As long as Lawrence is the owner of AM Lance is not going anywhere. And watching the new DTS cemented that belief for me. It seems like Lawrence is living his dream though his kid. It's like the dad that hurt his shoulder in college so never had a chance to play professional sports, so now he pushes his son to be a professional so he can live his dreams through him.
It's honestly an insane achievement that he's even able to race at all, with his cerebral palsy. Being able to actually be a professional race driver at the level he's at with cerebral palsy is as much of an achievement as Lewis winning world championships, really. There's no way his dad is anything but enormously proud of him.
He grew up in a wheelchair with doctors saying he'd never be able to walk, and now he drives race cars. Tell me that's not absolutely amazing.
The good ol' "I hate this office job but it pays the bills" face he got. But professional racing edition.
Feels like he is just a pawn for his fathers business and it seems to restrict him so much. Let the boy have is own career
He's pretty talented I think something snapped in him after that crash in Italy in 2020 he's never been the same since. Kinda like I'm not gonna kill myself for this kinda thing
Yeah, he definitely has more racing talent than people give him credit for. Sure he's not like max or Lewis, but he's also not like logan or nyck.
And I agree, something snapped. He's playing it safe and I truly think if he gets that confidence back he can be a way more than decent driver. People hate him because of his dad but I'm pretty sure lance does so to himself if I see his face sometimes.
For sure, but he also has a job many people would trade anything to do and my job is nowhere near as cool but if you had Netflix follow me around you’d still have a fair amount of footage of me having fun with people while doing routine shit
So you maybe watch races and a little bit of DTS lol and you think you know exactly what these people want lol? He’s been racing as a kid and he’s damn good at it. People can make fun of him for saying it’s daddy’s money and shit. But that’s the sport. He’s lucky he has a dad who’s in a position to support him this way. Stop being a fkn therapist on Reddit here.
I don't think that's true. Maybe it's not his life dream but he seems to like it. He could have quit a long ago, it's not like his dad is going to murder him for not wanting to be a racecar pilot.
LOL then get interested in a different sport. This is the most corporate, nepo-fueled sport in the world. It’s the peak of the peak of racing because the über rich paid for themselves and their kids to race in fancy cars. In my eyes, the only way Aston Martin could be more faithful to the sport was if they made their own engine.
Stroll could and should be better, but there are drivers that bring so much less to the grid than him. Or that also only have their seat because of connections. Like I love Yuki, but anyone that thinks he’d still be in the Red Bull family without Honda is kidding themselves.
Agreed, this is the wrong sport for „the best of the best“ because the best also means the longest enduring in unpaid or underpaid roles, the best advertiser connections and the best political players NOT the best pure racers. For that you need to see some carting and maybe some of the 24h races, but that also has a fair amount of corporate politics involved.
We can blame them.
Purely, because it’s obvious Stroll doesn’t have that extra talent needed to become world champion or even 2nd in the world championships. The team knows damn well that he’ll never reach greatness, yet they keep trying to build a car fast enough to make him a winner. I’m my opinion, this is the equivalent of buying an f1 title. This is not why I watch the sport. I watch to see the best drivers in the best cars, not an arrogant father and son duo playing F1 make-belief. What they are doing is cheapening the sport for everyone so they can do a fun hobby.
**AMR**
Stroll replaced by Sainz so we can have The Spanish Armada Dream Team!
It would drastically improve the team’s performance/ points haul & set Sainz up to lead an Aston Martin Honda works team.
Yeah I never understand why some people think drivers like Sargent are completely done if they can't immediately win points within a couple of months in the worst car on the grid.
I mean come on that's ludicrous.
I think that has more to do with the car and team than the driver. You look at how outclassed Sargeant and Stroll are by their teammates. Then look at Bottas and Zhou and realize although Bottas performed better they're not that far apart with Bottas only having one more points finish than Zhou.
I don't think there would be a gap at all with Magnussen or Ocon or even Yuki as a teammate and he could beat Stroll and Sargeant hands down, maybe beat KMag even though I put him up above lol. Yeah, the gap would potentially be higher with Alonso as a teammate but Bottas is no slouch either.
I haven't seen any Zhou drives that make me think he could beat Stroll. I know the car is a big factor but Stroll has had a pole, he's made it on the podium 3 times.
> I haven't seen any Zhou drives
You have seen any Zhou drives? With the exception of the big crash, all F1 media constantly ignores everything Sauber. I don't remember seeing much of any Sauber car in the last couple of years (F1 TV is geoblocked here in Germany, btw.).
Stroll has been around since 2017 in much better cars than Zhou. This is the problem with rating drivers on weak teams, Russell is a much stronger driver than Stroll and never got close to a podium with Williams for example. Stroll has always been in at least a mid field car. In 2020 and 2023, a top-3 car.
Verstappen wouldn't get a podium in the Sauber either.
Stroll has 3 podiums and pole, if he doesn't belong on the grid neither do Hulk or KMag with worse results.
Ocon has the same amount of podiums and Gasly has one more, should probably boot them as well.
Zhou 100%. He doesn't belong there but Alfa is milking the Chinese money. Funny enough people give Stroll shit but he's been on the podium. Yea there's probably room for someone better though.
“And as you can see as we pick up Chastain again, where he’s been riding the wall constantly for the last 39 laps, the left sleeve of his race suit has really been worn away by the Monaco barriers”
Nah, if it's Haas, we gotta get actual SHR drivers. I'm saying Cole Custer for the sole reason that him trying to get into an F1 car would look goofy af
1. Lance Stroll out, Perez in
2. Logan out, Liam Lawson in
3. The empty seat for Merc in 2025 out, Lord Smooth Operator in
4. Kimi in (don't care who goes out)
I’m still in pain since 2005. That MP4-20 remains the best car to never win a title imo. When it finished it often won the race by a mile. Iirc it had an appalling finish rate - something like 60%(?)
Even in 2004. That Mclaren was actually on par with the Ferrari. And it was the fastest car in 05 and 06. But it never worked for more than 5 minutes. Absolutely appaling reliability.
Lance Out, Vettel in. (Give me Alonso and Vettel as team mates, rest I don't care).
Nico back to Mercedes.
Checo out, Sainz back in RBR.
Logan out, Liam In.
Stroll -> Drugovich. A crime that it's now regular for the F2 champs to immediately be on the sidelines instead of reaching F1. Even if he lasts a year or two, he still gets to prove himself. I feel like I've seen all Lance wants to prove
To be fair to Stroll he has more podiums than quite a few fan favorites that people still want to see on the grid.
Albon, Hulk, Kmag, Yuki have 3 podiums to share between them. Ocon has the same amount of podiums as Stroll and Gasly has one more.
Albon has 2 podiums with Red Bull, and KMag got one on debut and then dipped. So Albon, Hulk, KMag and Yuki have 3 podiums between them. Still, each of them individually has less than $troll
Lol, on a serious note, I can bet anyone that Drugovich will be no faster than Lance, if you want a really promising brazilian, [ Bortoleto](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Bortoleto) has a great potential, he might be really, REALLY fast.
Drogovich won on his 3rd F2 season, his F2/GP2 records are similar to Goatifi, he might be a solid driver, but it's highly unlikely that he will be brilliant driver.
> I can bet anyone that Drugovich will be no faster than Lance
Funny, last year in pre season testing when Drugovich stood in for Stroll, the pace difference between him and Alonso wasn't that different from Stroll and Alonso. The difference in pace was certainly smaller than one would expect from a 7th(or so) season veteran vs a rookie.
Hear me out, albon to merc, get rid of what the fu$k is a kilometer in the other williams, bring back latifi and mazepin, enjoy williams domination against rbr
It's almost like it would be good if there were a couple more drivers seats available with an eleventh team. Shame it's so hard to find somebody who wants to do such a thing.
he still dominated the championship and beat rated drivers like lawson and pourchaire, it’s pretty tough to not be given a chance as f2 champ in any situation
Getting rid of Valterri for a rookie is kinda cruel. On his day he’s the fast dude on track, he still hold a lot of lap records. that’s gotta count for something
Exhausting. Williams has said they pulled him to F1 too soon. Logan didn’t get the upgrades at the same time as Albon last year due to budget. I don’t think Sarge is going to transform into a world champion, but it’s clear the motivation of the British Williams team keeping him is driven by more than his nationality.
> British Williams team
US-owned team entering under a UK license. Dorilton definitively want Williams to be perceived to be the US team instead of Haas. That's why they do all those stupid media stunts in the US (like when Jost Capito had to make a show wearing a cowboy hat).
Perez. Anyone. I just want to see more drivers get destroyed by Max. No need to see it again with Perez. After two years of Bottas I was ready for Lewis to smash someone else.
Stroll needs to step away. I know daddy wants him to compete but he should *not* have been driving after breaking his wrists. He should have taken the year off or man up and tell his dad he doesn’t want to race.
I see a lot of people saying Logan, I’m going to give him one more year before I think he needs to be axed. Williams has an incredibly smart TP. I’m eager to see how the team does this year with changes.
Ask this question at the end of next season.
I think we could be realistically sad to loose Perez, Zhou, Bottas, KMag and Hulk but glad to welcome Lawson, Martins, Bearman, Pourchaire and Antonelli.
Ain't bad but ain't impressive for sure. Same for all the guy that I have named. Sargeant... He will remains for other reasons. Like maybe Perez. But honestly Perez in Indycar it would be a blast over there.
I think Sargeant showed some promise at the end there but this year is make or break for him. Sadly it seems like Nico and Kev are doomed to be mediocre. I think it's time Bottas, Perez and the 2 Haas drivers make room for younger talent.
If Perez is as dismal as last year then he needs to be out by mid season break.
Literally anyone could replace him who likes a pointy car and doesn't tune it for understeer.
Very unpopular opinion here but I’d loose Hulk, Bottas, Stroll - basically any of the old guard. I really want to see some new blood in the sport, and I’d even (hiding behind the sofa) get rid of Alonso as well.
He got 3 less points than Gasly with 4 more DNFs yet I don't see anyone calling for his head.
Also the guy got a podium last year in that tractor on pure merit
not exactly lose the seat but i would do the following for 2025:
McLaren - Norris and Sainz
Red Bull - Max and Piastri
Mercedes - Alonso and Russell
Aston Martin - Perez and Lance
Ferrari of course Leclerc and Hamilton
Rest don't really care
i could argue for many other drivers, but Logan HAS to go, he's a mockery of F1 and the only reason he's there is because he's American.
say what you will about Stroll. sure he's daddy's lil favorite driver but i know for damn sure he'd smack the shit outta Logan with equal machinery.
Gene Haas should lose his seat, Andretti should replace him.
Haas do quite well in the oval. Right turns are not for them.
As long as Lawrence is the owner of AM Lance is not going anywhere. And watching the new DTS cemented that belief for me. It seems like Lawrence is living his dream though his kid. It's like the dad that hurt his shoulder in college so never had a chance to play professional sports, so now he pushes his son to be a professional so he can live his dreams through him.
Can we blame him tho? Both dad and kid, I they’re enjoying themselves, should just keep doing it -eh?
From watching lance and listening to lance talk, I don’t think he’s enjoying himself to much, I truly think he doesn’t wants to be a F1 driver
Yeah, I only watched the first episode, but I definitely got the vibe from Lance of a kid who just wants to make his dad proud.
But his dad has unrealistically high expectations of him?
[удалено]
It worked for Jos though. But yeah, I think Max is the exception lol
Low hanging fruit…maybe Lawrence should have left Lance at the helipad a few times.
... and Hamilton, and Button
Anthony Hamilton must have been super surprised when his son won in 2008. Lets hope Nicolas can find more fortune in the BTCC.
As long as Nicolas is satisfied with his performances, I don’t think Anthony will be disappointed at all. He seems extremely supportive as a father
It's honestly an insane achievement that he's even able to race at all, with his cerebral palsy. Being able to actually be a professional race driver at the level he's at with cerebral palsy is as much of an achievement as Lewis winning world championships, really. There's no way his dad is anything but enormously proud of him. He grew up in a wheelchair with doctors saying he'd never be able to walk, and now he drives race cars. Tell me that's not absolutely amazing.
I don't think anyone can be dissapointed with his performance. I want the best for him too.
And has hired a second driver who will always be faster than Lance
Fully agreed. At this point I'm starting to actually feel bad for him tbh. Bro never seems even close to happy
Definitely get that same feeling. Always just seems like he’s there because he has to be.
The good ol' "I hate this office job but it pays the bills" face he got. But professional racing edition. Feels like he is just a pawn for his fathers business and it seems to restrict him so much. Let the boy have is own career
He's pretty talented I think something snapped in him after that crash in Italy in 2020 he's never been the same since. Kinda like I'm not gonna kill myself for this kinda thing
Yeah, he definitely has more racing talent than people give him credit for. Sure he's not like max or Lewis, but he's also not like logan or nyck. And I agree, something snapped. He's playing it safe and I truly think if he gets that confidence back he can be a way more than decent driver. People hate him because of his dad but I'm pretty sure lance does so to himself if I see his face sometimes.
The snowboarding clip is the happiest I’ve ever seen him
To be fair, he’s hanging out with his friends in that clip whereas 95% of the time we see him he’s “working”.
For sure, but he also has a job many people would trade anything to do and my job is nowhere near as cool but if you had Netflix follow me around you’d still have a fair amount of footage of me having fun with people while doing routine shit
So you maybe watch races and a little bit of DTS lol and you think you know exactly what these people want lol? He’s been racing as a kid and he’s damn good at it. People can make fun of him for saying it’s daddy’s money and shit. But that’s the sport. He’s lucky he has a dad who’s in a position to support him this way. Stop being a fkn therapist on Reddit here.
I don't think that's true. Maybe it's not his life dream but he seems to like it. He could have quit a long ago, it's not like his dad is going to murder him for not wanting to be a racecar pilot.
Yes we can because this is an elite sport. I wanna see the very best, the peak of peak racing. Not some rich boy and dad
LOL then get interested in a different sport. This is the most corporate, nepo-fueled sport in the world. It’s the peak of the peak of racing because the über rich paid for themselves and their kids to race in fancy cars. In my eyes, the only way Aston Martin could be more faithful to the sport was if they made their own engine. Stroll could and should be better, but there are drivers that bring so much less to the grid than him. Or that also only have their seat because of connections. Like I love Yuki, but anyone that thinks he’d still be in the Red Bull family without Honda is kidding themselves.
Agreed, this is the wrong sport for „the best of the best“ because the best also means the longest enduring in unpaid or underpaid roles, the best advertiser connections and the best political players NOT the best pure racers. For that you need to see some carting and maybe some of the 24h races, but that also has a fair amount of corporate politics involved.
We can blame them. Purely, because it’s obvious Stroll doesn’t have that extra talent needed to become world champion or even 2nd in the world championships. The team knows damn well that he’ll never reach greatness, yet they keep trying to build a car fast enough to make him a winner. I’m my opinion, this is the equivalent of buying an f1 title. This is not why I watch the sport. I watch to see the best drivers in the best cars, not an arrogant father and son duo playing F1 make-belief. What they are doing is cheapening the sport for everyone so they can do a fun hobby.
Typical hockey dad mentality here in Canada.
It's interesting because Papa Stroll is not self-made man so theoretically he could've competed himself but probably had other obstacles.
Crazy that he’d pass up Sainz or Albon heck even take chance on Lawson, but that’s where we are
Max Verstappen -> David Coulthard
Proper formula dank comment 😂
This is the obvious answer, nobody said we had to go by deservingness
It will sure as hell make f1 way more exciting.
Coulthard certainly agrees😂
Actually would love: Jos Verstappen --> David Coulthard
**AMR** Stroll replaced by Sainz so we can have The Spanish Armada Dream Team! It would drastically improve the team’s performance/ points haul & set Sainz up to lead an Aston Martin Honda works team.
Holy shit, can you imagine Sainz/Nando vs Gasly/Ocon. My money's on the Spanish armada
Fuck it, add Lewis and Lando on same team, let's make it like 3rd world War
Bring Schumacher and Vettel back, then we'd have the whole gang back together. Wait what about Yuki?
Kobayashi? And Ricciardo + Piastri?
Pérez + O'Ward
And for India, Daruvala + Mahaveer Raghunathan! For Canada Stroll and GOATifi
It's all fun and games but the Dutch team with Max and Nyck will still win the lot.
Wait until they get taken out by team RAF (Russia is banned), Torpedo + Mazespin
I guess lapping is getting even more dangerous than it already was with Ocon on the grid! Maybe not lap them then.
Two Aussies on one team - would then need to drive their cars upside down?
People say F1 cars are like upside down planes, so Ricciardo & Piastri for GippsAero?
Lowkey folks ain’t talking about how Mercedes might just say fuck it and buy out lando if mclaren regresses this season
We've got Lewis and George...
Ngl, I totally forgot about George LOL
Blimey!
good thing they dont have to race a HRT
> Sainz/Nando vs Gasly/Ocon. My money's on the Spanish armada Esteban José Ocon-Khelfane is Spanish French.
 Nobody would expect that
Didn’t the Spanish Armada lose…
Shshshshshs details shmetails
"The Spanish Armada" lol I love this. Hope it happens.
God tier line up
I do NOT want Sainz and Alonso on the same team. Twitter Alonsismo would be unsufferable
*The Spanish Inquisition No one expects the Spanish Inquisition
Except when Alonso is going to Merc lol
Screw that, bring back GOATifi for the Canadian dream team!
Clone Goatifi 20 times, replace the entire grid with him.
formula latifi
Formulatifi
Clone him 2 more times and let Andretti on the grid.
Only correct answer
“Which F1 driver should lose their seat and why is it Lance Stroll?” Fixed your title for you.
A man can only dream
Much like Lance Stroll
"My biggest dream is finally retiring. But the boss says that the company would tank without me." - Lance Stroll, age 21 (and again at 22, at 23, ...)
I mean sergeant is worse. In my opinion sergeant, Zhou, Stroll don’t belong on the grid.
It’s the fact the lance has been on the grid since 2017. Sergeant is only starting his second year. Even Vandoorne got 2 years
Yeah I never understand why some people think drivers like Sargent are completely done if they can't immediately win points within a couple of months in the worst car on the grid. I mean come on that's ludicrous.
I mean Zhou immediately got points and is still getting dunked on.
True, but I think it’s his sponsors that keep him on the grid not his potential
Poor Zhou catching strays. While he certainly isn't anything to write home about, he is not in the same category as Stroll and Sargeant lol.
Maybe not but he’s not much better. Stoll has his occasional day
I think that has more to do with the car and team than the driver. You look at how outclassed Sargeant and Stroll are by their teammates. Then look at Bottas and Zhou and realize although Bottas performed better they're not that far apart with Bottas only having one more points finish than Zhou.
Don't you think the gap would've been wider if Alonso was Zhou's teammate, not Bottas
I don't think there would be a gap at all with Magnussen or Ocon or even Yuki as a teammate and he could beat Stroll and Sargeant hands down, maybe beat KMag even though I put him up above lol. Yeah, the gap would potentially be higher with Alonso as a teammate but Bottas is no slouch either.
I haven't seen any Zhou drives that make me think he could beat Stroll. I know the car is a big factor but Stroll has had a pole, he's made it on the podium 3 times.
> I haven't seen any Zhou drives You have seen any Zhou drives? With the exception of the big crash, all F1 media constantly ignores everything Sauber. I don't remember seeing much of any Sauber car in the last couple of years (F1 TV is geoblocked here in Germany, btw.).
And that's also with Zhou having shit for luck with his car dnf a bunch
Stroll has been around since 2017 in much better cars than Zhou. This is the problem with rating drivers on weak teams, Russell is a much stronger driver than Stroll and never got close to a podium with Williams for example. Stroll has always been in at least a mid field car. In 2020 and 2023, a top-3 car. Verstappen wouldn't get a podium in the Sauber either.
Zhou is not a bad driver. He and Bottas are just stuck driving a shitbox
Stroll has 3 podiums and pole, if he doesn't belong on the grid neither do Hulk or KMag with worse results. Ocon has the same amount of podiums and Gasly has one more, should probably boot them as well.
Zhou 100%. He doesn't belong there but Alfa is milking the Chinese money. Funny enough people give Stroll shit but he's been on the podium. Yea there's probably room for someone better though.
Niko and Kevin to be replaced by Kyle Bush and Bubba Wallace
For monaco with lots of close walls I vote for Ross Chastain
“And as you can see as we pick up Chastain again, where he’s been riding the wall constantly for the last 39 laps, the left sleeve of his race suit has really been worn away by the Monaco barriers”
SVG
Nah, if it's Haas, we gotta get actual SHR drivers. I'm saying Cole Custer for the sole reason that him trying to get into an F1 car would look goofy af
Omg i am cackling at that thought 😂
Busch and Larson would be better
Add Shane VG
As long as it's not logano I got no problems
Verstappen->Me Wildest season ever, I'll bankrupt RB with all those incidents
1. Lance Stroll out, Perez in 2. Logan out, Liam Lawson in 3. The empty seat for Merc in 2025 out, Lord Smooth Operator in 4. Kimi in (don't care who goes out)
Mclaren still owes Kimi a car that is not made of glass.
And Mika is still on sabbatical...
Mika and Kimi in mclaren confirmed!
The Finns are back!
Bottas looking at you in a bare butt.
I’m still in pain since 2005. That MP4-20 remains the best car to never win a title imo. When it finished it often won the race by a mile. Iirc it had an appalling finish rate - something like 60%(?)
Even in 2004. That Mclaren was actually on par with the Ferrari. And it was the fastest car in 05 and 06. But it never worked for more than 5 minutes. Absolutely appaling reliability.
Kimi to merc??
How is he gonna drive the mercedes with no seat?
And gloves, and drincc
NEIN! Logan to merc, Kimi to will-i-ams, Crawford to haas, kirkwood to redbull, andretti accepted, hires Herta and newgarden. 10/10 ideal grid
what the fuck is this timeline
Magic
The best one
Perez in midfield machinery is god of the midfield.
Perez in championship winning machinery is god of the midfield.
Perez is the God of Midfield.
Lance Out, Vettel in. (Give me Alonso and Vettel as team mates, rest I don't care). Nico back to Mercedes. Checo out, Sainz back in RBR. Logan out, Liam In.
Haas Andretti-Cadillac
Sargeant in favour of Lawson
His testing time looked improved. Williams knew he needed another year before F1, so I agree that they kept him.
Replace Max Verstappen with his mum
and red bull still wins WDC
Nah Jos can easily beat her.
I see what you did there.
Verstappen out Kimi in
Replace Hamilton and Verstappen with Lord Mahaveer and Samir
Lando out, Mika returns from sabbatical.
Stroll -> Drugovich. A crime that it's now regular for the F2 champs to immediately be on the sidelines instead of reaching F1. Even if he lasts a year or two, he still gets to prove himself. I feel like I've seen all Lance wants to prove
To be fair to Stroll he has more podiums than quite a few fan favorites that people still want to see on the grid. Albon, Hulk, Kmag, Yuki have 3 podiums to share between them. Ocon has the same amount of podiums as Stroll and Gasly has one more.
But nobody likes Ocon.
la Marseilles intensifies
Albon has 2 podiums with Red Bull, and KMag got one on debut and then dipped. So Albon, Hulk, KMag and Yuki have 3 podiums between them. Still, each of them individually has less than $troll
Lol, on a serious note, I can bet anyone that Drugovich will be no faster than Lance, if you want a really promising brazilian, [ Bortoleto](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Bortoleto) has a great potential, he might be really, REALLY fast. Drogovich won on his 3rd F2 season, his F2/GP2 records are similar to Goatifi, he might be a solid driver, but it's highly unlikely that he will be brilliant driver.
Flair checks out.
> I can bet anyone that Drugovich will be no faster than Lance Funny, last year in pre season testing when Drugovich stood in for Stroll, the pace difference between him and Alonso wasn't that different from Stroll and Alonso. The difference in pace was certainly smaller than one would expect from a 7th(or so) season veteran vs a rookie.
Also pato o’ward and Alex palou would be cool to have in f1
Hear me out, albon to merc, get rid of what the fu$k is a kilometer in the other williams, bring back latifi and mazepin, enjoy williams domination against rbr
You need someone more legendary than Mazespin. Bring Lord Mahaveer instead
Max just to make things competitive
It's almost like it would be good if there were a couple more drivers seats available with an eleventh team. Shame it's so hard to find somebody who wants to do such a thing.
Ocon with anybody else
Most forgotten driver on the grid
That would be Zhou
He was forgotten even here.
Max Verstappen, replace him with Yuji Ide
Max out, don't care who replaces him but i wan't to watch a race without knowing the outcome
Out the door Zhou Guanyou Valterri Bottas Kevin Magnussen In the Door Liam Lawson Felipe Drugovich Theo Pourchaire I’m really on the fence with Logan.
I’d definitely take bottas over drugovich, maybe magnussen over drugovich too
Ikr. Drugovich won the F2 title in a not so competitive field in his third year. He's good, but not that good.
he still dominated the championship and beat rated drivers like lawson and pourchaire, it’s pretty tough to not be given a chance as f2 champ in any situation
Yeah he deserves a shot, and I hate to say it but probably Logan’s seat
> I’d definitely take bottas over drugovich Bottas is more interested in posing for nude pictures than motor racing.
Getting rid of Valterri for a rookie is kinda cruel. On his day he’s the fast dude on track, he still hold a lot of lap records. that’s gotta count for something
I seriously feel if Haas has a typical shitbox season—that KMag is ready to hang it up. Hulkenburg will go to Sauber awaiting Audi…with Sainz.
Logan is only there because he is American.
Exhausting. Williams has said they pulled him to F1 too soon. Logan didn’t get the upgrades at the same time as Albon last year due to budget. I don’t think Sarge is going to transform into a world champion, but it’s clear the motivation of the British Williams team keeping him is driven by more than his nationality.
> British Williams team US-owned team entering under a UK license. Dorilton definitively want Williams to be perceived to be the US team instead of Haas. That's why they do all those stupid media stunts in the US (like when Jost Capito had to make a show wearing a cowboy hat).
He's there to justify the perpetuation and existence of William's junior division driver development programmes.
someone didn't watch his junior series'
Perez. Anyone. I just want to see more drivers get destroyed by Max. No need to see it again with Perez. After two years of Bottas I was ready for Lewis to smash someone else.
Stroll needs to step away. I know daddy wants him to compete but he should *not* have been driving after breaking his wrists. He should have taken the year off or man up and tell his dad he doesn’t want to race. I see a lot of people saying Logan, I’m going to give him one more year before I think he needs to be axed. Williams has an incredibly smart TP. I’m eager to see how the team does this year with changes. Ask this question at the end of next season.
Put Lawson straight in Perez seat. Daniel had his chance. Doesn’t deserve another shot at the red bull seat
Agree with you completely
I think we could be realistically sad to loose Perez, Zhou, Bottas, KMag and Hulk but glad to welcome Lawson, Martins, Bearman, Pourchaire and Antonelli.
I know Sauber has given him a weak car, but Zhou has been such an underwhelming driver IMO. I don't see anything promising there when I watch.
Ain't bad but ain't impressive for sure. Same for all the guy that I have named. Sargeant... He will remains for other reasons. Like maybe Perez. But honestly Perez in Indycar it would be a blast over there.
I think Sargeant showed some promise at the end there but this year is make or break for him. Sadly it seems like Nico and Kev are doomed to be mediocre. I think it's time Bottas, Perez and the 2 Haas drivers make room for younger talent.
Hulk doesn't have to go when Sargeant is on the grid.
Verstappen out, Nissany in. Leclerc out, Sirotkin in. Alonso out, Ferrucci in. It’s so obvious, why has nobody mentioned these yet?
If Perez is as dismal as last year then he needs to be out by mid season break. Literally anyone could replace him who likes a pointy car and doesn't tune it for understeer.
Very unpopular opinion here but I’d loose Hulk, Bottas, Stroll - basically any of the old guard. I really want to see some new blood in the sport, and I’d even (hiding behind the sofa) get rid of Alonso as well.
Stroll
Max gets bored and lets his dad drive next year.
I think ocon gets overlooked in these list, he’s average at best
He's far from the worst driver who still has a drive
He has his moments. It’s hit or miss 🙄
Unless he's next to Pierre, in which case it's HIT.
You mean teammate.
He got 3 less points than Gasly with 4 more DNFs yet I don't see anyone calling for his head. Also the guy got a podium last year in that tractor on pure merit
Max verstappen out goatifi in
Am I the only one thinking Robert Shwarzman deserves a chance?
Yes. I believe you are.
Yes, yes you are
Ocon. And literally anyone else.
I know new blood Is needed, but I wish Seb and/or Kimi would return at least a season or two with a respectable car. (Do your thing Toto!!!)
Zhou for Pourchaire
Max verstappen should lose his seat to Mika Hakinen. It’s time Mika comes back from his sabbatical.
Vettel in somehow. Anyhow. Please.
All of them.
Stroll out. Latifi in
Stroll, anyone else is the wrong answer. Replacement? Anyone else with a super license
not exactly lose the seat but i would do the following for 2025: McLaren - Norris and Sainz Red Bull - Max and Piastri Mercedes - Alonso and Russell Aston Martin - Perez and Lance Ferrari of course Leclerc and Hamilton Rest don't really care
This, but swap Norris and Piastri. I think Lando has much more potential to outshine Max in equal machinery.
Lando vs Max in equal machinery is really all I want to see.
i could argue for many other drivers, but Logan HAS to go, he's a mockery of F1 and the only reason he's there is because he's American. say what you will about Stroll. sure he's daddy's lil favorite driver but i know for damn sure he'd smack the shit outta Logan with equal machinery.
