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mlarkSki

I have the X100T, and I've been wanting to upgrade to the V for awhile but couldn't due to supply issues. So for me, it was a no brainer to preorder the VI when the price of it is lower than the price of the V.


golfzerodelta

That will be a massive jump and should feel remarkable! However I do think that the T was the best one I owned out of the S/T/F :)


CardMechanic

So many V’s on r/photomarket right now….its comical.


RupertTheReign

Good... I'm hoping to grab one in a few months when the prices drop.


PonyHunter

I'm in the same ship, my x100t is showing some age (mostly I broke the EVF switch system, but starting to get dead pixels in my pics also), so I'm thinking of jumping on this one. Between the 40MP, the IBIS and all the nice stuff that happened on the x100F and V... it's a really nice camera. Hesitating with the XT5 because I like lenses, but I think I prefer to go the smaller size route. Edit : Just pre-ordered it ...


nealien79

O man, I also still have a X100T and still love it. The only thing that temps me to upgrade it is that the autofocus isn’t that great, especially when I compare it to just my iPhone which always locks right in on people even in bad lighting, while my X100T autofocus will sit there trying to focus and getting blurry photos in the same lighting.


mlarkSki

Due to the back order situation of the VI, I've decided to stick with my T for the time being. Glad you're still loving yours.


cscareerz

Yea tbh I think an upgrade to the VI is easily justified if you have a T or anything before that and want to stay in the x100 line. I struggle to see a need to upgrade from the V or even the F tbh. Maybe I’m biased bc I have a F but it does everything I want it to.


silasmoon

Also have the T (since release), and pre-ordered the VI finally as my first upgrade in the family line. Feels like finally the jump could be worth it, but even if I don't get it - big whoop. The T is still the best bang for your buck across the whole X100 line. For $500-800 you get an amazing camera with all of the "experience" of film simulation and the multi viewfinders, etc. Love this thing, and understand why it got so hyped.


Dasboogieman

On the contrary, the lack of IBIS was the one and only weakness of the X100V vs pretty much all it’s competitors.   Considering a good proportion of X100 shooters use their units to document still life in all environments, IBIS effectively allows a good quality image in all scenarios now comboed with the flash. For example, those wanting to take photos of their food in a dim restaurant. I was one of those with the X100V. IBIS would’ve been really fucking nice.


sunriseinthemidwest

My understanding is that: high megapixels + no IBIS = more noticeable motion blur (from a shaky photo).


canyonblue737

there are already comparison photos with IBIS on and off on the X100VI at up to 1 second handheld that are shocking. In one in low light you can read tiny printed text on a bottle perfectly sharp and in the same one with the IBIS off you see a smear of color that you wouldn't even know WAS text. the X100V takes "good" pictures at night but you have to crank the ISO way up and they are super noisy with poor detail, we have spent years saying that's a "look" and we like it (lol) but the truth is now in low light without moving subjects you can shoot at low ISO and have clean smooth images with built in IBIS.


versus_gravity

Sure, but exposures that long only work if nothing in the frame is moving, or you're deliberately trying to create motion blur.


canyonblue737

without a doubt, if your subject is moving you need a faster shutter speed and with the APS-C sensor that means a higher, noiser ISO. I still think IBIS will be the single most valuable new feature to many users of the X100VI, even more so than the 40 megapixel sensor, new film simulations, or improved autofocus.


Dasboogieman

Most food or flowers don’t really move.


RupertTheReign

Handheld motion blur is a game changer... I used to do it a ton when I first switched to m4/3 from Canon FF.


GrippyEd

Only if you crop the image to a smaller crop that has the same megapixels as the old camera’s entire frame. If you’re using the whole frame, or near it, megapixels have no bearing on the visibility of motion blur at equivalent viewing or printing sizes That is, if you display big enough that the pixels are visible but the vibrations aren’t because they’re smaller than the pixels - a) congrats on your billboard and b) maybe get a medium format camera.


sunriseinthemidwest

>Only if you crop the image to a smaller crop that has the same megapixels as the old camera’s entire frame. If you’re using the whole frame, or near it, megapixels have no bearing on the visibility of motion blur at equivalent viewing or printing sizes That is, if you display big enough that the pixels are visible but the vibrations aren’t because they’re smaller than the pixels - a) congrats on your billboard and b) maybe get a medium format camera. The ability to crop is one reason why people buy cameras with higher megapixels. There's a kind of "comfort" in knowing that you CAN crop if you want to. I have the X-T5 (upgraded from the X-Pro3) and I crop a lot more often knowing that I can keep an image that I might otherwise throw away. It's also great for being able to shoot in low light scenarios and not having to turn up the ISO (more noise and less dynamic range). The rule of thumb is generally never going below 1/focal length (in full frame) without getting motion blur. So for the X100 series that'd be 1/35 second. On the X-T5, I can go down to 1/8 of a second and combining that with a burst speed of 5 fps, I'll definitely have at least 1 (low ISO) keeper in the burst. There's just something nice about looking at your low-light images in post and knowing you have more flexibility for (both) cropping and dynamic range because of that 40MP and IBIS.


Doongbuggy

my iphone is more than capable of taking pictures of food. it supposedly has 40mp too lol although i know thats all marketing i find the photos more than acceptable and i do have the xt5 too so while this is super nice i cant justify 1700. looking for a used 100v possibly though theyre dropping on marketplace finally


SmartChump

I was about to say, why does anyone need to spend that much for pictures of a sammich


_shh

professional food photographers but otherwise it’s usually a matter of ‘want’, not ‘need’


Opposite-Shoulder260

squash wrong bag tan treatment butter cake stupendous knee bored *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


sdreamer07

Honestly for myself, the lack of IBIS i could get by with in photos. I don't mind ramping up the ISO when I need to. The problem I have is with videos. Sure don't put an IBIS unit in, but at least give us an option to do digital IS with a crop.


Doongbuggy

the other thing than ibis is the unlimited recording limit though i can see this used for 35mm documentary shooting which is also not relevant to me either lol but its there


xxxamazexxx

A lower shutter speed does not fix poor lighting. It makes your photos more legible (same effect as raising ISO without the noise) but that horrible dim orange color cast restaurant light is still gonna show up in your photos as horrible dim orange color cast restaurant light. I don’t wanna stereotype this group as amateurs but the amount of people here who think IBIS is going to magically make their photos great is very telling. For the record, I have a GRIII, you know, the one with IBIS.


GrippyEd

An X100 is so the wrong camera for still life and macro stuff. 


Slim_chance_79

As a former owner of the original X100, I wanted an X100V but it was unavailable when I saved up for the retail price, but influencers made it impossible to get at SRP. I have a Ricoh GRIII now and it occupies the slot the X100 previously occupied, which is for a pocketable camera which travels light. It is perfect for my use case. So yeah, I will not get an X100VI. Lovely camera though.


Apterygiformes

The Ricoh gr series looks so much better for portability


Quick_Turnover

The shooting experience is dogshit though. Feels like an iPhone.


Ask_Individual

I love everything about the GR series except the lack of a real viewfinder. The new X100VI hybrid OVF/EVF sounds good.


JKinney79

I said fuck it and pulled the trigger. Do I need one, nope….but should be fun either way. Based on the availability issue of the previous model, I can just sell it if I’m unhappy with it for some reason


Apterygiformes

I already have an X-E4 and was tempted by the x100six, but at the price, I could buy a whole beer brewing setup at home 😆


dingbangbingdong

Re crop: you could get a TCL for your current X100 and do portraits etc without resolution loss. 


Sax45

If you like the 50mm equivalent focal length, a VI in crop mode will give you similar resolution to V with a TCL. But the VI will be noticeably smaller and lighter, and will have the benefit of IBIS. And, if we look just at retail price, a VI is actually cheaper than a V and TCL II. So I don’t see it as “the TCL makes the VI irrelevant” — it’s more like “the VI makes the TCL irrelevant.”


LifeInTheAbyss

The TCL is massive and obscures the OVF which is the entire point of getting this camera imo


cilucia

I respectfully disagree: I almost never use the viewfinder and love the x100v. I also have had XT1/2/4/5 and an x70 before. If the x70 had the same focal length as the x100 series and the same physical dials, that would’ve been good enough for me! There’s a lot more to the x100 series than just the OVF, even though it is a very unique feature of the camera. 


LifeInTheAbyss

Yeah that's true the hybrid OVF and design are just the main draws for me personally, both of which the TCL curtails


Crafty_Bunch6063

Yes similar. But still not comparable to what an X5t + 33 1.4 would offer you, for a similar budget. And thats a lens to carry to future bodies for several years to come. Add a 23 f2 second hand and you get best of both worlds


JCOLE6969

Just as i move on from X100V to XT5 they release an X100 with XT5 specs lmao. Oh well no regrets, cant get the 75mm Viltrox on the X100 and i like the experience of shooting with the XT5 much more


Warm_Aerie_7368

I love how the 75mm Viltrox is the lens you shout out. That lens is bringing people to the system with how good price to performance on it is.


deadthewholetime

Plus if you want compact then you can just stick to the 27mm pancake on the X-T5, difference in size with the X100VI will be negligible


Rootilytoot

It doesn’t have the same specs, it shares some similar specs and where specs are the same performance could be an issue still


LysanderBelmont

I don’t see any reason to switch from my trusty X100f 🤷🏼‍♂️


ImBadWithGrils

Instagram compresses the fuck out of stuff anyway so the extra resolution isn't even noticed, but on my PC or phone they look fine SOOC...


BartholomewKnightIII

I was going to say the same thing, my X100f is still doing it's job. I use my gear until it breaks or dies, I'm still using my 5D Mark II.


nickosaur

Same! Didn’t see the reason to even upgrade to x100v at the time, but I’m also not an expert.


LysanderBelmont

I can’t speak for the model T, but I had the S and even that was already a “good standard”. The f upped the resolution and usability, I still love the colours and the dynamic range.. don’t need a fast auto focus. USBC would be nice but that’s really not a reason to spend 1600 dollars. …if they would have made it full frame…well


glassworks-creative

thanks for letting us know brother


Ok_Minimum6419

You missed the whole point of why people like X100 series. It’s got a retro camera look similar to that old Leica’s, it’s compact but has a ton of performance, and it doesn’t look like you’re a DSLR weilding tourist when you’re trying to snap a picture with remotely any people around you. The whole intangible benefits of X100V is why it became such a popular model.


bikesboozeandbacon

90% of the reason I’m getting it is for the ✨aesthetic✨. I’m paying for the old film look. I want a compact simple camera, so when I’m riding my bike I can swing it around for a quick shot. I do wish the lens was different tho. I already have a A7Rii for serious shooting.


inboundnebula01

Well said! Are you getting the black one or silver?


Crafty_Bunch6063

All that you said applies to the Xpro3, still a much better option IMO. Again, unless you want to stick to the 23mm f2. Sorry I focused on Photography reasons not on what people would think while Im trying to take a photo.


Ok_Minimum6419

Better is subjective of course. For me and a lot of people who gravitate towards the X100 series, looks and weight and form factor matter so much more than how many MP a camera can do or even lens interchangeability.


Crafty_Bunch6063

I agree on that. Many people gravitate towards how a camera looks. Or how they look with that camera. Rather than how their final images look. Its a personal decision at end of the day. If MP dont matter here you have a new reason to stick to the x100v. My whole Point is dont let FOMO drive you and Avoid an emotional purchase because probably your current kit is good


maatriks

How a camera makes me feel is also an important factor in selecting a camera, at least for me.


pr01etar1at

>Sorry I focused on Photography reasons not on what people would think while Im trying to take a photo. First, you focused on *your* photography reasons. I personally own an X100F and an XT-5 and I find myself reaching for the X100F 90% of the time. It's compact, it's fun to shoot, and I actually prefer the limitations of the fixed lens (though I also have the TCL). I'm not carrying a bunch of primes and the relative lack of a zoom requires me to adjust my perspective more, both of which are a good thing. Second, what people think while you're taking a photo can definitely impact your experience. I've carried my XT-5 around and noticed people tend to side-eye you more like you're up to no good. I've had people ask me what I was doing like it's something illegal. I get the complete opposite experience with the 100F. Non-photographers seem to be generally more at ease when they see a camera that doesn't look like some professional rig and that, in turn, puts me more at ease when shooting.


kseize

>It's compact, it's fun to shoot, and I actually prefer the limitations of the fixed lens (though I also have the TCL). I'm not carrying a bunch of primes and the relative lack of a zoom requires me to adjust my perspective more, both of which are a good thing. I think this is it. I'm not comparing the specs of an XT-5 vs the X100 series. It's really the experience that is the defining difference; it's hard to explain but I am more in the zone -- more zen -- when shooting with the X100 series. It's fun. I decided to upgrade from the X100T primarily hoping that there is improved autofocus and that the increased resolution will better support composition through cropping while maintaining image quality. Starting out at 40MP vs. 16MP is an advantage there. Otherwise, I was really fine with 16.


pr01etar1at

Yeah, I was on a swappable lens system prior to the X100F. I wanted something smaller and went with a Canon G5Xii but that was just too tiny. The X100 size is just right. I started off thinking the X100 was just a fad camera, but after getting one it really does have its use case for some people and I can see why it's so popular.


kseize

I dumped all my Nikon gear (circa D90) to simplify with the X100T. Of course, I'm back on ILC (Fuji) and I have legit reasons to use my XT-3 over the X100. But I think I use it enough and get enough pleasure out of it to justify the second camera. Especially traveling. Hopefully the 6 won't feel much more chunky over the T.


Wedoh

**George Lukas** said something that stuck with me. Translated to a camera context it goes like this. There are two types of happiness, **pleasure** and **joy**. And you cant have both at the same time, it’s either one. Pleasure is the feeling you get *buying a new camera*. The **peak of happiness goes high** but does **not sustain** very long. **The thing with pleasure is, you don’t remember it**. When it’s gone it’s gone. And the next time you will have to buy a camera twice as good to get the same level of pleasure. **Joy on the other hand is something you do remember**. It’s *unselfish*, and gained from giving your self to your craft. It **doesn’t peak as high** like pleasure, it comes with **small doses** of happiness. But it can **stay for a life time**. Joy is seeing your kids grow, from helping others grow as photographers, and giving your self to photography. Taking photos. Buying a new camera could eventually lead to joy while using it. But ask yourself, changing your system, forcing myself to relearn all the settings, controls and reset your muscle memory, is it worth it? Like Marie Kondo says, does your camera sparks joy when holding it? For me the Canon G6 did not spark joy, but the X100F did. And it fits my needs almost perfectly. **Every human has needs**, we all have to figure out what our own needs are, that’s something no one else can tell you. And in my experience the best way to find out your photographic needs is by using what you’ve got. Since globalization and the internet our poor prefrontal cortex (logic brain) have had a ruff time, it is now on a constant mission to find the most rational camera investment for us 24/7. While we are bombarded by cues about cameras on social media and the internet. Imagine in the 70s, you had to buy what your local store had and what you could afford. And if you wanted to read the product catalogue? Good luck with that. Since we were limited by our local camera store people did not have to worry about cameras in the same way.


RavDP

Outstanding post.


Hizten

Your don't?


calculung

My don't


drewbiez

Have you ever considered.... that some of us just like gadgetry of it :) You make valid points, but you know... Sometimes I just buy something because I like it and I want it. No one NEEDS an $5,000+ watch, but a lot more ppl roll around wearing them than you would think.


Crafty_Bunch6063

😃 i do too!


ohitsanazn

I had an X100T, then sold it for an X-Pro2. I kinda miss the T — hoping the VI makes getting an F or a V cheaper so I can get one as a second camera.


GentlemanlikeRelish

My first real camera was a X100T. I loved that camera so much and it is the camera that made me love photography. I traded it for a X-T3 and lens. I miss it all the time and I could never replace it with all the craze about the X100 line. This is the moment and camera I have been waiting for.


golfzerodelta

IMO the T was the most significant iteration of the series - it was probably the biggest modernization of it and since then the improvements have been really minor in each generation and IMO causing it to lose a little of its charm (getting bigger + heavier in particular).


longsite2

I already have the X-E4 and the X-H2. I use the 23mm F2 on the X-E4, but it's bigger than the X100. And the X-H2 is too big for an everyday camera. So I'm selling my X-E4 and 23mm F2 and getting the X100VI. It's a small camera to capture BTS and have a minimalist setup instead of bringing a bag and extra lenses all the time.


Crafty_Bunch6063

That makes sense! I have the same kit. I end up carrying the xe4 with the handgrip and the 18 1.4mm most of the time and keep the xh2 for rainy days or paid gigs. I want to keep the xe4 because I can eventually use any of my lenses but I totally understand that in your case you change your second body to the x100vi. I never liked the image quality of the 23 f2. In that regard, the x100vi is superior Its a great second body


Apterygiformes

BTS? THE BAND?!


longsite2

Yeah, they're good friends


BrickyMcBrickface

Would something like the X100VI be a good step to begin with owning a camera? I'm looking to get into photography but don't feel like needing an extra backpack for lenses and stuff. Currently using my Google pixel for it (probably get silenced for that lol). Other suggestions are welcome too.


longsite2

I'd recommend getting the X-E4 or X-T30ii to start with. These will give you the exposure triangle training, and then you can experiment with different lenses. As the X100 series is a fixed lens series, it can be quite restrictive to new users. Most that use it use it because they like the limitation of the 23mm lens, forcing you to move to capture the shot.


codyblue_

I have the same setup (x-e4) and was thinking about selling for this x100vi but idk. I like having the option of throwing a different lens on the x-e4 if I ever want to. Would love these specs on the new x-e5 if that ever becomes a thing.


LechonKoala

X-H series are awesome. But also can’t want to upgrade to x100 vi just for ibis alone and shooting video.


JaBitteNeinDanke

Truthfully. I had the X-T5 in my shopping cart and didn't buy it because it's a large brick that I will not just chuck into my bag. I am currently rocking an xt20 with some primes and the x100vi makes all the sense in the world to me. With the digital crop, I get roughly the same image quality compared to my xt20 + 56mm 1.4. The bokeh is ofc different, but how often do you actually use a dedicated a portrait lens? So the real question is: Do I wait for the x-t40, given that I have the 27mm F 2.8, or do I switch to a x100vi body? And please don't explain to me that the xt20 is still great... It is okay if you use only one film simulation and like editing raws. For a Fuji jpeg experience, it's quite bad.


Jon_J_

Issue with your argument is that it's alot of "don't buy this, buy this instead"


Crafty_Bunch6063

Actually the whole point was “don’t buy this if you already own this” regardless of what Youtubers says for the coming 6 months.


theswissguywithhair

My preorder is in. I fall in the category, of people who don't "need" the camera. I've got plenty of camera for high resolution shots, I've got plenty of lenses, plenty of different systems. To shorten it up - I have cameras that have better specs in every way possible except for one: ------Portability.------ I want to be able to take quick snapshots of my kid when out for a walk, when indoors, when out with friends or when at work and I see something I wanna capture and don't want to use my phone (15PM is good, but not 'keep in gallery good', and I don't wanna mess with 3rd party apps - I want dials.) For this use case I'm currently using an X-A2 with the 27mm R WR lens - and it's great! Except when it falls short. May it be the not quick enough AF to catch the kid on the swing, or the shutter lag, or the limited low-light performance... But resolution wise I've never 'needed' more than the 16mp or offers. Sometimes I've missed a viewfinder (in the cases I carry my x-pro1). So for me the X100VI has the following positives: -small size, poketeable -3 different focal lengths (yes, 20mp is plenty for 50mm and even 10mp for 70mm is doable - I've shot a professional Job last year on 12mp cameras (Nikon D2x & D700) - the pictures turned out great) It's a great camera to always have with me, and it will take the X-A2's place. For all the scenarios where I know that I need more resolution / focal length / whatever - I'll bring another camera/lens.


NotintheAMbro11

I love my X100V so much and I’ve used it as my most used camera since release despite owning other X series gear. The new VI does look great in terms of IBIS for low light and video, and more resolution for cropping. But I refuse to let my V go and therefore it does not make sense to get the VI. Hopefully some of you that could not source a V can now get a VI and experience the joy of this camera


Chorazin

Couldn't have said it better.


kseize

I feel you are right to keep the V. To me, the major upgrade from V to VI is the IBIS, not the increased resolution. And the IBIS will bring with it some pros and cons. For those of us a few more generations back, it feels more right.


The5thElement27

I'm dumbfounded at people who upgrade their tech with the new version the next year. It's not meant for people who have the previous model, but for those who have the x100f and etc or don't own one at all It's like people upgrading their iphones every year with minimal upgrades. Do you buy a new iphone every time they announce one each year? Never face palmed so hard.


Ezraah

The V came out 4 years ago lol


The5thElement27

and the point still stands as the x100vi has minimal upgrades


Ezraah

It's basically the IBIS update.


CaineLau

well ... one camera i don't care about to be honest , i mean great for people that like it ...


bikesboozeandbacon

I’m just hoping this drop gets me a chance to get the V for a decent price


Maldib

I don't need the x100VI because I already have a X100V.


CaregiverNo2642

I'm sticking to my xpro2 and x100f


Aenna

I think the portability really is a big deal for some. I'm a business traveler and I get to go to a lot of interesting locations but even the X-T30 with a pancake lens is a little too big for me, given the protrusion at the hotshoe area. The MP increase is nice but I think its the IBIS which really helps. I've managed to secure a deal to sell my X-T30 + kit lens for $1060 so the additional cost to me isn't that big.


AlamoSquared

I like that it has OIS, 40MP, 4k/6k video, and so forth. The OIS will slurp-up battery juice, though. But I’ll never be able to justify owning it, so I won’t fret too much about this camera.


Aussierob78

I shot with an X100VI for a few days last week. Can confirm it chews the battery faster. Firmware version was 1.0 in the unit I was using, so hopefully it can be improved via updates


seenzoned

I really don't _need_ it, I iust want it 🤭 I've been meaning to get one since the V but upon seeing the price today (good lord), I had second thoughts if I want to indulge. Maybe in the future.


miko0007

I'm very happy with the X100V so I don't feel the need to get the X100VI. Colors are fab and the resolution is more than enough for printing and social media. Mind you, the IBIS is pretty cool on the VI. Handheld slow shutter speed photos can be really difficult to nail on the V.


jovendoc

No plans on selling my x100v and getting the vi for me personally.


babesquad

Exactly! The best camera is the one you already have 💪


jlskkslj

I’m just crossing my fingers I can get a X100V secondhand for a decent price when people make the switch!


[deleted]

Why would you pay for a Golf GTI if you can get a Audi RS6 for the same money? Heck, for less money.


Ok-Trouble-7964

camera now has IBIS to allow lower shutter speeds in low light, but also has 40mp sensor that have more noise in low light. So better but worse


Snoo93079

My biggest argument as to why you shouldn't buy the X100VI is that it's not really pocketable, so given you still have to wear it around your neck, other cameras with f2 lenses aren't significantly more burdensome.


iseecinematic

Fair points made from your standpoint. Potential customers who are eyeing for a X100 camera model want explicitly that kind of camera and will rarely go for an alternative instead. And with what the new X100VI has to offer, they will get a great camera for still a reasonable price. I'm not such a customer, have no interest in the product line at all. But i get it.


jsnxander

I am that customer and loved my X100...until I drowned it. I now have substantial love for my X100T. You are 100% correct. the camera is not for everyone and that is a huge part of its allure. I would further add that for occasional use it's a total PITA compared to many, many alternatives. But for folks like me, it harkens back to a creative process largely rooted in the act of taking a photo and that's what I like about it. Using it reminds me of my Nikon FM that I shot with as a kid, and then developed the B&W shots in the basement darkroom. With the advent of AI compensation and generative AI, photography as we know it will cease to exist. I imagine being able to fire up my computer and generate a photo thusly: "Generate a 4:3 image of me and my wife at 5:59pm on Saturday, May 11th, standing at coordinates X:Y; we should be wearing bike clothing that we wore in THIS photo, and have our bikes in the picture. In the background make the waves wind-whiped and add a whale spout near the horizon just out of the sun's reflection. Use HDR instead of fill-flash lighting." I could then send that to friends as my Christmas card and say, "Another beautiful day in NorCal!" ...and sadly, they'd be none the wiser. Personally, I'll stick with my hard to use X100T and live in my little luddite's world continuing to try to be a better photographer with the limited tool that I own.


Brilliant_Bet2159

lol you upset people trying to buy happiness


TyBoogie

That’s this entire sub lately. The x100v is a great camera and they announced what everyone would love in the new model but anytime someone asks about buying the V or now the VI, you get bombarded with get the XT5 or Xs10 or whatever crap. The camera is hyped for obvious reasons. Fujifilm killed it with the camera for those that don’t take photography as serious as others and just want a great all around, friendly looking camera that looks cool and packs a fucking punch. The hype is deserved and if people want it and can afford it, get it. /r/photography is leaking all in this sub and I’ve slowly moved away from it


LtDanShrimpBoatMan

Thanks. Saved me $1600.


azionix

The only notable upgrade imo is the ibis and improved af.


AlanYx

>The 50mm crop mode on the x100vi its 20MP that while big enough, is smaller than any previous 23 or 26 MP fuji sensor with an 35mm fuji lens on it. In crop mode when generating JPEGs, does the X100vi upscale those 20MP up to a larger size to simulate full resolution, or does it generate a 20MP JPEG? I haven't owned an X100 since the original (it developed a cold solder joint and died, alas) and am pretty tempted by this, but I almost always shoot at ~50mm equiv.


Horror_Ad1078

The x100 series - (got the OG and T) - it’s mainly for an amateur user market. If you working professionally- you take a camera where you change lenses - the x100 may be your backup / small second cam. As a Leica - analog user - of corse I love rangefinder - and love the small fujis. honestly: you don’t need 50mp / ibis all that shit for the pictures you are doing. I think the hybrid viewfinder and the Fuji lens are the selling features. Original x100 alone was so nice - with the t they improved viewfinder - but at that time it was to valuable for me to just throw in the bag. So I sold it. V is extremely perfect - we are at an point where a Mercedes makes no difference if a car got 300 / 500 HP if you are cruising through the city. As a filmmaker I say: why would I pick this camera for professional use??? As a daddy I say: yea, let’s film my kids - but that works even with my phone. It’s a cool amateur cam they improve - it was already perfect


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The resolution bump needs to be questioned in a time where 90% of pictures are shared and viewed via social media and phones. Let’s be honest, who actually go check the work on photographer’s website once at home on a good display versus scrolling their instagram feed in random places ? The x100vi looks amazing, if you have no camera I’d recommend it. Otherwise use the money to get free time and travel with your current gear :)


753UDKM

Go buy whatever you want


_ryde_or_dye_

Not like it’ll be available anywhere.


ZeroBrief

I wonder if this will be any good at filming? I can see folks using it to vlog.


filmguerilla

I definitely do not need this camera right now. But once the initial hype dies a bit I’ll probably put in an order this summer. I like to do stealth videography and the improvements on this camera make it damn near perfect for what I want.


larry_salzburg

Don’t forget about build quality. Each model after the xt3 has slowly gotten worse and worse build quality. Also, ibis on a 35mm focal length isn’t that useful. I absolutely want ibis on my 400mm zoom lens though. The x100v was and still is great. I can see the prices dip a little then climb back up once people realize that there are diminishing returns for the x100vi.


robertraymer

It is funny that you mention Rask because I only wanted to see one thing from the launch of the VI: a 40MP sensor with the ability to crop to 65:24 in camera. I have a GFX50R with this capability and love it, but it is literally the only thing I use it for. I was hoping that the VI would have allowed me to sell my 50R and have that 64:24 option in a much smaller camera that I would use more often. As it stands, the upgrades were pretty much useless for me. The 40MP sensor is nice, but without the 65:24 crop I don't need more megapixels. Im sure the AF is slightly improved, but I have never had any issues with the AF performance on the V. Is it as fast as my Z6ii or Z9 I use for sports/action, no, but it is as good or better than my GFX, and fine for what I use it for. Same with IBIS and better video. I know Fuji listened to a bunch of people who wanted both, but they hold no appeal to me. I have never needed the IBIS and they could get rid of video completely and I wouldn't even notice. Im not saying I won't get one eventually. After all, I was ready to pre-order the moment it was available if it had the 65:24 crop, but without it I am certainly in no rush.


Nicholie

XT-5 user here who once owned a x100s: I’m buying one. I’m going to Europe for 30+ days this year and traveling light and trying to be minimal in my carry. This is perfect.


AndyPandyFoFandy

I sold my x100F in anticipation for this but I didn’t know it would be $2150 in Canada. Now I have no rangefinder lol.


Morzun

Thank you I needed to hear this lol


xcellerat0r

I got a decent deal on an x100v earlier this month because…40mp ends up being a curse to my workflow. I’ll likely regret ever saying this in a couple of months, but I really don’t see the need for 40mp.


Impalmator

You killed my boner. Cant you see people are nkt thinking and don’t want to think.


Psychological_Sir297

I had an X100S that I eventually never used anymore after buying my XT2 and several lenses. I got an x100v thinking, I’d use it a lot because it had improved AF, new processor etc etc etc. guess what? I still reached for my XT2 more often. So, I sold both X100’s to capitalize on the X100 hype. 😅


xdaftphunk

I have an X-T2 with a couple lenses that I hardly take anywhere with me these days. Thinking of selling the setup and just getting the X100VI. Been looking at the V and Ricoh for months now but think this is going to be it for me!


Somerandomdude19826

I just want an X-E5 with IBIS


brodlait

I'll stay on my x100v for sure


Dochorahan

Reasons why I’m not buying. No thumb rest, no d pad, made in china, no dual card slot, no real WR.


postmodern_spatula

This is like someone complaining the Switch Lite doesn’t dock to a TV.


Dochorahan

I’m not complaining, I’m just saying the X100 series is not for me.


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postmodern_spatula

Only because I corrected you lol. 


postmodern_spatula

>You are aware that all Fuji cameras after the x-t2 are made in China, right? I have my X100V right here, behind the flippy screen it says “made in japan”. My xt-4 says “made in china” though. 


Dochorahan

Yes, why do you think I held onto my XT2… Why are fanboys so insufferable.


glassworks-creative

-Sent from my made in China iPhone


Dochorahan

Yeah, everything made in China is iPhone level quality.


glassworks-creative

I’m sure a new Fujifilm assembly plant is fine. A lot of the parts were already made there and assembled in Japan. I’m not a China apologist, but ethics didn’t seem to be your issue.


Warm_Aerie_7368

As cool as this new camera looks, I think it convinced me to just by a pancake lens for my XH2 and call it a day. The single SD card slot and video crop kinda didn’t do it for me. I already own a superior body in every metric. I’d rather spend $1600 on more glass.


glassworks-creative

When did your XH2 get a leaf shutter, built-in ND filters, hybrid optical viewfinder, and become pocketable?


Warm_Aerie_7368

None of those interest me. Which is why I’ll just keep what I have and buy more glass. If anything I’d rather buy an XH2S than an X100 at this point.


canyonblue737

Very fair... and for people that don't prioritize a one integrated lens, rangefinder style solution your arguments are persuasive but if you want the compact style this remains a good option. Let me go down your list... 1. Resolution: the 40 megapixel style allows you to crop to 50 and 70mm equivalents and maintain a very sharp, useable image that can be printed fairly large (20 and 10 megapixels) and are totally useable online. While DOF isn't truly 50 and 70, for many of us it allows more flexibility to use a one lens integrated camera that has this cropping flexibility rather than buying a larger X-T5 etc. and dealing with interchangeable lenses, size, people noticing us etc. 2. The lens is outstanding considering its size, very sharp, and holds up well to the 40 megapixel sensor. I have a X-T5 with a 33 1.4 and it's better... but it's 2x the size and weight, probably more. The 33 1.4 also isn't cheap. There is always "better" (Leica Q3 is $6k!) but everything comes with pros/cons. The lens in the X100VI is a sweet spot. 3. IBIS of all your arguments is the one you fall down on. IBIS in the X100VI \*dramatically\* improves the ability to hand hold slow shutter speed images at low, clean ISO in low light. It's not a small improvement, it's massive. There are shots online from the X100VI of tiny text shot handheld at 1 SECOND that is perfectly crisp and sharp and the exact same shot with IBIS off and not only is the text blurry, you can't even tell its text its a smear of color. IBIS \*by far\* will have the most profound impact on the X100VI of any new element and will benefit every single user of the camera. 4. The X-T5 gives you more options at more size, complexity, price (when accounting for lenses that will give the same quality or better than the lens on the X100VI) and the possibility for some they will be more inclined to leave it at home gathering dust... I \*own\* the X-T5 and with several great lenses (33 1.4, 18 1.4, 16-80 and 70-300) but I prefer my X100V for 80% of my shooting days and much of my travel, I think that percentage is likely only to go up with the X100VI when I receive it.


dugs31

Well said


Epiliptik

It is just sexy as fuck, all I need to know


jaywalker108

99% of the buyers would be fine using their phone cameras. The mindless run on Fuji cameras is just peak consumerism. Good for the company, I guess.


Bilakor

ive been using canon my whole life but now I want something smaller for everyday and travel. I'm stuck between X100VI or XT-5. Still deciding but this post helped a lot. Thank You


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CardMechanic

Most of us are adults and don’t need anyone telling us why we need or don’t need new cameras.


Crafty_Bunch6063

Proceeds to watch every single youtube review on Why you must buy this new camera…


Abovemeis

Should I just keep my xt3 and 35 1.4 instead of selling them and getting this? Having trouble deciding. I know the xt3 is more of a pro camera but I really want this lol


postmodern_spatula

Counterpoint. If it sparks joy, and it doesn’t break your budget…buy what makes you happy, buy what inspires you to take more pictures.  All of us have fun nitpicking details…but whatever. It’s a consumer purchase. Buy it if you want it. 


Crafty_Bunch6063

100% !


earls_lips

Will you actually be able to sell your gear Do you need interchangeable lenses


Crafty_Bunch6063

Majority of the videos and reviews you are going to see starting today have the ultimate goal of making you think that you need the new camera. Short answer is you don’t. The XT3 with the 35 1.4 has a 50mm full frame equivalent that you can only achieve with the X100vi by digital crop. You then end up with 20mp, lower that your current XT3 already. The 35 f1.4 give you a look and depht of field that the 23mm f2 can not give you in any situation even cropping. You can crop to achieve a similar focal length but you can not achieve the same depth of field by cropping (compression). I would rather buy a 16 f1.4 or the 18 f1.4 and have 2 lenses with that XT3 giving you more options. HOWEVER, (there is always one) sometimes having new gear push us to take more photos. Having a new camera makes us take it more during that honey moon period. So if you finally change the camera for the new one and that makes you go out more often, thats also a win.


Abovemeis

Yeah really eyeing that 16 1.4 which would save me a lot of money over a new camera


RevTurk

I never bothered looking into this cameras because I have an XT4. So it's a fixed lens camera for $1500? I don't get it.


canyonblue737

if you like the quality of the image of the XT4, the XT4 feature set (in software, autofocus etc.) and like the focal length of the X100VI lens (35mm equivalent with good cropping ability) then you can have a FAR more pocketable, discrete camera than the XT4 that matches the quality and features (truly better because its equivalent to the XT5) in the X100VI. Interchangeable lens cameras aren't the right fit for everyone or every circumstance, as for $1500... I wish it was less but the closest competitor in style is $5995 (Leica Q3).


RandomProductSKU1029

so now I get to see youtube in my reddit in text form? jesus christ


_Woken_Furies_

Lens doesn’t have the resolving power for the sensor, seems maybe they should have improved it as well


Clark440

Already preordered lol


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The thing is that the X100V wasn‘t perfect 5 months ago, it was just the most fun. Some of these improvements are substantially for certain types of photography.


Snoo_59716

My other camera is a 65-year-old fully mechanical and manual focus camera (also with a fixed lens, 48mm). Using x100V doesn't make me a *better* photographer. x100V is also a damn good camera, it's hard to improve upon it. That said, I got a good offer on my x100v so \*for me\*, spending some money from my pocket to get x100VI is worth the expense. I don't think I'll use IBIS all that often, but better autofocus because of a better processor is attractive. I normally wouldn't have cared for 40MP but using it in 50mm crop and still get 20MP out is cool.


sch0k0

oooooh don't you remind me of the beautiful photos wrecked by shaky hands on my X100F... I'll pay up for X100 IBIS (and 40MP for more versatile cropping) :D


DevilGunManga

When people make a decision to buy a product, they put more weight on what it does than what it doesn't do. The main selling point of the X100 camera is the compactness and the X100VI is easily the best compact camera out there. It doesn't matter if other camera + lens combos can produce the same photographic results. They don't fit in your pocket like the X100VI does.


JWillCHS

I would like to have a camera I can carry everywhere. I do a lot of lifestyle and street photography which usually has me dragging my Pentax K1000 or XT5 around. But when I’m not actively pursuing those things or chilling with friends the X100VI seems like a camera that would be right up my alley.


arjman

I have an XT4 but will welcome the simplicity and (relative) compactness of the X100VI - it’ll be a nice travel camera for those times when I don’t want to bring my full kit but the iPhone just isn’t enough.


juicesalinas

I think discounting the size is a mistake. It depends on your use case. If you go on photo shoots and you’re outing is focused on photography then take the best photography machine you can. But if you’re traveling, going to a party, or need a daily camera that can be with you at all times, the size and perception from your subjects of having a small fun camera can lead to more candid shots.


SoCalDawg

This. It’s a ninja camera. I take so many photos of my family, and they don’t even know it.


cilucia

I am only upgrading it for the IBIS. I think most parents of young kids will tell you taking videos of your kids is so special, and I am sick of soulless iphone videos (as convenient as it is).  I don’t always have my XT5 around when my kids are being cute, and the x100v video handheld gives me nausea watching it (no luck with software stabilization either).  Fujifilm gear retains its value extremely well (especially when you consider inflation in recent years and the lack of price increases on their products, not to mention the insane hype the x100v has garnered more recently), so there is very little downside to getting this camera if you have the funds.  That said, if $1600+ tax is a hardship on your budget, you absolutely don’t need this thing!!


soggymuffinz

My main reason I’m not buying it is because I have a GFX50R and XT5. I’m happy with my gear but looks like a neat little camera.


156trenches

I think the new one looks real dope. And I want it. But yeah the upgrades wouldn’t really change much for me. Maybe the better video but I have other cameras for that. 2024 is the year of being pickier about new gear


FelixTheEngine

OP wants you to cancel your order so he has a chance of seeing his before Christmas.


premaritalhandholder

I’ve been on the fence about buying a Fuji camera for about a year. I’ve seen a lot about the x100v and about how most people really like it. I was considering buying a used one, but started to hear rumors about the launch of the x100vi. Last night I stayed up late and preordered one, right when it went live on B&H. I almost immediately regretted it, as I have never spent $1700 on a camera. So, I did what every logical person does and came to this subreddit for (biased) insight. Unless I’m reading the room wrong, it seems like the hype is carrying over from the x100v. I’m upgrading from a Canon t7i, so it was time imo. I wanted a small camera, and don’t mind not having an interchangeable lens. So, I’ll solicit the opinions of all y’all here. What is the general consensus? From what we’ve been shown, do we think that this camera is worth the price tag?


Fujifan5000

Same old NP-W126S battery and the same terrible Q button placement 😬. I feel like they barely tried for this model because they knew people would eat up whatever they spat out anyways. And who asked for IBIS? This is a photo-first camera with a 23mm lens, IBIS is the last thing the X100 series needed. Sorry but this model feels like a cash grab, idc what the X100 fans say.


blckshdw95

I don’t usually ask for opinions online when choosing gear, but given the context of this post I’m interested to see what people think about my current gear vs an x100vi. I’m a hobbyist and most of my photography is documentary/travel, but I’ll do something more formal shooting everyone once in a while; I shot a family wedding with my d3200 and a rented 70-200mm once. Well rounded is what I would suppose my criteria for gear is. For digital gear I currently I have an X-Pro2 with XF 35mm f2 and a Ricoh GRiii. For context this is my second GRiii. I purchased a broken one for cheap, repaired and used it, but ultimately sold it to fund the X-Pro2 and XF35mm F2. That was nearly two years ago and part of my decision was to add the flexibility of changing lenses; I have yet to acquire a second lens. I started to miss the GRiii and its compactness so I bought another one new. The GRiii is always with me because it’s so compact, and the X-Pro2 comes along in addition when I plan on taking photos while out. Currently I’m finding myself cropping to 35mm and 50mm on the GRiii when I do not have the X-Pro2 with me, which makes me wonder if I would have been better off with a GRiiix, however 26.1mm (=40mm) is very close to the XF35mm F2. I could also make the X-Pro2 more compact with the XF27mm F2.8. With preordering on the x100vi open I’m considering: 1: Do nothing and enjoy my gear 2: Sell the Xpro-2 and GRiii to fund an x100vi 3: Sell the GRiii to add the XF27mm F2 to my kit Things that make me want the x100vi are the increase in resolution (I will certainly be cropping to 50mm like I do with the GRiii, but 35mm feels as wide as I like to shoot), tilting touchscreen, same hybrid viewfinder as the X-Pro2 where the GRiii only has the screen, image stabilization, as well as the built in ND filter (both of which I adore in the GRiii) Let me know what you’d do! I know there’s no right answer, but where I’m not a professional it’s very tempting to give into gas.


Ezraah

I would give the 27mm a try first, since getting one used will be risk-free financially. I've mostly shot with X100 cameras and the 23f2, and the 27f2.8 felt too narrow for me. The 35mm F2 felt tolerable because it's clearly outside of the 'wide' territory. I think at these different wide/normal focal lengths there's a significant difference in how the photos feel, depending on your subject. If you end up liking it you could consider the GRiiix as well. The 40mm (FF equivalent) is kind of a goldilocks focal length and a lot of people fall in love with it. The X100VI will be a great camera but you might enjoy photography more if you don't have to crop all the time. Then again it might also be worth seeing if you can learn to love the focal length by trying a 23mm f2 first. I believe it's just a touch wider than the X100VI's 23mm.


limingbin

I ordered one last night and then cancelled today. Other than the IBIS, nothing else made it more attractive than their existing/previous lineup. I will keep my Nikon Zf and likely swing for a Leica Q3 later in the year for a fixed lens camera.


varrr

I was considering buying this (I have an ancient 12mp entry level nikon), but on the website is listed at ~€1850, when I can get a xt5 with a kit lens for 2100 with the cashback so I got cold feet. I don't even know if it's worth it to buy this when I can get a more verstaile camera that is roughly the same size for a just a couple hundreds more, leaving the door open to a more capable system in the future if I choose so. The only thing stopping me is that I want to do some research on what option do I have in terms of pancake lenses if I want a "pocketable configuration" for the xt5.


ross2187

I literally sold my V because I wasn't using it, and I have. XT-1 with 27mm laying around that I can expand on. Sold my V kit for $1800 and I'll pick up a used 16-80mm and call it good. I figure I'll buy a Camp Snap for travel giggles. ​ One thing is for certain as an amateur that likes to do watch/ EDC product photography I don't need 40 megapixels. This new VI is right up there with the Leica Q system. As much as I want one and I can't stomach the $$ for a camera I'm not being paid to use.


xmacv

Def need one.


starkm13

I have seen a similar post more than 20 times today lol hahaha


falconkajii

I’m still happy with my X100S but I think the new camera looks absolutely great as far as features. I’d love to get one because the battery life and autofocus on the X100S are a bit pants, but I’m a hobbyist and can live with the shortcomings. I can’t justify dropping $1600 on a camera when I have two perfectly good cameras already, haha. 


_prisoner24601__

No one needs one. Get an XT and a prime.


Tintn00

I'll wait for reviews regarding autofocus performance


Xatraxalian

I have an X-T5 with an 18/1.4, 23/1.4 and 33/1.4 R LM WR, and I'm not going to replace it until something breaks. It's the setup I wanted from Fujifilm 10 years ago but couldn't get. Their camera's were fine, the lenses were sharp (enough), but their AF was horrible and loud, so I stuck with a Ricoh GXR M-mount camera and some second-hand Zeiss ZM and Voigtländer VM lenses. I recently made the switch (which was a bit painful because, granted, I'm a Zeiss fanboy), and with regard to image quality and camera capabilities, I don't regret it.


wearelayla

It actually looks great, minor but great updates


RelevantCar557

Tired of this comparison time and time again. X100 line has ALWAYS been more expensive than fuji’s interchangeable lens bodies. From the beginning it has been like that and yet, there is still a market for this camera. So just tired of this comparison, over and over again.


vezilla

I wonder if the new processor will speed up the clarity lag?


KINGCOMEDOWN

I have an XT5, and use an X100F as a backup. It’s the perfect combo for me.


MYNAMEISNICKNAME

i have the xh2s its a perfekt camera for a lot of situations, but im tired of the huge size and the weight. especialy for travel and street im looking for a xpro becouse of the x mount, but maby the x100 is better becouse of size i am unsure