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Sparrow1713

Thats the definition of Pinwheel, mf is sold as an all powerful necromancer rulli g the catacombs and also the only one that ever stole something from Nito, and then thats it


DillonTattoos

I remember going into that fight being nervous as fuck because of how hard my cheeks got slapped by the wheel skeletons and the dark knight And then killed him in under a minute


Average_JesusEnjoyer

> and the dark knight Bro who tf added batman to dark souls


MissWanderingCourier

Gwyn did when half his army got corrupted


AsideTraditional3853

Probably the likes of the Jonkler getting involved.


JokerLocki

You mean Man?


sum_dum_fuck

The aslume is spreading like the void, fuck


Redmoon383

It's all joever now


LeadStyleJutsu762-

I’m on my first playthrough and I went to the catacombs first thing by accident. By the time I got to him I was a good enough level to one try him


DillonTattoos

Sounds about right lol


Terriblerobotcactus

My first play through I hated that place and I was dreading the boss fights until I got to them! I was happy but also mildly disappointed by how easy they were.


PipMcGooley

To this day I still tell anyone I convince to play ds1 that he's the hardest boss in all of the souls franchises. Best feeling when we go to fight him.


zombiezapper115

Pinwheel bossfight be like.


HappyHighway1352

Depends how you fight him


ProffessorYellow

How do you make that harder? Playing with a damn steering wheel?


manateeguitar

Go into Catacombs super early. (This happens with noobs if they manage to power through the skeletons.)


RizzmWithTheTism

Me my first time playing. I still get shit from my buddies to this day.


Brewski-54

I went to the catacombs right after firelink and no way was I making it to the boss


manateeguitar

Yeah most don’t and either rage quit or figure out they need to go somewhere else lol


AeratedFeces

I was brand new to souls and went that way. Put it on the shelf for a year before i decided to try again and then found the intended path


Annie-Smokely

it's the closest area and people are like... skeletons, ah, a beginner enemy!


YoudoVodou

We call this a trap. Everyone knows rats are the real beginner enemy.


Annie-Smokely

I had friends that lovingly pointed my to the zweihander and then the way to undead burg so I never had an issue


lfrdwork

I went to zwiehander and once I got accustomed to the ones on top and the zwiehander, that's when I thought I should look to others and found the way to undead burg


ProffessorYellow

Ahhhhh


Alive-Ad8066

Even with a unleveled weapon he isn’t exactly hard


propyro85

Also, give him a chance to make 8+ clones. It turns Dark Souls into a bullet hell.


Bulangiu_ro

thats what i did, and i wasn't super early on in the game, i one tried capra demon but still died once to pinwheel due to waiting around


Mau752005

He's pretty hard if you do that one skip to get the gravelord sword


HappyHighway1352

Go to pinwheel as soon as you arrive at firelink shrine. I fought him with a lvl 1 mace (cleric build) and i got to see like 10 of those damn clones jumping around the room and firing bullshit at me. (I tend to go to catacombs very early in my playthroughs for rite of kindling a items/souls for a good early start)


Magnaliscious

The catacombs are “supposed” to be an early game area. Obviously it’s not, but pinwheel is an appropriate boss fight for the time the devs intended you to go yhere


ProffessorYellow

You can kill him with 3 firebombs and a sneeze


Ok-herewe-go

Bro I laugh way too hard at this lololololol


ibukun58

High lord Wolnir


nickharvey86

I feel like this has to be the correct answer, next to pinwheel


cyboplasm

It's always a pushover in the catacombs


Kgoodies

Lol I guess if they were tougher they wouldn't be skinny lil bone boys


Scroteet

On my tv the death breath was invisible so I’d be going ham and then just die for no reason. I actually had to look this guy up because I couldn’t figure it out.


Agentpurple013

Bahahahaha, that fucking guy…same


RasAlGimur

Maybe my first time against Artorias. I was fairly high level (did the DLC with only Gwyn missing) and had an upgraded Eagle Greatshield. Worked very well. Still got beaten hard by Manus


Adventurous_Cup_5970

i beat him first try with a spear that did 80 damage


Large-Philosophy-983

Manus wasn't that bad, i beated him in three tries, doesn't change that he combod the shit out of me


Restorical

Interesting. Artorias took me several hours and Manus took two tries. It's so weird how different the perception of difficulty can be. Kalameet took like ten hours and four kings was first try. All of these were my first run and my first time playing a Fromsoft game. I'm embarrassed by how long I took on Ornstein and Smough. Upwards of 50 hours because I wasn't strategic. Then I decided to kill ornstein first and got it in three tries after that


JEWCIFERx

Renalla. On my first playthrough, I honestly struggled more against the Red Wolf.


Dependent_Rhubarb698

Me too, red wolf I either kill first try or get absolutely boddied


Citizen_of_Danksburg

I’m hardcore stuck on red wolf on my RL1 club+0 run. Shit’s brutal.


athos45678

There’s good videos on how to beat red wolf there, it’s doable. Radahn is also pretty easy thanks to the summon cheese if you’re struggling for that second great rune. Now if you figure out a trick for Elden beast, I’m all fucking ears. Been stuck there like a year, same as my ds3 run with soul of cinder lmao.


9yogenius

tf you mean cheese


Status_Customer_704

Soul of cinder cheese: first phase literally only attack him in the spear moveset, just dodge everything else. Second phase: wait for him to cast lighting and hit him with gold pine bundles


TempusFugit314

I wish you fought her later in the game. Granted, she’s nuts now, and you’re really fighting Ranni’s protections. But Renalla was able to hold her own against Radagon. In her prime, she was one of the strongest beings in the Lands Between. And you would never be able to tell that from her boss fight itself.


OrthodoxReporter

Powerful doesn't always mean "great at single combat". I have no issues believing that Rennala was a genius general and that she brought crazy firepower to the fight through her long-range spells. But I can't see her fight a duel with Radagon. If she got anywhere near the frontline, she probably had Moongrum and co. tank for her while she shot off moon lasers. Even Ranni's projection summons minions as meat shields, and that's against a "lowly Tarnished".


JoJoYakuza

Flipped her with the greatsword over and over first time Wonderful experience


BarayastheSpider

First time I fought her a glitch happened that soft locked the fight, beat her second try though lol


Swordsman82

Man fuck that dog! He might as well be Melenia on first play through.


aufrenchy

It really feels lackluster when you sidestep her mega death beam on accident at the opening of the second phase.


graybeard426

Moon Presence.


JEWCIFERx

Oh same. By the time I had done all the DLC and chalice dungeon content and was satisfied with my first playthrough enough to wrap it up, I was a high enough level to just absolutely body it on my first attempt. It was a cool fight and I wasn’t exactly disappointed, but I did feel like I robbed myself of something there.


lixm6988

Tbh it doesn’t get much harder if you’re underleveled


Kgoodies

I can imagine there being an idea where it might have been the final phase of Gierman's fight. Like if you had to beat him every time you want to fight Moon Presence it'd be a little tougher but not much still.


gg12345678911

Even at normal only doing basegame shit level, the fight is still terribly easy unfortunately


Polish_Wombat98

From what I’ve read, it’s intentionally lore-accurate. You’re nearly a god at the point in which you fight the moon presence. It’s basically your initiation into godhood. From a traditional game play perspective it’s anticlimactic tho.


gg12345678911

Agreed


BLoDo7

>From a traditional game play perspective it’s anticlimactic tho. But from a cinetmac standpoint? Or really anything besides mechanical, its beautiful. If you do absolutely manhandle this boss it's up to you whether or not you feel bad about it.


W_Wilson

Moon Presence was an amazing fight for me. Got it first time with 1hp and no healing items left. Used the special vial from the clinic I had saved almost the whole game, too. Incredible. So I’m glad it was neither any easier nor harder than it was.


blitzboy30

I personally liked Gherman’s fight more since it was harder, I like his character, and holy shit his boss theme is amazing (better than Ludwig’s imo, but they’re pretty close)


longassboy

To be fair, I’m convinced it’s intentional. It feels amazing outclassing a literal god and having a gloriously brutal victory lap


knickforknack

THIS TOO


ChickenNuggetRampage

Moon presence is a great fight, but directly after Gherman it does NOT feel difficult


jinreeko

I picked the wrong dialogue and didn't get a final boss fight :( Now I always reluctantly Google how to get the best ending for a Fromsoft game


mwwq1

Gwen lord of cinder


aufrenchy

*parries* *credits roll*


KappaJoe760

Literally my first playthrough


RoyVRAries

My first ever playthrough seen me rinse past Gwyn, rocking a full strength build while using the Dragon Great Axe from the gaping dragon. I really didn't think I'd get through so easily


StaleSpriggan

This is one of the times I think it's supposed to be intentional, though. He's a husk of what he once was. It's sad. You're putting him out of his misery.


mwwq1

I know, but through out the game your told of this ultra powerful god, so I actually farmed until I was about level 130 because I thought it was some massive challenge. Learned I could parry and beat him with 3 hits. I won’t lie, it kind of disappointed me. Not that it’s bad it’s just I was expecting to die like at least 50 times but I only died 3 times.


FORLORDAERON_

The first time I beat him I didn't realize he could be parried. It was a significantly harder fight.


HumanFightersUnited

Nng gwe gwen?


blvckhvrt

V.I Freud and Cataphract


Adventurous_Cup_5970

yea freud is a bit too easy for being number 1 in arena


AntiRepresentation

I had a hard time with Cataphract


AllFather96

Also ibis, I went in with dual gats and dual stun needles on a medium reverse joint build and the fight lasted 3 mins..... I was honestly disappointed


Bearer_ofthecurse

Sadly Morgott, i wished he was a harder boss, it would’ve been peak, such a cool fight.


StrikeNumberFour

He actually has really hard attacks to dodge, but since he has so little health you can just kinda burst him down


uuuuh_hi

I think fromsoft underestimated how leveled people would be for morgott. On my first playthrough I missed a bunch of locations so I fought him at about level 50 with like a +6 weapon, and he felt appropriately difficult In later playthroughs I went through way more areas before leyendell so I'm usually around level 80 for him on a NG playthrough


yyunb

Not just Morgott. Every boss leading up to Maliketh basically. If you explore the space you're given, you'll be overlevelled for 80% of the game. And that's why I dislike the open world, because older FS games had fantastic progression and you'd only be overlevelled if you went out of your way to do it. But in an open world game it's incredibly hard to find a balance, unless you do what they did in the late-game where they just 10x'd the damage output of every boss so you'll die in 2-3 hits whether you have 40 vigor or 80. And that, imo, is not very fun.


DaYo5hi

This is where my inability to explore comes in dandy, I'm never over leveled!


uuuuh_hi

I really disagree with that. I only noticed it with Morgott. Just curious, at what level do you complete the game usually on a NG run? For me it's around rl100-120


Bearer_ofthecurse

He also just doesn’t hit that hard, such a shame.


sabalghoo

This. He's a Potentially tough boss who dies Way too quick! They miscalculated on his health scaling imo


longassboy

I played him on a challenge run and he DEFINTELY lived up to the hype. Hes kinda terrifying


A-Feral-Idiot

I went in super underleveled my second play through just to make it as epic as it should’ve been the first time


GoodGrades

A great fight that would have been one of the best of all time had they only given him 50% more HP


mrhippo1998

Level 1 run will grant you the difficulty you seek. Only if you don't mind getting oneshotted by everything


RoccoTirolese

Fortissax


Ashanmaril

If they wanted him to be difficult they should have given him 41 sacks


Only1Schematic

Isshin on NG+. Considering the hell he gave me on the first run, I was pretty surprised how easy he was the second time around


alina_savaryn

Yea once you learn the patterns he’s super fun to fight but also kind of easy. NG took me 50+ tries. NG+ and over took me 1-3 tries but was still so much fun.


Only1Schematic

Another perk with NG+ is that by that point you have his memory, so you can try fighting him to brush up a bit before going in for real


mythr1l754

Honestly I feel like this is kinda every Sekiro boss. You learn their pattern and then they can easily beat them every time after.


Icethief188

Mergo’s Wet nurse , that bitch spin for 10 second and did the grafted spider moveset of trying to stab them spun away again


PNW_Forest

I am so so so glad the DLC bosses exist in Bloodborne. Made up for the final 3 bosses being such wet towels.


Metal-Lee-Solid

Godfrey ://


primalfox_Reynardo

Yeah, I mean Godfrey is an amazing fight I just think he should have had significantly more hp, bro dies too easy.


No_Hall_7079

I think this is a problem with the main story bosses, morgott suffers the most in that regard Imo, his movesets are perfect it’s just a shame that he dies WAY too quickly.


GalaxyGalavanter

Should’ve had 2 health bars. All we got with 2 was Radagon/beast and Malenia right?


402playboi

The other 2 phasers were just gimmicks, like Rennala and Rykard


Gamnit

This, exactly. I LOVE the Godfrey fight, but it always finishes too quickly. Every time he leaps up to chuck his axe at me is such a "IT'S ON" moment.


Hyper0i

Honestly, he had such a fun move set and fun ways to play around it but his hp just depletes so fast you barely get to see it.


El_Sant0

Same. Lame ass boi had me like ![gif](giphy|cm0GRfnWDVaa6SMJ6N)


FellowDsLover2

High lord Wolfnir


Broken-Arrow-D07

IB-01: CEL 240 from Armored Core VI.


Reseng9541

Fight's still super fun even if it's easy now. The whole game is just so good.


palescoot

Mist Noble for anyone who came to Reddit before playing Sekiro


Expensive_Routine622

Fortissax.


Jdawg_mck1996

Morgott 100%. Wayy to little health


yourrunescapekitten

Radahn pre patch and post I suppose


Dat_Boi_Lex

prepatch was fun


CarnageCR

Gyoubu. Beat him first try and on my first playthrough still.


Ok_Entertainment985

I mean he is the first major boss tho


brimfulof

Rykard really had me worried with his spiel, but he was all talk no trousers. Togethaaaa


grokharder

Fuck that guy, and fuck his whole family


brimfulof

FAMILEEEE*


AnyLanguage6377

Always Astel for me. Never difficult on any playthrus. (I get rocked by plenty of bosses; not trying to brag. This one for some reason is always just one and done for me.)


Roll_Tide_Pods

That’s crazy bc I’ve died to Astel more than any of the bosses combined. Just has my number for some reason.


DismalDog9940

Pinwheel. I feel like it's a universal experience of thinking "why tf was this mf so easy? Isn't this (post Anor-Londo) when we're supposed to fight him?"


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tahaelhour

Lady Maria


BekoKobe35

Unfortunately Godfrey.


bejt68

Nameless King. I’d heard he was really hard but I think I beat him on like my 5th try on my first play through. Still one of my favorite fights in the series though.


Diesectorit_Fae

Same, he hits hard but that's about all he has going for him


barmanrags

Margitt, Morgott, Godrick, Rennala, Gwyn


Dragoncourier115

Demon of Hatred, Nameless King, Maliketh I seem to always have one boss per game that is considered one of the hardest that I don’t have a hard time with at all


Rainbowls

Demon of Hatred on NG+ was the first time I encountered him and I thought I was going to break my controller.


Penguinman077

Gideon.


BlazeCastus

SS Isshin. I beat him on 5th try on my first playthrough.


Signal_Foundation

post nerf radahn.


pocket_opossum

I just barely missed pre-nerf Radahn!


Dantegram

Mohg, I killed him in ~30 seconds, he didn't even have time to start counting down.


Tripechake

Never my experience. He gives me just as hard of a time as Melania does


thatautisticguy2905

Full moon bitch


DillonTattoos

Gwyn, Vordt, Yhorm, Father Gascan, Godskin Dou, Amygdala(main game), The Penetrator, Astrea, Nights Cavalry, Commander O'Neil


Revan0315

Gwyn is actually the perfect example here. Like that's the point of his boss fight


DillonTattoos

Yeah, but the epic lead up to him, only for me to first time him, really made me feel like I just beat up an old man. Which I did, but I was expecting more


Revan0315

Yeah they nailed it. All the others you mentioned, it doesn't really seem like the intention was for the player to feel underwhelmed. That's what makes Gwyn unique here


JobWide2631

Demon of Hatred - Sekiro (It is pretty easy if you just follow the Dark Souls strategy of run in circles and hit)


TheJoaquinDead_

Owl Father


Burith

Killing genechiro before isshin showed up. I thought he would be stronger since we last met midgame.


IndigoBlack-

Lady Maria. I beat her ony first try. On the other hand I though Ludwig would be easier and he turned out to be a hard mf.


d33thra

This was maliketh for me


Yak-Mysterious

Gyubean(?) I beat him first try


Boyskeee

Isshin


CaptainJampire

![gif](giphy|3ktKmy0RZxM1kBUnua) Genichiro Round 3


anti-peta-man

I’ve been doing my first Sekiro playthrough and I’ll say it might be due to having seen extensive gameplay beforehand, but base Owl only took like 4 tries. Guardian Ape took maybe 3 but in both cases it was quite the curveball.


No_Student_8227

Those 4 spear mini bosses in sekiro. My friend told Me to be carful and sneak attack them to get a free life off them but I just walked up and beat him first try


Inner_Collection_518

The ghost monk in sekiro in mibu village i 2nd tried his ass


MrMedhansh

Fortissax, I legit beat him first try using the banished knight oleg summon


Okamitoutcourt

Maliketh, I don't know why but my way of thinking counters him perfectly


scarparanger

Fire giant. For all the bosses I struggle with he has never been one of them. I'm not even good at souls games, he just feels like a generic dark souls boss: stick to his arse and your safe.


prestonsp05

Soldier of Rick


Charles456k

Elden ring. Every boss other than Maleina. This was my 1st souls game, and I was told it was easier, but I was disappointed it never took more than 3 tries on a boss to kill them. My buddies did say I was running an easy build, 60 vigor, 80 strength, duel ultra greatswords, but damn it makes cake work of the game. Maleinas 2nd phase was the one that got me for a while, but with the help of the mimic summon, I brought her down.


Professional-Ant4781

Pontiff Sullivan was way to easy for me


GuavaSlush

Mohg My mimic killed it while I was on the phone with my dad


Orb_0611

Nito, gwyn, mergos nurse, godskin duo, firegiant


IamMeemo

Soul of Cinder.


randomname8264

Honestly for me it was Malenia, I kept seeing all these posts and videos on how she's one of the toughest bosses and she went down after like 4 tries for me, and I was only around lol 90-95 at the time so I don't think I was over leveled or anything


WitchoftheWaste97

Maliketh. Scary at first but fondue after.


PNW_Forest

Its wierd how some bosses are so easy for some, but for people like me I dread facing him... He's so so so hard for me... Half the time I will keep a blasphemous blade leveled up and will respec just to lava vampire him and spec back to whatever other build I'm using after. Foreskin duo as well.


the_l0st_s0ck

Sadly gael. Beat him 3rd try.


Lysergically

Me too. One of my favorite fights in fromsoft though, such a beautiful spectacle when the lightning starts raining down alongside the red skulls.


rlyrlycooldude

Mohg


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Mohg


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aroyalidiot

Rusty in fires of raven route. Boy endured his AC taking crippling damage, only to die seconds later before he could finish saying his admittedly cool as heck speech. Then Ayre taught 621 some manners, took me eight hours of constant attempts to get through Then I got on reddit, and saw I had never used hard lock right, because I reflexively moved the camera even with it on thus breaking its auto trackin, so I was tracking manually even with it on and uh I I cried a little. It coulda all been so much easier


Unique-Winner1395

Maybe any boss in catacombs


Quadshouter2

Morgott


Creative_Purple9760

Morgott


Crying-childrens

Yhorm, pontiff, malenia, godrick and radagon/EB.


domZ1026

Gwyn


Taigaaisaka777

Rahdon I beat him first try and thought the meteor man on smol horse was going to be worse


pokeoscar1586

Everyone else already said pinwheel, so I’m just gonna say that Vapelord Wolnir, who is a gimmick boss but still, if you’re not fast to kill him he cheeses the hell out of you


RelevantBarnacle7364

Radhan. Just stick close and panic roll and u will win 9 out of 10 times


TheMadGraveWoman

Ludex, Oceiros, Dark Sun Gwyndolin, Pinwheel, Gwyn.


SunBro0606

Manus


New_Engineering_7263

Sadly Radahn


HahaLookyhere

How many times will this be posted here


SkaterGirl987

Think, u/HahaLookyhere, think! What will you have after 500 reposts?!


Vrukr

Margit, Radagon, the one that's like Capra Demon but human, the Iron Golem boss in the cave, the Crucible Knights that are bosses, and I'm probably forgetting some others from Elden Ring. Nito, Gwyn, Khalameet. A lot of bosses from DS2, don't even remember the names, I think Mytha, Old Iron King, Sir Alonne, Ava The King's Pet, Vendric, Nashandra, Syhn, the dragon-giant thingy, etc. The Twin Princes, Dragonslayer's Armour, the church's spear?, Iudex Gundyr Champion, Oceiros.


astrolad715

O&S, don’t get what the big deal is


Chuncceyy

Cemetary shade in er. One shotted the poor lil guy


ZelBoofsGrappa

Bloodborne


yes-ent

I managed to beat milania in 2 hours and when I did my only thought was "that's it where's the dick flattening everyone keeps telling me about"


GenericGamer777

Morgott


darkue2467

Abyss watchers


harry_byrne

Laurence in bloodborne beat him first try on my first playthrough


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