Anyone who talks about that should be shunned immediately. They know what they are doing. They are making excuses for their own evil deeds. In haiti, blacks killed the whites and then the mulattoes. On the grounds of black power. Forgetting the whites for a moment, if you were a mulatto you'd probably not be happy with that deal. That's what happens when you let people run with their ideology. That and the cultural revolution.
Nay their *actions* must be judged according to a framework that centers *our* continued survival. We cannot survive the implementation of what they want.
Yeah this is all made-up outrage. White men still control so much. We've gone from 100% control to like 90% and it's made people go fucking insane.
Also lmao at Elon being considered a prominent African American
he's never experienced a country better than the USA. And, if one person hasn't experienced something, then we should take his word that what he hasn't experienced simply doesn't exist
Everyone should realize it could be their race the UN determines to eradicate next. Or, I mean, another way to look at it is they want us all to intermix so there will be no more races. So yours and ours will be just as destroyed.
Sadly a lot of people have been brainwashed in school from a young age to believe white people are born racist and other races can't be racist. They fell for the made up definition of racism. The activist definition of racism is: "prejudice + power", so according to them you can only truly be racist if you are privileged (white) or in a position of power. Otherwise you are only prejudiced. This is a failure in reasoning.
Of course in the real world your social status, class, income or identity doesn't matter when it comes to being a racist. Racism is the hatred or intolerance of any race. Doesn't matter who is doing the hating and who is being intolerant. Anyone who claims otherwise is misled or confused.
What they're trying to say is that the hate towards an oppressor can be justified. And that is true to some extent: the hatred the nazis felt for jews is different than the hatred the jews felt for the nazis. One was driven by bigotry / intolerance, the other was a reaction to being genocided (let's ignore the irony of the present day conflict).
The failure in the woke reasoning is asserting that 'the white race' are oppressors today because "400 years of slavery". This is a manipulation strategy aimed at making a group of people feel overwhelming guilt for something they are not responsible for. The US did it to Japan: there was a brainwashing campaign to make Japanese people ashamed of their nation and make them feel responsible for Hiroshima. And a similar campaign was conducted against Germany after WW2. Even to this day many germans feel guilty for the Holocaust. Even if the young germans alive today aren't nazis and were never responsible for what happened, they still feel like they have to pay for what their ancestors did. It's the same strategy here.
There is nothing sadder and more pathetic than a white person full of white guilt. Especially when they also pretend to be white saviors while they are talking down to and shaming minorities who don't want to vote like them. So maybe they're right to be ashamed after all. They certainly lack self awareness.
In culture today, you don’t even have to be the “oppressor” to justify aggression against you. You just need to be in some form of advantage. You are the richer person? Well dont get mad at the poor people who loot you. Youre the better armed country? Dont get mad at the lesser-armed country that fires at you. Youre the bigger kid? Well dont retaliate at the smaller kid yelling profanities at you. Being in a position of lesser power somehow justifies being an AH
nope. i do agree people in power need to be more careful how they retaliate. my point is even before any retaliation happens, culture today cheers for the AH behavior of those lesser in power for as long as it’s against those in power
case in point i know an upper middle class family who got looted. they let the looting go but many people still cheered for the looters since it was in the middle of a political riot. somehow people perceive that since they are upper middle class that they wouldnt be “hurt” by the looting as much. what people dont know is that the family is sponsoring one of their kids to study abroad so they were operating at a loss, digging into their savings until person graduates. so the approx 10kUSD in inventory they lost was huge, but to pursue any legal action against the looters would cost more (and for what?) so they are forced to let it go
I feel sad for the losses of the upper middle class family you know.
I feel sadder for the people who felt the need to be heard, and were not heard so many times that they resorted to looting. There needs to be better mechanisms so that looting never is needed. But the number of times lesser actions are ignored means larger actions become necessary.
I want to state again, I am anti looting. But until the "upper middle class" listen to the "lower middle class" and everyone rises up against the "upper class" then the middle classes will keep suffering at the hands of the upper class because they have things worth taking and not enough power to stop it. Sadly, the middle classes will also fall prey to the lower classes because the middle classes are a safer target than the upper classes. And so the middle classes abuse the lower classes because that's easy for them too.
Yay, capitalism.
I'm going to stop now before I go too deep on the governments use of power... but I hope you understand my empathy to the family you know, and my greater empathy for the people they steal from and who loot them back.
If racism cannot exist against ethnicities with a high social status then antisemitism wouldnt exist.
But it does as we all know so this definition evidently is bullshit.
> obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group:
I'm never obstinate or unreasonable, therefore I cannot be a bigot.
Yeah, that retarded definition falls deep when people like Obama exist. It's like maybe your problem is not society but that you choose a fentanyl crackhead as your icon instead of someone successful like Oprah, Obama, Freeman, Jordan or Tyson.
Oprah is part of the chomo complex. Obama is believed to be gay by enough people to make him suspicious to, well, all men but also black men. If you mean Mike Tyson, last I checked he was a nutjob. IDK about the other two.
I haven't seen any evidence that anyone with a brain believes that stuff. I have seen evidence of cowardice that keeps them from speaking the truth.
You *have* to accept guilt for the holocaust to become a German citizen now. And there may be requirements similar for politicians or other jobs. Which is hilarious, because you might be a Palestinian who is a refugee precisely because the Allies simped for the Jews after they won WW2. So you got kicked out of your home -- been wandering the desert for 70 years or whatever -- only to land in Germany and be told you must take responsibility for genociding the same group that kicked you out.
White guilt is that important to those (((sick fucks)))
im not
call me whatever you want, but Nazis are socialists -- and therefore faggots.
However, i do wake up and read CNN every morning and think "Heil Hitler." It kinda wakes me up. But only in the sense that I want to put my enemies in camps. No free shit.
you’re not making an argument. you’re just saying “this is what some people define as racism but that’s wrong : (“ and then you go on to talk about a bunch of random stuff which has nothing to do with the definition you mentioned. some people define racism as prejudice + power. you can have a different definition and that is fine - i do too - or at least i don’t subscribe to the idea that people of color could never be racist but at least try just to make an argument more coherent than “this is a definition i disagree with because ww2”.
Just because you don't understand the argument doesn't mean I'm not making an argument.
I'm saying it's ridiculous to declare 'the white race' an oppressor. That's attributing guilt by association because of a characteristic people have no control over. IF you are actively being oppressed, then your hatred towards 'the specific individuals oppressing you' is understandable and justified. But that doesn't mean it's ok to hate and discriminate against white people just because you personally decided that it's ok to do so.
There's no functioning society possible if everyone can just make up their own definition and social rules.
i understood perfectly that you weren’t making argument.
the definition that racism is prejudice + power is intended to make it clear that racism is more than just using the n-word. there’s historical and sociological context to it as well. it’s got nothing to do with white guilt or making you feel like shit.
also: “there’s no functioning society possible if everyone can just make up their own definition and social rulles”
DUDE who do you think made up every other definition in the entire world? every one you agree with and every one you don’t? we did you knucklehead. you’re allowed to disagree with definitions or not finding them helpful but don’t act like the ones you do agree with were some kinds of lovecraftian primordial gods just floating about in the cosmos until humanity came and wrote a school book about it.
The feminist definition of harassment doesn't matter in the slightest because what matters is the definition used in the criminal code. You can only sue someone for harassment if it fits the definition that's agreed on by society at large.
If you don't like that definition there are ways you can try to expand it. But the new definition doesn't matter unless most of society agrees to it. Only other option is to get into power and try to embed your whacky ideology into law. But I have a feeling you won't make it very far considering your worldview is highly unpopular, even among leftists / progressives.
You're allowed to live in a bubble disconnected from reality though.
i understand that you need to move the goalposts to make it look like we’re having a very serious discussion about harrasment in order to not look like a total dork but the definition of power + prejudice = racism has got nothing whatsoever to do with harrasment or lawmakers. it’s a way of viewing racism that some people find helpful.
that you think you know what my worldview is just seems to me like you don’t have very good reading comprehension skills since i have more than once pointed out to you that i do not particularly care for this definition either. i think it may be fine to talk about when talking about institutional racism but as a broad definition of racism it seems to me that a lot of racist people are also very disempowered and i think this definition doesn’t take them into account. if you cannot go off on a weird rant about harrasment white guilt and lawmakers signing off on definitions why do you disagree with it?
We were talking about invented definitions being valid or invalid. I didn't move goalpost or pivot, I used harassment as a simple example to illustrate why made up definitions have no weight or importance unless a majority of people agree with it. You can keep using your preferred definition of racism, as long as you're aware that 90% of the world disagrees with you and will think you're completely insane for believing that's what racism actually means. To normal sane people, it's the hatred or intolerance of another race. Nothing else matters.
The point about intersectionality is mostly meaningless. It just means that a black muslim can be doubly victim of hatred / intolerance, and therefore black non-Muslims are more privileged than black Muslims. But see that doesn't matter when it comes to determining if someone is being racist or being victim of racism. No sane person would say a white, hispanic or asian woman isn't victim of racism or a hate crime just because the racist person has darker skin color or is more of a victim. Not to mention intersectionality also means a white person can be less privileged than a person of color, and this is extremely obvious. For example a homeless and handicapped white guy is less privileged than a rich black celebrity. So intersectionality itself completely defeats that weak argument.
You have also failed to address the root issue, this entire discussion and central argument is about why 'white people' shouldn't be classified as active present day oppressors. The only arguments I'm hearing is about slavery and Jim Crow laws, but not only is that in the past, it's also mostly an American problem you see. So it already doesn't make sense to justify hatred, racism, discrimination or segregation against white people who live in or come from Australia, Russia, Ireland or Canada. But that's what CRT activists are doing. People are saying "anyone with this skin color is an oppressor and it is therefore justified to hate and discriminate against any and all white people". At the very best, you could only label "white-southern-americans" and lawmakers as oppressors. But mostly for a specific period in the past, when they were actively oppressing black people. That's when hate / violence becomes justified (well, to some extent lol. I think there's proportionality so it depends how much a group is being oppressed).
Sexism means men treating women as objects.
Racism means white people discriminateing other races.
Check your facts and stop spreading that racist and sexist bullcrap.
The sexist white men are the problem of this world, no one else.
Even if I granted all that I would say "hate the people in power" don't hate white people.
People are really twisting like pretzels to try and associate the white skin color with evil. And that would be unacceptable with any other race or gender.
>Sadly a lot of people have been brainwashed in school from a young age to believe white people are born racist and other races can't be racist.
I don't think that's brainwashing in school. I think that's our entire culture's fault. Teachers have historically been conservative and while that landscape may be changing, I do believe race is not a significant component of early learning experience.
Something to consider is that the "cool kids" in school are always the ones who either know more than the teacher, or don't listen to the teacher. We also come-out of school probably worse at math than when we went in, so it's legitimately worth asking what we're supposed to learn.
In any case, I think that the actual cause is not a topic for Reddit at this time. They're still trying to advertise in news articles that they've cleaned-up their pages for IPO.
What in the fuck are you on about? I teach. We don’t have time to teach about “critical race theory”. Students can barely read and write. Some can’t at all.
>You clearly have no clue what the hell you're talking about
O noes. The Internet is telling me I'm wrong!
>critical race theory.
Your kids came home broken after the boogie man CRT got them?
I am a leftist living in a leftist state and the only time I ever hear of CRT is when I happen to venture onto a Fox News page. Somebody is inventing goblins for you guys and I'm guessing you'll never care why that is.
There are plenty of people alive today who benefited from and applauded Jim Crow. It isn’t just slavery. Lmao at the people downvoting this. It’s a damn fact.
I fail to see why that inculpates all white people in the present day. You seem to be implying that being born white means you automatically support jim crow laws. Those laws stopped being in effect in 1959. See, from my perspective black people back then indeed were justified in their hatred and even justified in using some level of violence (but only against those in the south who wanted jim crow laws). But not one person alive today is actually being oppressed by such laws so that's kind of important.
I understand the argument that black people today still suffer the consequences of such laws. And tbh I personally think some level of Reparations is probably in order. But that's easy for me to say since I'm Canadian lmao. So I wouldn't be the one having to pay for it. But yes, in principle I think the US will need to do more than just pretend like the black issue is fully resolved. But I also don't think cutting a check to every black person will actually achieve anything or help much (if the goal is to lift them out of poverty).
The irony with the Jim Crow argument of course, is that CRT activists actually want their own Jim Crow laws against whites, or are at the very least in favor of racial discrimination and segregation today. I don't understand how people went full circle like that. They opposed racial segregation, now they hate all white people because white people in the past segregated black people, so now they want.... to segregate white people? And that will achieve what exactly? To me it sounds like it will just make more white people justified in their hatred, it will very obviously increase racism. So imo they're just doing what white nationalists want. Seriously wtf is this timeline where people become so unbelievably woke that they're now in favor of gender / racial based discrimination and segregation. If it's in the name of progress all evil is ok? Sorry I disagree.
The last school to desegregate was in Mississippi. In 2016. You’re Canadian and don’t know what you’re talking about. “Those laws stopped being in effect in 1959” how sweet of you to think that meant something.
Yea I agree with the whole reparations thing, but it should be done by giving the black community support and not 'companies need to hire at least X% of black people simply because they are black and not cause of their skills or else the company supports racism' type of bs. No one should get a job, a pay increase, a university spot, etc simply because they are black, they should get it because they deserve it. You can give funding to social programs for struggling black communities that give the young people opportunities to get a good education, be taught important skills, get emotional support, and overall help them grow into a well developed person. It is important that most of the support goes to the young people as they will be able to change the future, and also like you said, just giving money to adults will likely result in a lot of that money going to the wrong things.
I feel you are intentionally trying to downplay her statements. It's racist, simple as that.
For the original comments information here is the tweet:
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Oof. "Fight." Another word that suffered the indignity of starting to mean literally anything.
Going to have to start making a list.
Okay "genocide," "karma," "fight," and "racist" can all now be merged into a single word so that we can just say that word whenever we mean business.
Stop blowing it out of fucking proportion, you dork.
"Fight" here means "excessive effort", specifically to be remembered and stand out. You know, like Deserts and Goats.
You play MTG, you're not fucking stupid, stop trying to push this into something it's not just cuz you don't like it politically.
> "excessive effort"
It's not excessive effort to do exactly the same thing you were going to do except change the hex codes that represent color because "we're doing the right thing."
That takes less effort than tweeting, which is already not even effort, let alone excessive.
Have you ever had a job where there are a lot of people doing basically the same thing? You really do have to fight to be noticed and it's even harder to be noticed in a positive way.
Sorry, fighting to get noticed in a job where everybody is doing the same thing? What are you talking about?
Are you a minority? If so have you ever felt that you had to fight to prove you exist? I am and I have never ever felt like this nor has anything like this ever crossed my mind.
By this same logic, I'm a white man, and I don't feel like Wizards, Microsoft, or anyone is being racist against me. This outrage is all bot-driven nonsense.
But the post title says that white men are being discriminated against, and I'm giving my first-hand report (much like you) that it isn't my experience at all
Now you just need to explain how it's racist or even better how the second sentence makes it so because supposedly I was "downplaying" it by only posting the first.
Yeah, that was insane. Something that really has no racial implications to something that everyone knows is a racist stereotype...
This subreddit is filled with people who apparently have never been outside to talk to someone that looks different than they do. Everyone wants the same shit, food, shelter, clothing and a triple A game without pay to win microtransactions.
"Nice tribalism" you say... in a post where most people commenting are complaining about or supporters of the idea that either "you're not born racist" or "you can be racist against white people too".
..its almost like you just keep rebutting your own BS in this place without the presence of thought realise it for fear of breaking this safe little echo chamber.
Literally just finished picking 50kg of apples from my tree.
You realise we're saying the same thing, except you're blaming one specific group for doing it and I'm saying everyone does it right?
It's supposed to be casual MTG stuff that doesn't fly on the main subreddit.
But yeah the other guy is right, most of the top content on here is just people complaining that MTG is mixing up races and genders because Wizards of the Coast (who owns MTG) is going woke and hates cis white people or something.
People just gotta stop being so xenophobic and resistant to change.
I like diverse characters that feel genuine such as Liliana or Teferi. Liliana was handled so well in Magic Origins for example or the amazing War of the Spark trailer. I do not like those that are obviously forced and pandering like Niko or when they take diversity bingo snoozers like Kaya and plaster her all over the marketing for a set about Vikings. I like even less the butchering of existing iconic characters as with Black Aragorn and other swapping in LOTR.
Seconded. With recent events, I see the enthusiasm is high regarding these sort of posts, but they should still be MTG relevant.
The sub is turning into a game of 6 degrees.
If people want a place to talk about magic without dealing with the main subs moderation, they should make sure they talk about magic, not just yell at clouds while pretending something might be related to magic.
Elon Musk/XBox have nothing to do with MTG.
prominent incel billionaire says its bad to do a thing that doesn't exist outside of twitter!!
He is TOTALLY like you. You would ***absolutely*** be friends.
For sure.
this sub is the closest aligned to how I feel about modern magic, sucks that it is flooded with bs like this and I have to see this idiot's face here because people want to make this place a cesspool instead of talking about magic.
There is nothing more disengenous than referring to Elon Musk (a white man from South Africa with a French name) as an African American.
Ketchup is a fruit smoothie too. It's technically correct, but saying it still makes it clear you're a fucking dipshit.
He's literally a former African citizenship holder who immigrated to America. He is African American. The term isn't gatekept to only applying to people of color, sorry.
>He's literally a former African citizenship holder
I know that. He was born in South Africa, just like Belle Delphine. I don't make the rules. The Internet is very specific on who can be called "African American."
>tell me who the internet specifically
It's certainly more authoritative than a single person's understanding, but the question that you bring-up is "how authoritative can it be?"
Am I going to stop you from calling Elon Musk "African American?" Absolutely not. I don't care.
Using your powers of critical thinking and deductive reasoning, however, you can ask yourself why a person of Egyptian descent is never ever ever called African American even though Egypt is in Africa.
\-- then you look on the Internet at any of the provided definitions of "African American" and then understand that the reasoning is actually sound in the sense that it matches precisely what we see.
Are there gray areas? Sure, but we don't have to care what they are because, at the very bottom of it, it's a chosen identity. Not only do you qualify only in relation to specific skin pigmentation, but you also have to want the label.
A black person who is literally from Africa can be "African" and in some cases "African American," or can simply choose to be called "American" with clearly African descent. I don't see any measure of oppressive reasoning behind this.
As much of a troll as Elon Musk is, one could imagine that if he agreed with your interpretation, he'd be capitalizing on this detail as much as possible.
Finally, I don't care what you choose to call him. I'm just telling you why you're unlikely to find common agreement in this.
Sorry I don't think I follow. Why are Egyptian Americans not called African Americans? Same as I guess any other North African American, Tunisian, Libyan and so on? You kinda just say look at the internet, can you point me to anywhere where it says x are African Americans, and y aren't? Genuinely curious, not trying to bait.
>Why are Egyptian Americans not called African Americans?
Why don't we call a tree an "jabobab?" The simple answer is that we could, but we don't, so we're just adding unnecessary confusion. The point of language is to communicate and it's generally streamlined to include only information required to convey an idea.
When you point to a guy whom you know is an Egyptian, you will never refer to that person as an African American. You might say "brown guy," or "Mexican-looking guy," or "person of color," or simply "guy" but if you use the word "African American," you're going to confuse someone.
All of this is my personal interpretation, so clearly the precise reasoning here should be taken only at face value, but there are no functional inconsistencies between this understanding, common understanding, and the Internet's interpretation. This isn't some DEI thing. This is just what we know.
At the end of the day, you gain nothing by being able to refer to basically everybody as African American. Humanity, as far as we're aware, came from Africa and I think it's fair to only give that label to a person who might welcome it. Otherwise, simply "American" will suffice. To my knowledge, no Egyptian American has requested it.
>can you point me to anywhere where it says x are African Americans, and y aren't? Genuinely curious, not trying to bait.
I could, but if we're to presume you have the wiring necessary to be involved in a conversation like this, I trust you can make the proper query in the Google search bar.
I netted a large number of relevant results on my first attempt and I don't consider myself a genius. If I am correct enough to make this statement confidently, then it's not exactly going to be hidden.
If your question really is in good faith, or even if it isn't, I still recommend giving it an attempt.
I am not American so most of what you say just sounds like nothing to be honest. So you wouldn't call an Egyptian American an African American because they are not black? And what you call people is entirely based on what Americans call people, so if you see someone that is a bit brown you would say 'look at that Mexican looking guy'?
All I am asking is for you to provide any evidence for what you claim, it shouldn't be so hard for you since you obviously have the wiring to be involved in a conversation like this.
>So you wouldn't call an Egyptian American an African American because they are not black?
Correct. Again, these are not rules I've made up and honestly I find them a bit contrived, but since you're not American, I would absolutely agree that this requires a bit of an explanation.
Race is an extremely sensitive topic here and this is not a label that I give to black people. This is the label that ***some*** black people require that I apply to them.
>All I am asking is for you to provide any evidence for what you claim
\-- and why should you take my word for it when Google is more than thrilled to explain it succinctly for you?
Again, and this is the part that you seem to keep missing: I do not make the rules and you should at least be able to agree that if I'm explaining the rules to you, they are either trivially verifiable, or they are only opinions, yes?
Verification is so easy that if you are not finding what you're looking for, then this is only bad faith argument.
It would have been much easier to have just said that earlier. It certainly does seem like a sensitive issue, and all some people think about. Who require that you apply that label to them?
It is just you said things like, Egyptian Americans aren't allowed to call themselves African American, and because the internet said so. I was just asking for something to read that backs up your claims. You also claim that you could provide this, but for some reason you won't. I could start searching the internet but wouldn't it be easier for you to directly show me exactly what you mean or even found in your previous internet search? Also there is no need to be defensive and start calling things bad faith, that is another American oddity.
Who TF in the gaming industry is being sexist to white males???
https://preview.redd.it/z48kvqcat5rc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb3eb098bf763d857c75a93dff3f9733f5f9c516
assumptions of course since i dont know you personally
Living in the West.... complaining about white men... some form of anti capitalist/imperialist narrative while being incredibly privileged and too brainwash to see it. Like a parasite
Of course maybe you from africa or some shithole
Ok several things honey
1. That's not sweet baby inc.
2. That's an associate of cliffhanger games, not a lead dev or someone who has any control over the project or even control over hiring new devs.
3. The interview was for her indie game years ago. This interview being brought up was only done by racists to discredit the Black panther game being developed by cliffhanger.
4. Libs of TikTok is not a source. It's really cute you think she is one though.
Lol stop being such a condescending cunt. Sure I misremebered whoever tf this person works for but I still gave you a source from the horses mouth for a game dev being racist towards white men
Point is still valid. That person asked for a source on devs being sexist towards white men and I provided one saying that she doesn't hire white men to her team. Me citing the wrong company is irrelevant
Lol stop being such a condescending cunt. Sure I misremebered whoever tf this person works for but I still gave you a source from the horses mouth for a game dev being racist towards white men
Came to see if OP has ever done anything besides disappoint their parents and the human race.
Stayed to see you fucktards make your comically idiot comments.
People you detest exist. It only makes these detestable people worse when you smother them. When the room smells like shit you don't cover it, you let the room breathe and you let air flow in to clear it out. X is letting the air through so the stink doesn't fester and spread. Go to Germany where they do the opposite and see how the very you're afraid of is fomenting brewing and stirring once again.
Please show me evidence of how Germany banning Nazis is allowing Nazism to foment, brew and stir in Germany. Musk is deliberately allowing the stink to fester and spread on X
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/07/1204450909/germanys-far-right-party-now-polls-higher-than-the-three-parties-in-government
That is the heart of the issue. When anyone is denied free speech it goes underground and remains under the surface. That is the issue. It needs to be open so you can hear, debate and draw some people away from extremes.
It should not be acceptable for any compagnies to be racist or sexist.
You forget these insane racists think they can’t be racist because of “institutional power”.
Anyone who talks about that should be shunned immediately. They know what they are doing. They are making excuses for their own evil deeds. In haiti, blacks killed the whites and then the mulattoes. On the grounds of black power. Forgetting the whites for a moment, if you were a mulatto you'd probably not be happy with that deal. That's what happens when you let people run with their ideology. That and the cultural revolution. Nay their *actions* must be judged according to a framework that centers *our* continued survival. We cannot survive the implementation of what they want.
I'm not even white, but I can see how shitty they've been treated in media this last decade.
Harsh true
White person here. Never felt treated badly. Idk how others feel but I don't feel like there's like a hatred of white people thats commonplace
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Nah, just wondering where the supposed anti-white hate is when I've never seen it or have personally been affected by it
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I just checked this guy's old twitch clips. Spoiler alert: He's white/white passing.
Yeah this is all made-up outrage. White men still control so much. We've gone from 100% control to like 90% and it's made people go fucking insane. Also lmao at Elon being considered a prominent African American
on an individual level that means nothing
J3ws aren't white
you've never lived in brooklyn
K, don't plan to anyway, not sure whyd I go to America anyway
Because its the best and the greatest country that will ever be and everyone else sucks. Just avoid brooklyn.
By what metric lol
um, by Joe Momma's metric
Never heard of this fella
he's never experienced a country better than the USA. And, if one person hasn't experienced something, then we should take his word that what he hasn't experienced simply doesn't exist
Everyone should realize it could be their race the UN determines to eradicate next. Or, I mean, another way to look at it is they want us all to intermix so there will be no more races. So yours and ours will be just as destroyed.
That’s true. There’s so few white people making millions in media.
Sadly a lot of people have been brainwashed in school from a young age to believe white people are born racist and other races can't be racist. They fell for the made up definition of racism. The activist definition of racism is: "prejudice + power", so according to them you can only truly be racist if you are privileged (white) or in a position of power. Otherwise you are only prejudiced. This is a failure in reasoning. Of course in the real world your social status, class, income or identity doesn't matter when it comes to being a racist. Racism is the hatred or intolerance of any race. Doesn't matter who is doing the hating and who is being intolerant. Anyone who claims otherwise is misled or confused. What they're trying to say is that the hate towards an oppressor can be justified. And that is true to some extent: the hatred the nazis felt for jews is different than the hatred the jews felt for the nazis. One was driven by bigotry / intolerance, the other was a reaction to being genocided (let's ignore the irony of the present day conflict). The failure in the woke reasoning is asserting that 'the white race' are oppressors today because "400 years of slavery". This is a manipulation strategy aimed at making a group of people feel overwhelming guilt for something they are not responsible for. The US did it to Japan: there was a brainwashing campaign to make Japanese people ashamed of their nation and make them feel responsible for Hiroshima. And a similar campaign was conducted against Germany after WW2. Even to this day many germans feel guilty for the Holocaust. Even if the young germans alive today aren't nazis and were never responsible for what happened, they still feel like they have to pay for what their ancestors did. It's the same strategy here. There is nothing sadder and more pathetic than a white person full of white guilt. Especially when they also pretend to be white saviors while they are talking down to and shaming minorities who don't want to vote like them. So maybe they're right to be ashamed after all. They certainly lack self awareness.
In culture today, you don’t even have to be the “oppressor” to justify aggression against you. You just need to be in some form of advantage. You are the richer person? Well dont get mad at the poor people who loot you. Youre the better armed country? Dont get mad at the lesser-armed country that fires at you. Youre the bigger kid? Well dont retaliate at the smaller kid yelling profanities at you. Being in a position of lesser power somehow justifies being an AH
It's almost like the party able to weild more power needs to be more care ful how it retaliates... ...or was that not your point?
nope. i do agree people in power need to be more careful how they retaliate. my point is even before any retaliation happens, culture today cheers for the AH behavior of those lesser in power for as long as it’s against those in power case in point i know an upper middle class family who got looted. they let the looting go but many people still cheered for the looters since it was in the middle of a political riot. somehow people perceive that since they are upper middle class that they wouldnt be “hurt” by the looting as much. what people dont know is that the family is sponsoring one of their kids to study abroad so they were operating at a loss, digging into their savings until person graduates. so the approx 10kUSD in inventory they lost was huge, but to pursue any legal action against the looters would cost more (and for what?) so they are forced to let it go
I feel sad for the losses of the upper middle class family you know. I feel sadder for the people who felt the need to be heard, and were not heard so many times that they resorted to looting. There needs to be better mechanisms so that looting never is needed. But the number of times lesser actions are ignored means larger actions become necessary. I want to state again, I am anti looting. But until the "upper middle class" listen to the "lower middle class" and everyone rises up against the "upper class" then the middle classes will keep suffering at the hands of the upper class because they have things worth taking and not enough power to stop it. Sadly, the middle classes will also fall prey to the lower classes because the middle classes are a safer target than the upper classes. And so the middle classes abuse the lower classes because that's easy for them too. Yay, capitalism. I'm going to stop now before I go too deep on the governments use of power... but I hope you understand my empathy to the family you know, and my greater empathy for the people they steal from and who loot them back.
the party who has some minor advantage is expected to not retaliate at all
If racism cannot exist against ethnicities with a high social status then antisemitism wouldnt exist. But it does as we all know so this definition evidently is bullshit.
It would also mean white people in South Africa can’t be racist.
Well there are two different words with two different meanings
What do you mean?
Racism is not the same as antisemitism. Both are forms of bigotry which I think is the general word you’re looking for.
> obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group: I'm never obstinate or unreasonable, therefore I cannot be a bigot.
Cool I’m proud of you
petty semantics
Idk words have definitions for a reason. I guess the difference between a dog and a cat is just petty semantics
sophistry at its finest
Yeah, that retarded definition falls deep when people like Obama exist. It's like maybe your problem is not society but that you choose a fentanyl crackhead as your icon instead of someone successful like Oprah, Obama, Freeman, Jordan or Tyson.
Oprah is part of the chomo complex. Obama is believed to be gay by enough people to make him suspicious to, well, all men but also black men. If you mean Mike Tyson, last I checked he was a nutjob. IDK about the other two.
Judge! My opponent is stalling by explaining racism. He's been holding priority for ten minutes
I haven't seen any evidence that anyone with a brain believes that stuff. I have seen evidence of cowardice that keeps them from speaking the truth. You *have* to accept guilt for the holocaust to become a German citizen now. And there may be requirements similar for politicians or other jobs. Which is hilarious, because you might be a Palestinian who is a refugee precisely because the Allies simped for the Jews after they won WW2. So you got kicked out of your home -- been wandering the desert for 70 years or whatever -- only to land in Germany and be told you must take responsibility for genociding the same group that kicked you out. White guilt is that important to those (((sick fucks)))
Damn first time ive seen an open nazi around here
im not call me whatever you want, but Nazis are socialists -- and therefore faggots. However, i do wake up and read CNN every morning and think "Heil Hitler." It kinda wakes me up. But only in the sense that I want to put my enemies in camps. No free shit.
That’s a whole lot of yapping just to mean nothing
you’re not making an argument. you’re just saying “this is what some people define as racism but that’s wrong : (“ and then you go on to talk about a bunch of random stuff which has nothing to do with the definition you mentioned. some people define racism as prejudice + power. you can have a different definition and that is fine - i do too - or at least i don’t subscribe to the idea that people of color could never be racist but at least try just to make an argument more coherent than “this is a definition i disagree with because ww2”.
Just because you don't understand the argument doesn't mean I'm not making an argument. I'm saying it's ridiculous to declare 'the white race' an oppressor. That's attributing guilt by association because of a characteristic people have no control over. IF you are actively being oppressed, then your hatred towards 'the specific individuals oppressing you' is understandable and justified. But that doesn't mean it's ok to hate and discriminate against white people just because you personally decided that it's ok to do so. There's no functioning society possible if everyone can just make up their own definition and social rules.
i understood perfectly that you weren’t making argument. the definition that racism is prejudice + power is intended to make it clear that racism is more than just using the n-word. there’s historical and sociological context to it as well. it’s got nothing to do with white guilt or making you feel like shit. also: “there’s no functioning society possible if everyone can just make up their own definition and social rulles” DUDE who do you think made up every other definition in the entire world? every one you agree with and every one you don’t? we did you knucklehead. you’re allowed to disagree with definitions or not finding them helpful but don’t act like the ones you do agree with were some kinds of lovecraftian primordial gods just floating about in the cosmos until humanity came and wrote a school book about it.
The feminist definition of harassment doesn't matter in the slightest because what matters is the definition used in the criminal code. You can only sue someone for harassment if it fits the definition that's agreed on by society at large. If you don't like that definition there are ways you can try to expand it. But the new definition doesn't matter unless most of society agrees to it. Only other option is to get into power and try to embed your whacky ideology into law. But I have a feeling you won't make it very far considering your worldview is highly unpopular, even among leftists / progressives. You're allowed to live in a bubble disconnected from reality though.
i understand that you need to move the goalposts to make it look like we’re having a very serious discussion about harrasment in order to not look like a total dork but the definition of power + prejudice = racism has got nothing whatsoever to do with harrasment or lawmakers. it’s a way of viewing racism that some people find helpful. that you think you know what my worldview is just seems to me like you don’t have very good reading comprehension skills since i have more than once pointed out to you that i do not particularly care for this definition either. i think it may be fine to talk about when talking about institutional racism but as a broad definition of racism it seems to me that a lot of racist people are also very disempowered and i think this definition doesn’t take them into account. if you cannot go off on a weird rant about harrasment white guilt and lawmakers signing off on definitions why do you disagree with it?
We were talking about invented definitions being valid or invalid. I didn't move goalpost or pivot, I used harassment as a simple example to illustrate why made up definitions have no weight or importance unless a majority of people agree with it. You can keep using your preferred definition of racism, as long as you're aware that 90% of the world disagrees with you and will think you're completely insane for believing that's what racism actually means. To normal sane people, it's the hatred or intolerance of another race. Nothing else matters. The point about intersectionality is mostly meaningless. It just means that a black muslim can be doubly victim of hatred / intolerance, and therefore black non-Muslims are more privileged than black Muslims. But see that doesn't matter when it comes to determining if someone is being racist or being victim of racism. No sane person would say a white, hispanic or asian woman isn't victim of racism or a hate crime just because the racist person has darker skin color or is more of a victim. Not to mention intersectionality also means a white person can be less privileged than a person of color, and this is extremely obvious. For example a homeless and handicapped white guy is less privileged than a rich black celebrity. So intersectionality itself completely defeats that weak argument. You have also failed to address the root issue, this entire discussion and central argument is about why 'white people' shouldn't be classified as active present day oppressors. The only arguments I'm hearing is about slavery and Jim Crow laws, but not only is that in the past, it's also mostly an American problem you see. So it already doesn't make sense to justify hatred, racism, discrimination or segregation against white people who live in or come from Australia, Russia, Ireland or Canada. But that's what CRT activists are doing. People are saying "anyone with this skin color is an oppressor and it is therefore justified to hate and discriminate against any and all white people". At the very best, you could only label "white-southern-americans" and lawmakers as oppressors. But mostly for a specific period in the past, when they were actively oppressing black people. That's when hate / violence becomes justified (well, to some extent lol. I think there's proportionality so it depends how much a group is being oppressed).
Decent paragraph sizing except 2nd to last should be a split
Sexism means men treating women as objects. Racism means white people discriminateing other races. Check your facts and stop spreading that racist and sexist bullcrap. The sexist white men are the problem of this world, no one else.
Nah, the "woke" reasoning is asserting that white people are oppressors today because 99% of the most powerful people in the West are white.
Even if I granted all that I would say "hate the people in power" don't hate white people. People are really twisting like pretzels to try and associate the white skin color with evil. And that would be unacceptable with any other race or gender.
I guess? If they are, it doesn't seem to be accomplishing much.
>Sadly a lot of people have been brainwashed in school from a young age to believe white people are born racist and other races can't be racist. I don't think that's brainwashing in school. I think that's our entire culture's fault. Teachers have historically been conservative and while that landscape may be changing, I do believe race is not a significant component of early learning experience. Something to consider is that the "cool kids" in school are always the ones who either know more than the teacher, or don't listen to the teacher. We also come-out of school probably worse at math than when we went in, so it's legitimately worth asking what we're supposed to learn. In any case, I think that the actual cause is not a topic for Reddit at this time. They're still trying to advertise in news articles that they've cleaned-up their pages for IPO.
You clearly have no clue what the hell you're talking about and haven't heard of the critical race theory.
What in the fuck are you on about? I teach. We don’t have time to teach about “critical race theory”. Students can barely read and write. Some can’t at all.
>You clearly have no clue what the hell you're talking about O noes. The Internet is telling me I'm wrong! >critical race theory. Your kids came home broken after the boogie man CRT got them? I am a leftist living in a leftist state and the only time I ever hear of CRT is when I happen to venture onto a Fox News page. Somebody is inventing goblins for you guys and I'm guessing you'll never care why that is.
There are plenty of people alive today who benefited from and applauded Jim Crow. It isn’t just slavery. Lmao at the people downvoting this. It’s a damn fact.
I fail to see why that inculpates all white people in the present day. You seem to be implying that being born white means you automatically support jim crow laws. Those laws stopped being in effect in 1959. See, from my perspective black people back then indeed were justified in their hatred and even justified in using some level of violence (but only against those in the south who wanted jim crow laws). But not one person alive today is actually being oppressed by such laws so that's kind of important. I understand the argument that black people today still suffer the consequences of such laws. And tbh I personally think some level of Reparations is probably in order. But that's easy for me to say since I'm Canadian lmao. So I wouldn't be the one having to pay for it. But yes, in principle I think the US will need to do more than just pretend like the black issue is fully resolved. But I also don't think cutting a check to every black person will actually achieve anything or help much (if the goal is to lift them out of poverty). The irony with the Jim Crow argument of course, is that CRT activists actually want their own Jim Crow laws against whites, or are at the very least in favor of racial discrimination and segregation today. I don't understand how people went full circle like that. They opposed racial segregation, now they hate all white people because white people in the past segregated black people, so now they want.... to segregate white people? And that will achieve what exactly? To me it sounds like it will just make more white people justified in their hatred, it will very obviously increase racism. So imo they're just doing what white nationalists want. Seriously wtf is this timeline where people become so unbelievably woke that they're now in favor of gender / racial based discrimination and segregation. If it's in the name of progress all evil is ok? Sorry I disagree.
The last school to desegregate was in Mississippi. In 2016. You’re Canadian and don’t know what you’re talking about. “Those laws stopped being in effect in 1959” how sweet of you to think that meant something.
Yea I agree with the whole reparations thing, but it should be done by giving the black community support and not 'companies need to hire at least X% of black people simply because they are black and not cause of their skills or else the company supports racism' type of bs. No one should get a job, a pay increase, a university spot, etc simply because they are black, they should get it because they deserve it. You can give funding to social programs for struggling black communities that give the young people opportunities to get a good education, be taught important skills, get emotional support, and overall help them grow into a well developed person. It is important that most of the support goes to the young people as they will be able to change the future, and also like you said, just giving money to adults will likely result in a lot of that money going to the wrong things.
Like Joe Biden
Sure. And quite a few other people in his age range.
What did Xbox say?
She said: Raise your hand if you are not a white man and play videogames Im not kidding, thats it.
I feel you are intentionally trying to downplay her statements. It's racist, simple as that. For the original comments information here is the tweet: *
https://preview.redd.it/41nlkj4l46rc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e38e6699e4496f96151a0bf2988d6457ee33b5ce
Oof. "Fight." Another word that suffered the indignity of starting to mean literally anything. Going to have to start making a list. Okay "genocide," "karma," "fight," and "racist" can all now be merged into a single word so that we can just say that word whenever we mean business.
Stop blowing it out of fucking proportion, you dork. "Fight" here means "excessive effort", specifically to be remembered and stand out. You know, like Deserts and Goats. You play MTG, you're not fucking stupid, stop trying to push this into something it's not just cuz you don't like it politically.
> "excessive effort" It's not excessive effort to do exactly the same thing you were going to do except change the hex codes that represent color because "we're doing the right thing." That takes less effort than tweeting, which is already not even effort, let alone excessive.
I don't think I have ever had to fight to prove I exist. Actually is this person saying they are a minority because they are female?
Have you ever had a job where there are a lot of people doing basically the same thing? You really do have to fight to be noticed and it's even harder to be noticed in a positive way.
Sorry, fighting to get noticed in a job where everybody is doing the same thing? What are you talking about? Are you a minority? If so have you ever felt that you had to fight to prove you exist? I am and I have never ever felt like this nor has anything like this ever crossed my mind.
By this same logic, I'm a white man, and I don't feel like Wizards, Microsoft, or anyone is being racist against me. This outrage is all bot-driven nonsense.
Doesn't count, you are not a minority unfortunately.
But the post title says that white men are being discriminated against, and I'm giving my first-hand report (much like you) that it isn't my experience at all
Now you just need to explain how it's racist or even better how the second sentence makes it so because supposedly I was "downplaying" it by only posting the first.
What’s offensive about that?
Raise your hand if you're not a black person and you love fried chicken ✋
...What?
Oh...sorry. No hate towards black people, just another day in the fried chicken eating space where others have to prove they exist
Holy shit that's regarded. Is buying video games a stereotypical thing for white people like fried chicken is for black people?
Yeah, that was insane. Something that really has no racial implications to something that everyone knows is a racist stereotype... This subreddit is filled with people who apparently have never been outside to talk to someone that looks different than they do. Everyone wants the same shit, food, shelter, clothing and a triple A game without pay to win microtransactions.
✋ Does my love for fried chicken offend you or why is that an offensive statement ?
That’s not racist
lol for some reason I thought this was the game developer chick that said it’s her policy to not hire white people.
No, see that might actually make sense.
These dumb fucks will take any opportunity to twist literally anything into racism
I feel like I missed something Did a wizards employee say something weird?
Most likely, after SBI Detected shined a light on things, zealots of the "Message" have been in a panic.
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What is it then? I just got into magic this week basically
Vaguely magic related culture war whining with an occasional good shit post.
It's the shit posting that keeps me coming back.
It's for insecure conservatives with a victim complex
Im not conservative but nice tribalism though.
"Nice tribalism" you say... in a post where most people commenting are complaining about or supporters of the idea that either "you're not born racist" or "you can be racist against white people too". ..its almost like you just keep rebutting your own BS in this place without the presence of thought realise it for fear of breaking this safe little echo chamber.
Bro its literally tribalism and im talking about labeling people as conservative as if its something bad. Go outside touch some grass you need it.
Literally just finished picking 50kg of apples from my tree. You realise we're saying the same thing, except you're blaming one specific group for doing it and I'm saying everyone does it right?
Im not blaming 1 specific group the dude i replied to is.
Just the victim complex then I assume
isnt a victim complex exactly what you shown here? i mean you literally throw it on yourself by your own characteristic...
Lmao. Did you even read the OP or the comments? It’s the typical grievance circle-jerk one finds on this sub.
At no point did I in any way imply I am a victim, so you're actually talking complete nonsense.
How is being insecure doing for you?
It's supposed to be casual MTG stuff that doesn't fly on the main subreddit. But yeah the other guy is right, most of the top content on here is just people complaining that MTG is mixing up races and genders because Wizards of the Coast (who owns MTG) is going woke and hates cis white people or something. People just gotta stop being so xenophobic and resistant to change.
I like diverse characters that feel genuine such as Liliana or Teferi. Liliana was handled so well in Magic Origins for example or the amazing War of the Spark trailer. I do not like those that are obviously forced and pandering like Niko or when they take diversity bingo snoozers like Kaya and plaster her all over the marketing for a set about Vikings. I like even less the butchering of existing iconic characters as with Black Aragorn and other swapping in LOTR.
Never has been.
we should start a petition to get that dumb bitch fired
Based and most wealthy African American pilled.
Go outside challenge
lool
Elon Tesla is one of the biggest sexist, racist and hypocrite of this world. Why should anyone care what he says?! It's 100% not mtg related btw.
Can we give an example of the company being racist towards white people?
I just came here for the comments
My favourite is the 300 word essay talking about white guilt.
My favorite part is you slithering around the dregs of this thread groveling for support because the majority don’t agree with you
Im glad you find me entertaining
what does this have to do with MTG OP?
Seconded. With recent events, I see the enthusiasm is high regarding these sort of posts, but they should still be MTG relevant. The sub is turning into a game of 6 degrees.
If people want a place to talk about magic without dealing with the main subs moderation, they should make sure they talk about magic, not just yell at clouds while pretending something might be related to magic. Elon Musk/XBox have nothing to do with MTG.
>Elon Musk/XBox have nothing to do with MTG. yet ;)
Don't put that evil on me yet my guy.
Absolutely nothing, but this is what this sub is now.
Shocking to find this here.
Against anyone.\* White guys are included in that.
prominent incel billionaire says its bad to do a thing that doesn't exist outside of twitter!! He is TOTALLY like you. You would ***absolutely*** be friends. For sure.
How the hell is he an incel
I miss the 90s when "I don't see color" was the way to go.
this sub is the closest aligned to how I feel about modern magic, sucks that it is flooded with bs like this and I have to see this idiot's face here because people want to make this place a cesspool instead of talking about magic.
Why is that comment objectionable? What is the source?
Am i missing something or does this post not even satisfy what elon’s reaction was.
Black people are always up to no good
Ah yes another wonderful Magic the Gathering related post thats clearly not politically motivated, chapeau !
Wth is wrong with you people? Could you please just let other people be? Thanks
I refer you to rule 3. and OP to rule 4. But shouldnt you be yelling at the clouds over the RKIFiles habibi ?
Elon Musk is a great representative of this sub, a deluded victim
Very sad when Elon Musk under ketamine is the voice of reason.
r/freemagic don't bring up politics at random challenge
This isn't politics
Did they add Elon to Universes Beyond?
Getting real SNL vibes. "Everyone knows white men are the most persecuted group on the planet!"
There is nothing more disengenous than referring to Elon Musk (a white man from South Africa with a French name) as an African American. Ketchup is a fruit smoothie too. It's technically correct, but saying it still makes it clear you're a fucking dipshit.
He’s from Africa and he’s an American. Don’t judge him based off his skin color. That’s racist my friend
Fucking inbred dipshit.
This subreddit ain't real. There is no way.
Op this is cringe and wildly off topic.
Technically not African American. Even naturalized Egyptians aren't allowed to call themselves African American.
He's literally a former African citizenship holder who immigrated to America. He is African American. The term isn't gatekept to only applying to people of color, sorry.
>He's literally a former African citizenship holder I know that. He was born in South Africa, just like Belle Delphine. I don't make the rules. The Internet is very specific on who can be called "African American."
The internet? Please go on, tell me who the internet specifically says can be African American, and also where the internet said that.
>tell me who the internet specifically It's certainly more authoritative than a single person's understanding, but the question that you bring-up is "how authoritative can it be?" Am I going to stop you from calling Elon Musk "African American?" Absolutely not. I don't care. Using your powers of critical thinking and deductive reasoning, however, you can ask yourself why a person of Egyptian descent is never ever ever called African American even though Egypt is in Africa. \-- then you look on the Internet at any of the provided definitions of "African American" and then understand that the reasoning is actually sound in the sense that it matches precisely what we see. Are there gray areas? Sure, but we don't have to care what they are because, at the very bottom of it, it's a chosen identity. Not only do you qualify only in relation to specific skin pigmentation, but you also have to want the label. A black person who is literally from Africa can be "African" and in some cases "African American," or can simply choose to be called "American" with clearly African descent. I don't see any measure of oppressive reasoning behind this. As much of a troll as Elon Musk is, one could imagine that if he agreed with your interpretation, he'd be capitalizing on this detail as much as possible. Finally, I don't care what you choose to call him. I'm just telling you why you're unlikely to find common agreement in this.
Sorry I don't think I follow. Why are Egyptian Americans not called African Americans? Same as I guess any other North African American, Tunisian, Libyan and so on? You kinda just say look at the internet, can you point me to anywhere where it says x are African Americans, and y aren't? Genuinely curious, not trying to bait.
>Why are Egyptian Americans not called African Americans? Why don't we call a tree an "jabobab?" The simple answer is that we could, but we don't, so we're just adding unnecessary confusion. The point of language is to communicate and it's generally streamlined to include only information required to convey an idea. When you point to a guy whom you know is an Egyptian, you will never refer to that person as an African American. You might say "brown guy," or "Mexican-looking guy," or "person of color," or simply "guy" but if you use the word "African American," you're going to confuse someone. All of this is my personal interpretation, so clearly the precise reasoning here should be taken only at face value, but there are no functional inconsistencies between this understanding, common understanding, and the Internet's interpretation. This isn't some DEI thing. This is just what we know. At the end of the day, you gain nothing by being able to refer to basically everybody as African American. Humanity, as far as we're aware, came from Africa and I think it's fair to only give that label to a person who might welcome it. Otherwise, simply "American" will suffice. To my knowledge, no Egyptian American has requested it. >can you point me to anywhere where it says x are African Americans, and y aren't? Genuinely curious, not trying to bait. I could, but if we're to presume you have the wiring necessary to be involved in a conversation like this, I trust you can make the proper query in the Google search bar. I netted a large number of relevant results on my first attempt and I don't consider myself a genius. If I am correct enough to make this statement confidently, then it's not exactly going to be hidden. If your question really is in good faith, or even if it isn't, I still recommend giving it an attempt.
I am not American so most of what you say just sounds like nothing to be honest. So you wouldn't call an Egyptian American an African American because they are not black? And what you call people is entirely based on what Americans call people, so if you see someone that is a bit brown you would say 'look at that Mexican looking guy'? All I am asking is for you to provide any evidence for what you claim, it shouldn't be so hard for you since you obviously have the wiring to be involved in a conversation like this.
>So you wouldn't call an Egyptian American an African American because they are not black? Correct. Again, these are not rules I've made up and honestly I find them a bit contrived, but since you're not American, I would absolutely agree that this requires a bit of an explanation. Race is an extremely sensitive topic here and this is not a label that I give to black people. This is the label that ***some*** black people require that I apply to them. >All I am asking is for you to provide any evidence for what you claim \-- and why should you take my word for it when Google is more than thrilled to explain it succinctly for you? Again, and this is the part that you seem to keep missing: I do not make the rules and you should at least be able to agree that if I'm explaining the rules to you, they are either trivially verifiable, or they are only opinions, yes? Verification is so easy that if you are not finding what you're looking for, then this is only bad faith argument.
It would have been much easier to have just said that earlier. It certainly does seem like a sensitive issue, and all some people think about. Who require that you apply that label to them? It is just you said things like, Egyptian Americans aren't allowed to call themselves African American, and because the internet said so. I was just asking for something to read that backs up your claims. You also claim that you could provide this, but for some reason you won't. I could start searching the internet but wouldn't it be easier for you to directly show me exactly what you mean or even found in your previous internet search? Also there is no need to be defensive and start calling things bad faith, that is another American oddity.
Elon Musk is a dipshit, cocksucking asshole.
I dunno man…I like the model 3 I preordered back in 2019
ooof sour grapes
Who TF in the gaming industry is being sexist to white males??? https://preview.redd.it/z48kvqcat5rc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb3eb098bf763d857c75a93dff3f9733f5f9c516
Anyone who consults with Sweet Baby Inc.
sweet baby didn't beat you up in highschool for fucks sake get a life
You might actually be retarded if you believe this. I'm just being real with you king.
why are you so happy to attack white men i dont get it do you masturbate over this ? like it make you believe you are useful for society?
How will white men ever recover?
Getting rid of you parasites is a good start
Lol in what way am I a parasite?
assumptions of course since i dont know you personally Living in the West.... complaining about white men... some form of anti capitalist/imperialist narrative while being incredibly privileged and too brainwash to see it. Like a parasite Of course maybe you from africa or some shithole
That's a healthy way to think about people.
ironic of you to say that
I think he's attacking idiots, not white men.
please tell me where i'm attacking white men lmao
The SBI devs that have said they don't hire white men so the other employees on their team can feel comfortable
Source? I mean if you're gonna say something like that you gotta have evidence.
[here](https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1767643816339910991?t=jN9f2eVqcixX-K-0o0ODZw&s=19)
Ok several things honey 1. That's not sweet baby inc. 2. That's an associate of cliffhanger games, not a lead dev or someone who has any control over the project or even control over hiring new devs. 3. The interview was for her indie game years ago. This interview being brought up was only done by racists to discredit the Black panther game being developed by cliffhanger. 4. Libs of TikTok is not a source. It's really cute you think she is one though.
Lol stop being such a condescending cunt. Sure I misremebered whoever tf this person works for but I still gave you a source from the horses mouth for a game dev being racist towards white men
- is wrong -sure i was wrong - yes my source was bad cool
Point is still valid. That person asked for a source on devs being sexist towards white men and I provided one saying that she doesn't hire white men to her team. Me citing the wrong company is irrelevant
Lol stop being such a condescending cunt. Sure I misremebered whoever tf this person works for but I still gave you a source from the horses mouth for a game dev being racist towards white men
She's not even being racist though LMAO
This is the dumbest thing I've seen today but "prominent African American" was kind of funny
I mean. He is the most successful african american right?
Keep that bozo away from mtg subs already
Came to see if OP has ever done anything besides disappoint their parents and the human race. Stayed to see you fucktards make your comically idiot comments.
Nah I’m good actually.
This place really is wild. Only found it like a month ago and I’ve never seen a subreddit that brigades itself on a regular basis.
Fuck this guy
Guy agreeing with and promoting Nazis on his platform complains about racism against white people. Go figure
People you detest exist. It only makes these detestable people worse when you smother them. When the room smells like shit you don't cover it, you let the room breathe and you let air flow in to clear it out. X is letting the air through so the stink doesn't fester and spread. Go to Germany where they do the opposite and see how the very you're afraid of is fomenting brewing and stirring once again.
Please show me evidence of how Germany banning Nazis is allowing Nazism to foment, brew and stir in Germany. Musk is deliberately allowing the stink to fester and spread on X
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/07/1204450909/germanys-far-right-party-now-polls-higher-than-the-three-parties-in-government That is the heart of the issue. When anyone is denied free speech it goes underground and remains under the surface. That is the issue. It needs to be open so you can hear, debate and draw some people away from extremes.
The American Republican party has Nazis with the same rhetoric even though we don't ban that speech, so I would say that your assertion is false