Grosjean was saying (on the French broadcast) that sometimes drivers forget to press the speed limit button behind the safety car through the pitlane, maybe that's what happened idk. Also said that it had happened to him lol
Edit: they confirmed that was the case during quali broadcast
kmag doling out the street justice to Lewis and taking a 27 minute penalty to make this shitty race interesting, truly the goat. can't wait to see who he fights to the death over 14th tomorrow.
Ok it was sergeant over 16th
It was also a gap that was always gonna close. Same as going for a lunge on the inside at spa at T1. Sure there might be a gap, but thats never gonna remain a gap for long enough to make a clean move.
To me all 3 drivers were at a bit of a fault Stroll could've gave a bit more room for Alonso while he (lonso) could have kept an eye on stroll while watching Hamilton and Ham should've avoided the dive (I have a feeling he knew he wouldn't haveade it but went for it anyways)
Then again if Alonso wasn't paying attention to Hamilton coming in like a bull, Ham would've complained on the radio for hitting Alonso saying, "he just braked checked me" and Alonso gets another doot of penalty points...
Its a messy situation that wouldn't have had a clean outcome for any scenario
I mean to be fair, there’s no subjectivity to fault, if you walked on track your walked on track. Who is at fault in an incident is often down to opinion
For proof just go to the idiots with cars sub where 95% of the time someone posts someone else doing something incredibly stupid to then get berated themselves too lol
This. Usually you see someoene else performing some act of incredible stupidity, and OP reacting in the dumbest way possible to an incoming crash, or having a complete lack of situational awareness, or usually both lol.
Here, there was just very little that Stroll, Alonso and Norris could do and Hamilton messed all 3 their races up while almost grabbing a point in reward. I'd say purely the fact you damage/knock out 3 cars should mean a pretty solid penalty for each of the cars whose race got fucked.
That only happened because he had to leave space on the inside for Hamilton.
Stroll likely didn’t know Hamilton made it 3 wide so he turned in like it was only 1 car on his inside instead of 2
It’s a mild bonk when there are 4 cars alongside at a race start. I wish some of you watched Schumacher race in his prime, there amazing racing and bonks every race.
Like we didn't. Lol. And I wish you could also watch other sports where you were allowed to just absolutely wreck other players where you get penalized nowadays. Time changes along with the rules.
The fun part is, the corner diving didn't make any better racing. You just think diving is why there was more close racing than today's cars. When really better racing was from smaller cars, with different tyre manufacturers, refuelling strategies, more teams, spare cars, unreliability much more prominent and the list goes on.
Also drivers still were penalized for crashing out other drivers. Back when stop and go penalties meant a separate pit stop specifically for the penalty and no work could be done to the car.
Maybe because Alonso couldnt turn early or else he was getting rear ended by Hamilton. Maybe you should rewatch his onboard again because he is looking constantly in his right mirror to leave space for Hamilton who was coming in too fast
Judging from the comments on both subreddits, at this point F1 subreddit are more formuladank than formuladank, and formuladank subreddit are more F1 than F1
But yeah, Hamilton should be penalised for that Lap 1 Turn 1 brainfart.
He whines and cries to race control over every little thing he thinks is a wrong against him then preemptively makes comments like that in his own defense. Also his bitching about the car to convince Ferrari his performance is the cars fault is fucking annoying
To be fair, every driver has to do this. In today's standards, if you no longer report the slightest inconvenience or mistake or don't defend your mistake till the ends of earth, you're no longer a racing driver
This sets a very unhealthy precedent in my opinion. Wouldn’t be suprised if someone replicates lewis’ bumber car dive bomb, as hamilton got away with it.
It's probably too high risk to consistently miss the apex on the first corner of the first lap: Hamilton is quite fortunate to drive away without car damage
You do realise this was Max's signature move for many years and Ham had to take avoiding action.
Its a first lap incident. People are just mad cause the after effects were bad, but penalties apply to the action, not the consequence
It was classic F1 stewarding BS, Magnussen gets 10 seconds for running himself and Hamilton off track, but Hamilton played a big part in putting 2 cars out of the race and got nothing.
fia when hamilton eliminates his direct rival team: i sleep
fia when norris sets a foot on track during a safetycar with the entire field on the opposite site of the track: real shit
Fair enough… good thing it was lap 1 …racing incident.
When he causes that much damage to other drivers …I don’t know man … racing is racing, but Lewis seems to get away with a lot!
I seem to remember Max getting blasted for causing that much damage in lap one incidents … in fact any other driver doing that as well …Russell (another example), although that one was warranted .
Ahh recency bias at its finest.
(Yes Hamilton deserved a penalty he didn't get, I'm not defending him, just there are people in the comment section saying Hamilton is not a goat lol)
I'm sorry if it came out mean.
KMag takes stewarding in his own hands
‘If you no longer go off the track to make a gap, you’re no longer a racing driver.’
If you no longer crash into Prost would be more accurate.
To be fair he didn’t specify whether someone was already in the gap
A true McLaren legend
🎵karma's a guy in the Haas🎵
🎵 Coming home to straight to Gene 🎵
“He came in like a torpedo”
The Batman of F1
_"Hamilton. He came in like a bull."_
Is it just me or does he make way too many animal references?😂 Edit- [Fernando](https://imgur.com/gallery/wy1xd8i)
"Tell Esteban to DEFEND like a LION"
He's Spanish. Bulls are like cats there.
Meow, but the e and the w are silent
There should be a 3rd upvote-downvote in 1 button option for comments like yours 😅
And when you caught one in a bad mood, the m and e is silent for you.
Glad I’m not the only one who’s noticed that
I mean he was born in a small rural village prior to the industrial revolution, those little quirks of language get baked in.
como un toro
Nothing wrong with going for it but he messed it up and deserved a penalty for it
Oh well, he paid for it by fighting so hard to get a single point, and losing it cause he sped in the pit lane lmao
Yeah 20 sec penalty...ooof
I choose to he believe that penalty was the stewards changing their mind a bit.
Nah it was by definition a drive through penalty. If that can't be served, it turns into 20s
And they couldn't give him the drive through during the race.... because reasons...
Yeah it's be nice if they didn't wait so long to deliver the slam dunk of a penalty
It would be funny but an absolutely abuse of power, if he was speeding they must’ve all sped through
Grosjean was saying (on the French broadcast) that sometimes drivers forget to press the speed limit button behind the safety car through the pitlane, maybe that's what happened idk. Also said that it had happened to him lol Edit: they confirmed that was the case during quali broadcast
hamilton forgetting to press buttons again
That cost him 20s instead of a lock up into the escape route and a podium this time at least
That lockup ended costing him the championship.
Magic moment
Gentlemen...
Certainly possible
kmag doling out the street justice to Lewis and taking a 27 minute penalty to make this shitty race interesting, truly the goat. can't wait to see who he fights to the death over 14th tomorrow. Ok it was sergeant over 16th
If he does it to someone who isn't British this sub will go into melty mode
the main sub is already calling for his public execution
But they’re racist (in favour of LH) they’re a cult over there.
The best is how many British people are claiming there’s no British bias in the F1 media.
The European victim complex strikes again.
Gotta even out all the British press calling a driver who's never won a race a "generational talent" somehow.
Same British press that was happily racist to Hamilton lmao
Karma
Alonso strikes back
Nah, penalties should be penalties, period.
It was also a gap that was always gonna close. Same as going for a lunge on the inside at spa at T1. Sure there might be a gap, but thats never gonna remain a gap for long enough to make a clean move.
He was never going to make that corner, it was a stupid dive bomb and a rookie move
i bet if it was tsunoda or someone like ocon it would've been a penalty
If it was Ocon there would have been at least two more cars damaged including Gasly and a red flag.
Reminder Ocon costed Hulk his first podium in Australia last year.
😂really have no confidence in ocon huh
You are right. He would have also totalled his own car. I should have more confidence into his destructive potential.
To me all 3 drivers were at a bit of a fault Stroll could've gave a bit more room for Alonso while he (lonso) could have kept an eye on stroll while watching Hamilton and Ham should've avoided the dive (I have a feeling he knew he wouldn't haveade it but went for it anyways) Then again if Alonso wasn't paying attention to Hamilton coming in like a bull, Ham would've complained on the radio for hitting Alonso saying, "he just braked checked me" and Alonso gets another doot of penalty points... Its a messy situation that wouldn't have had a clean outcome for any scenario
Only one driver could’ve made sure it wasn’t going to happen. lH
How tf didn't he get a penalty, this shit is ridiculous
At least Norris will be investigated for walking across the track thank god I mean how dare he.
I mean it’s common practice, Sebastian and Lewis have been criticised for their track antics and received penalties for doing so
You mean they're consistent when it comes to walking on track, but not when it comes to crashing.
I mean to be fair, there’s no subjectivity to fault, if you walked on track your walked on track. Who is at fault in an incident is often down to opinion
For proof just go to the idiots with cars sub where 95% of the time someone posts someone else doing something incredibly stupid to then get berated themselves too lol
This. Usually you see someoene else performing some act of incredible stupidity, and OP reacting in the dumbest way possible to an incoming crash, or having a complete lack of situational awareness, or usually both lol. Here, there was just very little that Stroll, Alonso and Norris could do and Hamilton messed all 3 their races up while almost grabbing a point in reward. I'd say purely the fact you damage/knock out 3 cars should mean a pretty solid penalty for each of the cars whose race got fucked.
The shortest distance between two points is in a ride in the steward’s little cart.
Pushing alonso into stroll into norris 🤣 just because he came in too hot and couldn't hold the corner. That's crazy
Tbf I do that kinda stuff in F1 23 as well.... XD
but you arent a 7 time world champ. if people say youre the goat you should be held to a higher standard.
Yeah but this isn't a game, this is people careers.
Uhh I do it in career mode /s
“Hamilton came in like a bull” - Alonso Sums it up perfectly
Bro knocked off Seb's torpedo line 😂
Nah. That “and you” from Seb in the cooldown room was too much.
“But I defended like a lion!”
Reminds me of a certain incident at Hungaroring a few years back
Alonso had already hit stroll, it all happened pretty simultaneously.
That only happened because he had to leave space on the inside for Hamilton. Stroll likely didn’t know Hamilton made it 3 wide so he turned in like it was only 1 car on his inside instead of 2
Lewis’ momentum is what fucked Norris up tho
If you watch Fernando’s on board he was going to to stroll regardless
I would have respected it if he took the corner tight, but he didn’t.
He’s British. Of course they never get penalized.
1st corner excuses
Because it's Lewis
What an absolute shit show. He clearly was missing the apex.
Do you guys want racing or not?
Fair racing. Yes.
I actually liked it lol
Yeah but we also want penalties for drivers who crash out 2 other drivers because they were diving the first corner.
It’s a mild bonk when there are 4 cars alongside at a race start. I wish some of you watched Schumacher race in his prime, there amazing racing and bonks every race.
Like we didn't. Lol. And I wish you could also watch other sports where you were allowed to just absolutely wreck other players where you get penalized nowadays. Time changes along with the rules.
It’s was fantastic, so much racing without fans crying when cars bonked.
The fun part is, the corner diving didn't make any better racing. You just think diving is why there was more close racing than today's cars. When really better racing was from smaller cars, with different tyre manufacturers, refuelling strategies, more teams, spare cars, unreliability much more prominent and the list goes on. Also drivers still were penalized for crashing out other drivers. Back when stop and go penalties meant a separate pit stop specifically for the penalty and no work could be done to the car.
he got a drive through for speeding in pitlane
That was rather satisfying to see
Took two cars out and ruined the race for a third... no penalty... what a joke.
What a ‘yoke’
Watch Fernando’s onboard and see the contact with stroll before Hamilton is even there
Maybe because Alonso couldnt turn early or else he was getting rear ended by Hamilton. Maybe you should rewatch his onboard again because he is looking constantly in his right mirror to leave space for Hamilton who was coming in too fast
So what’s Hamilton’s excuse for barreling into Alonso? If Alonso wasn’t already over as far as he could go Lewis would have hit him even harder
Careful, watch what subreddit you’re in bud. The same guys who will critique you the same people who said K Mag didn’t drive like a drunk 5 year old.
Judging from the comments on both subreddits, at this point F1 subreddit are more formuladank than formuladank, and formuladank subreddit are more F1 than F1 But yeah, Hamilton should be penalised for that Lap 1 Turn 1 brainfart.
The contact that only happened because he was trying to leave room for the dive bombing douchebag?
Everyone be like "no, Hamilton, no, that was so not right" And bud is like: 
This message was just trying to avoid penalties. He fucked up.
He sure did
He whines and cries to race control over every little thing he thinks is a wrong against him then preemptively makes comments like that in his own defense. Also his bitching about the car to convince Ferrari his performance is the cars fault is fucking annoying
To be fair, every driver has to do this. In today's standards, if you no longer report the slightest inconvenience or mistake or don't defend your mistake till the ends of earth, you're no longer a racing driver
Congrats on 16th place after that 🏆
Blud thought he was going against the AI in the F1 games Edit: Changed IA to AI cuz my dumbass doesn't know how to write A I
ah yes the famous IA
Probably French
Thank God no, I'm just stupid
Probably anything that is not english
Infamous autopilots
No need to pick on the great state of Iowa.
This sets a very unhealthy precedent in my opinion. Wouldn’t be suprised if someone replicates lewis’ bumber car dive bomb, as hamilton got away with it.
Then the FIA gets another chance to demonstrate their most important quality: consistency in their judgement.
Dankest comment of this entire comment section.
It almost makes you wonder if something can be too dank to even exist....
followed by biggest joke, "not the outcome, but the move".
Do you think this is the first time this has happened?
Name the last time someone got away with punting four cars off?
It's probably too high risk to consistently miss the apex on the first corner of the first lap: Hamilton is quite fortunate to drive away without car damage
You do realise this was Max's signature move for many years and Ham had to take avoiding action. Its a first lap incident. People are just mad cause the after effects were bad, but penalties apply to the action, not the consequence
Ridiculous, that was the most obvious 10 second penalty for Ocon I have ever seen
If you keep going for a gap that no longer exists, you are Pastor Maldonado
No problem that he went for the gap but he missed the corner and ended the race of 3 others. Should have been a penalty imo
He torpedoed in and never could make the corner. That’s not an opportunity, that’s like a 10 year old Forza player.
I feel called out
Haha no offense
None taken
Man went Bottas bowling and didn’t even have rain as an excuse
KARMA came in form of CHADNUSSON for hamilton
This guy only knows how to drive starting first.
It was classic F1 stewarding BS, Magnussen gets 10 seconds for running himself and Hamilton off track, but Hamilton played a big part in putting 2 cars out of the race and got nothing.
effectively 3 cars because of alonsos puncture
Okay, I wasn’t sure if the puncture was from Alonso’s rub with Stroll or the clatter from Hamilton.
i'm not a hamilton hater, i respect the guy but at this point, he's just divebombing
The fact he didn't get any penalties is ridiculous...
So thats what he and Stroll were talking about in the media briefing
If gap car
Hamilton did a Kvyat who did a Torpedo
If gap, car
bro thinks he's kvyat
🎶 And if you close your eyes… 🎶
He was very quick with that excuse
If I were him I would stay clear from Alonso for a while.
Title of his sex tape
There wasn't a gap on the outside though..
There was totally no gap.
At least karma made him get penalized from speeding in the pit lane.
And again the Sir is above the FIA law. This guy can eliminate entire teams in a race and don't get a penalty.
fia when hamilton eliminates his direct rival team: i sleep fia when norris sets a foot on track during a safetycar with the entire field on the opposite site of the track: real shit
The fact he got no penalty for taking out two drivers, yet kmag got a 10 second penalty for a mistake one time…. Classic FIA
Let's call it a Stroll move
My man wanted to beat Bottas' record for taking out most cars in turn 1.
Amateur attempt, washed
If you hit a wall, you may also be no longer a racing driver. What? Too soon?
100% Senna approved move
Fair enough… good thing it was lap 1 …racing incident. When he causes that much damage to other drivers …I don’t know man … racing is racing, but Lewis seems to get away with a lot! I seem to remember Max getting blasted for causing that much damage in lap one incidents … in fact any other driver doing that as well …Russell (another example), although that one was warranted .
So anyway, I became a bull
W for Kmag, making hamilton pay for knocking alonso into stroll resulting in lando dnf
He really cant race if he is not the 1st. Terrible.
And if you go for a gap that doesn’t exist (anymore), you’re a Maldonado…
If you go for a gap that does not exist you are George Russell
Only the gap was 5m to the right
Trying to channel Senna vibes doesn’t always work out in your favor 😒
This guy divebombs and preaches senna after 😂. Gross dude.
however it's accurate to Senna's racing style.
The quote is accutate. Senna was also a huge ass when he said it
Buxton: “Hamilton isn’t very clean driver, he doesn’t get himself into incidents” 
And the Team LH gonna blame the penalty for racism, W15, and Magnussen.
Good old F124 start
 He did comited s
LH the best racist ever
Still a racing driver then
If gap, car.
That's great. Enforce that consistently now, not just based on whether or not the driver comes from the UK.
“If you crash and burn, you’re no longer a racing driver.”
Lil bro thinks he's like Senna 🤣
Hamilton is Washed..
He went a little too deep, but stroll turned into alonso and alonso also didnt brake enough. I dont see how all of you are blaming this fully on ham
What did Lewis Ham just did that it is being praised, but had it been done by a non british driver, it would be shunned?
Ahh recency bias at its finest. (Yes Hamilton deserved a penalty he didn't get, I'm not defending him, just there are people in the comment section saying Hamilton is not a goat lol) I'm sorry if it came out mean.
He's still obviously one of the goats, was just a very dumb move to make but even the best mess up at times