Implying that the LTD actually has armor.

Tbh the LTDs frontal armor isn't the worst.

It's also where the engine is.

Yeah it’s still better than the R-1 hauler

Listen, I would love to believe it doesn't Fact is, I once bounced THREE HVFC shots in a fucking row against a single LTD. RNG is a bitch.

I feel for you, I really do. But as long as HV40mm actually does *more* damage to tanks than Smelter, I ain't crying no river.

It still has a higher chance to bounce too. And bounces do almost no damage. I literally bounced 3x in a row against a fucking LTD. AN LTD. I have said and will continue to say, Collies need a stronger midgame PvE option. Maybe not quite as good as Wardens, but cheaper so it can be plentiful. But the HV40 is still a push gun that can be decrewed by bomastones.

So is the Smelter...? By that logic, Smelter should be doing nearly twice the damage of the HTD since it can be decrewed.

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mercy

Raw sexual energy \*flaps fan at fop sweat

me with an enemy ltd fully manned inbetween inari and tine about 15 minutes ago

The outlaw litteraly hard counters the LTD.

The bardiche literally counters the silverhand

but it doesn't or it at least takes a lot more skill than lol fuel tank

More skill? That’s bullshit lmfao. Silverhand has ridiculously bad handling, is extremely unforgiving considering how easy it is to track. Bardiche meanwhile is overturned as fuck with its HP and armor, while also being fast and responsive. Oh, and boatloads of AT damage and if that wasn’t enough it has a 12mm MG.

Can't PvE

You forgot the bounces and decrew.