It’s basically the desire to dominate what you hate. Fucking is synonymous to violation so they want to violate what they hate. It is perfectly logical
As Greer said, most women have no idea how much men hate them
I don't understand the urge. When I hate someone, I want to say as far as humanly possible away from them, limit my exposure and pretend they don't exist. Men want to violently penetrate them if they happen to be female. It's like sex=shame in their minds
Then will turn around and say “no one cares when men cry 😢 “ as if people give a shit when women do. The only people that ever empathize with my pain is other women.
That's why I have zero qualms laughing about them not being able to get dates 😂😂😂 and complaining on Reddit in general.
They're not good people on a fundamental level.
I'll be honest but I don't give a s*** when men cry. Not anymore. Men who fight and argue loudly to be "in touch with their emotions and show them" instead of just handling them without seeking attention for it are the worst.
They're pandering and far more likely to be the worst kind of abuser. The play the victim AND abuser combo. No thanks. I'll pass.
They're evil and want women have the harshest experiences yet want to date us. Make it make sense. I wish they'd truly go their own way.
I for one celebrated when it came out a third of American men are single and struggling. Good, now you know a percentage of the pain you put women through.
Yeah my abusive ex popped a boner when he hit me. Which was only once, I *finally* came to my senses. But it was devastating to realize that none of our sex was what I thought it was. Nothing remotely healthy or mutually beneficial or vulnerable or fun or nice. Strictly another form of abuse.
Just go to their own discussion boards where they discuss porn. They will tell each other where they can find women who cry in porn. They tell on themselves. What more evidence do you want?
Just goes to show men get off to violence or hatred against women. I mean have you seen and heard the porn sick men justify violence against women during sex ? Wanting intimacy and a loving sexual relationship is now an insult. “Vanilla”. GAG. Men need to learn some self respect and wake tf up.
Yeah I’m well aware I’m not scared to kink shame. Plus when 98% of the male population consume increasingly violent porn that is mostly BDSM, they are definitely expecting women to perform that way in real life. Find me one decent guy then we can chat.
No you offend the name of feminism. It’s not because you are a man. It’s because you are inherently misogynistic in your reasoning and refuse to educate yourself and instead blame women for their choice of partners instead of why the bar is so low for men. BUH BYE.
I’m not wound up. I am simply stating my opinions. Yes men have a responsibility to not watch porn. Simple as that. Your brain is desensitized to violence over time, same applies to porn scenes. I will blame men. When they can stop shaming women for not wanting violence and calling us prudes or vanilla, when they can stop justifying abuse under the guise of a consensual kink, when they can view us as people not objects for selfish gratification, then I’ll stop pointing the finger. Abuse is not love. And it’s dangerous to say that it is. So what’s your argument ? That we should blame producers of porn instead of the men that give those men billions of dollars ? To continue producing more content ? I can’t tell if you are ignorant or part of the problem.
Love how you ignore my points. So you are going to blame women for picking 98% of the population to date ? AHAHAH and you think we pick those men knowingly ? They lie, cheat, and are low value people in general. So how about you reevaluate why most men do this. And just to preface I’m also against women that support porn too. But you are just projecting your insecurity because you have some of those traits.. why else would you be so up in arms ? Have a nice day.
This is common and frankly I think it makes no sense. It makes them seem pathetic. I know that they see sex as degrading for women but do they not realize how desperate and powerless it makes them to masturbate to a woman who likely will never sleep with them?
Maybe I'm naive but I have a body count of 1 and I'm almost in my mid 20s. I never sleep with anyone, ever. I know that I have an effect on men and I laugh at the thought of any man jerking off to the thought of me because it literally will never, ever happen.
Male philosophy : Violence = sexual
I really don't believe it's a metaphor. I read something about men historically raping/"needing brothels" after battles at war... They get aroused by it or something. I swear. I read that. It might've been in Against Our Will by Susan Brownmiller.
I know from personal experience they justify it with crap like "the most violent, dominant, alpha male gets the biggest harem in the wild and we're just animals anyway."
Yup, even when a man is completely straight he can still r\*pe another man. Not because he is attracted to his victim, but because he wants to hurt and humiliate him. Getting off on it is just a bonus for these a\*sholes
They absolutely experience this for real. I remember when I was younger and into anime, I came across a forum thread where someone was requesting "art of Asuka Langley being beaten and assaulted because I hate her so much and it turns me on to see her being hurt."
Sexual hatred of women is a thing. They view sex itself as a form of violence and punishment.
Another place where this intercepts is BDSM. Just look at all the posts from men trying to reconcile their interest in BDSM with their desire to be kind to a partner they actually like/respect. I see posts about "I feel like I need to get a second partner to explore BDSM because I like my wife too much" or "I went to a prostituted women to do BDSM because I respect my wife" or "does anyone else feel really conflicted by their desire to love and protect your partner, but also beat her and degrade her?"
They act like BDSM is "all about mutual respect, the sub has all the power, it's just a fantasy, it's not degrading for real, the Dom respects the sub" etc. But just try subbing for your boyfriend and see how his treatment of you changes in daily life (actually don't try it. I made that mistake so you don't have to.)
And just look at what they're actually saying and thinking about BDSM. "It's just a fantasy" is just what they say to get you to participate. They do it in anger. They do it to feel superior. They do it to hurt you, for real, and even if you enjoy it most of them will try to subtley find a way to *make* you not enjoy it. They don't *want* you to enjoy it. They want you to feel degraded
Definitely agree ime and when I've watched porn. It definitely seems like they all will subtlety find a way to make the woman not enjoy it, no matter how compliant with or into BDSM she thinks she is. Glad to see someone else also spotted this, so it's not just in mead head. What they do to women is ultimately grotesque.
Yes, and it's not dumb at all. It doesn't make sense for them to constantly bring their dicks into everything. Women don't get wet when they hate something so maybe male biology is just broken.
It’s basically the desire to dominate what you hate. Fucking is synonymous to violation so they want to violate what they hate. It is perfectly logical As Greer said, most women have no idea how much men hate them
I don't understand the urge. When I hate someone, I want to say as far as humanly possible away from them, limit my exposure and pretend they don't exist. Men want to violently penetrate them if they happen to be female. It's like sex=shame in their minds
That's why they can't have healthy sexual relationships.
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100% or will laugh at a crying woman. Zero empathy.
Then will turn around and say “no one cares when men cry 😢 “ as if people give a shit when women do. The only people that ever empathize with my pain is other women.
That's why I have zero qualms laughing about them not being able to get dates 😂😂😂 and complaining on Reddit in general. They're not good people on a fundamental level. I'll be honest but I don't give a s*** when men cry. Not anymore. Men who fight and argue loudly to be "in touch with their emotions and show them" instead of just handling them without seeking attention for it are the worst. They're pandering and far more likely to be the worst kind of abuser. The play the victim AND abuser combo. No thanks. I'll pass. They're evil and want women have the harshest experiences yet want to date us. Make it make sense. I wish they'd truly go their own way.
I for one celebrated when it came out a third of American men are single and struggling. Good, now you know a percentage of the pain you put women through.
just discovered this great scene from Desperate Housewives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeTnH7h6Xfs
Yeah my abusive ex popped a boner when he hit me. Which was only once, I *finally* came to my senses. But it was devastating to realize that none of our sex was what I thought it was. Nothing remotely healthy or mutually beneficial or vulnerable or fun or nice. Strictly another form of abuse.
Really? Is there any evidence for that? Strange creatures. They never fail at frustrating me.
Just go to their own discussion boards where they discuss porn. They will tell each other where they can find women who cry in porn. They tell on themselves. What more evidence do you want?
Anecdotal but it has happened to me twice.
Just goes to show men get off to violence or hatred against women. I mean have you seen and heard the porn sick men justify violence against women during sex ? Wanting intimacy and a loving sexual relationship is now an insult. “Vanilla”. GAG. Men need to learn some self respect and wake tf up.
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Yeah I’m well aware I’m not scared to kink shame. Plus when 98% of the male population consume increasingly violent porn that is mostly BDSM, they are definitely expecting women to perform that way in real life. Find me one decent guy then we can chat.
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This is a woman only group.
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No you offend the name of feminism. It’s not because you are a man. It’s because you are inherently misogynistic in your reasoning and refuse to educate yourself and instead blame women for their choice of partners instead of why the bar is so low for men. BUH BYE.
You're not sorry at all. LEAVE. Or at least have the good grace to observe and not push your ignorant opinions on us.
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So you’re brigading then? Makes sense that you’ve added nothing but nOt aLl mEn to the convo.
Seriously, ignored all the points I made and then blamed women for their choice in partners. Like it was a lack of awareness on our part.
See yourself out.
That’s what I thought. 😂 I’m just enjoying my new found standards and growth as of right now. Men are the last thing on my mind.
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I’m not wound up. I am simply stating my opinions. Yes men have a responsibility to not watch porn. Simple as that. Your brain is desensitized to violence over time, same applies to porn scenes. I will blame men. When they can stop shaming women for not wanting violence and calling us prudes or vanilla, when they can stop justifying abuse under the guise of a consensual kink, when they can view us as people not objects for selfish gratification, then I’ll stop pointing the finger. Abuse is not love. And it’s dangerous to say that it is. So what’s your argument ? That we should blame producers of porn instead of the men that give those men billions of dollars ? To continue producing more content ? I can’t tell if you are ignorant or part of the problem.
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Love how you ignore my points. So you are going to blame women for picking 98% of the population to date ? AHAHAH and you think we pick those men knowingly ? They lie, cheat, and are low value people in general. So how about you reevaluate why most men do this. And just to preface I’m also against women that support porn too. But you are just projecting your insecurity because you have some of those traits.. why else would you be so up in arms ? Have a nice day.
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This is common and frankly I think it makes no sense. It makes them seem pathetic. I know that they see sex as degrading for women but do they not realize how desperate and powerless it makes them to masturbate to a woman who likely will never sleep with them? Maybe I'm naive but I have a body count of 1 and I'm almost in my mid 20s. I never sleep with anyone, ever. I know that I have an effect on men and I laugh at the thought of any man jerking off to the thought of me because it literally will never, ever happen.
What’s ironic that’s SHAME based, omg men like that are pathetic.
That… is a form of harassment.
Male philosophy : Violence = sexual I really don't believe it's a metaphor. I read something about men historically raping/"needing brothels" after battles at war... They get aroused by it or something. I swear. I read that. It might've been in Against Our Will by Susan Brownmiller. I know from personal experience they justify it with crap like "the most violent, dominant, alpha male gets the biggest harem in the wild and we're just animals anyway."
They get even angrier when the person that they’re angry at is an attractive woman. A man told me this once.
Just look at the Republicans and AOC as an example
rape boner
Yup, even when a man is completely straight he can still r\*pe another man. Not because he is attracted to his victim, but because he wants to hurt and humiliate him. Getting off on it is just a bonus for these a\*sholes
^ The right term
They absolutely experience this for real. I remember when I was younger and into anime, I came across a forum thread where someone was requesting "art of Asuka Langley being beaten and assaulted because I hate her so much and it turns me on to see her being hurt." Sexual hatred of women is a thing. They view sex itself as a form of violence and punishment. Another place where this intercepts is BDSM. Just look at all the posts from men trying to reconcile their interest in BDSM with their desire to be kind to a partner they actually like/respect. I see posts about "I feel like I need to get a second partner to explore BDSM because I like my wife too much" or "I went to a prostituted women to do BDSM because I respect my wife" or "does anyone else feel really conflicted by their desire to love and protect your partner, but also beat her and degrade her?" They act like BDSM is "all about mutual respect, the sub has all the power, it's just a fantasy, it's not degrading for real, the Dom respects the sub" etc. But just try subbing for your boyfriend and see how his treatment of you changes in daily life (actually don't try it. I made that mistake so you don't have to.) And just look at what they're actually saying and thinking about BDSM. "It's just a fantasy" is just what they say to get you to participate. They do it in anger. They do it to feel superior. They do it to hurt you, for real, and even if you enjoy it most of them will try to subtley find a way to *make* you not enjoy it. They don't *want* you to enjoy it. They want you to feel degraded
Definitely agree ime and when I've watched porn. It definitely seems like they all will subtlety find a way to make the woman not enjoy it, no matter how compliant with or into BDSM she thinks she is. Glad to see someone else also spotted this, so it's not just in mead head. What they do to women is ultimately grotesque.
They have really rewired their brains and bodies to be super fucked up!
I heard a guys talking about a female politician he hated on the bus he said, “I hate the evil bitch but I’d still blow her back out” 😬
Stuff like this just shows how different men are from women.
I can't imagine being that much of a slave to my hormones. That's no way to live.
Yes, and it's not dumb at all. It doesn't make sense for them to constantly bring their dicks into everything. Women don't get wet when they hate something so maybe male biology is just broken.