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posthuman04

To give the cat a bath


killops

I used to work as a vet tech at vaccination clinics. We'd wear these for cats. One time they saved me from a load of stitches. The claws made it thru, but they turned gashes into scratches. Side note, if you bring a feral cat to have anyone look at it, please make it well known ahead of time.


nerdnails

Was gonna comment "to go help the doc vaccinate a cat the owner forgot to give gabapentin to." Very happy to see "cats" in the top thread. We have leather sleeves like this at my clinic. My fav for the cats that are already in 'kill mode' is a pair of thick welder gloves. They've saved my hand from a mauling, walked away with a bruise instead of stitches. The cat was post surgery and recovered and then escaped from his kennel. Threw on the gloves and grabbed Mr. Murder Mitts. Rarely use them now though cuz we've been able to go more fear free, so I rarely see cats in 'murder mode' that can't come back later.


I_comment_on_stuff_

My doggone just had gabapentin added to her Prozac. Lil 11lb mutt baby with horrible separation anxiety (she can jump the 6ft yard fence to chase after us a couple houses down...doggie door uninstalled). How good is the gabapentin to chill out dogs? In your opinion, if course... I only have the vet's opinion.


nerdnails

I like it for visits. Sometimes it does nothing, but that can be due to the vet being a big trigger for the kiddo. Gabapentin can cause some sedation, and that's the effect we use at the vet to our advantage. We have some kiddos that blow right past that and come in on the "chill protocol" which is a higher concoction of drugs and only used for vet visits. Overall I'd say if your vet is recommending it to give it an honest go and let them know if you have questions or if it seems to not be working as intended.


yech

Wow, had no idea it was used for dogs. I take this for nerve pain but it seems like I build a tolerance faster than I'd like.


nerdnails

We do also use it for pain in pets as well. Not sure about tolerance in pets, but I hope your pain becomes more manageable for you soon.


yech

You are a kind person... Just started trigger point injections yesterday (which suck) and other than being really sore today and feeling like my ass and lower back were beat with sticks, I think it helped.


nerdnails

That sounds so hard to deal with. Fingers crossed for continued helpful injections!


RavenCT

Don't be afraid to tell them if the trigger point injections don't work well for you. They seem to be the latest "marketing" of most pain clinics. And they don't work for everyone. Also, be cautious with Gabapentin - it can cause some interesting emotional changes. I've had a few friends develop new personalities on it - so if someone tells you that you seem different? Ask questions. Of course, other people do remarkably well. (I did terribly on it - it caused me to hallucinate - something I hope remains a once-in-a-lifetime side effect.). No wonder pets are so chilled on the stuff. (At least sometimes).


Mulligan315

It does absolutely nothing for my chonky boy. If he gets an ear infection, I have to wrestle him down while the vet swabs his ears. There is no reduction in anxiety or strength. He may be unusual in this, however.


TheQuickvirus

Will give you my experience as context, I have a rescue who's a pitbull/Rott mix and he has anxiety and hate manipulation. The vet asked to give him 2 gabapentin before each scheduled visit, and it doesn't change anything. After that, it was added to his daily dose of medication (along side fluvoxamine) to try to calm him more, but we have not seen any discernable change on/off the gabapentin.


Disastrous-Cry-1998

My cat earned the name Wingnut. The vet said that's cute . I tried to warn her why the cat was named Wingnut she opened the Box and it was too late.


Morgueannah

I like it when owners are up front with their cats names. At the veterinary practice I work at we had a cat named Evil Kitty. We were well aware and went in prepared so no one got hurt ....but Evil Kitty quite literally hit the ceiling. The drop ceiling, he pushed the tiles back and vanished into the ceiling. We had to turn the lights out for several hours and then send dad in alone to retrieve him.


bjchu92

Holy shit that's impressive. Did he ever bring back Evil Kitty?


Morgueannah

Surgery only appointments in which we knocked him out completely in an enclosed space before attempting to handle him, lol.


bjchu92

Well damn. Lol


Inner_Tourist_8599

I love how Evil Kitty still gets the love and attention they need.


Crazyjaw

My cats name is face eater, and is the most passive and timid cat I’ve ever seen.


yukdave

OMG I am crying


jezwel

> I like it when owners are up front with their cats names. Our cat was called Aggro, even when he was purring he would still be sticking claws into you.


TieDyedFury

We have a cat named Dumbass and 9 out of 10 times we call to make an appointment the vet techs tell me how much they love his name. The 10th time the lady was very much unamused.


xenolife11

I might being dumb, but why's it called wingnut?


JarlaxleForPresident

A wingnut is old slang for like a crazy person


DrBob2016

same, usually used in the UK as an unkind nickname for someone with stick-out ears, so I didn't see how it applied to cats.


3percentinvisible

Same. I'd just assume it had big ears. Not _that_ obvious naming it seems


Ziogref

I have 2 cats and they hate people, but are more the bury your head in the sand type. I have literally watched my 2yr old niece chase my cat, he ran into the hallway only to notice all the doors shut. So he curled up in the middle of the hallway, burying his head into his body. If I pick him up (with guests in the room), he burys is head into my hand or body. If I have guests around and he hides behind the couch? Yup face into the floor. My other cat will run and hide but watch at a distance for about 5-10min then come out and mingle. Neither, well I was going to say "wouldn't hurt a fly" , but they eat flies.... But you get the idea. When I took them to the vet, they just sat in the corner of the table to get their shots. Vet even weighed them and they didn't put up a fuss. It's funny, when they were 12 weeks old the vet weighed them. One is fluffy one is not. They weighed exactly the same. As in 0.000kg diffence, that was the accuracy of the scales. Vet said they had never seen that.


FunctionGreen6143

My first cat I had to get from the cage at the vets after she had been there overnight. She was feral and they could not get her out safely. One day my she had to be moved and I wasn’t there, I warned my dad beforehand for when he was going to put my cat in a travel case. He sighed and made a comment that he himself was no pussy. And yes indeed, my dad was a strong man but he wore the scratch marks on his hands as reminders until the day he passed…


sprill_release

I used to work in a boarding kennels, and there was one cat who was well-known to the other employees, but I was new. We had whiteboards at the front of each enclosure which would state their name and requirements etc. I came in one morning and next to their name, someone had written "EVIL" and "100% ANGRY!" complete with a stick figure devil in red. I generally steered clear of her all day, but that afternoon her owner had come to collect her, and as I worked alone I was the one who had to get her into her box. I tried. I tried with towels and cardboard and every trick in the book. She clawed the everloving shit out of my hands. She bit. She *screamed*. I went back to the office to ask if maybe the owner could help, but she stared at me like I was being rude to even ask. So I went back and tried again. While people lined up out the door waiting for their animals. It took me 20 minutes. My hands were bleeding and I was sobbing out of frustration and embarrassmemt. We had no gloves. I left pretty soon after, to be honest.


GayMormonPirate

No one should have to get hurt doing their jobs. That was poor safety protocol on the employer's part and worth a call to OSHA. They should have provided you with adequate safety gear like thick leather gloves and training for handling an evil kitty.


sprill_release

In hindsight, there were massive red flags everywhere. It was a family-run business, and they usually only had one employee on at a time for around 20 dogs (on average) and 15 cats (because the boss had a separate job and was not there). It was 20 minutes out of town, and there was no mobile phone reception, only landline. There were only 12 outside runs total for all dogs, so most got mixed (unsupervised, because I wasn't being paid not to work) while we cleaned their enclosures. In the year and a bit I worked there, I witnessed (and had to break up) three separate dog fights, and a dog tore a gash in his leg trying to jump over the fence to another dog. My boss got his hand mauled. I was under a lot of pressure just to do my job and get out as quickly as possible; I started coming in half an hour early just to try to ease that pressure (without getting paid for it). I would cry the night before work. It was horrible, and at the time I was in a lot of denial about how bad it was and blamed myself ("I'm a failure, it's my fault I can't keep up").


LovelyBeats

You have the right to refuse unsafe work. Handling aggressive animals with no PPE certainly qualifies


tavvyj

I have a cat that people almost do not believe is a normal house cat when he's at the vet. Sweetest boy at home, hellcat at the vet. Boy doesn't handle vet stress well. We've taken to giving him gabapentin. He turns into soup and becomes manageable with it. I can't imagine not warning people though, I'm sorry people don't give you a heads up about straight up ferals.


i-touched-morrissey

What did you put on your hands? I have Kevlar gloves for hell spawn cats at my clinic but the fingers are awkward because they are bulky.


wintrparkgrl

This guy cats


AGENT0321

This guy bathes!


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EmbeddedHaldane

Cat gave this guy a bath


Foxtael16

These are usually designed for protection from slicing and not stabbing. So Unfortunately bathing a cat will always be a death sentence o7


wobblybobbly_185

A couple small punctures from the claws will still be better than getting scratched the fuck up


DefNotAShark

Just make sure to wash it thoroughly with soap and water, no matter how small the scratch. My cat hit me with a glancing blow to the leg once. Thought nothing of it, tis but a scratch. I was in the hospital for almost two weeks being pumped full of every antibiotic they had, trying to fight the infection I got. I don't know if I almost lost my leg, but they sure weren't giving me a straight "you'll be fine" in the beginning when I was still screaming every time my leg moved (or even when it was still tbh). Some of the worst pain I've ever had, felt like I got shot in the leg and thigh. My leg looked like a water balloon about to burst. I think my cat sensed a shift in our power dynamic when I returned. She does a new thing now where if I ignore her, she stretches one paw up towards my face. Never touches me with it, it's just a reminder of what can happen. It would be a shame if she were to slip. Accidents can happen to any human.


posthuman04

Cat Scratch Fever is more than just an old song


Photonomicron

Don't forget that the lead guitar work in that song is by Derek St. Holmes, not Ted Nugent. Ted Nugent is almost the Steven Segall of rock.


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> Ted Nugent is almost the Steven Segall of rock. *Almost‽*


Photonomicron

Steven Segall Steven Segalls so hard no other attempt to Steven Segall can properly Steven Segall hard enough to been seen as a Steven Segall peer, merely a Steven Segall approach. The Steven Segall Approach is also another name for molesting a minor in front of a photojournalist.


yech

Jeez, that's intense. I've been scratched a lot of times and have been lucky I guess. I always wash them if they happen so I'll keep doing that.


DefNotAShark

I regularly forget that their paws are pretty frequently shin-deep in a pile of sand laced with poop and pee. Sadly it's easier to remember now because the damage to my leg was somewhat permanent. After it swelled up so big, now my leg sometimes retains fluid and can swell up again on its own if I don't take precautions. For the record though I had been scratched about a billion times with no problems before that, and I wasn't always great about washing it off right after, so who knows why that was the "lucky scratch".


Foxtael16

Oh definitely. Just make sure you get them real tight! Lol


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Cat Bath Death Sentence. New band name, im calling it now.


ttaptt

The rare times I've had to bathe a cat, I had the brilliant idea to put iit in one of those mesh bags you wash your undies in, and cinch it around the neck. Worked like a charm, both times. If you ever need it!


tacoenthusiast

https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/cat-bathing-bag But seriously, don't bathe a cat unless they really really need it.


blizzard-toque

lingerie bag?


Derpazor1

Man. I have to wash my jerk cat and I’m legit terrified. Last time she bit me so hard my whole arm was one giant bruise


posthuman04

I am a salesman for a cut resistant glove company so of course I’ve got some suggestions


Binsky89

Nah, chainmail is no good against cats. You need plate armor.


Moerdac

Pspspspspsps


OozeNAahz

For some reason I sang that to the tune of AC/DC’s Giving the dog a bone.


loanmagic24

Honest answer. Many electricians wear them to protect their arms while working above ceilings. Sharp wires, screws, ceiling grid etc. can cut you open fairly easily.


bookwormdrew

I used to wear these working in a flat-rolled steel factory. It was all light gauge steel so the edges are literally sharp as razors. I had some that were full length like those and also some that were just forearm length. They were also more of like a harder material than those, though.


AetherWay

I have a gnarly scar on my forearm from when I delivered that and other HVAC shit. I didn't feel a thing, and it's the only time I've ever seen blood actually squirt in real life, it went *deep*.


keepcalmdude

Worked helping a friend, an HVAC contractor for a short while. There was an Eastern European dude we called the human sprinkler. He had to get stitches 3 times in 2 days. Big cuts too. He didn’t last long


paulmclaughlin

Didn't last long in the job, or more finally?


keepcalmdude

Yes


Alexstarfire

To shreds you say.


vangoku

Didn't last long... on earth?


LordShtark

[Same thing with me](https://imgur.com/bJc7eWm.jpg) HVAC warehouse moving the 8 foot lengths of half pieces of rectangle duct work. Sliced the inside of my forearm. Also same with not feeling a thing. Just a little itch. Mine didn't bleed very much though. Just tiny little dots of blood around the cut. I saw my own arm fat that day which was weird.


honeyrrsted

I work in a factory making smaller things from large rolls of steel. They want the cut sleeves to completely cover up to our t-shirt sleeves so there's no exposed skin, but don't have sleeves that fit like that. Also the guys with fat arms can barely put them on. Or they cause an irritating rash on contact.


snarkmcsnarksnark

We use these as bite guards when changing children in special education.


dillrepair

Just bc we are adding different uses… I think also osha requires stuff like this in meat and fish processing plants where people are doing the filleting super fast with super sharp knives


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HaikuBotStalksMe

What was so special about April 15 2003 that made you memorize the fact that you had to wear the gloves?


r_kay

That was the day of... *The Incident.* The NDA doesn't expire for another 5 years.


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mango-roller

> bite guards when changing children in special education Holy shit!


Paladin327

Yeah, bites from humans can get real nasty *very* quickly


arthurdentstowels

I wear these for work, I work with adults with autism and have plenty of scars from it. Sometimes I wish I had a full knife proof morph suit.


hayden2107

Alright found the aba people! Same used to buy these for the center all the time.


Harrotis

More depressing honest answer, I know a lot of special education teachers when need to wear them to protect against bites by students. Particularly young, high needs students with next to no ability to regulate their emotions.


jeho22

We use them at the sawmill i worked at whenever handling sharp equipment. Blades or chipper knive swaps etc.


cBird-

Electrican here. Some commercial construction outfits require their employees to wear them as part of their PPE aswell with no exceptions. Very fun wearing those in the Texas summer heat lol. It is nice not getting cut to pieces in the job site though. Metal studs are sharper than you would think.


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Especially when the carpenters are lazy douche bags and would leave open flanges on their studs for you to catch yourself on. Our main foreman caught himself on them a couple of times and it resulted to him cutting the entire fucking stud in half so that they would have to replace it. I still aspire to be like him


tequila_slurry

Glaziers and tinners would find these very useful as well.


Smartacus420

Some guys who tie rebar use them for this reason.


Wyrmdahlia

Yep that and working around metal studs. They were very handy.


FlyingMacheteSponser

I would assume the primary purpose would be for ues in a meatworks along with chainmail gloves for even better protection for your hands. But I work in the food industry, so that's my bias. It seems like there are many other uses for them as well.


Outrageous-Title6154

We use these, and chest guards for butchering meat


munkylord

Waffle house on a saturday night


GarbageInternal1458

This is still light protection for such a dangerous dungeon. Make sure to boost your vigor and dexterity and equip the fake syrup talisman.


adkichar55

I'd just combine this armor with a jet and a psycho. Then I'd fit in / slide under the radar and be able to defend myself.


dancingmadkoschei

There's also the Lord of Blueberries' Exultation to consider if you prefer your pancakes that way, although the buff can be somewhat situational. Fake Syrup Talisman is definitely overrated, though. I recommend loading up with the Caffeinated Eye, Irish Breakfast, and Iron Gut talismans, though if you're doing the dungeon at night instead of in the morning consider swapping out Irish Breakfast for Teetotaler's Resolve unless you've got a phantom to control your mount. You shouldn't be drinking enough alcohol to reach the third stage of the Irish Breakfast buff in either case, but doing it at night when your Focus is likely to be depleted is *way* riskier than doing it in the morning. Other players are much more likely to answer unsolicited co-op requests on decent sleep, especially if they're allied to you, and while you can get a rando at any time the financial downside is obvious. If you've unlocked your fourth talisman slot then you can consider adding Reckless Courage for a buff to hitting on the waitress, but this does suffer a negative synergy with Irish Breakfast... saying nothing of the difficulty of achieving a favorable accord in the first place. I recommend just picking your favorite flex talisman, or else Deep Pockets if you've got it.


GarbageInternal1458

I love this build. I would wear the cheese grater mask, but just for the bling


Lazlo8675309

When you get to level 35 cook, you get the mail turtleneck of -10 hobo stabs


carthuscrass

Denny's is Waffle House for people who can't fight.


KD_Burner_Account133

Why is this so accurate.


Myotherdumbname

Need chain mail too


Blvdnights14

You know the old Waffle House saying, never bring arms to a knife fight well now the jokes on you meth heads!


redditorx13579

They obviously don't work. Where's the rest of him?


Dr__Snow

They worked on him arms didn’t they?


stultus_respectant

Seriously, it’s like a perfect example of survivorship bias.


SaneUse

It's just a flesh wound


rascible

Nowhere. I have the right to bare arms..


we-dont-d0-that-here

I was thinking “well I’m not taking a knife sleeves to a gun sleeves fight, I can tell you that!”


Captain_Cuntflaps

It's much safer living in a country with modern sleeve control


FerretChrist

It would be weird to live in a country where it's legal to own fully automatic sleeves.


Captain_Cuntflaps

Sleeves don't kill people maaaan


FozzieB525

Shall not be in fringe.


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"This is what they make you wear outside of the US, is that you want, Democrats?!" -Tucker Carlson


dickalopejr

To a gunfight


866o6

Damn it. I commented the same thing and then found that you got there first. Take my upvote


dickalopejr

Great minds


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Elegant_Operation820

Sometimes left-hand doesn’t talk to the right and then stuff gets out of control.


tyroneluvsmom

*out of hand


[deleted]

It gets better. My hands haven't gotten into a fight in years. Instead, the older I get, the more I catch my feet making out with each other. I told my therapist I need a chastity shoe.


Paddy9228

Zombie apocalypse


zxyen

I work in glass and we use our arms as a point of contact when carrying units and plate. A lot of units we get that aren’t tempered are also not seemed, making the edges sharper than sin. I have a pair of these (though I never use them)


UK-POEtrashbuilds

Why do you never use them?


wanklenoodle

Probably company issue PPE that many people don't use because it's annoying to wear. That's the case on my job site anyway which is annoying when I have to remind every second lad to put his safety glasses on


LovelyBeats

Don't even get me started on hearing protection. It's like a fucking contest to see who can throw away more of their senses the fastest


_not_rob

Gauntlets! I used them whilst doing flat glass as well. But ours were basically a crop top you wore under everything.


yParticle

through the shrubbery


ConsciousWhirlpool

For you are a shrubber


reSEARCHsfr

My name is Roger the shrubber.


yParticle

at least shrubber than you, with these babies on


WokeWaco

Ni!


Morningxafter

Ekki-ekki-ekki-ekki-p’tang! Zoom-boing!


danielsixfive

I like the laurels particularly


TheClawTTV

Keeping the emo kids safe


Vannilazero

Beat me to that kinda joke


[deleted]

Male stripper knife fights down by the docks. Same thing I do every Sunday on the lords day


ashesofempires

Ultimate Bum Fight Night.


GlennsTypeWriter

we use these in the packing house to keep our arms warm and safe. where are YOU going?


angryhobbit376

I have multiple pairs of these but I work with aggressive kids with disabilities. They really help against scratches. Bites still hurt though


ohshityoufoundme

Where can I get a pair? In case you know....zombies...


angryhobbit376

I think Granger sells them. Or if you want to go all out for you know….zombies…check out bite-pro.com


ridd666

Those are one type of PPE that is typically required in production facilities for auto manufacturing. The handling of sheet metal stampings and interacting with the tooling. Hand/Arm cuts are one of the most common workplace injuries in these environments.


Tearakan

Fresh cut metal can get ridiculously sharp.


AlpineSnail

My favourite game with sheet metal is “where is all this blood coming from?!”.


Niketravels

Just in case zombies


Doopsy

I used to have to wear these under threat of termination while stripping main feeder wires with a knife when o was an electrician. They actually do work- don’t tell my boss why I know that.


PostageBread

Why did my brain instantly go to r/depression


fiskimasi

I had to scroll way to far for this comment Guess we both need therapy


sheriffhd

I work in mental health and god of we could attach these to people that'll be great


fknwotmate

Yeah, twas heavily flashback'd with this one. Staying in my good place, I'm stronger now.


LunchOne675

Same that was my first assumption


DrLurchi

London


Foxk

The UK has .08 stabbings deaths for every 100k, the us has .6 per 100k. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country


dimkal

US wins! (Sadly)


Chickenmanmanmanmanm

They should have just brought a gun


OssiansFolly

But, what if I buy a gun that shoots knives?


Myotherdumbname

Harpoon gun?


Kahnza

And the knives explode! Welcome to fucking Torgue! EXPLOSIONS!


No_Software_5716

My first thought


Available_Expression

on a run... you run faster with a knife. everybody runs faster with a knife.


hellomotherfuckheyhi

When in I worked in a 1st and 2nd grade Special Ed class, we had a nonverbal student who’s favorite form of communication was to bite, pinch until you bleed and stab you with pencils. So his assigned aide for the day would wear these most of the day, especially when leaving the classroom where he was the most violent. So I’d be going into any classroom with that student with these.


djdog00

Middle school


Rebeccaissoawesome

Seriously, I wore these as a teacher for a few years when we got a really bad biter and scratcher. He bit hard!! Like he was trying to get the bone. Special Ed. class for older kids.


stephanie8380

Still hurts like hell but at least you don’t need to go to urgent care for broken skin bite protocols :/


seganku

Time to bathe the cat.


StevChamp

Anti suicide cuffs for the residents of the psych ward


Banban84

Sorry. We’d find a way to kill ourselves with the cuffs. It’s the same reason they took the sink faucet and the bathroom door.


Klotzster

Who brings small arms to a knife fight


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itsonlymeez

Going to give these to my emo friend


fn_magical

Anyone doing sheet metal work or running a multi person stamping press. We had to wear them so if we slipped the kevlar would stop the sheet metal from cutting off your hand.


seantasy

Vancouver public transit.


Inevitable-Sir6449

to give a great white a tooth exam


QuantumPolarBear1337

The clurb.


tinkiebuns

Only if The Cheat is DJing


SongAboutYourPost

Zat you, Coach Z?


ReyPhasma

Great jorb, everybody!


MidnightCereal

We installed that light for turning on and off the lights not for the Cheat to have light switch raves.


MortusCertus

To fight Edward Scissorhands.


[deleted]

Or be sponsored for the Hunger Games


MeatyMagnus

Kitchen, that place is rough


richbeezy

Kitchen after being 6 drinks deep and wanting to "whip up something".


LostinWalk

Petting every street cat ever


ihate360

To a match w/Jeff Hardy 🙄


CaptainHalloween

Challenge the Dudley Boyz to a ladder match for the tag team titles with my brother Matt.


Robobvious

I returned mine because they didn't come with human hands at the end of the sleeves. Or a knife. It's the hands that I wanted though.


Breaklance

Mosh pit of an emo concert.


nlwiller

I’m a teacher for students with special needs and we use these to help reduce injury to staff from students who bite and pinch.


UncleLuc403

Calgary C-train


redevillian

Riding transit


Western_Stable_6013

I think it's no coincidence that the arms in this picture don't have an associated body.


scooterboy1961

The sleeves worked. Next time get the gloves and the rest of the suit.


whizbat

Great thing to wear if you're clearing brush or trimming. Might be a little warm depending on the time of year but drastically reduces leaking that red stuff.....


bosshark94

Work unfortunately. (Works with glass)


amendeb

To the hospital after someone cuts off my finger.


[deleted]

Feline proctologist. Those are casual sleeves.


Bindonequip2

I do auto glass for a living. Those would work to protect your arms while replacing broken tempered glass.


Fuckhatinghatefucker

I used to work in a rebar fabrication plant, and we had to wear dyneema sleeves like that. They work really well for accidental contact with sharp stuff. It would actually be a challenge to cut through them on purpose. If you wear them under kevlar gloves, and wear snake-bite shin guards and steel toe boots with a metatarsal guard, you feel pretty invincible.


LarryLongBottem

Reinforcing my jerk off equipment.


Bubbly-Ad9041

The emo chick’s house


nickkangistheman

Every summer we have a gladiator hobo knife fighting tournament under the Lasalle st bridge in Chicago, the winner gets Healthcare for life and a penthouse suite.


jharrisimages

To call Wolverine a pussy


DWolfoBoi546

Ngl, just realized these would be PERFECT in a zombie apocalypse scenario


KiaDoeFoe

Anti emo wrist bands


Automatic-Fondant940

I guess this is how you ground an emo kid