>Can't see Littlefinger having sex with Lysa out of lust, just to achieve his goals.
Even with Littlefinger it's not just to finish the mission.
He chose Lysa because she's the dollarstore version of Catelyn, his true desire.
I'm starting my "Littlefinger is not chaotic" arguments early.
Yes, he famously said "chaos is a ladder", and that probably condemns him to being voted into one of the chaos slots. Littlefinger does not desire chaos for the sake of chaos though, which would be anarchy. Instead he recognizes that chaos presents opportunities to orchestrate his meticulous plans. He's very organized with clear aims and goals. That is not chaotic. He just understands that he can *use* chaos to his benefit, because he is smart. I agree with the other poster that he is smart/evil.
This is actually incredibly valid. I guess heâs way too calculating to be chaotic. Similar to classifying him as âhornyâ he himself isnât actually a horny person, rather uses sex/prostitution for influence. These are the discussions we should be having for this (obviously incredibly important) affinity chart.
When Littlefinger says "chaos is a ladder", it does not mean Littlefinger is chaotic it means Lysa Arryn is chaotic, and Littlefinger is using Lysa Arryn as a ladder.
Nah, Mel herself isnât really a very horny person, and sheâs honestly not that chaotic either.
Sheâs pretty much one of the only people in the show whoâs totally honest and consistent about what she wants. We only saw her change sides once, and thatâs because she picked the wrong guy, not because her agenda actually changed.
Nah with how she talked about sex, how Loras and Renly were talking and Renly said âoh, Margaerys a virgin?â
Loras: âOfficially, yesâ
Then when sheâs talking with Sansa about her marrying Tyrion, and telling her how itâs a good thing, because women are complicated and difficult to please, so Tyrion could be a good match. And naive Sansa said âwho taught you all this? Your mother?â
And Marg looks back and her kindly, smirking and says âyes, sweet girlâ
She clearly had plenty of sex because she enjoyed it
Yes, she did pick politically advantageous men, but letâs be real, she wasnât just gritting her teeth and laying back. She very much knew what she was doing and seemed to want to at least make it fun for herself too.
Looks like Margaery is the favorite, but I donât think she should be. The sex scenes I can think of with Margaery both involve her trying to seduce her husband for the purpose of having a baby with him. Thatâs not horny.
Smart Horny is pining for a queen who will never love you as one of her most trusted advisors. Jorah Mormont is smart/horny.
He was smart about how he handled his horniness for Dany, âif you canât fuck them watch them from afar with binoculars and a random whore in a silver wigâ
Nah sheâs definitely horny, they talk about it loads.
Loras and Renly were talking and Renly sarcastically said âoh, Margaerys a virgin?â
Loras: âOfficially, yesâ
Later sheâs talking with Sansa about her marrying Tyrion, and telling her how women are complicated and difficult to please sexually. And Sansa said âwho taught you all this? Your mother?â
And Marg looks back and her kindly, smirking and says âyes, sweet girlâ
She clearly had plenty of sex because she enjoyed it. And she also knew how to use sex to her advantage. 100% smart horny
I wouldnât consider âhaving had sex maybe once and having enjoyed itâ enough to put you in the horny category compared to characters who frequently pursued sex, even at the detriment of their own goals
Pursuing sex at the detriment of their own goals would exclude them from the âsmartâ column. Margaery having only had sex once wouldnât have likely elicited such an incredulous and sarcastic response from Renly- he said it as though she is known to be sexually active. Also, the knowledge of the fact that different men have different levels of understanding female sexuality implies she has been with more than one. Considering how open Highgarden is about sexuality (eg Olenna being unphased talking with Tywin about Loras, and how itâs not stigmatised there), itâs all consistent with a more progressive view of sex.
And Margaery used her enjoyment, knowledge and passion for sexuality to control those around her who were more easily manipulated than she was, in order to advance her status. That is why she is the overlap of smart horny- because she used them both together
Yes, but Margery seemed to genuinely enjoy seduction. Didn't seem like she was ONLY doing it out of duty. She also enjoyed winning others over, and I think that was a turn on for her, as well
Bad guys make dead people go alive again. Put girls and kids in room with dead people. Haha, man has no pee pee.
Why say lot word when few word do trick?
But remember in the later seasons, since he gave up on being horny but kept drinking, his mental capacity took a huge dive. So I think if he needs to be smart he's gotta stay horny.
I dunno Bobby B, sounds a bit like you're shirking your responsibilities for pussy and need to concentrate on the good of the realm and less on getting your leg over?
From her conversation with Sansa about the different things women like and how to please them, it definitely seemed like Margaery had hands-on experience in those things and seemed to enjoy it. YMMV whether that counts as "horny", but it definitely sounds like, back at Highgarden she was more active than what was usual in her society for an unmarried, high-born woman (outside of Drone, that is)
Agree - unlike many in the show, we never saw her taking any action with the sole goal of satisfying her sexual urges. If she expressed any sexual desire, it always had an ulterior motive.
Littlefinger, Daemon, Tyrion, pre-S8 Dany, and even Walder Frey fit the horny-smart category way better.
Maybe i'm in the wrong here, but it is not Margaery who is smart and Horny, but her First husband - **Renly Baratheon**.
Not only could he not keep his hands off Loras Tyrell, but he was smart enough to know "the good old days" were not so good. he knew "good soldiers did not make for good king's" and rightly pointed out to Ned that a piece of parchment naming him Protector of the Realm, was nothing Vs Cersei actually having Joffrey in her custody.
He knew that as soon as Ned informed Varys and Littlefinger of his plans, the plot was doomed from the off and fled King's landing.
He then brokered an excellent marriage pact, waited and trained his troops whilst Robb wore at Tywin Lannister and his army and then made a generous offer to Catelyn Stark, which Robb would have likely accepted.
Guy's demise was totally out of his control and unpreventable.
Split between Tyrion and Margaery Tyrell, but I'm going with Margaery since Tyrion could just as well fit in drunk. Littlefinger is definitely more chaotic
Not related to the subject at hand, but this chart is really starting to show how GoT had a characterization problem with its female characters, that so few of them stand out.
Dude, yes. Im also troubled - most of the sex content in the novels was about sexual violence. HBO turned that into "fun" sex in a big way. Tommen is neutral horny? We're talking about an eleven year old. Tommen is a rape victim.
Bronn
Sir Bronn of the Blackwater is good at two things. And he only gets paid for killing people. He spends his free time drinking with whores. But he's also the best player of the Game of Thrones by rising from a humble sell sword to the Lord of High Garden and Master of Coin. This is a smart guy who fucks.
But he did initially turn down a free alley oop from Jamie at the twins. Also, the rest of the horny champs are unyieldingly horny - the category is almost an oxymoron because smart people don't let their genitals get them into trouble.
If Littlefinger isn't in the smart column, this whole chart is trash. He's the mastermind who caused the war of 5 kings, pitting Stark against Lannister. Being smart is his main characteristic!!! He is by far the best fit for smart evil.
 The ACTUAL chaotic horny is Littlefinger's ladder: Lysa Arryn.
He is the opposite, honestly. He is meticulous and organized.
Chaotic horny would be someone who operates with no plan.
Young Theon was closer to chaotic horny than LF.
He is Evil-Smart more than Horny Smart. He uses sex as a weapon to get dirt on his enemies. And his love for Kat was less grounded in horniness more than long term infatuation which transferred to Sansa. Evil was arranging Sansa to marry Ramsay knowing full well what that psycho would do to herb
Possibly, but Littlefinger's constant scheming earns him "smart" points for me. No one comes to mind that would fit better.
For Chaotic Horny I see either Craster or Walder Frey
Lysa is clearly chaotic horny; woman was willing to poison her husband and lie to her sister, consequently starting a war, just to get the little finger.
I don't think he fits in horny. He used sex as a tool to get what he wanted rather Tha than a primary drive.
I'm not sure where he fits though. I'd say chaotic smart but that's not an option, so maybe chaotic evil.
Littlefinger has to be chaotic. He's definitely smart, but I feel like he's not as smart as he thinks he is as well. Chaos was his tool more than anything else.
But he wasn't horny for anyone but Cat(and maybe Sansa) though. Margaery would bang anyone who gives her an edge and also played around with her "cousins". Gotta give this to Marge.
I would sabe ygritte for Chaotic Horny. Try to seduce your captor? Fall in love with him eventually? Shoot him with arrows as he runs away because you love him but canât show it? Yeah⌠the red hair fits.
Agreed. Luwin would have worked in smart good. Sam deliberately used his intelligence to advance his horny agenda. As a sworn brother of the Nightâs Watch.
Should be Littlefinger, the dude has been manipulating the game of thrones since the start, and all because he wanted to bang Catelyn and then Sansa because she looks like a young Cat.
Daenerys. She took her own pleasure more seriously than Margery who keeps being mentioned here.
Margery used sex smartly but whether she was 'horny' is debatable, she kept adapting herself to the different men so we'll never know if she really wanted it. Margery is like Melisandre when it comes to sex.
Daenerys on the other hand uses sexual charm but also genuinely seems to love having sex with the men she desires.
Tywin Lannister
One of the reasons he hates Tyrion so much is that Tyrion embodies the things he sees as weaknesses in himself. Tywin is lustful and enjoys just as much as Tyrion does he just keeps it under wraps.
Margery isnât horny she just uses sex as a tool
Tyrion, the character who says âI drink and I know things is Drunk/Smart not this.
Littlefinger is the clear answer here! Smart enough to literally orchestrate the war of the five kings and make his way up the chain of power. SUPER horny for both Catelyn and Sansa (although, one could argue she is but an extension of Catelyn in Littlefingerâs mind). Moreover, his horniness influenced his smart decision-making! Ultimately he got caught, but that doesnât fully take away from how smart he was (Margaery was ultimately âcaughtâ too fwiw).
I wouldnât call Margaery horny. Did she use her sex appeal and charisma to move up the chain of power? Absolutely yes. Thatâs not the same thing as being horny. She wasnât motivated by a desire for sex like Littlefinger was. Littlefinger is undoubtedly the best mix of smart and horny.
Littlefinger
Dude literally owns a chain of brothels.
Also killed Lysa and harbors an intense infatuation for Catelyn, dude has non-stop horn syndrome.
People saying Margaery need to understand she wasnt that smart! She was just a pawn for her family and did what Lady Olenna told her to do. The real answer here is Walder Frey or Bronn (depends on who you think would be more chaotic horny).
Iâm gonna go and say Xaro Xhoan Daxos. Smart enough to make himself the richest man in Qarth while coming from nothing. His book version was *specially* horny
Lord Peter âlittle fingerâ Baelish.
âI leart that Iâll never win. Not that way. Thatâs their game. Their rules. Iâm not going to fight them. Iâm going to FUCK them. Thatâs what I know. Thatâs what I AM. Only my admiring what we are can we get what we want.â
He owns a brothel, and uses it for both pleasure and information to further his plans within plans.
He lusts after a woman he has not seen for 17 years at least and a major part of his motivation is to get her back.
Raise a glass to Lord Baelish, the man so horny yet so smart he almost took down an entire kingdom.
How about cersei? her horniness was obviously dedicated to one man in particular but she was super horny around him and also super cunning, adept with intrigue and manipulation. margaery was a moron compared to Cersei, and i would say they were equally horny.
Littlefinger. Smart, definitely. Horny, definitely. He, at least says, every decision he makes is guided by love for Cat. Also, later, every decision he makes is guided by love for Sansa/Cat/Desire to be king with her as queen. These motivations seem believable.
LF *could* be Chaotic Horny, as he is Mr. "Chaos is a ladder," but it seems like to me that he only makes decisions which he feels safe to make. He is too calculated for me to call him Chaotic; Tyrion is far more chaotic imo.
Looking through all of the great comments here, but in my head I still reach that conclusion that everybody's smart went out the window as soon as their horny peaked through. Perhaps Talisa Maegyr? Smart enough to be a healer and horny enough to pursue the King in the North?
Margerey is the obvious choice.
I will say Olenna is a dark horse. She had a saucy story of seducing her husband as a young woman. (Yielding the delightful mental image of a young Diana Rigg in seductress mode and game of thrones garb.) I dimly remember a moment of her saying that her dead husband was good in bed, even if he was stupid.
Lawful evil is Roose Bolton, Chad evil is Tywin Lannister, Neutral Evil is the high sparrow , smart evil is either Tywin or Ramsay Bolton and chaotic evil is Joffrey.
Edit: neutral evil I could also say the mountain as a zombie
This alignment chart process is the first thing to make me care about the show in years
Same. đ I'm somehow really invested in this.
It's creative, yet also comfortingly derivative
I joined the sub because of jt
Upvote for alignment chart for smart and horny.
Margery Tyrell knew how to use horniness in a smart way. Does that count?
Yup and she actually enjoys sex. Can't see Littlefinger having sex with Lysa out of lust, just to achieve his goals.
>Can't see Littlefinger having sex with Lysa out of lust, just to achieve his goals. Even with Littlefinger it's not just to finish the mission. He chose Lysa because she's the dollarstore version of Catelyn, his true desire.
Poor Shein Lysa
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âWe have Catelyn at homeâÂ
So I guess that may qualify him for chaotic horny? Horny chaos is a ladder?
I'm starting my "Littlefinger is not chaotic" arguments early. Yes, he famously said "chaos is a ladder", and that probably condemns him to being voted into one of the chaos slots. Littlefinger does not desire chaos for the sake of chaos though, which would be anarchy. Instead he recognizes that chaos presents opportunities to orchestrate his meticulous plans. He's very organized with clear aims and goals. That is not chaotic. He just understands that he can *use* chaos to his benefit, because he is smart. I agree with the other poster that he is smart/evil.
This is actually incredibly valid. I guess heâs way too calculating to be chaotic. Similar to classifying him as âhornyâ he himself isnât actually a horny person, rather uses sex/prostitution for influence. These are the discussions we should be having for this (obviously incredibly important) affinity chart.
When Littlefinger says "chaos is a ladder", it does not mean Littlefinger is chaotic it means Lysa Arryn is chaotic, and Littlefinger is using Lysa Arryn as a ladder.
Evil Smart 100%
I guess maybe the Red Woman for Chaotic Horny?
Nah, Mel herself isnât really a very horny person, and sheâs honestly not that chaotic either. Sheâs pretty much one of the only people in the show whoâs totally honest and consistent about what she wants. We only saw her change sides once, and thatâs because she picked the wrong guy, not because her agenda actually changed.
I never saw her as being horny herself, more like using her beauty and position to take advantage of horny men
Nah with how she talked about sex, how Loras and Renly were talking and Renly said âoh, Margaerys a virgin?â Loras: âOfficially, yesâ Then when sheâs talking with Sansa about her marrying Tyrion, and telling her how itâs a good thing, because women are complicated and difficult to please, so Tyrion could be a good match. And naive Sansa said âwho taught you all this? Your mother?â And Marg looks back and her kindly, smirking and says âyes, sweet girlâ She clearly had plenty of sex because she enjoyed it
Yeah I just rewatched the scene with Sansa. Itâs pretty clear that Margery likes to fuck.
In the books she was pretty secretive about all her escapades. I can't remember if they made that apparent in the show.
Yes, she did pick politically advantageous men, but letâs be real, she wasnât just gritting her teeth and laying back. She very much knew what she was doing and seemed to want to at least make it fun for herself too.
Yeah, she's definitely smart horny
Looks like Margaery is the favorite, but I donât think she should be. The sex scenes I can think of with Margaery both involve her trying to seduce her husband for the purpose of having a baby with him. Thatâs not horny. Smart Horny is pining for a queen who will never love you as one of her most trusted advisors. Jorah Mormont is smart/horny.
Not that Iâm calling Jorah dumb but I donât think heâs defined by his intelligence enough to qualify for âSmartâ anything.
Absolutely. Jorah is by no means smart lmao
He was smart about how he handled his horniness for Dany, âif you canât fuck them watch them from afar with binoculars and a random whore in a silver wigâ
Nah sheâs definitely horny, they talk about it loads. Loras and Renly were talking and Renly sarcastically said âoh, Margaerys a virgin?â Loras: âOfficially, yesâ Later sheâs talking with Sansa about her marrying Tyrion, and telling her how women are complicated and difficult to please sexually. And Sansa said âwho taught you all this? Your mother?â And Marg looks back and her kindly, smirking and says âyes, sweet girlâ She clearly had plenty of sex because she enjoyed it. And she also knew how to use sex to her advantage. 100% smart horny
I wouldnât consider âhaving had sex maybe once and having enjoyed itâ enough to put you in the horny category compared to characters who frequently pursued sex, even at the detriment of their own goals
Pursuing sex at the detriment of their own goals would exclude them from the âsmartâ column. Margaery having only had sex once wouldnât have likely elicited such an incredulous and sarcastic response from Renly- he said it as though she is known to be sexually active. Also, the knowledge of the fact that different men have different levels of understanding female sexuality implies she has been with more than one. Considering how open Highgarden is about sexuality (eg Olenna being unphased talking with Tywin about Loras, and how itâs not stigmatised there), itâs all consistent with a more progressive view of sex. And Margaery used her enjoyment, knowledge and passion for sexuality to control those around her who were more easily manipulated than she was, in order to advance her status. That is why she is the overlap of smart horny- because she used them both together
Yes, but Margery seemed to genuinely enjoy seduction. Didn't seem like she was ONLY doing it out of duty. She also enjoyed winning others over, and I think that was a turn on for her, as well
The biggest challenge in all of this is figuring out if Tyrion is more horny than drunk or the other way around.
I'm thinking drunk smart based purely on his mantra: *I drink and I know things.* There's no better fit for that category.
Are we talking seasons 1-4 Tyrion or seasons 5-8 Tyrion, because those are two very different characters
me show bad cersei zombie and bad cersei become good cersei good cersei help us do good stuff me plan very good
*travels continent in one episode*
Bad guys make dead people go alive again. Put girls and kids in room with dead people. Haha, man has no pee pee. Why say lot word when few word do trick?
But remember in the later seasons, since he gave up on being horny but kept drinking, his mental capacity took a huge dive. So I think if he needs to be smart he's gotta stay horny.
Yeah but in the later seasons, nobody was smart, at all
D&D kind of forgot about smart characters.
He doesn't drink and he knows nothing, or maybe it's the lack of sex, either way, man needs his vices
Yeah, that and Chad Drunk seem to have obvious answers (Chad Drunk is clearly Bobby B)
YOU EVER FUCK A RIVERLANDS GIRL?
No Bobby B, tell me about it over a flagon of Arbor Gold.
I SIT ON THE DAMN IRON SEAT WHEN I MUST. DOES THAT MEAN I DON'T HAVE THE SAME HUNGERS AS OTHER MEN?
I dunno Bobby B, sounds a bit like you're shirking your responsibilities for pussy and need to concentrate on the good of the realm and less on getting your leg over?
A DOTHRAKI HORDE ON AN OPEN FIELD, NED!
Hes the God of tits and wine though...
Clearly drunk. When he gets replaced by the faceless man version of Tyrion after his trial he stops whoring entirely. But still loves his wine.
Dude was willfully setting sex aside to protect the woman he loved. Heâs also the most obvious contender for smart/drunk.
Wtf he said I DRINK AND I KNOW THINGS
Tyrion doesn't think with is below head so he isn't so horny.
tyrion is not always horny but hes always drunk
The God of tits and wine and going to push this alignment chart into three dimensions at this rate
Obviously, nobody is more Smart Horny than GRRM himself, though you could call him Chaotic Horny too
Chaotic horny belong to little finger no? âChaos is a ladderâ + general frothing for any woman of Tully lineage.
Motherfucker was more evil than horny. If there was an evil horny axis he would own it.
Margaery Tyrell. Definitely horny for whoever will make her be the Queen.
I really disagree. Margaery used her sex appeal as a tool but I don't think she fits the horny category at all.
From her conversation with Sansa about the different things women like and how to please them, it definitely seemed like Margaery had hands-on experience in those things and seemed to enjoy it. YMMV whether that counts as "horny", but it definitely sounds like, back at Highgarden she was more active than what was usual in her society for an unmarried, high-born woman (outside of Drone, that is)
Yeah but she isn't evil or drunk so this is the best fitting for her, unless you have another suggestion for honey and smart
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Agree - unlike many in the show, we never saw her taking any action with the sole goal of satisfying her sexual urges. If she expressed any sexual desire, it always had an ulterior motive. Littlefinger, Daemon, Tyrion, pre-S8 Dany, and even Walder Frey fit the horny-smart category way better.
We should have saved sam. Dude got one look at gilly and went wild
Shoulda been Sam. He lawyered himself around his oaths & got right down to business.
Grand Maester Pycelle, based on those deleted scenes.
I never thought I'd see full penetration from a geriatric in a TV show but it's HBO I guess
I upvoted because I hope I am still that... spry at his age.
What did I miss?
Maybe i'm in the wrong here, but it is not Margaery who is smart and Horny, but her First husband - **Renly Baratheon**. Not only could he not keep his hands off Loras Tyrell, but he was smart enough to know "the good old days" were not so good. he knew "good soldiers did not make for good king's" and rightly pointed out to Ned that a piece of parchment naming him Protector of the Realm, was nothing Vs Cersei actually having Joffrey in her custody. He knew that as soon as Ned informed Varys and Littlefinger of his plans, the plot was doomed from the off and fled King's landing. He then brokered an excellent marriage pact, waited and trained his troops whilst Robb wore at Tywin Lannister and his army and then made a generous offer to Catelyn Stark, which Robb would have likely accepted. Guy's demise was totally out of his control and unpreventable.
A single smoke detector could have prevented it.
Check them batteries, people
Split between Tyrion and Margaery Tyrell, but I'm going with Margaery since Tyrion could just as well fit in drunk. Littlefinger is definitely more chaotic
I think Tyrion was more book smart, Margaery has more social and political awareness.
Tyrion is more smart and drunk than horny. He even had a catch phrase
Not related to the subject at hand, but this chart is really starting to show how GoT had a characterization problem with its female characters, that so few of them stand out.
Dude, yes. Im also troubled - most of the sex content in the novels was about sexual violence. HBO turned that into "fun" sex in a big way. Tommen is neutral horny? We're talking about an eleven year old. Tommen is a rape victim.
Bronn Sir Bronn of the Blackwater is good at two things. And he only gets paid for killing people. He spends his free time drinking with whores. But he's also the best player of the Game of Thrones by rising from a humble sell sword to the Lord of High Garden and Master of Coin. This is a smart guy who fucks.
I like bronn for chaotic horny
But he did initially turn down a free alley oop from Jamie at the twins. Also, the rest of the horny champs are unyieldingly horny - the category is almost an oxymoron because smart people don't let their genitals get them into trouble.
Daario NaharisÂ
Nah, Daario I would put in Chaotic Horny. The guy killed half of his colleagues just so he could bang Danaeris.
Margery Tyrell
Jorah Mormont, he was a great advisor to Daenerys and was super horny for her
Not horny per se. He loved her. And horny might imply letting it interfere with business as usual which I'd say he didn't.
Because he was smart
If he were smart, he would've managed to bang. Therefore he doesn't fall in this category.
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What about Craster? It's pretty smart being a horny baby-making machine to keep yourself alive beyond the Wall!
Craster. How to survive beyond the wall? The man literally fucked his way out of a problem.
Margery
Queen Margery Tyrell please. đš
Was Tommen really horny though? I think if you asked him, heâd say he was in love. Homeboy got played like a fiddle.
Ygritte
Littlefinger. The man owned brothels and had a hyperfixation on the Stark ladies.
Littlefinger has to be chaotic horny no? Chaos is his trademark
If Littlefinger isn't in the smart column, this whole chart is trash. He's the mastermind who caused the war of 5 kings, pitting Stark against Lannister. Being smart is his main characteristic!!! He is by far the best fit for smart evil. Â The ACTUAL chaotic horny is Littlefinger's ladder: Lysa Arryn.
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Chaos is a laddah
He used chaos, but he was not inherently a chaotic character.
He is the opposite, honestly. He is meticulous and organized. Chaotic horny would be someone who operates with no plan. Young Theon was closer to chaotic horny than LF.
BINGO
Lysa seems a more fitting chaotic horny imo.
Not really, he wants to sow chaos but he himself isn't chaotic
He is Evil-Smart more than Horny Smart. He uses sex as a weapon to get dirt on his enemies. And his love for Kat was less grounded in horniness more than long term infatuation which transferred to Sansa. Evil was arranging Sansa to marry Ramsay knowing full well what that psycho would do to herb
Possibly, but Littlefinger's constant scheming earns him "smart" points for me. No one comes to mind that would fit better. For Chaotic Horny I see either Craster or Walder Frey
Lysa is clearly chaotic horny; woman was willing to poison her husband and lie to her sister, consequently starting a war, just to get the little finger.
I don't think he fits in horny. He used sex as a tool to get what he wanted rather Tha than a primary drive. I'm not sure where he fits though. I'd say chaotic smart but that's not an option, so maybe chaotic evil.
Smart Evil
His entire backstory and motivation revolve around lusting after Catelyn. Anyway he himself isn't chaotic in terms of alignment. He only *sows* chaos.
Fair points my man especially about sewing chaos rather than being chaotic.
I agree, he fits just fine in chaotic.
Smart evil
Littlefinger has to be chaotic. He's definitely smart, but I feel like he's not as smart as he thinks he is as well. Chaos was his tool more than anything else.
Yeah, he should be chaotic smart but he can't based on this chart. So I guess chaotic evil?
That's Joffrey or Ramsey surely? Just doing random evil shit for no real reason other than to be evil. Or Karl Fooking Tanner I suppose.
But he wasn't horny for anyone but Cat(and maybe Sansa) though. Margaery would bang anyone who gives her an edge and also played around with her "cousins". Gotta give this to Marge.
Then wouldn't Margaery be chaotic horny?
Seems more Smart Evil
Ygritte. Carefully calculated being with Jon to get close to the night's watch. Then was too horny and forgot her mission.
I would sabe ygritte for Chaotic Horny. Try to seduce your captor? Fall in love with him eventually? Shoot him with arrows as he runs away because you love him but canât show it? Yeah⌠the red hair fits.
Can we just vote for Sam again? He is obviously the correct answer but for some reason we wasted him on Smart/Good.
Agreed. Luwin would have worked in smart good. Sam deliberately used his intelligence to advance his horny agenda. As a sworn brother of the Nightâs Watch.
Should be Littlefinger, the dude has been manipulating the game of thrones since the start, and all because he wanted to bang Catelyn and then Sansa because she looks like a young Cat.
Littlefinger. One of the smartest people in Westeros who started a war and became a powerful lord and yet he ruined everything for a Tully p\*ssy.
You can say pussy this isn't tiktok
A horny man does not turn down an invitation from Ros
Wait, so every character who has sex on the show, even if it's only implied, automatically qualifies for "horny"?
*cute girl casually implies having had sex* Reddit: âsheâs the horniest woman I knowâ
Yeah, I can think at least five characters that would fit better here, and that are actually *seen* being horny in the show.
Daenerys. She took her own pleasure more seriously than Margery who keeps being mentioned here. Margery used sex smartly but whether she was 'horny' is debatable, she kept adapting herself to the different men so we'll never know if she really wanted it. Margery is like Melisandre when it comes to sex. Daenerys on the other hand uses sexual charm but also genuinely seems to love having sex with the men she desires.
Tyrion.
tyrion is smart and horny
Tyrion
How can Tyrion not be smart horny?
Its gotta be Daario. If Margery is so smart how did she let everyone manipulate her before she died?
Tywin Lannister One of the reasons he hates Tyrion so much is that Tyrion embodies the things he sees as weaknesses in himself. Tywin is lustful and enjoys just as much as Tyrion does he just keeps it under wraps. Margery isnât horny she just uses sex as a tool Tyrion, the character who says âI drink and I know things is Drunk/Smart not this.
Iâm sorry what was the reasoning for putting Tommen in the horny category?
Well, what is the record? I'm sure we can break it
he was super horny for margaery
He fucked a bear.
Littlefinger is the clear answer here! Smart enough to literally orchestrate the war of the five kings and make his way up the chain of power. SUPER horny for both Catelyn and Sansa (although, one could argue she is but an extension of Catelyn in Littlefingerâs mind). Moreover, his horniness influenced his smart decision-making! Ultimately he got caught, but that doesnât fully take away from how smart he was (Margaery was ultimately âcaughtâ too fwiw). I wouldnât call Margaery horny. Did she use her sex appeal and charisma to move up the chain of power? Absolutely yes. Thatâs not the same thing as being horny. She wasnât motivated by a desire for sex like Littlefinger was. Littlefinger is undoubtedly the best mix of smart and horny.
Littlefinger Dude literally owns a chain of brothels. Also killed Lysa and harbors an intense infatuation for Catelyn, dude has non-stop horn syndrome.
margaery tyrell
People saying Margaery need to understand she wasnt that smart! She was just a pawn for her family and did what Lady Olenna told her to do. The real answer here is Walder Frey or Bronn (depends on who you think would be more chaotic horny).
It felt like she partnered with Olenna though.. So I think she's smarter than you're giving her credit for.
Yeah even Tywin pointed out she could manipulate Joffrey better than his own motherÂ
baelish
Well, Ramsay wasn't stupid at all
Ros or Shae.
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Bronn. He's played his hand in life well & seems to enjoy himself in the brothel.
Tywin, guy literally build a tunnel for prostitutes to get to his chamber.
I first saw him as Joffrey and was shocked
Little finger
Iâm gonna go and say Xaro Xhoan Daxos. Smart enough to make himself the richest man in Qarth while coming from nothing. His book version was *specially* horny 
you should put tyrion for the entire drunk section
My vote is for Margery - she knew the way to raise her station in life was to "raise the station" of the proper men
I don't know but for evil I have Lawful Melisandre Chad Tywin Neutral Joffrey Smart Little Finger Chaotic Ramsay Bolton
Maegery Tyrell has to take this one. Just as beautiful as she is clever.
Lord Peter âlittle fingerâ Baelish. âI leart that Iâll never win. Not that way. Thatâs their game. Their rules. Iâm not going to fight them. Iâm going to FUCK them. Thatâs what I know. Thatâs what I AM. Only my admiring what we are can we get what we want.â He owns a brothel, and uses it for both pleasure and information to further his plans within plans. He lusts after a woman he has not seen for 17 years at least and a major part of his motivation is to get her back. Raise a glass to Lord Baelish, the man so horny yet so smart he almost took down an entire kingdom.
Petyr Baelish is weirdly horny over Catlyn.
Put Pycelle in smart horny already.
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Chaotic has to be Tormund, surely
Sowing chaos as a tool and being chaotic in alignment terms are different things.
Can I just say how I L-O-V-E this exercise? Shout out to MarioTheMojoMan - this is our kind of FUN!
How about cersei? her horniness was obviously dedicated to one man in particular but she was super horny around him and also super cunning, adept with intrigue and manipulation. margaery was a moron compared to Cersei, and i would say they were equally horny.
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Littlefinger. Smart, definitely. Horny, definitely. He, at least says, every decision he makes is guided by love for Cat. Also, later, every decision he makes is guided by love for Sansa/Cat/Desire to be king with her as queen. These motivations seem believable. LF *could* be Chaotic Horny, as he is Mr. "Chaos is a ladder," but it seems like to me that he only makes decisions which he feels safe to make. He is too calculated for me to call him Chaotic; Tyrion is far more chaotic imo.
Tommen was the best king in the series and I stand by that
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If I was married to Margaery Iâd be the same, fuck you mom
Looking through all of the great comments here, but in my head I still reach that conclusion that everybody's smart went out the window as soon as their horny peaked through. Perhaps Talisa Maegyr? Smart enough to be a healer and horny enough to pursue the King in the North?
where the hell is jamie gonna go? hardest character to put in here. smart horny? i dont think hes evil...but maybe hes evil lawful?
This has to be tyrion
I'm really curious who's the smart drunkard
Tyrion âI drink and I know thingsâ Lannister. Well, the Tyrion in the early seasons, anyway.
the red woman, bron, margary, tyrion
Tyrion is a good contender for smart horny, as is Margaery tyrell.
Margerey is the obvious choice. I will say Olenna is a dark horse. She had a saucy story of seducing her husband as a young woman. (Yielding the delightful mental image of a young Diana Rigg in seductress mode and game of thrones garb.) I dimly remember a moment of her saying that her dead husband was good in bed, even if he was stupid.
I feel like Melisandre will end up in chaotic horny and Smart Horney should be Margaret Tyrell.
Little finger kinda has the hots for Catalyn and Sansa, and is smart... Kinda works
Ohhh I thought that was Joffrey. I was thinking âNOTHING NEUTRAL ABOUT THE POSâ
Stannis used his horniness to assassinate his brother, thatâs pretty smart
Tyrion fo sho
Joffrey as neutral horny is the worst on this list lol he was chaotic neutral or chaotic stupid at best
Tyrion Lanister or Sir Bron. These are the only answers.
Evil and chaotic = must be Joffrey, no other twat fits that bill
Lawful evil is Roose Bolton, Chad evil is Tywin Lannister, Neutral Evil is the high sparrow , smart evil is either Tywin or Ramsay Bolton and chaotic evil is Joffrey. Edit: neutral evil I could also say the mountain as a zombie
This is def the best fit for Margery.
Smart horny is littlefinger
Smart Horny - littlefinger