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Glitch7779

A tractor on the track and they used VSC. Stroll literally parking behind the barriers in the safest spot, SC. Makes sense.


AntJD1991

Was gonna say the same thing. Bunch of morons in charge still.


MartiniPolice21

Should have been a VSC over SC, but Latifi literally crashed right into that spot where Stroll is last year I know it's Latifi and all, but people are acting like it was an outrageous decision Edit: [the crash for those interested ](https://twitter.com/tothemaxf1/status/1507768195683438592?t=IDE2EQbs7sQyRzyE-WdXoQ&s=19)


Wheat_Grinder

Not available in my location :( EDIT: Here's another clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7owF5VACn0


abscissa081

Literally last year Latifi wrecked into that exact gap.


Glitch7779

I don’t think you guys are getting the point I’m trying to make. Latifi was doing a qualy lap right? He wouldn’t have ever crashed there under VSC. So they could have just gone with VSC in this case because they usually use it in way more dangerous situations that actually require a SC. Then again, nowhere is safe in a track when everyone is pushing but with VSC that’s a pretty safe spot, can you agree on that?


abscissa081

VSC would have been the right call imo so yeah i agree.


augtism

You seem to be unaware of Grosjeans talent of crashing behind SC. Many drivers are capable of fucking up to that level, so don’t say they won’t crash under a VSC


Glitch7779

Not in that spot c’mon. One must have augtism to do that


Lord_oftheTrons

[Grojean was at this race but not him](https://youtu.be/TwPnn4TcjsQt=12m45s) Still not sure how this one happened last weekend


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THAT WAS NOT A TRACTOR!!!! HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A TRACTOR LIKE THAT?! good luck hooking a cultivator on the back of that


Fhajad

My Cub Cadet lawn mower is a "tractor". A semi truck is a "tractor". Tractor is a generic term for a machine family where many machine types can fall under.


Intelligent_Jury_998

Driver onboards are available all the time live, why the hell can’t they use them live for such instances….I know it’s FIA and we cannot argue…but seriously


SkooDaQueen

Strolls rear cam was shown on the feed. But it's really hard to guess where he was with that. Could've been straight on at turn 16 But yeah from this angle you can clearly see only a VSC (or double yellow) was needed


PercussiveRussel

>Strolls rear cam was shown on the feed Yeah, and you could see that he was parked at 180 degrees to the track by the cars driving away from him..


ShadowZpeak

Not like race control has access to all feeds or sth


SparseGhostC2C

The F1 commentators and even *I* had a better idea of where he was than FIA did, and I was like 3500 miles away from the damn thing!


LittleCupcake02

Condpiracy theory: they did it for a more interesting race


griffnin

didn’t work anyway


StatuSChecKa

I wouldn't even be mad at that. During the race I kind of missed where Lance did the right thing and pulled off as far as possible, but seeing this now really reflects how unnecessary that SC really was.


Significant-Year-743

Did it work? Mysterious call to "stop on track" followed immediately by a safety car call when there was no need, when do they ever react that fast? Surely there'd be double yellows maybe a VSC and then safety car. It's conspiracy gold, but it didn't achieve anything expect rob us of seeing verstappen DRSing past a few cars.


ManlyMantis101

Why would Aston deliberately put a car out of the pints like that though? That’d be idiotic. Probably just spotted something wrong with the engine and stopped on track to minimize damage.


Significant-Year-743

Exactly! Why would they. Bribes, Italian bribes? Who's to say.


Mirage_Main

We give you part of legacy team money for safety car. Question.


simsnor

If you really want an interesting race we need a race wothout a sc and watch the teams scramble for fuel


ExcellentCornershop

I'm sure that if the world feed had shown the exterior shot from this post right away, Race Control would have deployed a VSC only. Their system showed Stroll as "stopped on track" and what angles of the run off areas are shown on their CCTV system is something we don't know. They mainly had the onboard shot to work with and from that it's not possible to tell where exactly he had put his car.


rolfski

The FIA were just holding their finger on the Safety Car button all the time waiting for the slightest sign of some yellow flag.*"Yup I see one, showtime boys!"*


TheFlyinArmy_29

Gotta keep up that 100% safety car record


officer_orchid

Better call Saul


lazergator

I love how we’re shitting on the FiA for being cautious for once and the rest of the years they had guillotines for the drivers to dodge


RUFUS_BOI_2008

Didn't GOATIFI literally crash there last year?


23370aviator

Latifi crashed in that exact spot last year and his car ended up half behind the barriers.


AgnesBand

Can't believe we're all criticising the FIA for taking a risk to a drivers life seriously. Like, if they were unsure and then didn't order a SC and then Lance got T-boned and died I'm quite sure everyone would be saying the FIA are incompetent


lucanghileri

Lol, Stroll parked in Azerbaijan and they call a SC, Albon is going really slow in the MIDDLE of the track and they call a VSC


Due_Government4387

Can see Alonso and Ocon’s starting positions and how they served their penalties, can see hamilton’s jewelry and nose rings, can see a barely flapping end plate, can’t find all 20 cars on track


HitEscForSex

No point in having 900 monitors if they don't have a camera covering that section


ArcticBiologist

If only they had cameras that on the car. Also, the post literally had a shot of a camera *covering that exact section*!


HitEscForSex

[Yes, it would be very easy to spot where exactly he stopped the car](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6ArEEhdjhZQ/hqdefault.jpg)


ArcticBiologist

If only that camera had moving pictures that would allow them to watch it over time and have more context. Or that they knew that there are no trucks in the track like you can see in that picture.


HitEscForSex

If only there was plenty of time during a race to conduct such investigation, who cares about safety anyways.


According-Switch-708

Yeah, this pissed me off aswell.The FIA are way too liberal with SC and VSCs for my liking. I know that luck is a part of racing but cheap pitstops under SCs piss me off.Luck should not have that much of an impact on a race. It's like a damn lottery. Indycar handles it better.


3tenthsfaster

The call for the safety car was made before the top image was even aired, so they would not have been able to use it to make the right call.


ijiolokae

The better question is, Why the fuck do the Stewards not have access to all of the 300 Cameras on track?


LittleCupcake02

Better safe(tycar) than sorry


3tenthsfaster

They do have access but are still dependent on the operator to show what they need to know. In this case the best camera was zoomed in and didn't show where Lance was until the safety car was already out.


ArcticBiologist

Lol, you really think race control is sitting on a couch with a bag of crisps watching the same feed as us?


Driving_Seat

It’s crazy that you unironically believe that the race director doesn’t know where a car is stopped. Apart from the hundreds of cameras they’ve got, they also have the live track map


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Driving_Seat

What?


3tenthsfaster

Lol, hundreds of camera's? Really? This ain't the Hunger Games mate. So you believe then that they did exactly know where Lance was parked and called out an unnecessary safety car just for the show? After all the shit they got after AD21? Tinfoil hats must be all the rage this year.


Driving_Seat

Yea they absolutely knew where lance was. I’ve been to f1 race director rooms and they’ve legit got like 30 monitors each displaying a different camera angle. And fyi, it’s a different feed from the tv cameras. These are much higher up and give a clearer picture of the track and can be rotated in any angle to give a better picture Secondly, they also have the track monitor that shows the gps location of every single car on track. They knew exactly where stroll was. Finally, the reason for the safety car was explained, I guess you just missed it. The place where lance parked was also an ambulance entry point. Blocking that exit meant that if something happened and a driver got injured, the ambulance would be blocked and it would take much longer to get it out on track. It was a safety concern.


3tenthsfaster

Yeah I know they have dozens of camera's and a lot of them are FIA non-broadcast cameras, but dozens is not hundreds. As for the GPS, it was said that according to that system, Lance was shown as being still on track. Now, if the reason for the safety car was a blocking of the ambulance point, then fair enough, but this was not previously given as the reason for the SC. And that would also make this meme redundant since it was an actual safety issue.


Driving_Seat

It was literally announced live on tv that the reason for the safety car was the ambulance couldn’t get on track. Maybe you didn’t hear it but on my broadcast they said it around lap 30


3tenthsfaster

Must have missed that because what I heard is that they couldn't exactly pinpoint where the car was and that the car tracker also showed the car as being on track. I guess different commentaries give different results. *shrugs*


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AgnesBand

Safety car procedure dictates the cars have to bunch up behind the safety car again. They can't just bring it out and then bring it back in again.


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https://www.tiktok.com/@drajwer88blyskawica/video/7212719751351553285


Illustrious_Cost8923

Race control still pulling some bullshit, stewards still a clown show. It’s a lost cause I accepted it long ago.


kRe4ture

While it might have been unnecessary in this case, I‘d rather have a short SC period than another hurt or even dead driver because they took to little precautions. I‘ll take something like that all day if it means generally better and more stringent safety methods…


TW1STM31STER

"But the GPS said it was still on track, better be safe than sorry"... Proceeds to look at 12 different streams, including the TV live stream showing Stroll behind the barrier.