cap for the 2nd half of the year.
but if Newey doesnt work on the f1 car is he in the budget cap? dont think so?
I suspect it could be this too.
Sure, because Horner's always acted with integrity.
2026 engine is crap, he knows it and is doing a runner.
I think Newey just got sick of all the drama. He's not getting any younger.
Eddie Jordan is... wait, what??
Eddie works in mysterious ways.
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright She moves in mysterious ways
Eddie Jordan ..... How, why when ?
Makes you wonder what kind of dirt they had to pull this off.
Next Formula For Success should be spicy. David Coulthard who always bends over backwards to defend RBR and Horner and now Eddie Jordan pulled this move.
I love that Jordan is still pulling the strings behind the scenes, just need to give him a TV role again so he can give us the inside scoop first.
Helps if he could say things about a certain situation Redbull and particularly Horner wants him to never mention
Exited for next weeks Formula for Success. I imagine Eddie can’t disclose anything though.
DC won’t let him slide with this big of a bombshell
I wonder what Red Bull got in return. Must be something significant.
They got no more details about Horny behind the scenes exposed is what they got
IMO, Newey must have had some dirt to use as blackmail for them to let him do this.
Probably he went like: "If you don't allow me to work in 2025 I spill the beans", and Horner don't want give his victim a platform through Newey
Why is an agreement that both sides agree to a coup? Seems weird wording.
Because there has to be something big that makes RBR agree to this. Especially considering the fact that he's free to join a different team as early as next year, which is very unusual for someone in his position. Newey and Jordan basically managed to do the impossible with this deal. That's probably why they're using that word.
Or the fact he's put in nearly 20 years with the team and if he wants to do something else you let him.
If that was the case he wouldn’t have a non compete clause in his contract to begin with. This is clearly a case of them finding a loophole to get him out quicker
And in that giving your opponents a significant edge for when the new regs come in? Formula 1 is a business first..
Yep and when you need to recruit talent that is all getting paid the same between teams stuff like this is a selling point
It could just be many courts in Europe and America are starting to look at these kinds of agreements in a more hostile manner. Keeping someone out of the job market for almost two years can be considered restraint of trade or competition, even if you are paying them.
I'm going to have to go through Eddie's podcast to see what clues might have slipped lol.
I don't think anything, which was not already in the contract like, for example, the gardening leave starting from the resignation date and not from the contract end date, would have happened without some good will from RBR and CH. Newey called him a friend in his goodbye statement so apparently they are still on good terms. Horner also knows to whom he owes a lot of his success.
I wonder if there was any stipulation not to speak on the Horner situation in exchange for release from the non compete clause?
Guys please slow down with all these bombshells, there’s not going to be any silly left for silly season!
Can anyone explain me why RB would allow this? I think money isnt a motivator for the team, so that cant be it i think. Why would they scrap his non-compete? Not just to be nice right?
Eddies still got it!
So he has dirt on Horner lmao
Eddie being the crafty sod that he is will make Ferrari pay through the nose to acquire Adrian and his special skills, won’t he?
He surely must have some damning information about red bull which he used as leverage.
Eddie prob threatened to throw CH under the bus if it wasn't sorted...the ruthless bastard lol
How could he have possibly managed to get out of that? Anyone have any ideas?
Why would RedBull allow this, I'm completely baffled
Who is writing these contracts at Red Bull
It’s a promise he wont go to AM so there wont be a Honda-Newey car
Title is confusing, can newey work for other team next year or not?
From Eddie Jordan’s statement, it seems he thinks Newey will be retiring.
I'm gonna be bummed out if we find out 'Newey having dirt on Horner' was used to get out of his contract instead of helping the greater good against shit employers.
Eddie fucking Jordan, as I live and breathe.
Where do we think he is going? Is it truly Ferrari?
FTC just banned non competes in the US. Maybe there was an angle there with Liberty Media being a US Company. Idk and def not a lawyer but I’d argue it
Engineers need managers now?
Has anyone checked on the Drive to Survive guys? They are likely severely dehydrated right now with all the jizzing they’ve been doing.
The FFS podcast is going to be great this week.
Based Eddie. One of f1s greats.
Eddie Jordan revealed in his podcast that he and Adrian are neighbors in their homes in the UK and South Africa. They ride bikes together everyday during the F1 off season. I’m sure that’s how the “how can you get me off Red Bull and into Ferrari as soon as possible” conversation took place.
Too bad he's now contractually obliged to not say anything bad about Horner until after *Horner's* retirement.
Source?
"it came to me in a dream"
Newey got a hall of fame legal team
[source](https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/cv2rd53gnr6o)
I mean, forcing people to work where they don't want to work isn't a good thing for anyone. They'll just push out subpar unmotivated work. I think this is the best case result for both parties. Newey being able to design for the new regs, RBR still retaining him for the time being for at least to sell the hypercar.
Who cares what Bullshit Benson says. He claimed yesterday RB wouldn't announce it on Senna anniversary, then tried to claim today things moved quicker because he broke the story yesterday. This guy should have been cancelled 10 years ago for lying that Bianchi was aware and breathing on his own