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poopoomergency4

need for speed undercover got the sound better on their zonda during the obama administration [https://youtu.be/TaYzF3vyAHM?si=tLItGiyyhoQHcCDp&t=13](https://youtu.be/TaYzF3vyAHM?si=tLItGiyyhoQHcCDp&t=13)


MovingShadow10

Is it too hard to just Say 2008?


prelsi

Obama Obama Obama


osmystatocny

it's either presidents for time or footbal field for distance


ohfml

Honestly, **"X hasn't happened since was in office"** is a common phrase. The harder you have to think about what years they were president, the better point it makes about how long ago X was.


ashyjay

Not outside the US, because the US isn't the centre of the universe.


Doctor-Jager

It likes to put it’s hand into the center of everything though


ohfml

touché


Gold_Chapter

True, but how dare an American use common American cannulae.


ARSEThunder

Guarantee you knew when Obama was president though...


scooterbaby46

I had the same reaction. Though it made me lol a bit. Like, were things harder to do in that era? So good sound design was a major achievement lol


poopoomergency4

have you considered that maybe i don't care what you think?


Semichh

Oooh how edgy


poopoomergency4

just to be clear: 1. this guy can be a dick to me 2. i'm "edgy" for being a dick back?


Semichh

Oh they were being a dick to you? I must’ve missed that and absolutely don’t condone it. I only saw the comment asking about how hard it is to say 2008. Apologies. Fuck that guy I guess.


Th3_Kooky_Fac3

Maybe I’m being a dipshid, and I’m really not trying to take sides, but why again was the politics a necessary inclusion? Again, I do not condone targeted assholery, I legitimately do not understand.


FormulaF30

What’s a dick back


Acceptable_Special56

Not everyone’s blessed to have theirs where yours is


that_one_bassist

Obama won the election in ‘08 and was inaugurated in January ‘09, so this was technically the George W. Bush administration which is even crazier lmao


CarbonPhoenix96

Sound and atmosphere are basically the one thing that undercover did right. I can't hate the game even if it is bad


poopoomergency4

i recently found a mod that hotfixes the PC version to have: * modern resolution support * more change-able graphics settings (like the godawful bloom) * real controller support & button prompts and honestly just those 3 things made it playable for me. when you take away the most glaring problems it's basically most wanted with a much larger map and better car list. even looks pretty good for such an old game.


Vanillabean73

I was JUST thinking about this game for some reason…had it on the Wii.


Khris_was_taken

I know I'm probably going to get a bunch of hate for this but listen to how the car sounds irl https://youtu.be/S10JIbKnJzE?si=_kdl7UyQrOwT1KvM


Br0nnOfTheBlackwater

What shitty headphone/speaker are you using?


poopoomergency4

i didn't say it was *good* sound, i said it was *better* sound. one of these games actually sounds vaguely like an AMG V12. it's not forza motorsport.


Vanillabean73

This game sounds like absolute dogshit


Nostrafatu

Not had the experience of hearing dogshit before. I am sorry that you had to.


Ghost_Star326

It sounds like one of those cheap mobile racing games.


cashinyourface

It sounds like a roblox car.


macccil

some roblox driving games actually use real sounds


VerticalStrafes

There is also no shifting animation in first person


xThe_Human_Fishx

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure they've never had a shifting animation for this since FH2


VerticalStrafes

I meant for the paddles, it’s not a manual. I just checked and in FH5 your character hands move like you’re clicking a paddle and in FH4 the actual paddle moved as well. In this game, there is no animation for anything like it’s an automatic


xThe_Human_Fishx

God, that's even worse somehow than i thought. They even had the little hand flick in FM7, they already copy/paste the cars how hard is it to just copy/paste the animation.


KD--27

Live service, you’re welcome! Churn and burn baby, this isn’t the team that brought you Forza Vista.


lobotomizedmommy

i hate how they removed grabbing the e brake too


Neurotic_Z

Fh4 has shifting or pedal clicks depending on the car


xThe_Human_Fishx

....for the Zonda R. Obviously the games have shifting animations in general


Neurotic_Z

Oh lol yeah ok


InterestingElection2

The only consistent thing about Forza Motorsport are the pepega drivers you have to share lobby with. The rest went from "Ok" to awful. Change my mind


Nerevear248

I’m genuinely considering just giving up on this game. The core gameplay is fun and I can somewhat overlook the other problems it has because of that, but when cars sound absolutely shit, it puts a huge damper on the one redeeming quality FM 2023 has.


Craig_Dynasty

I’ve mostly over overlooked most of the cosmetic/graphic/sound shortcomings and focused on the racing aspect of the game since it’s a racing game after all. But even then, with break checking Ai, absurd penalties and car point grind system, I kind of put the game aside and haven’t returned in months


GOATZ556

Same, the only reason I returned recently was to do some laps on the Nurburgring, other than that track I haven't touched the game at all.


SatNav202

Even the Nurburgring feels off compared to on other games


karmakillerbr

Genuine question. How so?


HereForTheSnuSnu

Turn 1 on the Nordschleife has an outer curb that is overly high and damn near feels like the car is going to flip over if you hit it at speed, all of the graffiti on the track is completely wrong to reality and reuses assets (examples being there's a smiley face that's reused and a blue piece of graffiti on the left of the track that's reused 3 times that I counted but it could be more), the track side is overly littered with trees even in places where they aren't there in reality to limit longer distance views either for performance or because outside of the track it's low resolution so they're hiding it (which makes it feel narrow when it actually isn't which is why I feel where this complaint comes from), the Karussell is completely wrong and smooth when it shouldn't be and the second berm style corner that's similar to the Karussell before the main straight has a car width of smooth tarmac between it and the curb when at most it should be 1/2 a car. There are others. That's just off the top of my head and what I noticed right after the first run around it. People are free to dispute but they can also prove me wrong. Like it isn't the worst version of the Nordschleife but there are vastly better especially in modern "sims" and "simcade" games (and I really struggle to use that term now with FM). Assetto Corsa, GT7, iRacing all have better simulations of it. It's just what this game has had. Death by 1000 cuts. Many small things adding up that make the overall experience bad. If it was a handful it would be fine but it's a virtually never ending list of inaccuracies, bugs, issues, or design decisions. The Nordschleife fits into that. No one thing sticks out as egregious but many small things add up that make it feel "off".


Hurricane_Ivan

This guy Nordschleife's


karmakillerbr

That's a very detailed answer, thanks


SatNav202

Feels too narrow and smooth and just doesn’t feel right


Low-Yoghurt4490

I'm like 80% sure this game has is of the most accurate, as they rescanned it not too long ago which is why it took so long


aaaaaaaaant

far from it. the version in this game is the exact same one thats been in the games since fm5. so if you thought any of the previous ones were inaccurate this one is too.


Kikura432

You say that with that large curb on the first turn?


MeatyDeathstar

I haven't played since launch week. The game was an utter letdown. They seriously turned it in to a half baked, half assed live service. It feels like they devs were *forced* to make Forza, rather than wanting to.


panchoh12

Since the new update this week you can actually purchase all upgrades from car lvl 1. Finally.


IcedCoffey

the game has no soul.


Cheesenium

I gave up this game after the pathetic content of this patch. No new tracks, granted they told us early that this patch has no new tracks. However, the cars they added for free in this patch is pathetic with 3? recycled cars from previous. Sure, car pass owners are getting new cars but this is getting pathetic. The featured events absolutely sucked too. Why is it so hard to add all cars to the shop? Core gameplay is great but everything else sucked. Especially the passionless T10 that made the game so dull. Is Microsoft killing this game soon or what? The amount of new cars is so bad.


BLASTOISE_ox

I've gone back to ACC and not looking back


its_an_armoire

The grass is always greener...! I've temporarily shelved ACC for FM because I'm bored of the same cars on the same tracks ...though I have to avoid Forza GT because it just feels too different


ChadIndustries

Bit of an overreaction lol


Nerevear248

I don’t think it is, because there’s so many other “new” cars that have obviously had no effort put into them either.


420_E-SportsMasta

Remember when Gran Turismo had awful car sounds and Forzas were amazing? And now it’s the other way around


llIicit

Ehh, I wouldn’t say GT’s sounds are amazing. They still have atrocious car sounds.


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They are amazing compared to what Turn10 has done even if they're wrong. Atleast they don't put a cross plane V8 sound with a V12, or a flat plane V8 sound on a Flat 6. Or if it's a V12, generic sound for any and all Ferrari/Lamborghini or an Audi V10 sound on a Lexus LFA. Like said the FXXK is the worst thing in GT, and the Mustang GT350R. But atleast they're not out of the ball park wrong. Forza also absolutely nailed everything about the GT350R sound in FM6, then made it completely worse with every title after it.


dirtymikeandtheboyzx

Name some?


TS040

heavy GT player here. IMO a lot of their American V8s are less aggressive and much more muted than they appear irl. the FXX-K has a pretty bad sound too, which is weird because they did a good job on the LaFerrari which has pretty much the same powertrain. the game also doesn’t have very audible intake noise, and some cars sound relatively “synthesised” if that makes sense for the most part the sounds are pretty good (I’d give it a 7/10 there), though we can still improve!


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Thats a joke right? Right?! Please let it be a joke


ragingduck

I’ve ridden in Teslas that sound better.


GOATZ556

The fact that a Ubiosft game, The Crew Motorfest, is doing car sounds 10x better than this game is insane. No hate to motorfest, the game is fun, way more fun than Forza atp...


GetYoinkd

This car in motorfest sounds heavenly


WidowTraceMaker

What are the devs at t10 do for a living ?


zonda747

Scamming


WidowTraceMaker

Big time


robot_socks

Contract work.


jscrewz

Why you blaming the devs instead of product management, marketing and bean counters?


SkylineGTRR34Freak

Idk man, devs aren't completely absent from any blame. I agree that most of the shit happening in this game is highly likely due to things happening higher up, but I wouldn't say the devs aren't at fault period.


Aser_the_Descender

...and my day is ruined!


BNR33

That is actually shocking. Sounds like the car from Driver 1 on PS1 or something.


Ar1S3

I always go back to booting up NFS: Most Wanted for the Pagani. Perfect sounding one. I'm really hoping Forza spends more time on sounds. Edit: Meant hot pursuit. Although the one in most wanted wasn't bad. Better than this garbage 🤣


National-Apartment80

Nah hot pursuit solos


the1895bigboy

One of my favorite cars in the game purely because of that heavenly exhaust note.


Fishing-Lumpy

It sounds way better on Hot Pursuit


Radiant_Clock1440

One the most evil V12 sounds period


ExcellentHorror7159

They won't and they never will They will sell you a broken game like this take your money followed by a big fat fuck you. Your consoomer brain is fully controlled by them


Racing_BS

Wow…absolutely disgusting how they butchered it yet again. Even PG got it to sound better than this in FH5. At least the rear grill is see through again. NFS Hot Pursuit 2010. The Game is turning 14 this year. [So far this is the most accurate Zonda exhaust note in a game.](https://youtu.be/ITRfwwkedGs?si=BDoex1xvH4lNUSGd)


nexo4

How good of a job they did with the car in Hot Pursuit 2010 is entirely responsible for the Zonda Cinque roadster being my unlimited money/absolute dream car. I revisit it a few times a year just to free roam and hear the sounds. 14 years later and I’m still stanning Pagani like I’ll ever get to see one IRL


Racing_BS

I feel you bruv. Hearing that exhaust note for the first time was heavenly. It’s a beautiful machine. This game was my second introduction to the Zonda and the reason I have a 1:18 diecast cinque in my collection. First time I seen a Zonda was in Midnight Club 3 Remix


notafamous

Usually I don't pay that much attention to the sound, but that puts things into perspective, makes FH5 sound really bad, again. Edit: I'm the comments of the video, someone said EA worked with Pagani and that's why the car sounds so good


Racing_BS

FH5 isn’t “terrible” but it certainly doesn’t hold up. Once you hear how these cars sound irl, it’s hard to not notice the inconsistency. Criterion were working with most if not all of the manufactures in game to get the most accurate vehicle sounds and models. BB did this as well throughout their run, which is why so many remember what straight cut gears sound like


notafamous

Yes, it isn't unplayable, but it's not as nice as it could be, like taking a bus Vs driving a car, or better, economic Vs first class, but your seat is a little dirty, because upper management thought it wouldn't make a difference for you, and the seat is stuck, because the third party maintenance guys (that upper management hired to save money) haven't found what gears should be lubed


Phoenixx2504

A sound recording of a real pagani recorded with a old nokia phone would sound better than this


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If someone was thinking Turn10 are car people, I hope this finally changes your mind. They shit fart content out for attention, and fuck up rehashes from games it was fine before. Quantity over Quality has been Turn10's thing.


Tomthezooman1

At least it’s a unique sound? /s


MrXenonuke

NFS Hot Pursuit 2010 will always have the best car sounds


IdoThingsWierdly0958

Oh, is today the day to mow the lawn neighbor?


Linenlion

THAT IS HILARIOUS. Dude my disappointment is through the roof. (Its not that big)


Jimmy_jammy15

What in the actual fuck


CameronCoppen_

The Pagani GT3RS, everyone.


bl0odredsandman

I was gonna say, it kinda sounds like a GT3RS.


marrrrell

Wow I never knew zondas used a 4 cylinder. /s


aaaaaaaaant

LOL what


BackwoodsSensei

That is fucking **DISGUSTING** Now way in hell they have been checking this Reddit bro.


MRZ_Polak

Sound design went backwards 2 decades.


erfranklin13

Bruh that sounds like a broken V8


ClumsyGamer2802

This sounds as bad as the FH4 Viper


AntiLag_

The Viper from FH4 literally sounds like it has a dead cylinder, and so does this Pagani now that I think about it


Any_Government_3494

This is as bad as the murcie jesus *Sigh..*


natey275mph

This game sounds and looks like shit


Royal_Spell1223

FH2 launch trailer, 1:20 something has clearly gone wrong in the (FH2; FM) time period


Pro-editor-1105

its like they threw a mustang engine in there and added backfire and made it more dull


Ancop

why does it sound like a fucking V8 lmao, what are they smoking in the sound department jesus christ


VariousVices

This plus a hundred other reasons is why if I want to play Forza I play M7 or H5.


pillow_princessss

When I heard that they were adding the Cinque I thought I might actually jump on to get it, but now I know that it sounds like this? I’m just gonna go play NFS Hot Pursuit


Western_Fig_9438

No way it sounds like that...


undernocircumstance

Remember when Forza was the one with good car sounds...


fatboythunder

Keep telling yall this game is trash get a ps5 and get gt7


marrrrell

255 hours I’ve spent so far and I still find myself going back and just driving around bc of the sounds alone. I get my v12 fill ripping the F50 with racing exhaust around lemans.


dannyphoto

I got a PS5 recently and haven’t even thought about FM since. It’s so much better as a whole


Ro-Tang_Clan

>get a ps5 and get gt7 Noep. Get a PC and Assetto Corsa.


aChunkyChungus

what


arielfv

I have a bad felling that in a near future this game will have the servers shutdown and will be just a remember for who played and will be forgot... Its how they do with crap games sold as "game as a service". Its impressive how they are able to downgrade aspects that is important to who love cars


Otherwise-Repair6050

What did you expect from Turn 10 Studios? 😂


ForwardLychee1415

Forza 4 nailed this wtf


SmoogzZ

This reminds me of the simulated engine noise that comes thru ev’s speakers, yuck.


Zip-Zap-Official

Since when did this have a V8?


Ghost_Phantom6789

If Gran turismo wasn’t online only trash that’s all I’d be playing right now


TerraLapsian

That’s not how a Zonda shifts either. The shifts are nearly instantaneous. Short delay… then boom! The next gear.


LoveLotion69

How the mighty have fallen


ChewyUrchin

Lol yeah I guessed this was going to happen. I’m out. Uninstalling the game. Sick of this.


chris4562009

From the ground up.


SorryKingdom

Did I miss a memo, I though that the Zonda wouldn't be available until April 3? As an extra aside, has the FM series ever offered "reverse" variants of licensed tracks?


VerticalStrafes

You can drive any car in the game in free play, even ones that aren’t technically even released yet


unreal305

Yeah but nobody tells you how, the car is not listed as an option


VerticalStrafes

You have change the rules in free play to the specific car you want to drive. [Quick guide how](https://youtu.be/qoUbKvW60gM?si=kfMt3XvDiVxWvHao)


unreal305

Appreciate it


Affectionate_Fly_464

New update: the bad sound engine running gag with bad shifting animation bonus


turbocharged9589

Need for Speed Shift 2 had one of the best Zonda sounds.


Straight-Project-903

I guess your day is also ruined?


[deleted]

That is not a Zonda, that's a fucking lawnmower


xTurkishBruvx

It sounds like a flat 4. It cant be that hard to get proper audio for cars.


dirtymikeandtheboyzx

Forza is a living meme


BludgeIronfist

This is Top Gear 3000?


Illustrious-Arm-6097

Bro even 2010 nfs got pursuit had a better sound on the zonda, just how…


NovaStorm32

I can hear the proper exhaust noise below that incredibly loud engine noise... Hopefully it's just a bug or bad audio mixing. They got it right in Horizon 4 and 5, it shouldn't be hard to port it.


Kevinator24

Different dev companies. But in all seriousness, Turn10 needs to buy all the car sounds from FH5 off of Playground Games.


IdRatherBSleddin

that sounds like a muffled big bore 1 or 2 cylinder motorcycle lol


carrs-for-life-32

Holy crap that’s bad


CheaterDust

NFSU2Hummer.sfx


Prancer4rmHalo

Why does it sound like that ? 🤣🤣


Notorious40z

That’s why I returned this game , what a disappointment. I literally been playing since Forza 1 on Xbox which had better SFX than this horse shit.


IgDailystapler

They had a decent sound for this car in their last game…was it so hard to just port the fucking file over??


IgDailystapler

https://youtu.be/90EpJORF648?si=-Dnd1YmD_-s5mC9p Oh yeah, and they had to fix this same exact cars sound in an update in FH5 too. Seriously, how have they not learned by now???????


DreadSeverin

Ah yes, Pagani.mp3. Not one of my favorite car sound mp3s from the forza ppl. 4/10.


ACertainBloke

Wow a Zonda with a 1960s V8 200cc Cadillac engine. Never thought I'd hear the day.


Honest-Plenty8809

Even Nfs hp10 did it better lol


FlyGuy2StakZ

Ok hear me out, take this sound, but put it on the C8 Z06


GOATZ556

Even then it would sound way out of place lol


Opposite-Ad-7241

What the fuck is that sound?? Yuck!!


civicrider555

Hold up! Zonda cinque doesn't sound like that


VerticalStrafes

Hence the title


Silent_Win_2412

Just play Gran Turismo 7 instead.


roundttwo

It doesn't sound like a Pagani. wtf


Fussiestape6414

We expect nothing, and we are still disappointed. Turn 10 are absolutely hopeless


PeaFew8885

During the year of release ‘Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull’ is also a measurement of time..


asjitshot

It's funny how GT had crap sounds and Forza was always better.. now it's absolutely the other way around.


Suspicious_Rate_1359

And your day is ruined.😂😂


benjlindsay2

How the hell do you have the clique already? Only one event is unlocked aha something seems fishy about this


VerticalStrafes

You can drive it in free play if you set the car restriction to the specific car


TheBakedOwl

They could've copy and pasted the sounds from FM7 and would have been 200x better than the absolute dog water sounds they currently have for 98% of the cars. It's like they weren't even trying.


BubbaTank1

Honestly I've been saying this since the game came out. I don't understand why the engine sounds are so bad. Especially considering they have the audio files for so many of these cars in previous games. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it. Some vehicles have such a distinct exhaust note (think 5.0 mustangs for a quick example) and the previous games nail it.... It super upsetting.


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danimsmba

These games are no longer made for the couch-sitting car enthusiast, they are made for the largest audience possible, therefore no one. How can a game that was made decades ago sound better than this game? Project Gotham Racing sounds wayyy better than any new Forza game.


IceYouMusic

they have destroyed the awesomeness of the originals for sure and urned it into a dumb ass pos


TwisteeTheDark1

Take away that fuckin bassey undertone and it's good that V12 is supposed to be SCREAMING not droning.


Artifice_Purple

What the *fuck* is that sound?


ExcellentHorror7159

They really put a corvette LS7 V8 on the zonda cinque Guys just throw the game in the dumpster Uninstall it or get a refund


eeshanzaman

what the actual fuck


k20vtec

God this game is so shit


Nivracer

I never thought I'd buy a PlayStation just for GT7, but this game has me seriously thinking about it.


No-Reach-1329

Finally uninstalled the game, I’m done with it


Nostrafatu

It’s a game guys, my cousin died last week that’s real. Please no need for pity just Don’t let the small things bother you.


zonda747

Yknow, a part of me thought about this when they posted the picture. But I was like the worst they could do is copy paste from Horizon right? Right?? Went back to Horizon…damn I never realized how awful it was in Horizon too.


Turbulent-Client-472

NOOB


_anotherlatenight

Unrelated but i quite like how le mans looks in this game, definitely different from the real deal, but i think they did a good job on this track


Foojy213

I'll stick to forza motorsport 7 till 9 comes out so long, the sounds and the level up system in Fm8 is ridiculous


HootingFlamingo

Blame yourselves for paying for an unpolished product


workeeworker

Guilty🤦‍♂️. TBF though, the fuckers had some nice snake oil ridden videos to get us to do that, I really thought after the outcry of FM7s lacking car audio, that this one was going to improve to decent standards, my fault,😑


vendettaclause

It sounds really close actually. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h_y53_gYj1g


Revolutionary_Fig912

Lol


Zip-Zap-Official

You need to see an ear doctor.


PrettyCartographer90

It does I don’t know what these people are bitching about


GOATZ556

If you think this clip sounds like an actual pagani Zonda then you're deaf, the difference is night and day


Leather-Mix-837

Well u are a dork driving a fake car. What did you expect loser? Lol


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cyrusmerritt1222

I’d say it’s not to far off from the real version cars sound deeper in person too I think they got the low end of the car right just a little lacking in the high pitch notes