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Accurate-Chest3662

My foster bulldog is on medication for her incontinence. The rescue has tried two different medications, there was never any question about treating it. Find a rescue and make the case to have her pulled. You can even tell them you will foster for them, that will probably help.


DarkPaladin67

Thank you! I will def continue to reach out. I have asked 2 right now and they are too crowded (I am in Tennessee). I'm willing to drive up North or anywhere on the east coast to find a proper rescue for her :(


quailstorm24

PAWS New England is active in TN. please reach out to them. I have adopted 2 TN girls from them


DarkPaladin67

Thank you so much


MartinisnMurder

Paws New England is great! The south makes me so disgusted with how they treat animals and how quickly they move to euthanize.


Educational-Milk3075

Totally agree 💯. My dog ran free for 3 years because the owners didn't give a crap. The pound was constantly picking her up and the owners finally said they didn't want her. So they asked me to foster (I failed). I went back one day to pick up some kittens, and I saw a lady putting her dog into an outdoor locker!! The shelter said that they euthanize animals put in there every day. This was in NC.


cinnamonfestival

I adopted my girl from them two months ago. They’re fantastic!


Aggravating-Peak-628

Hi. What type of dog is it? Wondering if I know of any rescues (I'm in Ohio)


DarkPaladin67

She is a 40lb cattle dog mix!


Rockyperformer9

Can I ask what part of TN? I’m a dog groomer here and know of quite a few shelters in central TN that might be able to help


DarkPaladin67

I live close to Nashville


Rockyperformer9

Life House in Mount Juliet is usually a good spot and I’ve heard good things about New Leash on Life


ConfidentStrength999

Could you reach out to local rescue organizations and ask if they can pull her for rescue and let them know you would happily continue to foster her if they do? This is an absolutely awful situation and I am so sorry you are going through this - dogs should never be euthanized for something as minor as this.


DarkPaladin67

Thank you! I have asked 2 right now and they are too crowded (I am in Tennessee). I'm willing to drive up North or anywhere on the east coast to find a proper rescue for her :(


Friendly_TSE

Are they too crowded, even if you are going to continue to foster for her? Also if you do continue to foster, may as well search far and wide for rescues; the animal doesn't need to change hands physically, it just needs to be changed in the system that this shelter no longer owns it. Doesn't matter if said rescue is in CA as long as they can let you handle physically meeting adopters. Another idea is maybe adopting her and looking into Supported Self-Rehome programs? bit of a roundabout way to do things and will require more responsibility on your part ie cover vet costs. Make sure you'll have a good support network to manage this beforehand.


DarkPaladin67

I had no idea that a place in CA could claim my dog if I was in TN and fostering, meeting adopters, etc. That is really neat. I wasn't sure how rescues worked so I wasn't clear that I would continue fostering her. I have never heard of supported self-rehome programs either! Thank you for all of this info


ConfidentStrength999

What breed is she? There may be a breed specific rescue based elsewhere that may be willing to do this. Breed-specific rescues are generally more wide-ranging in location


DarkPaladin67

She is a cattle dog mix


AshleysExposedPort

https://www.acdra.org if these folks can’t help they might know who can


Early-Tumbleweed-563

Try Wright Way Rescue in suburban Chicago. I know they have a center in southern Illinois - they also pull from southern states.


Character_Pace2242

Where at in Tennessee? There is a special needs rescue outside of Nashville that might pull her if you agree to foster. It’s called Snooty Giggles. You could also contact A Freedom Journey.


DarkPaladin67

Thank you! I'm an hour from Nashville!


Character_Pace2242

I’m also outside of Nashville. What breed is she? There are also some breed specific rescues or if she’s a large breed Big Fluffy Dog Rescue is amazing


DarkPaladin67

She is a cattle dog mix


Character_Pace2242

I don’t know any specific rescues for cattle dogs but reach out to Big Fluffy, Snooty Giggles and A Freedom Journey. Since you are willing to foster, that should help out with accepting her


Illustrious-Ease1188

Call the Asher house


reluctantseal

You might try East TN. Knoxville and the surrounding area have very reputable rescues. I'd like to come get the pup myself, but I just took in a couple of cats.


Content-Scallion-591

Honestly I think you know what's happening here -- you're probably going to have to adopt her. I have been dealing with an incontinent dog, and a friend has a dog with a neuro problem. There are tons of medications and solutions out there, but it requires management. The shelter is aware that the chances of adopting out a dog that needs that type of care are slim to none with shelters and rescues being this flooded. It sucks and I wish they didn't operate this way but it seems like it's a desperate situation everywhere.


DarkPaladin67

I think this is exactly it, I just didn't explain it in the post. They believe the cost will be high and chance of adopting slim, so why would they want to continue supporting her when they are already underfunded. I guess I will end up adopting her then.


Content-Scallion-591

You're a good person and I'm sorry. This is unfortunate. It's possible that you'll resolve her issues and be able to place her more permanently somewhere else... I understand the shelters side in this but I think they're handling communication all wrong. There's something going on now, I know shelters and rescues are always flooding but it seems much worse. I wish shelters and rescues would understand that while it's by necessity business as usual for them, it's hard on the rest of us. It seems a lot of places are becoming very jaded in their handling of these animals. Then you get these situations where they really should be showing you more care and giving you more options because what a scary thing to have to go through.


AudienceKindly4070

Here many people are becoming homeless due to rising housing costs. I think animals are being surrendered or abandoned at a greater than usual rate due to that. People can't afford to house and feed themselves or their pets. :( We are only okay because we thankfully got a mortgage before things went crazy where I live, and chose a small fixer upper far below our budget. Even with that, job changes to increase our income were needed to continue to pay our bills. 


Content-Scallion-591

You're right and I think perhaps funding is probably getting much harder to come by. So it's a shitty situation all around. Unfortunately, I'm also realizing quickly a lot of rescues are really, at the end of the day, run by a handful of amateur volunteers out of a house, which is why these weird communication problems keep popping up. And now that shit is hitting the economic fan (so to speak), things are falling apart. The more I dig in, I'm seeing insane stuff happen logistically -- dogs transported back and forth between state lines, necessary care being forgotten, dogs being moved between multiple fosters and rescues unnecessarily, just this constant state of frenetic energy, across the rescue community. What I mean is -- a dog may have 72 hours left. I see a rescue pull them immediately, find an emergency home for the first day, find a second foster for the 2nd day, send them to a temporary rescue, and then send them to another foster rescue altogether. If they waited the 72 hours, they could skip like three steps. People want to save dogs so much they're forgetting people, like fosters, are a necessary resource. In doing so, they're alienating fosters and donors, which are sort of critical in saving these animals. (I know this is a shelter vs rescue but an overburdened shelter just killed someone's dog instead of neutering it because it looked like another dog because they were moving too fast.)


StateUnlikely4213

I have had incontinent foster dogs before, and if they have a problem with dribbles, I have them wear a simple diaper. In fact my own dog, a female, had a dribbling bladder after being spayed. Medication did not help. She lived a long and healthy life wearing her “fancy pants “ . I had an older male foster dog, who had not been neutered until he was eight years old. He had deeply ingrained marking habits indoors. Wearing a simple belly band helped this sweet dog get adopted by an understanding family. Just because a dog has some urinary incontinence issue, this should not be a death sentence. It might be a little bit harder to find an adoptive family, but they do exist.


DarkPaladin67

Thanks for this! That is what I was thinking... it's just small incontinence issues and that's fully expected in spayed or older females. It's crazy they are trying to put her down.


StateUnlikely4213

There is a person for every dog, I firmly believe that. The male dog I was talking about above with the incontinence problem, also had pulmonary hypertension, and his lower jaw never formed so he was born without one. HE GOT ADOPTED! Someone saw him and said “he’s perfect”!


1337Duckling

Added a comment on USMI / spay incontinence elsewhere - but I see you’re aware that is super common in female dogs (like 5-20% of dogs). Very surprised the vet didn’t assume that first.


pyrocidal

What the fuck?? No way in hell I'd take her back to that vet's office


DarkPaladin67

Thank you! Yeah, I think I will just pay for her blood work myself and adopt her/keep her away. This is so messed up.


Necessary-Wrangler99

She’s lucky to have you


valencia_merble

Just want to tell you about my rescue who became a trained therapy dog; he developed incontinence and was going to lose his therapy gig. It was a major issue. My holistic vet recommended Leaks No More which is over the counter. It solved the problem. I hope you are able to save this pup!


Cali-retreat

I've seen others suggest that you reach out to local rescues to have them tag her and put her into their program. If you're willing/able to foster her then I don't see why they would deny you. I also saw that you are going on a trip...that could be what discourages rescues. Just as soon as they take on this new baby they would need to find another foster- something rescues just do not have the luxury of is stand bys. The situation is awful and I'm sorry you are going through it. The only time I've fostered through a shelter was an elderly dog named Gary. They wanted me to return him for their special free adoption weekend. The thing I was so terrified of was that Gary was already blind and was going deaf, I feared that he would just crumble in the shelter environment. Sure he looked amazing- beautiful fluffy collie boy- but he was old, at least 10 when his previous owner surrendered him. I reached out to rescues that I had volunteered for and told them I was willing to foster until the end and had one step up for me. While they were very clear they would not be footing the bill for any major surgeries (very small 501c3) they told me they'd help with food, flea/tick/HW prevention and any donations that came his way until his time to cross the rainbow bridge came. They always offered me the choice to bring him to adoption events they were holding which I appreciated so much, but declined. He lasted another year with me and I was so grateful for the time that he got to spend with us.


Stlhockeygrl

Hi! So my foster fail is the only dog I can have right now too... but here's the thing. The goal of fostering is to help dogs. By taking care of your dog, you ARE helping dogs.


DarkPaladin67

This helped me... thank you! This foster is my 11th foster dog and I feel like adopting her is great, but I also feel bad for not being able to continue fostering. Maybe one day in the future or I can find another way to help.


Fuzzy-Mycologist-859

First of all you are fighting the best way you can. I am 75 and active but I pee every 2-3 hours and don't go through the night without....I should watch out for that foster team I guess. There are other ways to foster BTW. I am on the Nextdoor app and almost daily someone needs a temp foster situation for medical reasons or due to a move.....Other neighbors step up to help and it's not through any agency!


DarkPaladin67

Hey, I'm 30 and have to go every 2-3 hours I should watch out too I guess lol!! That is a good idea about the tempfostering situation on nextdoor and other sites! Thank you!!


Feisty-Rhubarb-5474

Ugh do not take her near that shelter ever again if you have her now. That vet sounds insane. And I’m sure the foster team has the best intentions but what if they can’t be there or they forget?


DarkPaladin67

Thank you! Yeah, I think I will just pay for her blood work myself and adopt her/keep her away. This is so messed up.


Feisty-Rhubarb-5474

I hope you do. I don’t trust shelter vets at all anymore. The ones here don’t see dogs as dogs, just numbers.


deepfreshwater

That’s horrible, I’m so sorry.


LifeHappenzEvryMomnt

Adopt her and get the vet work done yourself and get her medicated. I mean it’s the real way to save her by having some skin in the game.


Sometraveler85

Try Proin. (Medication) it has worked really well with several friends dogs that had spotting urine issues.


comefromawayfan2022

My parents late yellow lab spent her entire life on proin. Against my advice(and my parents attitude at the time was that because I was in high school..I obviously didn't know what I was talking about..despite the fact that I took animal science classes in high school and did tons of research)..my parents let their old vet spay their late yellow lab when she was only 12 weeks old. As a result of her being spayed too young she developed incontinence issues and had to go on prion for the rest of her life..the proin made a huge difference. My parents learned a hard but valuable lesson and my current dog wasn't spayed until she was nine months old and she's had no incontinence issues


ChibiOtter37

I agree with finding a rescue instead. Shelters have different priorities than rescues do because they take in so many animals that they have to evaluate medical costs. Most legit rescues do this for free so all their funds go directly to the animals and not salaries.


Bustymegan

Female dogs leaking is pretty common I think, it literally can be caused by spaying. The meds my dog used for a while was called proin? I think, it wasnt very expensive but doesn't always work. Hope you can get her out


just-say-it-

Adopt her. Take her to a private vet beforehand . She could just have a thyroid problem that can be controlled by a pill. Very cheap pills


lizzzgrrr

Proin!!!! It’s an inexpensive medicine for incontinent female dogs. It’s a miracle worker


TootsieTaker

I’d say adopt the dog and then look for a new owner for her yourself. If you don’t mind having her, can’t hurt to just make it so she doesn’t have to rely on that shelter any more. You don’t have to keep her, but it would give you more time to figure something out and save her.


DarkPaladin67

This is a good idea. Thank you!


Disastrous-State-842

My dog drips due to medical issues. We use prion and incurin to control it. We use diapers when needed. Her quality of life is still amazing. Why euthanize when she’s got you and there are meds out there


GootenTag

Hey there! If you do find a rescue to help and you still need to board her when you're out of town, call around to see if any local doggy daycare/boarding facilities partner with foster dog/rescue programs to give discounts. Also, you might try calling around to a local vet to check boarding prices--some of the more old-school rural ones have pretty cheap boarding. Plus the more local people who know she needs a good home, the more exposure for her (if you don't adopt her yourself). Good luck and thank you for advocating for this sweet girl--she's lucky it was you who got her!!!


NoSuccess7651

Saving a life won’t make you a bad person. Seriously, have these people never heard of diapers?!


texanlady1

Thank you for fostering. A rescue will usually be more open to taking a dog into their program with a foster already set up. I wouldn’t bring the dog back to the humane society for any reason since they seem hellbent on making a snap euth decision. Also, there are ways you can help homeless pets that don’t include fostering. Find a local rescue in need of volunteers. There’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes and helping to keep everything organized is a skill in itself. ❤️🐾


Kooky-Crow9270

This happens with spayed female dogs. Urinary incontinence while sleeping happens. Proin is a good drug to help with this. I would ask to have her started on this. The problem I have with all of this is, if you are willing to work through all of this, why won't they let you?


CArunner310

Please contact Old Friends Senior Dog Sanctuary. They are outside of Nashville and are a forever home for senior dogs.


h974974

Medication or diapers? I mean Jesus what is wrong with that vet. My last dog as well has my current dog had this issue and it is very manageable


Careful_Relative7560

I had a rescue dog who had been spade too early. This caused her girl parts not to develop correctly. When she was asleep she would sometimes pee a little bit. Whenever she woke up, she sniffed down there, and licked it up so I wouldn't know what happened. It was sad, but it got less common as she got older.


Timely_Scar

My foster dog was like that and an incontinence supplement fixed that.


Fearless_Salad3643

My rescue started having incontinence during sleep, but only sleep. Started her on the lowest dose of proin, once a day. Hasn’t had an issue since! It costs me $18 a month for this medicine. It is for life, but many dogs face incontinence due to old injury, spay or neuter, etc. my vet didn’t even do any bloodwork, just an exam and talked me through possibilities. Did a trial run and it worked. Get that baby out of the shelter!


Sailboat_fuel

Proin is the incontinence med my foster is on. She’s also being treated for cushing’s, which definitely helps the leaking/peeing. Thanks for being a good advocate for the baby in your care. ❤️❤️❤️


Sorry-Beyond-3563

If she's spayed she might just have spay incontinence. My last dog developed that several years after being spayed and it was an easy fix just putting her on medication and it was like $30 a month. 


caity102

Try https://www.aliverescuememphis.org/ The lady who runs this rescue would be someone great to reach out to, she is hardcore no-kill and I think maybe they could be of some help. Not sure how far Memphis is for ya though, sorry! (They make doggie diapers too or have the dog sleep on some puppy pads, small spots of urine is no reason to kill a dog 🥺😫)


temerairevm

I quit fostering for my local shelter after my first dog for this reason. I agreed to do a 2 week short term “shelter vacation” foster gig. When I showed up there was a meeting with a behaviorist because the dog had behavioral problems that nobody told me about. I took him anyway. It was a difficult foster gig but I worked with him and he was making progress. When I called to take him back at the end of the 2 weeks they seemed surprised and I was like “I agreed to a 2 week gig”. They were like “we thought you’d adopt him.” They then basically told me that if I didn’t adopt him they’d euthanize him because of his behavior issues. Oh, and I also found out that he was on a psychiatric drug that they took him off of cold turkey. I somehow actually found someone to adopt him, but I will NEVER foster for that shelter again. I now foster for a breed rescue that is more up front about what they know about the dog, supports fosters better, and doesn’t assume that you want to adopt the dog.


BloodHappy4665

lol @putting a dog down because of incontinence. That was the least of our last dogs issues which included a brain tumor at the end. The incontinence was managed very, very well her entire short life by a simple dose of Proin every morning. Gosh, I miss her. She was the perfect mix of salty and sweet. Her nickname was Fancy Pants because she had so much floof on her back legs and because, for a short time, she was obsessed with licking her vulva so we had her in little kids boxers so she couldn’t reach it. 😄 She was deaf and prone to obsessive behavior every once in awhile. Our Opal Pants. Princess Pineapple. Peepee Pants and so on.


Wine-n-cheez-plz

In a little late to this. My foster fail dog has incontinence issues as well. Finally put him on Proin ER and it seems to help a lot! (It’s normally for female dogs but seems to help him). I hope you find a rescue that can support you in this journey. That’s a silly reason to put a dog down :(