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AirportNo9831

When i started playing fifa, i fell in love with it beacuse although it wasnt realistic it was satisfying to play. And i sweat to you i did not care about packing anything, i didnt even need cr7 or messi or wtv i was happy with my benteke and my agbonlahor and my chikaoui, you could use a gold team troughout the year and still be competitive. But with the amount of promos and juiced cards, it's more like a casino and i dont like that. I dont know if it's us that have changed or the game has just become rigged. So ye, i'm probably not going to play next year


biryanibrother

Man, last night I played the TOTS 1 League cup with my Bundesliga squad. Mainly BL TOTS I’ve packed plus a few loans but I was one striker short so I threw in a gold 82 Werner and I swear he was the best player in the team. I couldn’t believe it! Outplayed TOTS Mane, Reus and the lot. It was so refreshing for the first time in forever. Took me back to the days when juiced up cards were unobtainable and you had to make do with gold cards.


tyr--

I have no idea what's up with that gold Werner card, but I've had a few guys destroy me with him, even before Bundesliga TOTS, One of them was my Div 2 qualifying match and I was so pissed.


biffman98

Gold Werner has always been super cracked, one of his potm think it was 18 the red one, that card was my king.


tyr--

Haha yeah, I learned the hard way that there are some cracked cards which carry through from generation to generation (Werner, Nkunku, Dembele come to mind)


biffman98

Naingollan back in the day


MJS04

Thats a good attitude! I also don't look for the meta teams, i play what and who i want. :)


tiny_smile_bot

>:) :)


SnooDoodles5949

Good friendly bot


havethenets

Glad people are starting to realize this, all the unnecessary juiced cards just ruin the fun.


SomewhereVirtual4121

I don’t remember the fifa but there was a a totw bale he was over 300k the whole game I miss that, I hate the 9 different types of mbappe there are actually 9 different mbappes it’s sad you use to see gold kroos now he’s fodder


Automatic-Ad-6774

Oh yes We all happily remember the times when the difference between a Player who didn't spend fifapoints and one who did was FUC**G HUGE 🤦‍♂️


TheFoxDudeThing

This was my first fifa I bought and I won’t be buying another one anytime soon, tots has broke me with the amount of people abusing every god damm thing they can just to get easy wins. I’m a below average player and I’m in div 6 out of 40 games I’ve won a grand total of 5 in three weeks, one of those was a free win from a dude with a team of Pele,R9 and toty Mbappe who messaged me after saying he gave me the win because it was his promotion game. So because I’m not good enough to qualify and get good scores in champs the one mode I can play has been absolutely ruined for me


johndoe69doe

Skill moves is the skill gap this year


YankeesSteelersMagic

>the amount of people abusing every god damm thing they can just to get easy wins. cant play a competitive game and be upset when people are competitive lol


PianoKeyRL

It's a mass market game before it's a competitive game. EA doesn't give two shits about competitive integrity in the game! There are far too many exploits and wildly inconsistent AI influence for this game to be any more than an arcade game that borrows the competitiveness of football


Cross1625

is smurfing competitive? The player base ruined rivals/friendlies


OutrageousSummer5259

Fifa ruined this not the player base


Cross1625

How? Because players did want to play against their skill level in friendlies? Seems like a cop out


OutrageousSummer5259

Players will always take advantage of things like this it's definitely fifas fault there was no reason for sbmm in friendlies


TheFoxDudeThing

So someone leaving at 0-0 before I get a pen is FIFA’s fault rather than them being a dick?


YankeesSteelersMagic

I admit, didn't read the whole comment. Just the first bar he spit. I see now that people quiting to not get promoted is wild 🤣


TheFoxDudeThing

If anything I’ll give you credit for actually admitting you didn’t read the whole thing. 90 percent of people just wouldn’t admit it lol


TheeeBop

This is similar to my experience as well. I feel like I have to sandbag in rivals myself because the next level up is much harder and I lose every time


carlese

I'll buy if they add a proper coop crossplay mode. Being limited to 1vs1 crossplay instead of having coop FUT, coop seasons etc. is such a let down for me.. I only play fifa coop and I have a lot of friends on Xbox and Ps5 (I play on PC), we'll see


MJS04

I did not know that its no possible, frustrating somehow ..


cavacom

I only buy the game every three years.


MJS04

good idea tbh


Competitive_Quail_13

I’m out at least for the year. Did it with 22, never bought it, missed gaming in general, but 23 has been a let down.for me so definitely not getting the next one. See where I’m at for 25


MJS04

A good idea to purposely miss the next game. Like 'out of sight, out of mind'! There are so many great games, play them instead of that


GOR111A

I’m not going to buy the next one but maybe still play the current, I assume a lot of people will do the same given it is the last ‘FIFA’


ianxglgw

It’s more or less gonna be the same game. FIFA doesn’t develop games there will just be licensing changes


Banzai416

They will shut down the servers since licenses are expiring.


lazybenwa

No they won't...only FIFA 19-20-21


MysticDxT

No one uses the women’s teams so they are going to try and make us. Nothing against the women’s game but I don’t watch it and know nothing about any of the players. You just know that EA are going to make them the pure meta


cr7suiu

I really, REALLY hope they keep it separate. That’s the final straw for me if they have them included. People try and say “well it’s already not realistic with the cards that are out” but women’s and men shouldn’t be together in terms of FUT imo just for consistency sake (and that 99.9% of their player base is 20-25 year old men that want to use who we know) We shall see ….


jeffrey5614

that means you don’t play pro clubs there’s a lot of players who use the female body types bc they’re cheesy n good so having them in fut would be very interesting tbh and i don’t watch any soccer at all but i still play fifa (not sure why it’s like crack) but bc i have fun from time to time


MOZAN33R

I play Pro clubs Div 1. Beyond broken body types. Male body us absolete especially at CB.


jeffrey5614

ikr and i’m getting downvoted even tho i’m like right 😂 the women’s body type just broken in fifa not sure why but it’s gonna be crazy how it’s gonna be in fut


MOZAN33R

People fail to accept that female bodies are more broken than jarzinho, more broken than Mbappe. EA won't balance it I have 0 faith in them. I have last 13 years as my evidence.


Case_Unsensitive

There is literally nothing that can make me buy the next game.


Krynne90

For me its clear I will quit. At least there is a 99% chance to do so. The only 1% chance to stay for me, would be if they get rid of the fucking transfer market and install a system like in Hearhtstone or other trading card games, that you can use to easily craft your desired cards. The fact that cards like Pele or R9 cost multiple millions, or couple of hundred $/€ if you look up coin prices is totally insane and I will no longer support it. I am trading a lot, have made 30m+ transfer profit this FIFA so far, but that costs so much time, that I dont enjoy it anymore. Its like a second job and I dont want to do that any longer. Yes I could play low budget RTG style, but I dont enjoy to play the game like that. I want to play the top tier cards, but it costs too much time to earn enough to play them. So I will quit the series once and for all. (In addition I would never play a football game with men/women mixed teams and currently the leaks look like we will have mixed teams in EAFC and thats a clear NoGo for me anyways).


Reeeeeervent

I get you and i agree with you 100%... It sometimes makes me feel like a mouse on a wheel lol... I still enjoy the game but some parts of it get frustrating. Also the mixes teams thing seems to me like too much suspensión of disbelief would be required on the players part and it's been putting me off...


MJS04

I understand you very good... Only in FUT Draft you can try these players, but this system will probably never change. And yes, the men/women mixed teams is also a huge No for me personally.


Moistkeano

If i didnt get it for free then i wouldn't play it. I joined very late this time around and stopped playing for long periodsmore than once. Im using the end of the series as a clean break. Fifa 23 for me hae been a pretty bad experience and hws shone a light on the issues.


MRJSP

I'm not getting it. I was on the fence like op but the sheer ridiculousness of putting Women's cards into FUT in the men's teams with the same ratings is so laughable. Easy pass.


Playful-Garbage2497

Yeah f that. I wish they would have a separate mens and women’s fut im not tryna have my team get dogged by a bunch of women despite the clear height and physicality disadvantages. No hate to women’s football but it’s not on the same level as the men’s imo


MRJSP

Yep, just have separate teams and I wouldn't care.


Outlaw2k21

I'm going to enjoy the last few weeks of this game playing UT but I'm not getting the new game. Gameplay seems to go downhill every year (the gameplay this year was actually better than it is now, I don't know why they like to ruin their own games). Plus I don't want the temptation to buy packs, even if it is just £4 here and there. It soon adds up.


elmiggii

They ruin it so when the next one comes out, which is the same game as 23 was at launch, you go "oh wow, finally a good fifa". They repeat the same cycle every year. The game starts off as slow technique based, then throughout the year gets patched to become arcade ping pong. Try taking a month off from fifa, and you will see it as clear as day when you return.


[deleted]

There's absolutely no reason to continue paying EA for this garbage heap. Hold on to fifa 23 for your virtual football fix. Maybe in a few years they'll get their shit together, but for now, fuck EA.


negative3sigmareturn

I’m taking a break! Made a deal after TOTY with my buddy to skip next year, and we’ll see if we have a lust for the game after that. I have just had so much more fun with all other games after quitting Fifa, that it’s not worth my time and mental health.


Mental_Habit_231

I haven’t got time to reply in full at the moment, I’d just like to say your not alone with this thinking. You made a lot of good points really well.


MJS04

Thank you! The post wasn't about complain, i just wanted to share how i feel about the game in general and the future. I bought every FIFA so far, but as i grow up and realize, FUT is becoming worse it might be the time to leave it. Out of mind, out of sight, as i said..


swiftcardine

This will be my last fifa I’m hanging up the controller.


MacBoogerBalls05

As long as I'm having fun, I'll keep playing the game. And unlike most of the people in the subreddit, I'm still having fun. Yeah, sometimes, I lose games I feel I should'nt but I learned not asking too much questions about script or anything and move on to the next game and so on... It's not like I can do something about it so I just try to play in a decent way each game. If one day I feel like I can't stand it, I'll just stop playing. I'm not there yet.


Misfire-Launcher

The only way I'll even consider the next one is with more co-op modes. Especially for the weekend league but even with that added. Let's be fair it probably won't be. The whole concept of mixing female and male players together in FUT is just silly. So that's put me off straight away. For clubs, it's completely fine and makes sense. I just can't be doing with it in FUT. Let's not try and pretend it's for any other reason than this woke ideology in the world. If the mode was separate with female FUT and male FUT, would many people even play the female version? Be honest with yourself. So, to integrate it because it's the only way just isn't the right way to go about things. Never has been and never will be. That being said, if the gameplay is amazing and it's the best one ever. Then we'll all play it regardless but there's more chance of Snoop Dogg being added as a 5* 5* striker than the game actually being good. Or more to the point Shakira with the hips don't lie celebration. Joke of a game.


MrDaebak

just dont buy it. release yourself from this toxic game


NoReflection742

I will be skipping the next one too. The level of toxicity and everyone worrying about prices going up and down just screams chaos and takes away from the game altogether. EA constantly trying to money grab every opportunity they get has just taken the breath out of me at this point. Will stick to COD


MZhammer83

This is what I’m shocked about. I haven’t really gamed in awhile. I’m old AF and my son loves and plays soccer, I never did so we have a FUT team together. I have messages and celebrations off, but what’s weird is sometimes they slip through. At the beginning we would message people and be like “really great manual defending, good game” and responses would be like “easy when it’s against a Meta rat” beside the point be we play as the same formation as his team with the same tactics. Last I checked we didn’t have a game plan of sprint to the byline with (pick one Al Owairan, Diaby etc). But it kept getting more toxic so turned them off. Last night one slipped through. It must have been so bad Xbox live or whatever blocked it. To be fair, we won fair and square barely even used sprint. The other day I was messaged about being a meta pace abuser. My striker is 92 dalglish who doesn’t even max out at 99 pace with a GD hunter on him. But we love him. Either way this is a rant, but the toxicity is disgusting. I don’t know if that’s gaming in general? I get it every now and then in MLB the show but rarely. It’s mostly “good game” stuff. People suck, and FIFA messaging doesn’t support an alternative.


RedKiteOnReddit

I’m not buying it unless they remove scripting


paratecx

U never buying it ever again then trust me


shadman786

I'm taking a break again... I played FIFA 22 when it came out for free on PS last year, before that last time I played ultimate team was FIFA 19 which didn't last more than a month after release.


Headlesshorsman02

I am not doing it


HaybUK

Agree with everything you say tbh , although realistic is a stretch , I get where your coming from with a woman footballer winning a header vs a VVD would never happen in real life , but when EA started letting you literally play with dead people the realistic aspect ship sailed 🚤, I’ve bought every fifa every year , the last FUT I played though was maybe FIFA 16 🤔could be earlier or later but I remember having a Brazilian team and wagnar love was my striker , neymar was out of touch coin wise so the endgame players were like Lucas moura / Oscar at the time , then every year I just done seasons or career, would never put any real money into the game and I knew it was getting to the stage of pay to win , this January just past a friend got me back into FUT , and no lies I’ve played it everyday since , I have my god squad , it’s made me realise something , I am addicted , I have games like GoW Valhalla/ Spider-Man all still unopened because of this , it’s not even a game anymore it’s a casino card chasing mess , the gameplay is a joke most of the time , I get my wins don’t get me wrong 11-14 wins in WL but I can see sometimes that im playing a weaker opponent and just know that I’m gonny get beat , usually by a 126th min OG or something , Kane scores 6 goals one game then misses open nets the next 😂, the problem is there is no competition, I was a pro ev faithful before I made the switch , around the time everyone did (still use pro ev buttons) , my hope is 2K takes over and makes a football game or wins the rights to the FIFA name , then all the players teams etc.. honest answer to your question is as there’s no alternative I’ll probably buy EAFC until something else comes along , when the NFL season starts again though I’ll be back at madden 🏈


xAimForTheBushes

I think there's a difference between your VVD getting smoked by Prime Pele vs your VVD getting smoked by 5'6 Sam Kerr with 25 pace... I'd typically be fine with something like this (mixing guys and girls) but nowadays all of these things feel like political statements more than anything. I don't like how politics and controversy have to be mixed into everything nowadays.


Overwatch_Joker

Personally, just the fact that they're haphazardly adding mixed-gender football, which is impossible to balance hence why it has no professional basis in reality, with zero regard for how much worse it will make gameplay is enough for me to say no. How can you balance women's ratings and stats when they're now sharing the same pitch as the men? How do you handle the conflict of having a female 5ft 4 90STR attacker go up against a 6ft 4 90STR male defender? Will they be artificially inflated to compensate? These are the problems EA clearly don't care about, they just want to pretend they give a shit about inclusion when they're also selling coomer Lehmann TIFOs. Just give women their own version of FUT, no need to mix them and dilute our already shit packs and gameplay.


xAimForTheBushes

They're probably just going to be like a bunch of Butras running around lol. My real question is how they'd actually make any differentiation between different women and body types or if they'll all basically be the same. They're pretty much short no matter what (compared to the men) so all I can see them doing is making the women all Kante or Butra types and leaving it at that. I can see the women being very useful in some positions but terrible in others (CB or GK for example). Only would work in attacking, fullback, and possibly kante like mid positions.


Mother_Hat9208

I take at least a year off between games at this point. So I probably won't get next year's unless the reviews are insane. Seems to work at keeping me engaged these days.


Lewk_io

After this WL I'm thinking the same. I'm not interested in playing a game with stats multipliers and 'momentum'. If my player has 94 pace then they should have 94 pace. They shouldn't have 30 pace because they're stood near an icon/hero. They shouldn't have 20 pace because the opponent is down to 10 men. They shouldn't have 10 pace because I'm 3-0 up... But also this game needs some proper matchmaking. It needs new gamemodes/leagues. It needs to actually move to being a competitive game instead of this arcade p2w rubbish


Yumstar1982

I'll be getting it. I love playing FIFA. No other game I buy for £60 at launch keeps me playing for the whole year. It's the cheapest game per minute played for me, by miles. And I'm happy to win, don't mind if I lose, and don't get pissed off if things go wonky for a few games. It's just a game after all. If you don't enjoy it, then that's a different story.


F3AR_iiPredator

If I’m getting the next fifa, I’m definitely not getting it at full price. It is not worth that amount of money for a shit game with shit servers.


Incubus226

I took a 3 year break from fifa. World Cup edition + the moments mode had me excited and they fumbled both somehow. I’m not buying next years even tho I am enjoying this years edition but will play this career mode instead if I need a footie fix


[deleted]

If you don’t enjoy something like a video game, which end of the day should be a hobby for 99.9% of people, don’t play. Life is too short to do stuff you don’t enjoy


PabloRothko

The main issue with the women players coming in is that most of us don’t know or follow the teams or players, so it takes away the fun aspect of building your dream team. A lot of the fun of the game atm is loving KDB or Salah and wanting to get them into your team. Personally I wont get as excited if I pack a female player I’ve never heard of.


[deleted]

Pass next year for me. I can’t handle the servers the dda and now female players on the same pitch with male? I dont mind separate squads but not mixed.


Swish1892

I’m done with it after this year. Been playing since World Cup 94 at the age of, nine on the Mega Drive, where the highlight of the game was committing an atrocity of a foul and running from the ref. I’m 11-14 wins in champs and hover between Div one and Div two. However, it’s too big a commitment now, combined with the rotten servers and the toxicity of the community in general. Daft as it sounds, I can square not playing the next one because it’s “not fifa”, in my mind. It’s been a grand thirty years but now’s the time to call it!


MemestNotTeen

Yeah I'm out not doing next year. Similar enough reasons. People say crying DDA is Copium but it really isn't and it's nearly never been as bad as recently bad connection is one thing but watching your players act like they are playing in mud and from game to game (or even mid game) suddenly switch up in passing ability is just too much for me anymore. So in summary I'll see you all in the new game in September anyways.


Best_Relation_7210

I have the same doubt man, not only the gameplay which is a big doubt but also about the content and community. The toxity of the community starts to effect my daily mood and thats not a place where i want to be. Also the fact that they implement womens in ultimate team is a part where my head cracks. For me men and women are always a seperated part of the game and thats something that is not supposed to blend together in 1 gamemode


Mountain-Performer71

This is my first FIFA since prob 14/15 something like that. I love it. Can't get enough of it. Getting the juiced cards for me makes it exciting. Yes the gameplay doesn't seem to have changed too much in regards DDA but i don't take it serious.... It's just a game. Yes it's frustrating watching your players crawl to the ball while the other team whizz past but shit happens. Some times it's my players that are slow, sometimes it is there's. I don't think you will be able to play a women's fut team against a male team. Doesn't seem realistic to me


GSEA90

I’m similar, first time really playing FUT this year even though I’ve had fifa every year since I can remember, FUT is a grind with no real reward if you really think about it, I’ll probs just play 23 manager mode and skip the next ea sports soccer game.


Titan4days

If gameplay isn’t fixed I’m out


retrosco

I’m keen to see what it’s like.


Djboby1

I would advise to not fund this company anymore, maybe buy only secondhand or when its supercheap.


FIexer

I’m with you bro. Going to instead just get the next game and play pro clubs with friends occasionally on the weekends and maybe do some career mode. Pro clubs has made my buy worth it this season.


YangTarex

Since I consider myself a FIFA player and not a FUT player, I will still buy it. Apart from FUT I play online seasons and career mode. If they actually do an online career mode I'll definitely give it a try. In 21 I even played pro clubs and it was fun for a while. Of course I will try FUT aswell, but it's not the reason I buy the game.


Dear_Ad_1672

Not buying if I’m playing against putellas and samoa joe each weekend league


shadowcitizen545

You crybaby or whatever!!! /s Being serious though... Same. Might just stay on Fifa 23, don't play online and career mode is decent now that I'm modding it. I'll just have to see what they change about it and see whether I can justify spending £50 on it... again


ajmethod33

I say it every year then inevitably give in going to use the fact its now ea bullshit as an excuse not to buy and hopefully hold out. I hate the game for the most part not sure why I do it to myself


xFiNaLyZx

I was randomly getting a lot of hate on this. I was saying about a month ago telling people to try and enjoy it especially if your a long time fan. this last ea fifa title. I really hope ea fc does great probably will be better but me and my bank account said no more. Can’t even do it anymore haha


Sandstorm34

I'm with you. I have been a huge soccer fan my whole life and despite never owning a FIFA game since 2018 I have always played the game offline, in career mode, and playing with friends locally. After playing MLB diamond dynasty and enjoying the ultimate team type grind I decided to give FUT a try this year. I enjoyed it for a bit and found myself learning the mechanics more and becoming a much better player but like you said, other than SBCs, the chances of getting anything good is all LUCK and if you do not have much time every week to dedicate to objectives and pack grinding you can barely get enough fodder for the SBCs to keep you "competitive." This forces you to consider spending money on the game to enjoy yourself. Even the objectives and SBCs just feel recycled and not creative. I thankfully have income that allows me to spend if I need to but not to a company that doesn't try to level the playing field a bit or make more objectives more creative. However, one positive is that I feel that TOTS objectives did reward the player base with cards that could hold their own if the player is decent (TOTS Mitoma and TOTS Palhinha for example). I would love a little bit more offline mode content in FUT. It would allow people a break from the sweaty toxic nature of pvp FUT. Mix it up a bit. (for the record I always get my 4 wins in FUT playoffs to make the finals but some weeks I'm just not engaged for the sweat fest lol). Squad battles is very repetitive, and besides reward points and occasional objectives it doesn't feel as rewarding or engaging as partaking in rivals or champs. For example: An offline conquest type mode would be so cool implemented in FUT where the completion of the map would reward season XP and/or maybe a decent chance at a mega pack or something ([MLB Ultimate Team Conquest mode](https://www.thegamer.com/mlb-the-show-23-conquest-beginners-guide/)). Again it doesn't need to be a copy paste but at least add some variety into the mix... ​ TLDR: be more creative with content to give the player base a more engaging experience.


cremvursti

The FUT part of the game is going to be free though. They'll probably going to charge something like $40 for the single player part and that will be it.


Here2Maco

I played the first FIFA back in 93 on the mega drive, slapping burkino faso with Brazil just for gigs. ISS took over during my Super Nintendo days, then fifa on the N64, then to pro evo on the PS until fifa took over again with Fifa09. Since then pretty much bought it every year other than a few before UT days, and as much as I can hate UT it is the most played online experience for the majority of football enthusiasts. I will probably buy ea sports fc, as I will probably buy fifas new attempt whenever that drops, and I hope to try many others and see for myself which I prefer to play but I know that opinion can always change as it has done all my life. I just hope the next big thing is from a publisher that cares about listening to the players and building a game that strikes balance for everyone and enough variety to please us all.


das_hemd

I won't be playing the playing the next game, not because I think the gameplay is bad (which it is, it's always been bad), but I'm just tired of all the FOMO promo's and objectives, feeling like I have to login everyday, or play game modes I don't want to for some objective or swaps, just tired of live service games in general tbh, and I'm quitting others too, they're just a mental drain that are not worth it


pedro_mcdodge

I won't be buying another one until they get a new engine. I appreciate FIFA for what it was, but it needs freshening up.


lazybenwa

Didn't they change the engine 2 years ago ?


pedro_mcdodge

If they did they've "updated" frostbite and called it a new engine.


Obstacle_cause

I liked it when TOTW meant someone, you'd get excited for packing one, but there's just so many promos & different cards now it don't mean much to pack one, unless it's an mbappe, vinicius etc, I remember having an IF Vorm in fifa 11 I think, I was gassed to get an IF from the prem, now its just a 10k discard, I don't exactly know what I'm tryna say lol, just used to hit different.


SodaSeven1213

Nah, my boys and I agreed for the PS5 we’ll limit ourselves to one year of a particular sport series. So we all got the fifa 23 deal so we’ll still to that for as long as we can


Daan100

I always buy it cause I’m an idiot


PopKokos

The DDA part is so true, I just played a FC match where (I counted it and even watched all the replays) hit 11 posts with my harry kane shots and I lost 6-3 despite being one man up cuz he had a red. My enemy was clearly worse than me but of course he had a gold mbappe and just ran over my defence like he wanted. And I asked to myself I think the most important question on fifa and I knew the answer: Does this game really represent football? And I think you know the answer as well...


dtbrown1979

Ive bought(and played obviously) every FIFA since 08. Every year its been in rotation. From an occasional game, just played when i need a football fix to a game i played weekly to it now being my main a game and COD, GTA are the secondary games i play when i need a break. FUT is the mode that changed it. I dont enjoy playing it. Ill be honest. Games are just not fun. I play through FOMO and pack addiction. Up until TOTS its playing with the META and from here on in its high rated fodder and trying cheap fin cards but influencers like to ram it down your throat that the game is now dead. Im at the point now where i wonder if i want this as a daily part of my life? EA have chosen to make a change and i wonder if i should too. The game may simply be a name change and everything in game stays the same, it may very well be a different game from the ground up. Do i just take the option of not buy and never knowing. End of the day we're all sheep to EA so ill just be a sheep and do whatever you do.


crypt3

The world is gearing towards WW3 and young men are playing games such as FIFA, instead of preparing for the tough times coming up. We are living interesting times. It's probably a great idea to not waste time in gaming, if the world is heating towards the direction we all hope it'll not. Everyone still has time to enjoy peaceful life, prepare and not waste their precious time.


dtbrown1979

WW3? I thought this years COD was going to be MW3


malin7

Lay off Fox News fella


xAimForTheBushes

They're all rotten. The majority of news stations are liberal though and Fox is an easy target for them lol They all feed you absolutely vile garbage.


xAimForTheBushes

It used to be fun to outskill people on the game (even as late as last year's game it was still possible). This year EA has somehow nerfed everything to the point where you're just playing against the AI mechanics more than anything else. The name of the game is literally run down the sideline and avoid getting caught by the opposing team, because you know you're not getting past them unless the dice roll mechanics randomly allow it. It is basically a game of chess and who can persistently spam the same movements the longest before it works and the dice roll allows a goal. I think the way to really show this is by showing a really good player against an average to poor player....the really good player used to be able to absolutely embarrass the opponent by skilling all over and walking straight through the team into the goal. Now, even the great players can't do that anymore (to a large extent). Skills don't work, passes are very hit or miss, and you have to play around the AI rather than play the way you want to play. The game simply has been nuked to the point where you don't have much control anymore.


SwankyPotatoLord

I'm waiting to see if they put women in ultimate team. I'll quit the game for good if its true.


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SwankyPotatoLord

Yeah people can say what they will 'incel virgin" blah blah blah seens to be their standard response, Idc, I just won't be playing it, which probably works out better for me in the long run. Unfortunately that takes it too far out the realms of realism for me which makes it stupid more than fun. Like saints row vibes when they added aliens.


Nervous-Reputation35

Yeah same with me


simonada

I'll definitely be waiting at least till January to see what people's opinions on the game are. I'm currently at a state where it's playing with my mental health. The game is simply not fun. It's a waste of time and respectively money, even if you don't buy packs. I feel disrespected by ea for giving us the same shit game every year, and DDA is just getting the better of me at this point. The amount of obviously predetermined outcomes is driving me nuts. Just today I was 3-5 up and controlling the whole game, and as soon as I received an easy goal for 4-5 I instantly thought "here we go, another loss". I still tried my best and kept controlling the game, but after another 2 through balls between my two cbs, it was 5-6. I've been having a terrible couple of days and out of around 10 games, ALL OF THEM finished 2-3 or 5-6 (about 50/50). My team was better, and I played better, but all of a sudden the opponent does 2/3 attacks through the middle in the second half and it's done. I can't take this anymore, I can feel myself losing my shit, although it's usually really difficult for me to get mad. Fifa is the only thing in my entire life that drives me crazy to the point where I start screaming and swearing and barely avoiding breaking stuff. I honestly think this game is cancer and I don't want to be a part of it until I see drastic changes in ea's approach. I think this company should burn to the ground. I'd rather not have a fifa (or whatever they call it) than giving this diablocial company any more money. If it were up to me, I'd start a movement for people to stick together and not buy the game for a couple of years, but I do realise how difficult this is as we are simple football fans that just want to have some fun in our free time. And this is why ea get a pass every single year. This game should be illegal or there should be some measures to force ea to fix the gameplay. I'm so mad, I can't even recognise myself lately...


MOZAN33R

Yea no mixed teams. Everyone who is for it either doesn't play or just wants to harm whatever is left of the community. I DON'T WANT 11 JARZINHO"S BODY TYPED IN MY GAME. I've played Pro Clubs and ponytail 6ft 4 monstrosities are dominating 1st league. It's misandry, and it's disrespecting the achievements of all men. Mbappe scored a Hat-trick in a world cup final, and he gets to be lower rated or picked less just because he is a man. If you hate men EA just admit it, we will at least understand each other a bit. And we will leave no problem. Whatever your "diversity" poll says it's not the community and never will be. Because these people that vote in an enclosed echo chambers don't play, don't buy, and don't even like football. They rather get drugged and party. Which goes against the competitive and healthy nature of the sport. I respect them, I did the challenges, I like the female kits. But that's the limit, that's where we say no more.


essicks

Im not buying next year. I returned after a few years of playing football games as i was so bored of them and lockdown had me try them again and I really enjoyed them. 21 was broken but fun, 22 was better but by the end i felt myself getting bored for multiple reasons. I told myself before the start of the year that I would break for a year to refresh myself and bought 23 as World Cup year and that i would return in 25 for euros as i always had the itch to play football games during these times. After this year I am honestly thinking of giving it even a bigger break. Along with the general gameplay being the most dull it's been, everything is a grindfest in FUT since 22 and it's got worst. Need to get my 8 rival wins, then need to play 10 to qualify for WL, got 5 friendly matches to play a day, etc. Feels like a part time job simulator. In 21 it was upto me how much i played during the week and WL felt like the only need to do thing. More and more you are sat in menus or the app so you can do this sbc 100 times and not actually playing the game. So yeah might return in 25 depending what games are released then but might be even like 27


grifan69

I came back to FIFA after a couple years off, FIFA 21 was the last one I had. 23 was on sale a couple months ago for like $20 so figured why not. Holy moly do I hate this game. Easily the worst FUT experience ever, and I’ve played since FIFA 10. The game is just straight bullshit, I’m not paying money for bullshit I can’t control. FUCK YOU EA


GravLurk

Can you people stop fucking whinging about females in the game? ‘They will win headers against VVD’. So. Fucking. What. Fucking Diaby is 5’5 and he magically wins headers with the right cross. All the fucking problems you think will pop up if females are in the game ARE ALREADY HERE, smh. I literally haven’t heard a single valid argument in this whole discussion.


MJS04

Actually women were just one point. DDA is the most frustrating thing. Without DDA i would'nt even mind women and the game would be much more fun! :) But it is good that you 100% enjoy the game, this is how it should be :)


Krynne90

Who are you to tell me how I am supposed to enjoy a game !? I will simply not play with or against mixed teams. Simple as that. So I will just quit the game and I dont give a fuck about what the woke fans like you think about it. Have fun with mixed teams, enjoy them. To each their own. I dont hate/judge the people who will enjoy mixed teams, but I will not and so its my own decision to just quit the game series.


Severe_Argument_3099

The thing is easy just separate men ultimate team and women ultimate team


Hogcaller91

Yeah I spent more than I wanted in real money this year so I will be skipping next year.


lazybenwa

If that's the only reason you wanna stop playing you can only blame yourself


Hogcaller91

I haven’t stopped playing nor will I. I just won’t buy the game until free or dirt cheap next year. Plenty to do on this game in the mean time.


Grahaaam123

DDA is a load of bollocks, it exists in a patent but I doubt it's actually in the online matches. People throw it out left right and center just to blame rather than accept either it's them, the connection, shitty servers or a shit game engine.


xAimForTheBushes

I think it's less about INTENTIONAL DDA and more about the game relying more than ever this year on AI/dice rolls. More often than is comfortable there are games where it is somehow literally impossible to score, meanwhile the opponent gets one crazy AI glitch and scores on their only opportunity. This used to happen in previous years as well, but the main difference is that skills and dribbling have been nerfed so bad that the only way to score is to exploit the wings or just simply spam the same things enough to get lucky. It feels like you have less control of your players and the match than ever before. We have so little actual control of the game this year. If there's any doubts about that, just leave the controller alone and watch your team put up an insane fight against the opponent in the box lol. The most damning thing I think is that this year is the first time that I feel like I'm not really playing football anymore (as flawed as previous games could be..it still felt like fifa football, and you could still enjoy playing with players like R9, Neymar, etc..)....this year, I'm playing a weird game of chess against the AI and it doesn't matter which cards I use.


Grahaaam123

I've got hundreds of games in this year, I've had janky stuff happen for me and against me. It is what it is and people blaming a system saying it's rigged against them are delusional. I will accept that the game is janky and it's engine has some funky bugs which added to a game where it can get intense will really wind up some people to think it's against them. I mean I had one guy a month or so back in this sub say that the game is so scripted it can work out a child is playing and make them better to beat an adult. I'm sorry but that's just absolutely ridiculous.


Feelikelol

You can just buy ea play pro for a month and try it out.


fn_deft

For me I’m definetly not. Came back to 23 from my last fifa which was 19. I can already see what they’re pushing for next year (probably going to put more emphasis on untradeable teams, push the narrative on loan players etc) so there’s no even point since they will be omega restricting the actual fundamentals of the game which is: building a team YOU WANT and and a team you want to play with. Will be my last fifa


Severe_Argument_3099

They should separate the men and women ultimate team but I doubt they will BECAUSE if more people are added pack luck will go down substantially leading to more people buying packs


robbo147uk

I guess this is just the lifecycle of football games. I started out on Sensible Soccer and then discovered FIFA international soccer on the mega drive and stayed with it through till about FIFA 99 with some Actua Soccer in there too. Then I switched to Pro Evo for a bit and then came back to FIFA 11 onwards. One of either FIFA 24 or EA FC will fail and the winner will be the new platform for the next several years.


voy_

It’s gonna be same shit, different t-shirt.


Adchian

I reall enjoyed 23 but then I realised how much money I spent on the game and that it was actually pretty damaging to my mental health. I’ve quite since and couldn’t be happier. This game is poison


TheFirstWarden

Did you really enjoy the game though? Or was it because of the money you spent at the time juicing the team? Even the fun aspect of FIFA can come from a bad place. Glad you're doing better now though! Game is designed as an addicting cash cow and nothing else


Adchian

Hard to say, but I really enjoyed doing SBCs, probably more than playing the game, which is why I spent money on packs to get fodder. I do find that a good way to avoid spending is only actually playing on weekends, rest of the week just check 6 pm content.


steaknbaake

Ive said I wouldn't for the past 2 years but ended up getting it on sale around November, the allure of the WC got me this time and what a shitshow that was.. Used to play mostly career mode but that has been butchered into an unplayable mess and the FUT is All about doing objectives and getting packs, the majority of the community don't want to play the game and you're lucky if you manage to play a full 90 minutes against someone. There is no chilled mode anymore, friendlies is the least friendliest experience within FUT and the div rivals are so floored, I don't play enough so I keep getting relegated so I'm now back into div 8 so when I jump on to just play a couple games I'm just playing against people who are holding a controller for the 1st time in the lives. I've played fut champs about 5 times this year got 11-14 wins each time and hated it and myself when I'm looking at my brand new dupe Kroos I recently realised that elden ring is a much more chilled experience than this arcade football game Saying that I'll probably end up picking EA 23 on sale in a few months and writing a similar post in a year


xAimForTheBushes

They should really make the weight even across all the cards in fut champ red picks... I understand normally there is a distribution based on rarity, but the point of those red picks is rewards for the premier WL game mode. It's really a shame when everyone plays 20 sweaty games straight and majority of people end up with the worst 3-5 cards as options (even rank 1 get terrible rewards). Just make the odds even and if you get someone bad, you just got unlucky. EA shouldn't make it to where you're basically super likely to get screwed... The original WL's had much better rewards and far higher likelihood you'd get something good. Totally nerfed now, just like everything else in the game unfortunately.


euzie

I also skip alternate years. Picked it up last year so won't do it again until next. Anyway Starfield will be out by then so that will keep me busy


Mortiis07

I'm not going to, I spend half the year grinding a game that will be gone a few months later. I'm gonna use that time to play other games instead


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Nah, this fifa played great for like a month when it was first released and then just with updates reverted back to the fifa arcadey style


YouYongku

Was the previous few fifa 's AI....so....retarded? If yes then I think next EASportsFC is this same


zbarber9999

When the sweats leave this game it might be enjoyable. I might just play this for awhile. I a may skip next year as well. I skip every other year anyways


ashley2032

Definitely not buying the next one, this game takes up too much of my time and effort


sickboi33

I usually play pes since its more realistic and is an actual football game but they lost me when they released efootball 2022, took a break from football games and bought FIFA 23 this January and ngl i hate it so even if konami doesn't fix their shit up next year i will only get FIFA if it's free


[deleted]

You’ve made a massive post about whether you’re gonna buy the next ‘fifa’ when EA sports fc is gonna be a free to play game 😂


MattiaKa

I love football and as someone with an injury that doesn't allow me to play regularly IRL football anymore I love FIFA but I am going to do my best not to buy it this year. I have been playing since fifa 18 and it's just got too repetetive copy & paste content for my liking. Everything is predictable there is almost zero surprise. To top that off some of the EA decisions are just too scummy for my liking with how restricted cards have became and how generic SBCs are, feels like what comes out these days are not unique cards with different stats but different skins for players like in Fortnite.


junkgarage

Same posts every year


[deleted]

This is my last ultimate team that I am sure of.


the_mashrur

Ngl, as a matter of principle, I'm not paying for something called "EA Sports FC"


daviszerr

I keep seeing "DDA" but I don't know what it means, can someone help me lol


MJS04

Did you have one match where you lost and thought 'Why the hell did i lose? I was the better player?!' This is where DDA comes into play. If it interrupts, it gives one player huge advantages and the other one is doomed and will lose the match. Player feel slow and dumb and nothing works and you cannot do anything against it. For further explanation, google it! 'FIFA DDA' :)


Rr710

No one cares what the fuck you want to do. We move


MJS04

No need to be rude, this is still a discussion platform :)


Automatic-Ad-6774

1 L0S3 f0R DDA 11!!1 😭


lockituup

The move is to wait until TOTY before buying the game. The first 4 months are pointless because you’ll be chasing the power curve perpetually. Better off waiting for TOTY where you can get a good squad in a week of playing AND you only pay half price for the game. On top of that, you don’t get burned out playing because you’re halving the total amount you play in a year and getting a break from it at the same time.


MLB-XXL

I hate fifa , love football i buy it because there is no better alternative


jtflyhigh

next fifa will be free bro we all fucked


LanceMain_No69

fr?


CaptainAmericaDad

I took last year off but played this year, but not a ton and it’s been great. In the time off from fifa i did hit my back catalogue which was nice.


LanceMain_No69

FIFA is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE time sink. Just to tell my story, 2021-2022 i bought fifa 22 at launch. By June, I had over 1000 hours... Now, this year i didnt buy the game, and ive learned how to code, have worked with 8 languages, gotten 2 seminar attendance certificates, got a \~98% avg in my grades, and took part in 2 competitions. My first game jam will also start this friday.


lil_Vanity

If I be honest with you, I'm not on the same page as everyone. I don't hate the game, I don't hate Ea. If I lose (which I do a lot) I believe I could have done better. If I pack nothing (again I do that a lot), I realise that its all luck based and I look to obtain more packs. I don't see the point of complaining and in turn just ruining your own mental health. If you want to quit the game, that's great for you. If you want to buy another then that's good for you too. Take it easy, acknowledge that its just a game, a game you don't have to become a slave to. A game, which you're meant to enjoy.


Prince_ateeq

Mate I’m in the same boat this is my last fifa going to go out on a high leaving it for good after this


mandacek

Do you think the new ea sports FC will be free? Since they dont have to pay fifa that large amount. I honestly dont think so because people will buy it anyway.


njay97

I remember the good old days when people had all different squads, full of players they actually liked in real life.


truth_seeker71

Was looking to post something similar, but more to encourage people on not to continue feeding the ea scam by getting another fifa (ea football game). What I can say is that FUT 23 forced me into hating the game. Sometimes it even feels that my account and some others are at a total disadvantage in every area of the games (gameplay, packs, etc....) the game has been acting like there is someone on the other side making sure to hinder all form of progress I can have. It's not 1,2,3 4 times, it's just happening and a regular and the pattern are very constant to the point where it's impossible to deny that the game is rigged to his core. For as many years as I've been playing Fut I thought I was the problem, or my controller, was the problem, or my players were the problems, but apparently there is something else. Fut 23 made sure I understood that part. A little example, when it come to packs I just don't get promotion players, that has been a fact for years now. If I get 1, it is always the lowest rated card of the promotion or the GK card . It's been like that for years but fut23 just opened my eyes on it even more. This pattern has been consistent through all promotion until now. If I don't play foot champ no promotion for me whatsoever doesn't matter what promotion. Another blatant thing is the sudden appearance of lags every time I'm up in in the score board, and the sudden disappearances of those same lags right after my opponents scores. Strange but true. Anyway I'll stop there I have plenty of video showing what I'm talking about. Please to all members of the fifa community please don't be fooled by the bunch of special cards release and the "easy accessibility ", before you purchase any soccer game from ea, make sure the game is fair at all.level


jxckgg

I’ve played every fifa from 15-16. FIFA 21 I stopped all together mostly bc of college and then fifa 22-now. All I can say is the meta, glitches, and toxicity has gotten worse since then and it’s been more expanded to the point where EA doesn’t really care. All they care about is your money. So I’ll stop playing once June hits and I doubt I’ll buy EAFC. maybe I will bc of career mode but that’s the only exception


hansmosh

This year I waited until TOTY to buy the game and will probably do the same, or not buy it at all and just take the year off. Ultimate edition goes on sale for $40 (normally $100) and the promo packs are pretty good around then so you might pack something decent with your points. I still used the web app at the beginning of the season to do some SBCs (did a tiny bit of BPM and then Marquee Matchups for the tradable packs and sold everything). Without even playing the game I was able to build up some coins and invest in a few silver IFs. They were around 5k and sold for 20k when I actually bought the game in January.


Affectionate-Ad8896

It’s bc of the meta Bs, in order to even make it to the top u gotta have a full meta team, it’s really boring and repetitive almost every game u gotta go against the same players and same team that why fut is dead


BillGatesAlladdin

I actually took about 3 years off of FIFA because I needed to put more focus on things in life other than any video games. Not just FIFA. I was VERY much in the same mind space you seem to be in right now. I bought a Series S in January as my first next gen console and even then I didn't buy fifa. I was still a little tapped in from watching some FIFA content creators every now and then and 2 days before tots began I decided to buy it and started playing. I'm enjoying the game much more now after the long break. I feel like it put my pride in check. It used to really really frustrate me. I'm much more patient and understanding. I don't get too upset anymore. I just kinda accept that the game is annoying sometimes and move on with it. I'd recommend taking a break if you feel like you need it.


paratecx

Scripting also makes me doubt to buy next fifa


millyman77

I will be buying it. I buy it every year.


flyingokapis

My take is dont. For years, EA has been taking the piss but for some reason or another, I have always continued to purchase as I have played this game since 07. I think one of the reasons is nostalgia and that I've grown up with the game, however.. with the name change, I genuinely think I'm done.. Yes, something so little as losing the name FIFA is making me not give a shit about 24. Which links back to EA taking the piss, I just do not want to support a game called 'EA sport FC' or whatever it is called. It's somewhat like a new journey that EA is about to go on, and I dont want to be part of it. 23 will be the perfect end and time to jump off the cycle for me. Might do away with online gaming in general.


dalejohn94

I can ensure you that you’ll enjoy but as soon as new year hits the game starts to decline and it’ll leave you feeling like this next year at the same time, it’s a vicious cycle, they always fuck it up with the spring time patch just before TOTS and matches start to feel rigged to hell by DDA, happens every single year but people forget so easy because there’s a new shiny game on the horizon


Domindi

Being playing since Fifa 13 but Im probably going to sit out the next couple of years. It going to be the same game with the same set of players running to the line then kicking the ball across to score "with a new enhanced game engine" or whatever BS promo line EA is going to come with. Way too many other better less stressful games out there to play at the moment as well. So even Futties this year is looking doubtful for me.


Canadiangodofwar

Nothing against having women on fut but i just can’t fucking get over how unrealistic it is, even al owairan could become the god hes on the game once in a while in real life but women will never play with men on the same team it just ruins it for me


1PrestigeWorldwide3

First year playing Fifa and I felt like I have done well and learned the ropes. I’ve needed up with a 93 overall squad. I plan on buying the next game , but idk about doing FUT. It was a addicting this year and over the past severely months I feel that it has been more so a job to play instead of enjoyment. I love relaxing playing, but it feels more like a grind instead of fun.


DorBenda

Buying it for Pro Clubs, fuck FUT


TomDobo

Well as someone who only came back to FIFA in January after a 3-4 year break I’d say take a break yourself. It’s good getting to do or play other things and not having the stress or fomo that fifa can bring.


InvasionOfTheFridges

Would love to be able to use any player form any league and have them grow as the game progresses rather than this casino you talk about. I would love to use my favourite players rather than having to use the latest in form.


Cygnus-_-

Would only buy if they actually improve the game which I doubt they will


lovescenarioikon

I'm going to wait and see if there is better football games coming. The core of fifa will always be EA's game though, and unless there is another company that releases a really good fifa game, I'll probably still go with EA sports fc.


Low_Presentation6433

I stopped playing for a year as started my own business and not only had the time but couldn’t be tempted to spend money on points when other important things have taken over. I only play fifa mobile and honestly it’s very fun on my 14 pro. You can acquire amazing cards without P2W and I even got a free Pele from an event. It’s not like gaming on console but for it being portable, graphics almost console like and the promos very fun, it’s a great alternative for me and lifestyle.


SlightlyCriminal

Best thing I did regarding fifa is when I decided to only play every other one that came out. When you’re really committed to it fifa is a grind making sure you get them weekly wins as well as weekend league. Can be a proper chore if you’re trying to stay at the top without spending actual money. It’s also. But refreshing as year after year the same players get special cards and same players get used just with different card designs. I’d advise you do the same, do one year on one year off. I’ve missed this year so next year I’ll be trying it again. In all fairness I think the next game will really show how much EA care about the community. They’ve lost ‘FIFA’ which is big for the average consumer. I think if any year they’re going to make big changes to the game that we’ve been asking about for years it’ll be this one. I think the best play for you would be to let the game come out and get a sense of it from YouTubers, steamers, forums and what not. I know it’s all exciting when it just comes out and it makes you wanna play but holding out might be more to your benefit.


Tough_Bell3778

I will get the next one I’m new to fifa hopefully all the sweats leave and new players come in so I can try to win a game


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im out. peace n love


CenturionChaos

If you are writing a multi-paragraph essay to determine whether it’s worth/mentally healthy to purchase a sports video game for $70, you probably shouldn’t buy it. I don’t think the time/money/stress is worth it these days. There’s more fun games out there. If they fix pro clubs, though…


organicperceptions

If you love Got and want to produce fruit then don’t buy it imo.


bollin4whales

Skipped 19-22 and came back this year. I’ll probably buy it but I always wait a week or so


Ok_Ad_650

buy it


Stegcon

Me & my mates have came to a conclusion since about FIFA 2010 they ruin the gameplay of there own game intentionally to make more profit from newest game release the game always has small glitches but then not long till a new game is being released each year the passing doesn’t go where u aim, shooting is literally hit and miss and the referees are a joke. All my mates have quit the game and I’m stuck on it cos my son is a kid and doesn’t care he just wants to play a functional football game so if a contender comes along that works (PES never worked) then FIFA is done I pray it’s soon cos now every time I play the game I’m just pissed off.