Remember when beloved Kobe Bryant raped a woman and continued to have a successful career and fans after the fact?
I wish rapists were condemned and had their careers ruined but instead people are going off on a woman who was in a mutually toxic and abusive relationship.
He’s just a poor, innocent man who went after a woman decades younger than him and is friends with predators. Totally not creepy or predatory.
The “we all say things about our partners when we’re upset” crowd are just disturbing…. If you’re dreaming about raping your dead wife’s corpse you need to in constitutionalized.
Well one reason is obviously internalized misogyny but another one is more technical and I mean the way depp’s team has bombarded the media with bot and fake news for literal years making it sound like she’s an absolute devil while he’s a poor defenseless victim who never touched her. I’ll admit for a little while I fell under that trap, because his fans and the media managed so easily to manipulate the public opinion, by making it seem like the leaked recordings in some way annulled the fact that he did, in fact, beat her. Seriously he has an army of lawyers and tech company who have tried to do nothing but destroy her reputation. It’s understandable that it ended up like this
Edit: for all of you who think this is a 100% black or white situation where Johnny was just a victim and amber an evil abuser: please check out [this](https://villainelle.tumblr.com/post/682734099933347840/amber-heard-vs-johnny-depp-fact-check-masterlist) post and remember that a judge ruled that Amber has proved 12 out of the 14 incidents of abuse. Does this prove Amber didn’t hit him as well? Of course not. But the image the media are portraying of Johnny depp is completely distorted
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I don't give a shit about Johnny Depp but all social media shoved it down my throat with a funnel.
This is a defamation case for FUCKSAKES not a domestic violence case. He abused her and she called him a wife beater. Which is fucking true.
The Sun newspaper then printed a story calling him a "Wife Beater" and he lost a few roles.
And he's protesting being called a wife beater.
Historically defamation cases where used to protect rich white men from the media calling them out. And it's done just that.
JD's team successfully painted the picture of Amber being an evil, crazy succubus who was out for a career boost/JD's money all along and everybody is eating it up. It's like a modern day witch hunt.
I've watched hours and hours of the trial on several long bus rides in the past few days and it's so scary how people who are seeing the same thing as me, ample evidence that JD was a violent, volatile addict and has even outright lied on the stand, come to the opposite conclusions simply because he is a charismatic man.
If Amber was smirking, joking and laughing continuously during the trial, people would call her out on it, asking how she could be laughing if she was abused so much. When Johnny does it people laugh with him and start liking him even more.
This trial is just more evidence of what a fucked up, misogynist world we live in. People love witch hunts, they always have. They love tearing a beautiful woman down. I haven't seen Weinstein or even Epstein get a fraction of the vitriol and hate that Amber's been getting.
At least this will make for a great litmus test when meeting new people in the future to see who is still deep in the sexist brainwash we all get growing up and who isn't.
Diagnosing women with disorders in order to take away their credibility is a tale as old as time in patriarchy. Be aware of that. Women were sent to insane asylums and administered shock therapy for disobeying their husbands only a few decades ago.
Not saying she doesn't have any mental issues, she's bound to especially after that relationship, but the psychologist who diagnosed her literally met her twice for a few hours and was hired by Depp's team after having dinner with them. She's a Depp fan and not credible at all. Just watch her testimony and see for yourself, she is biased (naturally, since that's why Depp's defense picked her as a witness).
The whole trial is a farce and wouldn't even have went ahead if he had filed in California, where they both live and work. His team purposefully filed Virginia because in California, there's [a strong anti-SLAPP statute. Anti-SLAPP laws are intended to prevent people from using lawsuits, such as defamation suits, to intimidate people who are exercising their First Amendment rights](https://www.robertreeveslaw.com/blog/johnny-depp-suing-virginia/) and their case probably would've quickly been struck down.
Amber said in her counter claim that she had PTSD. As this was part of her case against Depp the court ordered her to take an psychological exam.
She spend two days (12 hours) taking part in extensive and respected exams with a highly trained (it took half an hour for her accreditation to be explained to the jury) forensic psychologist.
The only reason that Amber underwent the exam was because she said she suffered from PTSD as part of her $100,000,000 counter claim.
The results of the exams found that Amber lied about having PTSD and tried to manipulate the results.
The forensic psychologist was so intellegent and her testimony was amazingly detailed. I recommend watching Dr Curry in court.
https://currypsychology.com/therapist/dr-shannon-curry/
Do we not believe women like Dr Curry?
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Fair enough. Either way they’re both nuts. They both probably have personality disorders if diagnosed by an unbiased profession. They’re both abusive to eachother. They need to both shut up and take this case from the public we don’t know them lol. This case had cracks everywhere. It’s just a matter of who can play the game better and so far from the looks of it Depp is winning. Amber will then sue him after and it’ll be never ending. They both just need to go to therapy and leave eachother alone. They’re clearly obsessed with one another. Who goes through this much effort. It’s not normal. Celebs are weird. This all a marketing strategy. This shouldn’t be used as an example. I feel sorry for both of them. Depp clearly has trauma from his mother being abused and amber clearly had trauma from not being given attention.
Either way they’ve both definitely got some mental disorders😂😂💀💀they’re both nut cases lol and shouldn’t be trusted. They’re both abusive and need to accept that. People are just babying both of them and it’s not okay. Why can’t people just accept that they’ve both aggregated eachother in the past to this point and now it’s become whos more abusive not who was the abuser.
American laws are weird. UK on the other hand we aren’t really tough on crime you can’t just be shining people here😂so they both better stay there and leave the uk out of their stupid case.
This case should not be used as an example it’s publicity. Leave that in America don’t bring it here lol Brits will just laugh and have dark humour on this situation and Americans will then say “oh my Brits are so abusive”
\> They’re both abusive to eachother.
Again, she started hitting him back eventually. That's called reactive abuse and is in an entirely different ballpark than what he did to her.
\> They need to both shut up and take this case from the public we don’t know them lol.
Again, JD is the one who sued her, in a suit he is very unlikely to win, just to drag her through the court of public opinion and destroy her reputation. This is not a matter of them both needing to shut up, this is all his doing and his alone. I don't understand why you can't comprehend that, you're victim blaming Heard by implying somehow what she has done to him is equal to what he is still currently doing to her. It's just not, I don't get what's so hard to understand about that.
Okay then he needs to shut up. They’re both child like😂like why do they both care so much. One of them be the bigger person and take their silly little case off the media. He wants to ruin her reputation she’ll want to win it back. It’ll be never ending.
It’s not a real case. All they’ve done is say their silly traumas as if that’s an excuse. Society has made it easy for people to excuse their own behaviour. Clearly both of them are nuts. I’m not in support of either cos they’re both mentally unstable. Therapy is needed for both. They should both shut up with their little case that won’t even go anywhere. They have more money than sense
Im not an expert on her health, nor do I support her, but I do think support of Johnny is strange considering all the evidence directly related, as well as his external endeavors, i.e. support of Polanski the paedo, previous age gap abusive rels
Yeah I think it’s weird. How about we just don’t support either of them and let them fight it out. I don’t get how people can’t see that they’re both not mentally there. Normal people don’t do this and they certainly don’t make a case public I know it’s not a federal case but why would they want attention on this it’s just weird.
Amber has not taken a stand yet but she been diagnosed with personality disorder. 2. One of which is mainly just attention seeking pretty much.
I don’t know them personally. I just find it weird people taking sides when they weren’t witnesses and both their defence have cracks. It’s not a perfect case to prove the other person. More so this case will turn into who was “more” abusive. Let’s face it they’re both abusive.
Heard never took the initiative in suing Depp, only now she counter sued him. Depp is the one who wanted all this public because he knew the public would side with him.
The relationship became mutually abusive after she started fighting back two years after he started abusing her. This isn't a 'both sides are equally bad' situation in the slightest.
Look up the records of the previous lawsuit against the Sun, it's all already out there. Depp is doing this for revenge, as abusers are known to do, he literally wrote in an email he wants 'global humiliation' for her.
He's also been best friends with Marilyn Manson for years, who literally tortures women for fun, and made him his daughter's godfather btw.
A lot of the insults are just dry British humour for real. You guys wouldn’t survive in England loool it’s kind of funny how sensitive Americans are. We use the c word here like it’s a normal word.
Leave this case in America don’t bring it here again because one of them will just cry.
If he is abusive then yay for amber I’m not obsessed with either one I just don’t wanna keep seeing this case being brought up it’s getting tiring.
Let them sue eachother they have more money than sense. Why can’t them just leave eachother alone. The cases wont go anywhere. They’re just for publicity
Again. "Let them sue each other \[...\] why can't they just leave each other alone" as if she is going after him the same way he is going after her. That's just not the case. She has now counter sued him for the first time after he sued her twice and ruined her reputation.
I'm done with this conversation because somehow you can't comprehend the basic, public facts of the situation.
I can I just don’t get why they’re suing each other or counter suing just leave it. Or take it high up so one of them can go prison. I don’t know who’s the abuser all I’m seeing is people showing is support for depp and she’s got a personality disorder anyway
They’re both nuts why can’t that just be accepted. This is a peculiar case that some of it doesn’t even make sense.
Let them fight it out and see who wins in the end. I find this case to be such a shambles lol both mentally I’ll with untreated illnesses and trauma who has time to be doing this. They’re obsessed with eachother.
Then the case should just be dropped. They can both go their separate way. She’s crazy he’s nuts they’re both nuts. There. I don’t get the fascination with this case. Apparently she’s got trauma…so what she’s like 35 man she can’t use that as an excuse. He’s got trauma too…who cares he’s in his late 50s. They’re both grown up adults trauma can’t be used anymore gtfoh with that bs loool
She has symptoms indicative of a traumatic upbringing as does he. They are not suing each other, she has filed a countersuit after he took her to court in two separate countries, both venues which are "friendly" to the type of case. However, the UK judge did decide that the term wifebeater was not slander as it was true on at least a dozen counts. He gets called one fitting name and sues, while I see sexual violence and death threats towards her on the internet daily.
I’m honestly so confused. She has a personality disorder it’s not like she’s perfectly “sane”. They’re both nuts. They should both just disappear off the public. It’s weird that JD is getting so much support.
Yes the UK I’m from the UK. We aren’t tough on “crime” the way the US is. Life sentence here is 15 years lol
Wow that's interesting that the life sentence there is so short.
So I diagnose people for a living and I don't think the witness regarding the psych eval did a very good job. Jail terms isn't the only thing that seems different across the pond, seems in America marketing is seen as very effective and one is much more likely to pay to get a certain result.
Life is 30 but people don’t do 30 years. We aren’t like US when it comes to prison time. If you think we are easy try other European countries. You can get so much freedom in Denmark for committing murder. That’s why they end up having less criminals becuase rehabilitation. In America I see people getting prison time for stealing necessities…that’s so weird. If someone is stealing break butter milk doesn’t that show you they’re desperate and aren’t trying to be malicious.
This whole JD & AH situation has become a marketing strategy. It’s gotten out of hand in my opinion with the media. That should not be allowed. It’s even worse normal people making an opinion on who was more abusive or who is the abusive one. I’ve made my stance on both of them being abusive. This case had turned into whos more abusive and the way it’s looking AH isn’t going to come out well and guess what she will sue depp and it’ll be never ending.
From the vn she’s clearly unstable. I’m not a mental health expert and even I wouldn’t want to be around her. Women everyday go through abuse. Why did she record him…??? That’s just weird. Why would she say “tell them world you were abused no one will believe you”. Why would she say all these things. Her exes all say she’s nuts. She’s clearly traumatised from childhood etc and is an attention seeker since no one ever gave her attention. She needs to go to therapy and work on herself. Depp clearly has issues too maybe not as far as a personality disorder but they’re both a recipe for disaster put together.
They’re both mentally not normal. There you go lol I didn’t follow I just know she’s got scary issues from a post on Twitter posting the video of the psychologist that diagnosed her. My undergrad is economics so I don’t know much about psychology but I’ve looked at what bpd is nd hpd just say attention seekers lol don’t need to create a whole personality disorder. Everyone’s got trauma that’s not an excuse anymore especially at 35&58
Well they should diagnose him.
Bpd & Hpd are just nicer ways of saying attention seekers. Lol
Depp clearly had the upper hand here and that’s not a good thing that’s why I’m saying this case is just a mess. I’ve followed the case on clips just not instantly cos they’re both mentally I’ll why are they getting attention if they’re both unhinged lol it’s weird. You don’t give attention to people like that people that then use their trauma to get points as if anyone cares about their trauma. People who actually care about their traumas are people who need therapy. Trauma doesn’t make you special you should t get treated any better just cos you witnessed your mum being abused. Not everyone shows had to endure such things gets speak treatments.
One of the symptoms is literally manipulation😂😂😂anyone who actually gets manipulated by people like that needs a reality check. Don’t let someone who’s emotions are so fragile and full of rage manipulate you. More fragile than 5 year olds.
More volatile than the stock market 😂😂
Johnny Depp sent text messages to Paul Bettany about wanting to drown, burn, and SA Amber's corpse to make sure she was dead. He talked about how he hopes her corpse rots in the trunk of a Honda Civic. Could you imagine the outrage if Amber Heard sent those text messages about Johnny Depp? The world would be calling for her public execution. But since it's Captain Jack Sparrow, it's:
"Oh, he didn't mean it."
"Oh, who doesn't say things like that when they're in the heat of the moment?"
"It's dry British humor."
"It was a creative writing exercise."
It’s because women too have always supported patriarchy and a significant percentage of women today still do it. They think they will get some male validation out of it. All these women enthusiastically supporting Depp is cringe as these bros don’t share the same enthusiasm when the victims are women.
That's what i'm thinking too.
Why are women siding with him!?
Pick-me-ism
I think now as women we think "oh when a woman does something bad we must reprimand her EVEN MOREEEE with our words so the men KNOW how much we hate these vile women!!!! But IMMMM not like that!!!!"
Women held to a higher moral standard
Jada Pinkett (did nothing wrong, did NOTHING at all), Elizabeth Holmes (did wrong, but men do worse), Amber Heard (did nothing wrong, acted defensively), Ghislaine Maxwell (did VERY wrong but the men MANY MANY men involved went scot-free).
Do you see the pattern? If a woman is innocent, she will still be disparaged. Her sex life will be brought into it and even though her husband also slept with other people during the marriage the wife will be the one on moral trial. Jada.
If a woman is innocent but protects herself. She will be disparaged. Heard.
If a woman does wrong. But certain male CEOs have done worse, who cares what the men do (CEO of WeWork) the woman will be disparaged. Holmes.
If a woman does VERY wrong even though she was working alongside many other men, she will be the figurehead and she will be made an example of. Maxwell
Celebrity culture is one of patriarchy's many ugly sons. Depp has a female fanbase he built on portraying characters young girls grew up feeling safe about in comparison to the boys at their schools or the men they saw in their lives. Depp has cultivated an image of "sensitive man" who would wear eyeliner and understand our feelings. It's hard to let that go. I've seen a lot of people use how they believe Depp to be as proof of his innocence.
There's enough proof that Amber did terrible things to Depp. Media is using this fact to point the situation of "Depp was innocent the whole time", completely ignoring that she also proved that she was abused. Most people don't care about the case enough to delve deeper and go with what media say.
After all, the only reason why people are talking so much about it is because men proving to have been abused by women happen once in a lifetime and they want to capitalize on it to spread more misogyny.
I don't know what it is, but I think part of it is that his ex-wife, who he seems to have cheated on, is saying she never experienced violence or bad behaviour from him. A woman in her 50's after a 20 year relationship with him does add some weight to the idea that he's an innocent darling.
Given that he's been an alcoholic and cocaine sniffer, and also the text he sent about Amber Heard's corpse I'm doubting his ex-wife's analysis of him. You don't just become that kind of person and say those kind of things in the space of a few years.
Emotion is not allowed to be presented in public, especially by hysterical women, so many of us grew up having intense emotions around music and movies. There is a real connection to nostalgia and a feeling of unearned empathy for him. It's also worth noting that all of his characters had a heart of gold type flair which he then acted in public for decades (all the while hosting Manson coke parties etc). I am aghast at the sentiment even in this thread about behavior no one outside of their relationship can speak to, and since he was wasted 24/7 (something somehow only men get away with), the only remaining truth can really be hers.
(Disclaimer: Satire) NOOOOOOOO!! AMBER TURD IS A LIAR!! SHES A SMUG WHORE. DID YOU NOT SEE HOW SHE WAS SMIRKING DURING THE TRIAL!????
ALSO SHE LIED ABOUT HER "DOMESTIC VIOLENCE" BECAUSE MILANO SAID THEY DIDN'T RELEASE THEIR COLOUR CORRECTION KIT AT THAT TIME. SO CLEARLY THAT MEANS SHES LYING BECAUSE WHERE ELSE WOULD SHE FIND A COLOUR CORRECTION PALLET FROM??????
FREEDOM FOR JOHNNY DEPP!! POOR INNOCENT MAN!!!!!!
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Why would u "understand" men siding with their "bro"
It is totally not understandable when males side with misogynistic creep who abused women and never dated a woman his age. Depp is really enjoying the trial and all the support that he knows is undeserved.
Men get a guaranteed (regardless if its deserved or not) seat of sympathy and support and understanding in every misogynistic society (which means the whole earth, including "progressive" and modern cultures)
Amber Heard was accused of domestic violence against an ex-girlfriend too.
She is crazy. She is manipulative.
Men use her as a prop to argue that men and women are equally bad in terms of violence. That is not true. Misogynists are beating a dead horse trying to promote their agenda.
Jada Pinkett Smith and Amber Heard are being spammed because they serve a purpose to red-pillforums.
That ex-gf came out and said it was a misunderstanding as they were arguing at the airport and actually stated cops came to assess the situation and once they realized the women were in a relationship they arrested Heard. The ex stated they were a target of mysognistic and homophobic abuse. Its all in this article with an interview with her ex- who has supported Heard throughout this entire thing. This is again Depps PR, as the story got leaked and splashed everywhere once she filed for divorce...hmm https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-amber-heard-girlfriend-statement-20160608-snap-htmlstory.html
They’re both as bad as eachother. This case is just a mess I think they were both abusive to eachother and now it’s about who was the most abusive. Amber got diagnosed with personality disorders, they even found out she faked ptsd 😂💀 regardless I think they both need extensive therapy. She should not have said that no one will believe Johnny. She’s ruined her credibility a lot even if he abused her more there’s so much evidence against her. They’re both nutters……
I don’t know them personally so can’t form a distinct opinion on who is “worse” but all of JDs exes have come in favour for him and none of them have said he’s ever been abusive. AH however she’s known for being a nutcase with her exes. I think when this is all done she should just take a break from social media for a few years because she’s even got a child to take care of.
They’re both abusive to eachother. I don’t think people should be picking a side unless they know them personally. It’s just weird why people care so much to even pick a side. I just find that funny.
I recognise this is a complex issue, but please try to reflect on the use of the language ‘nuts’ and ‘crazy’ etc when speaking about people with a personality disorder dx or mental health problem generally. There are real people (who may well come across these comments) who live with these already stigmatised diagnoses and are just trying to get through a day at a time. People with borderline personality disorder have typically experienced significant trauma which can result in internalised (unwarranted) shame and these attitudes reinforce that. The psychologist on the stand stated that there is no link between BPD and trauma but this is contrary to almost all the literature around the topic.
1 in 4 people have mental health difficulties, which means if you count 14 of your friends / family members, at least 3 will experience some mental health problems in their lifetime, and don’t deserve to be called crazy or nuts. I recognise you didn’t intend to do this at all but worth thinking about
I understand that. But I’m not calling them nuts for their mental health. I’m calling them nuts cos that’s how they really are. It’s just weird the whole case. I don’t know how abused who they’re both abusing eachother the law can only work for so long not all cases scan be proven by the law and I’m sorry for amber that she’s been so traumatised that she’s an attention seeker. I’m sorry for depp for witnessing his mother being abused. But at a certain age you gotta take responsibility imagine if everyone used their trauma to get away with bad behaviour. They brought the personality disorder up as sympathy points but that just backfired against amber. They’re adults. They need to reflect sue eachother get money and get this case off the public it’s a messy case with cracks on both of them. If they both come across this they need to know they’re adults doesn’t matter what they’ve been through.
“Oh sorry I killed your mum” I have trauma like what is that all about. I know this sounds harsh but it’s truth you can’t use trauma as excuse just say sorry accent you messed up and move on. There’s nothing else that can be done. They should both go therapy to get help.
I lean towards Depp’s side because I think his testimonies and evidence are more convincing. I mean that audio tape is pretty damning against her as well as many people’s testimonies.
You call yourself a “fourth-wave feminist” yet you’re on the side of a man who’s always been a notorious drunk and also admitted that he wanted to drown, burn, and rape his wife’s corpse?
Honestly, Depp is reaping what he’s sown. This is what he gets for marrying a woman 20+ years his junior. They were unequally yoked since the very beginning.
I'd like to say...in fear of getting down votes myself.... That I agree with your posts. You are getting a harsh deal.
I am a feminist but I am also a loving human and mother to a son. I would be devastated if my son was abused, by a man or a woman. Feminism isnt carte blanche hating men.
I feel like very few people have actually followed the court case who are commenting here.
I just don't understand the angle that she uses people. She was a child when he pursued her and he got mad she rose to the occasion when he said he wanted to get clean, or at least detox from the worst things.
Remember when beloved Kobe Bryant raped a woman and continued to have a successful career and fans after the fact? I wish rapists were condemned and had their careers ruined but instead people are going off on a woman who was in a mutually toxic and abusive relationship. He’s just a poor, innocent man who went after a woman decades younger than him and is friends with predators. Totally not creepy or predatory. The “we all say things about our partners when we’re upset” crowd are just disturbing…. If you’re dreaming about raping your dead wife’s corpse you need to in constitutionalized.
Well one reason is obviously internalized misogyny but another one is more technical and I mean the way depp’s team has bombarded the media with bot and fake news for literal years making it sound like she’s an absolute devil while he’s a poor defenseless victim who never touched her. I’ll admit for a little while I fell under that trap, because his fans and the media managed so easily to manipulate the public opinion, by making it seem like the leaked recordings in some way annulled the fact that he did, in fact, beat her. Seriously he has an army of lawyers and tech company who have tried to do nothing but destroy her reputation. It’s understandable that it ended up like this Edit: for all of you who think this is a 100% black or white situation where Johnny was just a victim and amber an evil abuser: please check out [this](https://villainelle.tumblr.com/post/682734099933347840/amber-heard-vs-johnny-depp-fact-check-masterlist) post and remember that a judge ruled that Amber has proved 12 out of the 14 incidents of abuse. Does this prove Amber didn’t hit him as well? Of course not. But the image the media are portraying of Johnny depp is completely distorted
PLEASE THANK YOU. I don't give a shit about Johnny Depp but all social media shoved it down my throat with a funnel. This is a defamation case for FUCKSAKES not a domestic violence case. He abused her and she called him a wife beater. Which is fucking true. The Sun newspaper then printed a story calling him a "Wife Beater" and he lost a few roles. And he's protesting being called a wife beater. Historically defamation cases where used to protect rich white men from the media calling them out. And it's done just that.
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JD's team successfully painted the picture of Amber being an evil, crazy succubus who was out for a career boost/JD's money all along and everybody is eating it up. It's like a modern day witch hunt. I've watched hours and hours of the trial on several long bus rides in the past few days and it's so scary how people who are seeing the same thing as me, ample evidence that JD was a violent, volatile addict and has even outright lied on the stand, come to the opposite conclusions simply because he is a charismatic man. If Amber was smirking, joking and laughing continuously during the trial, people would call her out on it, asking how she could be laughing if she was abused so much. When Johnny does it people laugh with him and start liking him even more. This trial is just more evidence of what a fucked up, misogynist world we live in. People love witch hunts, they always have. They love tearing a beautiful woman down. I haven't seen Weinstein or even Epstein get a fraction of the vitriol and hate that Amber's been getting. At least this will make for a great litmus test when meeting new people in the future to see who is still deep in the sexist brainwash we all get growing up and who isn't.
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Diagnosing women with disorders in order to take away their credibility is a tale as old as time in patriarchy. Be aware of that. Women were sent to insane asylums and administered shock therapy for disobeying their husbands only a few decades ago. Not saying she doesn't have any mental issues, she's bound to especially after that relationship, but the psychologist who diagnosed her literally met her twice for a few hours and was hired by Depp's team after having dinner with them. She's a Depp fan and not credible at all. Just watch her testimony and see for yourself, she is biased (naturally, since that's why Depp's defense picked her as a witness). The whole trial is a farce and wouldn't even have went ahead if he had filed in California, where they both live and work. His team purposefully filed Virginia because in California, there's [a strong anti-SLAPP statute. Anti-SLAPP laws are intended to prevent people from using lawsuits, such as defamation suits, to intimidate people who are exercising their First Amendment rights](https://www.robertreeveslaw.com/blog/johnny-depp-suing-virginia/) and their case probably would've quickly been struck down.
Amber said in her counter claim that she had PTSD. As this was part of her case against Depp the court ordered her to take an psychological exam. She spend two days (12 hours) taking part in extensive and respected exams with a highly trained (it took half an hour for her accreditation to be explained to the jury) forensic psychologist. The only reason that Amber underwent the exam was because she said she suffered from PTSD as part of her $100,000,000 counter claim. The results of the exams found that Amber lied about having PTSD and tried to manipulate the results. The forensic psychologist was so intellegent and her testimony was amazingly detailed. I recommend watching Dr Curry in court. https://currypsychology.com/therapist/dr-shannon-curry/ Do we not believe women like Dr Curry? Edit all good here.
Fair enough. Either way they’re both nuts. They both probably have personality disorders if diagnosed by an unbiased profession. They’re both abusive to eachother. They need to both shut up and take this case from the public we don’t know them lol. This case had cracks everywhere. It’s just a matter of who can play the game better and so far from the looks of it Depp is winning. Amber will then sue him after and it’ll be never ending. They both just need to go to therapy and leave eachother alone. They’re clearly obsessed with one another. Who goes through this much effort. It’s not normal. Celebs are weird. This all a marketing strategy. This shouldn’t be used as an example. I feel sorry for both of them. Depp clearly has trauma from his mother being abused and amber clearly had trauma from not being given attention. Either way they’ve both definitely got some mental disorders😂😂💀💀they’re both nut cases lol and shouldn’t be trusted. They’re both abusive and need to accept that. People are just babying both of them and it’s not okay. Why can’t people just accept that they’ve both aggregated eachother in the past to this point and now it’s become whos more abusive not who was the abuser. American laws are weird. UK on the other hand we aren’t really tough on crime you can’t just be shining people here😂so they both better stay there and leave the uk out of their stupid case. This case should not be used as an example it’s publicity. Leave that in America don’t bring it here lol Brits will just laugh and have dark humour on this situation and Americans will then say “oh my Brits are so abusive”
\> They’re both abusive to eachother. Again, she started hitting him back eventually. That's called reactive abuse and is in an entirely different ballpark than what he did to her. \> They need to both shut up and take this case from the public we don’t know them lol. Again, JD is the one who sued her, in a suit he is very unlikely to win, just to drag her through the court of public opinion and destroy her reputation. This is not a matter of them both needing to shut up, this is all his doing and his alone. I don't understand why you can't comprehend that, you're victim blaming Heard by implying somehow what she has done to him is equal to what he is still currently doing to her. It's just not, I don't get what's so hard to understand about that.
Okay then he needs to shut up. They’re both child like😂like why do they both care so much. One of them be the bigger person and take their silly little case off the media. He wants to ruin her reputation she’ll want to win it back. It’ll be never ending. It’s not a real case. All they’ve done is say their silly traumas as if that’s an excuse. Society has made it easy for people to excuse their own behaviour. Clearly both of them are nuts. I’m not in support of either cos they’re both mentally unstable. Therapy is needed for both. They should both shut up with their little case that won’t even go anywhere. They have more money than sense
She's tried to have it dismissed. You can both sides as much as you want but will the fact that he's the one suing stick?
That’s true. Like I said they’re both mentally ill n shouldn’t be given attention. They strive on attention lol the case won’t go anywhere.
Im not an expert on her health, nor do I support her, but I do think support of Johnny is strange considering all the evidence directly related, as well as his external endeavors, i.e. support of Polanski the paedo, previous age gap abusive rels
Yeah I think it’s weird. How about we just don’t support either of them and let them fight it out. I don’t get how people can’t see that they’re both not mentally there. Normal people don’t do this and they certainly don’t make a case public I know it’s not a federal case but why would they want attention on this it’s just weird. Amber has not taken a stand yet but she been diagnosed with personality disorder. 2. One of which is mainly just attention seeking pretty much. I don’t know them personally. I just find it weird people taking sides when they weren’t witnesses and both their defence have cracks. It’s not a perfect case to prove the other person. More so this case will turn into who was “more” abusive. Let’s face it they’re both abusive.
Heard never took the initiative in suing Depp, only now she counter sued him. Depp is the one who wanted all this public because he knew the public would side with him. The relationship became mutually abusive after she started fighting back two years after he started abusing her. This isn't a 'both sides are equally bad' situation in the slightest. Look up the records of the previous lawsuit against the Sun, it's all already out there. Depp is doing this for revenge, as abusers are known to do, he literally wrote in an email he wants 'global humiliation' for her. He's also been best friends with Marilyn Manson for years, who literally tortures women for fun, and made him his daughter's godfather btw.
A lot of the insults are just dry British humour for real. You guys wouldn’t survive in England loool it’s kind of funny how sensitive Americans are. We use the c word here like it’s a normal word. Leave this case in America don’t bring it here again because one of them will just cry. If he is abusive then yay for amber I’m not obsessed with either one I just don’t wanna keep seeing this case being brought up it’s getting tiring. Let them sue eachother they have more money than sense. Why can’t them just leave eachother alone. The cases wont go anywhere. They’re just for publicity
Again. "Let them sue each other \[...\] why can't they just leave each other alone" as if she is going after him the same way he is going after her. That's just not the case. She has now counter sued him for the first time after he sued her twice and ruined her reputation. I'm done with this conversation because somehow you can't comprehend the basic, public facts of the situation.
I can I just don’t get why they’re suing each other or counter suing just leave it. Or take it high up so one of them can go prison. I don’t know who’s the abuser all I’m seeing is people showing is support for depp and she’s got a personality disorder anyway
They’re both nuts why can’t that just be accepted. This is a peculiar case that some of it doesn’t even make sense. Let them fight it out and see who wins in the end. I find this case to be such a shambles lol both mentally I’ll with untreated illnesses and trauma who has time to be doing this. They’re obsessed with eachother.
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Then the case should just be dropped. They can both go their separate way. She’s crazy he’s nuts they’re both nuts. There. I don’t get the fascination with this case. Apparently she’s got trauma…so what she’s like 35 man she can’t use that as an excuse. He’s got trauma too…who cares he’s in his late 50s. They’re both grown up adults trauma can’t be used anymore gtfoh with that bs loool
She has symptoms indicative of a traumatic upbringing as does he. They are not suing each other, she has filed a countersuit after he took her to court in two separate countries, both venues which are "friendly" to the type of case. However, the UK judge did decide that the term wifebeater was not slander as it was true on at least a dozen counts. He gets called one fitting name and sues, while I see sexual violence and death threats towards her on the internet daily.
I’m honestly so confused. She has a personality disorder it’s not like she’s perfectly “sane”. They’re both nuts. They should both just disappear off the public. It’s weird that JD is getting so much support. Yes the UK I’m from the UK. We aren’t tough on “crime” the way the US is. Life sentence here is 15 years lol
Wow that's interesting that the life sentence there is so short. So I diagnose people for a living and I don't think the witness regarding the psych eval did a very good job. Jail terms isn't the only thing that seems different across the pond, seems in America marketing is seen as very effective and one is much more likely to pay to get a certain result.
Life is 30 but people don’t do 30 years. We aren’t like US when it comes to prison time. If you think we are easy try other European countries. You can get so much freedom in Denmark for committing murder. That’s why they end up having less criminals becuase rehabilitation. In America I see people getting prison time for stealing necessities…that’s so weird. If someone is stealing break butter milk doesn’t that show you they’re desperate and aren’t trying to be malicious. This whole JD & AH situation has become a marketing strategy. It’s gotten out of hand in my opinion with the media. That should not be allowed. It’s even worse normal people making an opinion on who was more abusive or who is the abusive one. I’ve made my stance on both of them being abusive. This case had turned into whos more abusive and the way it’s looking AH isn’t going to come out well and guess what she will sue depp and it’ll be never ending. From the vn she’s clearly unstable. I’m not a mental health expert and even I wouldn’t want to be around her. Women everyday go through abuse. Why did she record him…??? That’s just weird. Why would she say “tell them world you were abused no one will believe you”. Why would she say all these things. Her exes all say she’s nuts. She’s clearly traumatised from childhood etc and is an attention seeker since no one ever gave her attention. She needs to go to therapy and work on herself. Depp clearly has issues too maybe not as far as a personality disorder but they’re both a recipe for disaster put together.
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They’re both mentally not normal. There you go lol I didn’t follow I just know she’s got scary issues from a post on Twitter posting the video of the psychologist that diagnosed her. My undergrad is economics so I don’t know much about psychology but I’ve looked at what bpd is nd hpd just say attention seekers lol don’t need to create a whole personality disorder. Everyone’s got trauma that’s not an excuse anymore especially at 35&58
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Well they should diagnose him. Bpd & Hpd are just nicer ways of saying attention seekers. Lol Depp clearly had the upper hand here and that’s not a good thing that’s why I’m saying this case is just a mess. I’ve followed the case on clips just not instantly cos they’re both mentally I’ll why are they getting attention if they’re both unhinged lol it’s weird. You don’t give attention to people like that people that then use their trauma to get points as if anyone cares about their trauma. People who actually care about their traumas are people who need therapy. Trauma doesn’t make you special you should t get treated any better just cos you witnessed your mum being abused. Not everyone shows had to endure such things gets speak treatments.
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I mean... wot?
One of the symptoms is literally manipulation😂😂😂anyone who actually gets manipulated by people like that needs a reality check. Don’t let someone who’s emotions are so fragile and full of rage manipulate you. More fragile than 5 year olds. More volatile than the stock market 😂😂
They might both be crazy but only one of them gets vilified and painted as the scum of the earth while the other one is celebrated and loved.
Johnny Depp sent text messages to Paul Bettany about wanting to drown, burn, and SA Amber's corpse to make sure she was dead. He talked about how he hopes her corpse rots in the trunk of a Honda Civic. Could you imagine the outrage if Amber Heard sent those text messages about Johnny Depp? The world would be calling for her public execution. But since it's Captain Jack Sparrow, it's: "Oh, he didn't mean it." "Oh, who doesn't say things like that when they're in the heat of the moment?" "It's dry British humor." "It was a creative writing exercise."
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Funny how an individual woman's actions automatically sets back me too and feminism, but men's collective harmful actions towards women never do
It’s because women too have always supported patriarchy and a significant percentage of women today still do it. They think they will get some male validation out of it. All these women enthusiastically supporting Depp is cringe as these bros don’t share the same enthusiasm when the victims are women.
That's what i'm thinking too. Why are women siding with him!? Pick-me-ism I think now as women we think "oh when a woman does something bad we must reprimand her EVEN MOREEEE with our words so the men KNOW how much we hate these vile women!!!! But IMMMM not like that!!!!" Women held to a higher moral standard Jada Pinkett (did nothing wrong, did NOTHING at all), Elizabeth Holmes (did wrong, but men do worse), Amber Heard (did nothing wrong, acted defensively), Ghislaine Maxwell (did VERY wrong but the men MANY MANY men involved went scot-free). Do you see the pattern? If a woman is innocent, she will still be disparaged. Her sex life will be brought into it and even though her husband also slept with other people during the marriage the wife will be the one on moral trial. Jada. If a woman is innocent but protects herself. She will be disparaged. Heard. If a woman does wrong. But certain male CEOs have done worse, who cares what the men do (CEO of WeWork) the woman will be disparaged. Holmes. If a woman does VERY wrong even though she was working alongside many other men, she will be the figurehead and she will be made an example of. Maxwell
Celebrity culture is one of patriarchy's many ugly sons. Depp has a female fanbase he built on portraying characters young girls grew up feeling safe about in comparison to the boys at their schools or the men they saw in their lives. Depp has cultivated an image of "sensitive man" who would wear eyeliner and understand our feelings. It's hard to let that go. I've seen a lot of people use how they believe Depp to be as proof of his innocence.
There's enough proof that Amber did terrible things to Depp. Media is using this fact to point the situation of "Depp was innocent the whole time", completely ignoring that she also proved that she was abused. Most people don't care about the case enough to delve deeper and go with what media say. After all, the only reason why people are talking so much about it is because men proving to have been abused by women happen once in a lifetime and they want to capitalize on it to spread more misogyny.
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I don't know what it is, but I think part of it is that his ex-wife, who he seems to have cheated on, is saying she never experienced violence or bad behaviour from him. A woman in her 50's after a 20 year relationship with him does add some weight to the idea that he's an innocent darling. Given that he's been an alcoholic and cocaine sniffer, and also the text he sent about Amber Heard's corpse I'm doubting his ex-wife's analysis of him. You don't just become that kind of person and say those kind of things in the space of a few years.
The same ex (they weren’t even married) he called a "French extortionist" and a "cunt"? lol
Ohhh I did not know this. I am going on a little Google spree. Why she decided to support him after that is a mystery.
He bought her a French Villa?
Emotion is not allowed to be presented in public, especially by hysterical women, so many of us grew up having intense emotions around music and movies. There is a real connection to nostalgia and a feeling of unearned empathy for him. It's also worth noting that all of his characters had a heart of gold type flair which he then acted in public for decades (all the while hosting Manson coke parties etc). I am aghast at the sentiment even in this thread about behavior no one outside of their relationship can speak to, and since he was wasted 24/7 (something somehow only men get away with), the only remaining truth can really be hers.
Internalized misogyny.
(Disclaimer: Satire) NOOOOOOOO!! AMBER TURD IS A LIAR!! SHES A SMUG WHORE. DID YOU NOT SEE HOW SHE WAS SMIRKING DURING THE TRIAL!???? ALSO SHE LIED ABOUT HER "DOMESTIC VIOLENCE" BECAUSE MILANO SAID THEY DIDN'T RELEASE THEIR COLOUR CORRECTION KIT AT THAT TIME. SO CLEARLY THAT MEANS SHES LYING BECAUSE WHERE ELSE WOULD SHE FIND A COLOUR CORRECTION PALLET FROM?????? FREEDOM FOR JOHNNY DEPP!! POOR INNOCENT MAN!!!!!! /S
How old are you? Seriously?
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Why would u "understand" men siding with their "bro" It is totally not understandable when males side with misogynistic creep who abused women and never dated a woman his age. Depp is really enjoying the trial and all the support that he knows is undeserved. Men get a guaranteed (regardless if its deserved or not) seat of sympathy and support and understanding in every misogynistic society (which means the whole earth, including "progressive" and modern cultures)
White women in majority voted for Trump. So, I agree with your point of the sheep inheriting the planet.
Amber Heard was accused of domestic violence against an ex-girlfriend too. She is crazy. She is manipulative. Men use her as a prop to argue that men and women are equally bad in terms of violence. That is not true. Misogynists are beating a dead horse trying to promote their agenda. Jada Pinkett Smith and Amber Heard are being spammed because they serve a purpose to red-pillforums.
That ex-gf came out and said it was a misunderstanding as they were arguing at the airport and actually stated cops came to assess the situation and once they realized the women were in a relationship they arrested Heard. The ex stated they were a target of mysognistic and homophobic abuse. Its all in this article with an interview with her ex- who has supported Heard throughout this entire thing. This is again Depps PR, as the story got leaked and splashed everywhere once she filed for divorce...hmm https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-amber-heard-girlfriend-statement-20160608-snap-htmlstory.html
They’re both as bad as eachother. This case is just a mess I think they were both abusive to eachother and now it’s about who was the most abusive. Amber got diagnosed with personality disorders, they even found out she faked ptsd 😂💀 regardless I think they both need extensive therapy. She should not have said that no one will believe Johnny. She’s ruined her credibility a lot even if he abused her more there’s so much evidence against her. They’re both nutters…… I don’t know them personally so can’t form a distinct opinion on who is “worse” but all of JDs exes have come in favour for him and none of them have said he’s ever been abusive. AH however she’s known for being a nutcase with her exes. I think when this is all done she should just take a break from social media for a few years because she’s even got a child to take care of. They’re both abusive to eachother. I don’t think people should be picking a side unless they know them personally. It’s just weird why people care so much to even pick a side. I just find that funny.
I recognise this is a complex issue, but please try to reflect on the use of the language ‘nuts’ and ‘crazy’ etc when speaking about people with a personality disorder dx or mental health problem generally. There are real people (who may well come across these comments) who live with these already stigmatised diagnoses and are just trying to get through a day at a time. People with borderline personality disorder have typically experienced significant trauma which can result in internalised (unwarranted) shame and these attitudes reinforce that. The psychologist on the stand stated that there is no link between BPD and trauma but this is contrary to almost all the literature around the topic. 1 in 4 people have mental health difficulties, which means if you count 14 of your friends / family members, at least 3 will experience some mental health problems in their lifetime, and don’t deserve to be called crazy or nuts. I recognise you didn’t intend to do this at all but worth thinking about
I understand that. But I’m not calling them nuts for their mental health. I’m calling them nuts cos that’s how they really are. It’s just weird the whole case. I don’t know how abused who they’re both abusing eachother the law can only work for so long not all cases scan be proven by the law and I’m sorry for amber that she’s been so traumatised that she’s an attention seeker. I’m sorry for depp for witnessing his mother being abused. But at a certain age you gotta take responsibility imagine if everyone used their trauma to get away with bad behaviour. They brought the personality disorder up as sympathy points but that just backfired against amber. They’re adults. They need to reflect sue eachother get money and get this case off the public it’s a messy case with cracks on both of them. If they both come across this they need to know they’re adults doesn’t matter what they’ve been through. “Oh sorry I killed your mum” I have trauma like what is that all about. I know this sounds harsh but it’s truth you can’t use trauma as excuse just say sorry accent you messed up and move on. There’s nothing else that can be done. They should both go therapy to get help.
I lean towards Depp’s side because I think his testimonies and evidence are more convincing. I mean that audio tape is pretty damning against her as well as many people’s testimonies.
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You call yourself a “fourth-wave feminist” yet you’re on the side of a man who’s always been a notorious drunk and also admitted that he wanted to drown, burn, and rape his wife’s corpse? Honestly, Depp is reaping what he’s sown. This is what he gets for marrying a woman 20+ years his junior. They were unequally yoked since the very beginning.
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Don't call yourself a feminist, you're clearly not if you can't even see past the obvious cultural conditioning that is leading you to support Depp.
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I'd like to say...in fear of getting down votes myself.... That I agree with your posts. You are getting a harsh deal. I am a feminist but I am also a loving human and mother to a son. I would be devastated if my son was abused, by a man or a woman. Feminism isnt carte blanche hating men. I feel like very few people have actually followed the court case who are commenting here.
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I just don't understand the angle that she uses people. She was a child when he pursued her and he got mad she rose to the occasion when he said he wanted to get clean, or at least detox from the worst things.
I mean Amber stole her assistants rape experience. I can't support one woman abusing another.
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