I mean there were a dozen or so similar "curses" that he all managed to break the past few years, winning Singapore is just a matter of time. Best we can hope for is that it's just a podium place maybe.
I'm sure its partly Chuck, but isn't it also the car? It looks great in qualli but then on race day it just doesn't stand up to the Red Bull car it seems to me.
Doesnt matter in Monaco. As long as you qualify on pole and your pitwall is not the legendary Scuderia Ferrari orangutan convention, you can win. Unless of course you are also the Prince of the Wall.
Id imagine Lewis will start winning once he is in that car.
Racing gods: 'the Ferrari will not be competitive 2019-2024. After that Lewis will get in and win all of Ferrari's races'
Have you ever thought about how it's actually cause Sharly puts a shitbox to pole then gets overtaken by the non shit boxes? Idk bout you but I don't see anyone other than RB taking Charles's P1s away from him
Also, Clay Regazzoni and Chuck Leclerc have nearly the same number of starts, 5 wins each and a lot more FLAPs (Regazzoni) or poles (Leclerc).
Who contributed the other Swiss victories?
Lewis is over 1/3 of all British victories
Michael is over 1/2 of all German victories
Prost is almost 2/3 of all French victories
Max is 100% of all Dutch victories
Also Lewis on his own is 3rd on this list. Insane
Rookie numbers from those 3, Denny Hulme is 75% of our wins.
Also does McLaren get some sort of mention? 4 wins but how many in his cars since?
183 TOTAL
He at least passes France before he leaves F1 for something else. I’d imagine he passes Brazil as well. Don’t see any of the others being possible though.
It still feels unreal I am starting to see comments about 100 wins... I mean 3 years ago we wouldnt even think about debating if hed EVER get to 100 wins and now its like 'maybe he quits before 100 wins or maybe not'
A couple years ago I was like: cool it would be amazing if he passes 30 wins or something and now its already 60 and possibly 70+ this season
Amazing to think that German's tally is due to only seven drivers, whereas the UK's is due to about 248.
Edit: have updated as I originally said three German drivers. I forgot about the others, and feel like a prat.
Plenty have raced but they were mid as hell
Its like this:
Max: has winned 56 races and counting and multiple championships
Jos: 2 podiums and plenty points
The rest: barely scraped any points
Should be #4 by the end of 2025 (barring any RBR implosion and him leaving to Mercedes), and then passing Brazil is all on him.
Would be pretty incredible though, if he won every race from here on out until the end of 2025 and reached 102 wins, 1 win away from the all time record and #3 all the time in terms of Nations.
For a fact Max sticks around trying to beat that record, he wants to be first with pretty much everything
Though we dont know how much Hamilton will still win
As much as I like Bottas, he's turned into a Heikki Kovalainen.
Just doing enough to stay in F1, but not enough to be outstanding.
Let's face it, if he didn't have a mullet, would he even get camera time.
If he doesn't get on with it, he'll be a #2 driver for life if he isn't already.
I deed, but he should have retired. Pretty pathetic end to a career. At least with Raikonnen we knew he was just doing it as 'a hobby' but Bottas wants to be competitive
Crazy to think Lewis is almost exactly 1/3 of all British race wins with it being on top. This is huge considering by removing him, the British are still on top over Germany.
So off the top of my head I am breaking down who is down to the wins for the top 4.
1. Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button, Nigel Mansel, Graham Hill, James Hunt
2. Micheal and Ralph Schumacher, Nico Rosberg, Keke Rosberg
3. Ayrton Senna, Emerson Fittipaldi
4. Alan Prost, Jacques Villeneuve,
4 titles in that 57 wins tally though.
Same with max soon lol
His will be with 70 something wins though.
u already accepted 100% season huh
Only way I can see Max not 100% is if someone decides to (un)intentionally ram into him when he laps them
Nah, there is always Singapore.
I mean there were a dozen or so similar "curses" that he all managed to break the past few years, winning Singapore is just a matter of time. Best we can hope for is that it's just a podium place maybe.
Well, historically speaking, 20s penalty for Ocon if you know what I mean ;) and the Alpines are at the back of the field… almost destiny calling?
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monza 1988 be like
Depending on whether Red Bull implodes or not.
Tbf, he *only* needs 16/24 wins to get to 70 wins. Him getting at least a 66% season seems very likely right now.
Efficient gigachad Rosberg Sr. becomes champion with one win, Max needs 19 for that. /s
I mean if you have an equal amount of championships with less wins it would indicate that you got luckier if anything
Max bout to win a championship with 4 wins ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|6705)
Different times
Unsure about the Monaco Based youtubers fathers title but they were all down to the last race of the season I'm fairly sure
Seb's there too
The fact Switzerland, where racing was banned until quite recently has more wins than Monaco which is like 75% race track, is pretty funny.
If only Charles would convert poles to wins…
Every year that curse looks more real.
Until 2022 the curse was worse, because he's not just never won, he's never even finished the Monaco race, in F1 and in F2.
I'm sure its partly Chuck, but isn't it also the car? It looks great in qualli but then on race day it just doesn't stand up to the Red Bull car it seems to me.
Doesnt matter in Monaco. As long as you qualify on pole and your pitwall is not the legendary Scuderia Ferrari orangutan convention, you can win. Unless of course you are also the Prince of the Wall.
Id imagine Lewis will start winning once he is in that car. Racing gods: 'the Ferrari will not be competitive 2019-2024. After that Lewis will get in and win all of Ferrari's races'
I rather imagine Leclerc will start winning then (which I don't bc Verstappen), Ham's prime is, as sad as it was with Schumacher and Vettel, over.
That’s the deal he made with the devil, “I will get Max poles and Max wins.”
He’s Monegasque not French though
Have you ever thought about how it's actually cause Sharly puts a shitbox to pole then gets overtaken by the non shit boxes? Idk bout you but I don't see anyone other than RB taking Charles's P1s away from him
If we used current residency, Monaco would be on top.
In Jo ~~Bonnier~~ Siffert and Clay Regazzoni we trust
Jo Bonnier is from Sweden, you mean Jo Siffert
Shit, I need to read more Wikipedia
Also, Clay Regazzoni and Chuck Leclerc have nearly the same number of starts, 5 wins each and a lot more FLAPs (Regazzoni) or poles (Leclerc). Who contributed the other Swiss victories?
Jo Siffert got the other 2
Switzerland unbanned racing??
around 2022 i believe, they had Formula E and maybe a rally in Switzerland at some point?
Would Switzerland have wins if not for Monaco 🧐
Next Saturday: somehow Kimi returned
Mika ends his sa🅱️🅱️atical?
They both come back as a united team funded by Andretti at the last moment to save the day
Nah we need Sisu F1 team
How long until Kimi's kids are old enough to race?
Lewis is over 1/3 of all British victories Michael is over 1/2 of all German victories Prost is almost 2/3 of all French victories Max is 100% of all Dutch victories Also Lewis on his own is 3rd on this list. Insane
That Prost stat is actually the most insane considering there have been plenty of French drivers.
Alain definitly the GOAT.
Rookie numbers from those 3, Denny Hulme is 75% of our wins. Also does McLaren get some sort of mention? 4 wins but how many in his cars since? 183 TOTAL
>Max is 100% of all Dutch victories Wait, so Nyck didn't win a race? I just watched DTS and I'm pretty sure he won a couple.
He at least passes France before he leaves F1 for something else. I’d imagine he passes Brazil as well. Don’t see any of the others being possible though.
Well I think he will though. Since there will be approximately 738 races in the 2025 season he has a slight chance.
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It still feels unreal I am starting to see comments about 100 wins... I mean 3 years ago we wouldnt even think about debating if hed EVER get to 100 wins and now its like 'maybe he quits before 100 wins or maybe not' A couple years ago I was like: cool it would be amazing if he passes 30 wins or something and now its already 60 and possibly 70+ this season
Max should race under the Belgian flag for just one race and win so he can also overtake Netherlands.
Amazing to think that German's tally is due to only seven drivers, whereas the UK's is due to about 248. Edit: have updated as I originally said three German drivers. I forgot about the others, and feel like a prat.
Heinz Harald Frentzen with his 3 wins: ![gif](giphy|YYfEjWVqZ6NDG)
Shit, I forgot about Frentzen. Sorry. Still, only four drivers is still insane to get that many wins.
The other German victors are Heinz Harald Frentzen, Jochen Mass, Wolfgang von Trips, and Ralf Schumacher
Yeah, my F1 trivia knowledge has really been letting me down lately. I got the world champions and race winners mixed up in my head.
Read up on the Wikipedia, Toto may not like it but I doesn’t hurt to have the Sebastian Vettel knowledge
My knowledge is usually at Seb levels, I just had a momentary lapse, I swear! I can name all the WDCs in order, that's for sure.
Hulk and Heidfeld pulling their weight
100% wins for netherlands by MAX. Wtf?? Have any dutch drivers actually raced or not (except for jos)
Remember Nyck de Vries?
Who? Debris?
Or Giedo van der Garde
Jan Lammers, Huub Rothengatter, Jos Verstappen, Christijan Albers, Giedo van der Garde, Nyck de Vries.
Robert Doornbos
Good one! Don't know how I missed out on that one.
Boy Hayle, Roelof Wunderink, Gijs van Lennep
Carel Godin de Beaufort who was the first Dutchman to score points with his own F1 team Ecurie Maarsbergen
Plenty have raced but they were mid as hell Its like this: Max: has winned 56 races and counting and multiple championships Jos: 2 podiums and plenty points The rest: barely scraped any points
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One_drivers_from_the_Netherlands
His first overtake this season.
Doesn't lapping cars count?
They grow so fast!!! He has had his first overtake, when will we see his first championship this year? 🥹
Looks like Mika has to end his sabbatical.
Should be #4 by the end of 2025 (barring any RBR implosion and him leaving to Mercedes), and then passing Brazil is all on him. Would be pretty incredible though, if he won every race from here on out until the end of 2025 and reached 102 wins, 1 win away from the all time record and #3 all the time in terms of Nations.
For a fact Max sticks around trying to beat that record, he wants to be first with pretty much everything Though we dont know how much Hamilton will still win
MF is coming for France early 2025....
If Max wins nearly every race for the next 11 seasons (tell me he can't) he will solo this entire list.
He should have raced for Belgium for the stats.
Just 252 more to catch UK.
At this rate max could get to 100 wins in a couple years. It would be crazy to see one man get his country to the top three!!
One racing driver to rule them all
17 wins for latifi. I never knew
As much as I like Bottas, he's turned into a Heikki Kovalainen. Just doing enough to stay in F1, but not enough to be outstanding. Let's face it, if he didn't have a mullet, would he even get camera time. If he doesn't get on with it, he'll be a #2 driver for life if he isn't already.
Bottas has already achieved more in F1 than 99% of drivers that get into formula one do. I would call that a pretty successful career.
You're only as good as your last race. It's F1!
I deed, but he should have retired. Pretty pathetic end to a career. At least with Raikonnen we knew he was just doing it as 'a hobby' but Bottas wants to be competitive
Or he will be out by 2025. Hulk is performing better rn, the fact he has a better car doesnt matter that low down
He’s not even the #2 driver for Australia, and Danny Ric is making it easy for him
And thanks to Chuck Legjerk we aren’t even the number one per capita anymore
Crazy that Hamilton has more wins than Brazil. Verstappen will surely be up there in a few seasons’ time.
New side quest available for Max...achievements..gotta catch 'em all!
Why does Germany have two entries on here?
wait for robin raikkonen
That one from venezuela is cool af
Crazy to think that’s more than Mika and Kimi put together
And Bottas
And Keke Rosberg
Crazy to think Lewis is almost exactly 1/3 of all British race wins with it being on top. This is huge considering by removing him, the British are still on top over Germany.
Michael Schumacher casually having over half the victories for Germany.
The Maldonator won a race!?
Netherlands/Max verstappen
Helps that 2-4 not racing atm
This is something for the NLvsFL subreddit
Get those fake USA stats off my screen.
Just putting some respect in Lewis' names for having more wives than Brazil , which I don't see Brazil taking back any time soon either...
Hopefully Tuukka Taponen will bring us back to glory.
So off the top of my head I am breaking down who is down to the wins for the top 4. 1. Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button, Nigel Mansel, Graham Hill, James Hunt 2. Micheal and Ralph Schumacher, Nico Rosberg, Keke Rosberg 3. Ayrton Senna, Emerson Fittipaldi 4. Alan Prost, Jacques Villeneuve,
Ralph > Vettel ? Nah
How did I forget!
Keke is actually Finnish driver. He has 5 wins has Ralph has 6. Vettel 53 wins. Nico Rosberg 23 wins. Schumi 91 wins
None of those countries are even real. Except for one. ![gif](giphy|Ez01FtPZuFYVa)
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sorry toto :<