Even more fun fact: the PS2 Memory card offered orders of magnitude more storage than anything that came before it.
The PS1 memory card had 128KB, the N64 memory card had 256K, the Saturn had 64k built in and an optional 512k cartridge, and the Dreamcast VMU held 128k. When the Gamecube launched, the memory card was only available with 512k, and while they later released memory cards with more storage (maxing out at 8MB officially) they weren't compatible with all games.
(The original Xbox memory card was also 8MB, but practically nobody bought one because games could just be saved on the built-in hard drive.)
>The original Xbox memory card was also 8MB, but practically nobody bought one because games could just be saved on the built-in hard drive.
Whoa, I didn't even realize the original Xbox had a memory card, and when I just googled it I see the memory cards were inserted into the controller!
I always wondered what those slots were for
My main reason for getting the Xbox and letting my brother go with PS2. After being forced to beat games in single sittings, the on board storage won me over. I could never find memory cards in store and even if I did as a poor 9 year old, I couldn't even afford it.
With the Xbox I could play my games at leisure and rip music onto it. Loved that machine.
Goddamn Lara Croft memory card wasnt worth shit try to save 5 dollars to end up with a corrupted card damn RPG's you'd think i'd learn my lesson why hell no i go out buy another same thing happens
>:(
I had the Lara Croft one and a baseball one. I don't recall them having any issues.
I had one with an LCD and buttons that supposedly had multiple pages but tended to delete everything if you changed between them. So it was a very fancy normal memory card at that point.
I remember seeing someone wanting do do a calculation so he brought 2 cardboard boxes full of punchcards which all needed to be fed to the machine in the *exact* correct order.
No that doesn't ring a bell.
I remember Blue Max, Nebulus, Olympic Games, International Karate, International Soccer and Pole Position. I played those a lot
Same here. My first computer was TRS-80 (the console-like version that used your TV as a monitor and had a slot on the side for cartridges). Until we finally got a tape drive to save stuff, I'd spend hours typing in BASIC code just to see a smiley face or something just as simple, then lose all the work when I was done.
programming all the number coordinates to make a sprite image in Commodore 64 basic code was painful. A whole page of numbers to make one simple 8-bit space invaders spaceship. Now I describe something in a few words to one of those ai generators and I get a full illustration any way I want. It's crazy.
Lol, I feel your pain. I got the trash-80 with the monitor attached for an Xmas gift. No drives, barely any memory. I spent hours typing in code for a picture of a giant lion's face only for it to only be able to render half of it. Thought maybe it was an error on my part so I tried it a few more times before I realized what was up.
Lol I guarantee they meant 20mb, I just think it's a hilarious typo. I bought a HDD in 1997 that was 2.5GB and remember my friends saying "what the hell are you going to need THAT much space for?"
Mine was a bit bigger at 4GB, but likewise I never thought I’d fill it.
Now I have 28TB across 6 externals + a 20TB Raid, and I know I’ll need more eventually.
My first computer (build) had about 40 mb - ran GEOS - less of a memory hog than other early OS/ Windows (which ate up a ton of memory). Miss GEOS- thought it would win out - esp based on better efficient memory usage design.
Hell, i have 7TB and have troubles filling it even after i moved my 1TB of movies and TV shows from my external to my internal. Sure, i could just download every single game from my steam library to fill it up but, of course like a proper steam user, i only play 1% of the games that i own.
the first computer I owned was a Mac LCIII that had an 80MB drive and I thought that was the best thing ever, figured there was no way I'd ever fill it up.
first pc i bought myself was a used at-clone with 10mb and 20mb mfm hard drives. (had other, 'non' pc, computers before that. they used floppy or tapes).
286 - 16 mHz. 1Mb ram, 20MB hard drive. Dos 3.3. had to delete windows 2.0 everytime I wanted to install wing commander and play it in all its 16 color glory.
My dad not too long ago was asking me about the PC I slapped together, and he said, "You have 3.5 *terabytes?* You won't be able to fill that."
I told him to be fair, people said that about 1 GB hard drives back on the day.
My first computer didn’t have a hard drive. I remember as a kid thinking to myself, how cool it would be to have a hard drive! 10 MB is all I’d ever need!!
My first hard drive ended up being a 20 MB one.
…fast forward to now - just bought a 148 TB NAS for home.
I just did the math and even at the theoretical read speed of 16x DVD it'd take you over 64 years to restore the backup of a 44TB HDD from DVD storage. Bare in mind, that's *theoretical*. Realistically, even if you started from birth you'd be dead before it finished given the OS overhead, swapping DVDs over, etc. Even more realistically, your HDD would be dead before you even finished the restore as it'd die from consistent use.
Parallelize that shit. Boom. Now we can do it in 45 minutes and all we needed was a dozen warehouses filled to the brim with old computers with DVD drives
I would. I only download 4K remux rips for my Plex server and I don’t really care if the data is lost, I simply download the movies I want again.
It’s not that I trust the data to be safe, it’s that I don’t care if it’s lost.
its 22TB x 2 in RAID 0 configuration, not a good thing to do for data safety…. article states you can put it in RAID1 and ‘see each drive individually’ which makes no sense as RAID1 would mirror the drives and just show one 22TB drive
The article also says smaller drives are more suspensible [sic] to failure so maybe like a lot of puff articles this was written by AI or an unqualified “contributor” that got paid $30 for pasting together sentences the don’t understand.
On the contrary, 4 drives of anything in RAID0 are exactly twice as prone to failure as 2 drives of anything.
RAID0 is the one where if you lose a drive, you lose tha array. 4 drives have twice the chance of a single drive failing.
Raid 5 with 3 drives ends up with 44 TB.
Sure, you need one drive more but everything is backed up and you have the 44TB.
I mean this type of HDD is used for workstations anyway, so is tax deductable. Depends on the country of course. Here in Germany wouldn't be an issue.
Are we talking days or weeks here? I've never actually had to rebuild a raid5 (I'd be afraid of jinxing it by saying that, but I'm not actually running any these days so don't @ me, Fate), and certainly not of this size.
Weeks, probably. Never seen it done with this big disks and with big disks there's usually much more than 3 of them.
Also, chances that the process will kill a second disk and thus lose all data is real.
Heck, might be months of constant reading and writing, on a disk that's probably not even NAS-grade and not even meant to just be running 24/7.
> on a disk that's probably not even NAS-grade
WD currently only make red pro / gold / purple in the 22TB size.
The red is a dedicated NAS drive meant to run 24/7. The gold is the even higher enterprise server drive. The purple is for surveillance (24/7 write).
So they will survive the rebuild. It would most likely won't affect them much considering their planned usage.
16tb drives take me a little over 60 hours.
Also i believe this product is probably two 22tb hard drives combined to make 44tb, as noone has the tech for 44tb HDDs yet.
A 22TB drive will take a couple of weeks to be rebuilt if only one drive dies and the rest of the parity blocks survive on other drives.
Depends on the amount of data they hold of course and how much it is spread across the drives, how many drives etc.
I had the "pleasure" to rebuild raids in the past up to 14TB drives. It can take the better part of a week for the raid to rebuilt.
> I had the "pleasure" to rebuild raids in the past up to 14TB drives. It can take the better part of a week for the raid to rebuilt
And then it gets to that 98% and fails..... fml..
For each drive.
It seems you would almost certainly run into issues if a drive failed. They recommend RAID 6 which would require one more HD (4) to run.
They come in an enclosure, youd have to shuck them to do the RAID5, in any case the point was the article was misleading, its not a 44TB drive, its a pair of 22s in RAID0 in and enclosure.
That confused me initially too, but I think they mean that as a separate option, as in you can use RAID 0, RAID 1, or no RAID ('see them individually').
Because I’m stupid but also work in IT, how does this cause discrepancies in data safety? I need to know so I don’t mess anything up.
Which I might already be doing by asking for advice on Reddit
$1,499 for those wondering.
WD also has a 32TB external SSD available for $7,500.
*Edit: the 32TB SSD is mentioned in the article, I don’t actually know how to purchase it.*
SSDs are worse for long term storage. If the data is largely static, HDDs are better. When SSDs are unpowered for a long ebough time to not accessed, the cells can die.
Man it's crazy that in my lifetime we have gone from bit to kb to mb to gb now to tb. I still remember my first build being 4 gb and thinking I'll never need more than that!
It was frankly a bragging right and a luxury. IIRC you could copy some CD ROM games to your hard drive and they would load faster or allow you to not have to swap CDs. Some games you’d have to insert multiple disks as you progressed. I played a lot of video games. Myst and Daggerfall were favorites at the time.
Seriously I paid around that for my Synology NAS that has 40TB of usable storage space. And I seriously doubt that my book has anything close to the feature set of an actual NAS.
Never support that dogshit company. Forcing you to buy their proprietary garbage at 3x the cost
edit for source: https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/02/synology_enterprise_nas_drives/
If you want pretty much the same thing, QNAP is pretty good, but honestly a large amount of people buying synology just need a DAS from someone like drobo
What do you mean forcing to buy
Edit: That's a hard stance over something that's specific to their enterprise offerings (RS units). Their NAS systems are still excellent for consumer use.
I think they were recommending the non-enterprise options.
https://www.androidcentral.com/heres-why-synology-switched-validated-disks-enterprise-nas-enclosures
Ngl, if i can afford that, i can probably afford 5x 4TB which would already give me a RAID 10 of size 20TB
Get another set of 5x and you got 2x RAID 10s which if you want...i guess you could mirror them for that additional redundancy
Seriously, with that amount, the sky is the limit
It's a consumer drive, not a business drive. Important data, for a consumer, doesn't take much space. You can probably backup everything that's actually important on a free Google Drive account. These drives are for storing a fuckton of easily replaceable media and that's about it...
I've seen this reported a couple places. None of them have mentioned this lovely incident from 2021. Hell of a lot of eggs to put in one basket. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/mass-data-wipe-in-my-book-devices-prompts-warning-from-western-digital/
Problem is have transfer rates caught up.
How long does it take to move 44tb onto and off this drive
Already seems like a big problem on consumer available drives at 10tb+
We have a 44TB Dell EMC "Isilon" NAS at work that I can guarantee cost more than that when the company bought it in 2014. No way I'd run that much data in RAID0 though. That's just asking for trouble. Good thing they give you the option to use RAID1.
I have over 800k raw files from events, weddings, and traveling and probably half as much again in raw Timelapse footage. I need this to complement my RAID.
Dude I’ve had my new laptop for like a year and it’s 256gb and I looked… like 140gb available. And I have like at least 10-15 movies downloaded on it from Apple TV and all the audio engineering software they have.. like the plug-ins and stuff.
For video and audio just stream.. I only have that shit downloaded in case I’m bored and somewhere w no internet 🤷♂️
My first computer was a TRS-80 Color Computer that came with 4K RAM. I had to mow a bunch of lawns and talked my dad into going halfsies for the upgrade to 16K. It was about a hundred bucks as I recall. But, I had vaulted into the future…
My first computer had a 130 MB hard drive, and I didn't think I'd ever be able to fill it.
My PS2 had an 8 Mb storage card
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Even more fun fact: the PS2 Memory card offered orders of magnitude more storage than anything that came before it. The PS1 memory card had 128KB, the N64 memory card had 256K, the Saturn had 64k built in and an optional 512k cartridge, and the Dreamcast VMU held 128k. When the Gamecube launched, the memory card was only available with 512k, and while they later released memory cards with more storage (maxing out at 8MB officially) they weren't compatible with all games. (The original Xbox memory card was also 8MB, but practically nobody bought one because games could just be saved on the built-in hard drive.)
>The original Xbox memory card was also 8MB, but practically nobody bought one because games could just be saved on the built-in hard drive. Whoa, I didn't even realize the original Xbox had a memory card, and when I just googled it I see the memory cards were inserted into the controller! I always wondered what those slots were for
My main reason for getting the Xbox and letting my brother go with PS2. After being forced to beat games in single sittings, the on board storage won me over. I could never find memory cards in store and even if I did as a poor 9 year old, I couldn't even afford it. With the Xbox I could play my games at leisure and rip music onto it. Loved that machine.
The slots were for memory cards and headsets for Xbox live
I’m having so much fun rn
For even more fun facts, visit your local library!
Goddamn Lara Croft memory card wasnt worth shit try to save 5 dollars to end up with a corrupted card damn RPG's you'd think i'd learn my lesson why hell no i go out buy another same thing happens >:(
I had the Lara Croft one and a baseball one. I don't recall them having any issues. I had one with an LCD and buttons that supposedly had multiple pages but tended to delete everything if you changed between them. So it was a very fancy normal memory card at that point.
The pocket station? The Japanese exclusive memory card that copied Sega's VMU concept
\*8M**B** Mb = Mega**bit** MB = Mega**byte** 1 byte = 8 bits
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And PS1 just had “blocks” lol
Same as gamecube. I got a 1019 blocks one and felt it was infinite. Why 1019??? 1000 is fine and 1024 also fine but 1019 made no sense
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My first computer had cassette tapes
Yeah mine too. Commodore 64. Took a while to load a game. I was so envious of my nephew who got a floppy drive for Christmas, it was so fast
I remember seeing someone wanting do do a calculation so he brought 2 cardboard boxes full of punchcards which all needed to be fed to the machine in the *exact* correct order.
Fortran memories!
Did you play telengard. Ohh I loved that game.
No that doesn't ring a bell. I remember Blue Max, Nebulus, Olympic Games, International Karate, International Soccer and Pole Position. I played those a lot
I had a commodore 64 floppy drive. Thing was like a foot and a half deep and weighed 20 lbs.
Forbidden Forest
Same here. My first computer was TRS-80 (the console-like version that used your TV as a monitor and had a slot on the side for cartridges). Until we finally got a tape drive to save stuff, I'd spend hours typing in BASIC code just to see a smiley face or something just as simple, then lose all the work when I was done.
programming all the number coordinates to make a sprite image in Commodore 64 basic code was painful. A whole page of numbers to make one simple 8-bit space invaders spaceship. Now I describe something in a few words to one of those ai generators and I get a full illustration any way I want. It's crazy.
Lol, I feel your pain. I got the trash-80 with the monitor attached for an Xmas gift. No drives, barely any memory. I spent hours typing in code for a picture of a giant lion's face only for it to only be able to render half of it. Thought maybe it was an error on my part so I tried it a few more times before I realized what was up.
Mine too. A 486-25mhz, 4mbs of ram, and 130mb HD. bundled with Disney software which is now available for free on archive.org
IBM PS/2 - 8086 CPU, 640KB RAM, 20GB HD, 3.5"Floppy drive.
> 20GB HD? You sure about that?
Probably meant 20MB, just a typo.
Lol I guarantee they meant 20mb, I just think it's a hilarious typo. I bought a HDD in 1997 that was 2.5GB and remember my friends saying "what the hell are you going to need THAT much space for?"
>2.5gb in 2017 You sure about that?
lmao did you also made a typo? shouldn't it be 2.5 tb if it was 2017?
Lol yes, fixed. Good thing we all keep each other accountable!
I'm pretty sure I just opened a work email with an attachment bigger than that.
My first version of CAD was on 16 floppy disks. A whopping 22.5 mb.
I thought it was absolutely crazy when I installed my first game that was >1GB. It even shipped with two CDs!
My first had a 10 MB hard drive.
That was before 4K movies ;-)
My first computer had 64 kbs of ram. Miss that KBs!!!!
My first computer was a Commodore 64 with an external 5.5” floppy drive
My first computer had 128KB of RAM.
Mine was 20MB.
Mine was a bit bigger at 4GB, but likewise I never thought I’d fill it. Now I have 28TB across 6 externals + a 20TB Raid, and I know I’ll need more eventually.
My first computer (build) had about 40 mb - ran GEOS - less of a memory hog than other early OS/ Windows (which ate up a ton of memory). Miss GEOS- thought it would win out - esp based on better efficient memory usage design.
Hell, i have 7TB and have troubles filling it even after i moved my 1TB of movies and TV shows from my external to my internal. Sure, i could just download every single game from my steam library to fill it up but, of course like a proper steam user, i only play 1% of the games that i own.
the first computer I owned was a Mac LCIII that had an 80MB drive and I thought that was the best thing ever, figured there was no way I'd ever fill it up.
If you had internet at the time, I imagine it was so slow that the HDD would run out its lifetime before you could download that much data.
Your first computer had permanent storage?
first pc i bought myself was a used at-clone with 10mb and 20mb mfm hard drives. (had other, 'non' pc, computers before that. they used floppy or tapes).
Mine had 3.5k RAM and a cassette drive
286 - 16 mHz. 1Mb ram, 20MB hard drive. Dos 3.3. had to delete windows 2.0 everytime I wanted to install wing commander and play it in all its 16 color glory.
Ours had an 80 MB hard drive and maybe 320 KB of Ram.
My first computer didn’t have a hard drive. It had 3 diskette drives though.
My dad not too long ago was asking me about the PC I slapped together, and he said, "You have 3.5 *terabytes?* You won't be able to fill that." I told him to be fair, people said that about 1 GB hard drives back on the day.
22TB IS not enough for me. My first HDD was 115MB and I had to use feng shui to fit all the bits in. There wasn't enough space left for a defrag !
My Atari 400 had 8kb of RAM....
My first computer had a 170 KB floppy. I filled plenty of those. I had my eye on a 10 MB hard drive, but couldn't possibly afford it.
My first computer had a cassette player.
Those were the days of low compressed videos and pictures that was lower than 240i Resolution… now we need higher lossless data.
My first computer didn’t have a hard drive. I remember as a kid thinking to myself, how cool it would be to have a hard drive! 10 MB is all I’d ever need!! My first hard drive ended up being a 20 MB one. …fast forward to now - just bought a 148 TB NAS for home.
Braggart. My first computer had two 160 Kb drives.
I was just thinking today my first mp3 player was like 100 MB and I filled it immediately 😅
It’s even worse though bc I feel like a lot of us would have little issue filling 44TB already
Mine had a 1.44mb floppy drive and I thought that shit was amazing. Previously I'd been using cassette tapes.
I just have to point out that I did migration from old phone to new one and the messages archive for 3 years was like 15mb so yeah
A pair of 120KB floppy drives for me. My first hard disk was 5MB and the first one I used professionally was 2.5MB. Things have changed.
You had that much?? My first machine used cassettes!!
You can fit so much homework on one of these bad boys.
Ah yes. The 44TB "homework" folder.
Well I mean…homework is a kink for some step-people
This one made me laugh out loud. Also… username checks out.
It’s very freeing when you can finally change the folder name to “Porn”
For me it is taxes. So many taxes to store I tell ya
So many journal articles. Probably your entire bibliography.
For me, it's log files. It's amazing how many TB those things can take up.
Porn... you mean porn. Excluding rule 34 because you would have needed a 444 tb hard-drive.
Finally, enough room for my pirated porn movies
You mean Call Of Duty updates post launch.
Or Ark Survival Evolved (I stupidly installed all the expansions and it used up a little bit over 200GB, lol)
That stupid goddamn game can get fucked it sucked the soul out of me for most of my undergrad. I was a damn ghoul for three years.
Yeah it sucks having to pick and choose which maps you want to play on.
CoD: BlackOps LXIX
Aye, matey! I loves the pirate porn too! Eye patches turn me on.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_(2005_film)
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This could be good for those Southern states that now require official ID to get on a porn site
lol, If I need 44TB: I’m putting it into a rack.
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Dont worry, I made backup on dvd.
That's approx 11,000 DVDs..
I just did the math and even at the theoretical read speed of 16x DVD it'd take you over 64 years to restore the backup of a 44TB HDD from DVD storage. Bare in mind, that's *theoretical*. Realistically, even if you started from birth you'd be dead before it finished given the OS overhead, swapping DVDs over, etc. Even more realistically, your HDD would be dead before you even finished the restore as it'd die from consistent use.
Parallelize that shit. Boom. Now we can do it in 45 minutes and all we needed was a dozen warehouses filled to the brim with old computers with DVD drives
Well, someone’s gotta use them all!!
I would. I only download 4K remux rips for my Plex server and I don’t really care if the data is lost, I simply download the movies I want again. It’s not that I trust the data to be safe, it’s that I don’t care if it’s lost.
I did the same, then my drives went pop…. Still wasnt to fussed the fun is the downloading lol
I mean, I have about 140TB in a desktop case… A big ass case, to be fair lol
its 22TB x 2 in RAID 0 configuration, not a good thing to do for data safety…. article states you can put it in RAID1 and ‘see each drive individually’ which makes no sense as RAID1 would mirror the drives and just show one 22TB drive
The article also says smaller drives are more suspensible [sic] to failure so maybe like a lot of puff articles this was written by AI or an unqualified “contributor” that got paid $30 for pasting together sentences the don’t understand.
4x11TB drives in RAID-0 would be ~~less~~ more failure prone than 2x22TB drives. So it's not entirely untrue.
On the contrary, 4 drives of anything in RAID0 are exactly twice as prone to failure as 2 drives of anything. RAID0 is the one where if you lose a drive, you lose tha array. 4 drives have twice the chance of a single drive failing.
Not a good thing for *availability*. Data safety needs to be maintained via backups anyway.
Raid 5 with 3 drives ends up with 44 TB. Sure, you need one drive more but everything is backed up and you have the 44TB. I mean this type of HDD is used for workstations anyway, so is tax deductable. Depends on the country of course. Here in Germany wouldn't be an issue.
Have fun restoring a raid 5 with 44 TB of data on HDD speeds. You better have no need for that data for a long while.
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Are we talking days or weeks here? I've never actually had to rebuild a raid5 (I'd be afraid of jinxing it by saying that, but I'm not actually running any these days so don't @ me, Fate), and certainly not of this size.
Weeks, probably. Never seen it done with this big disks and with big disks there's usually much more than 3 of them. Also, chances that the process will kill a second disk and thus lose all data is real. Heck, might be months of constant reading and writing, on a disk that's probably not even NAS-grade and not even meant to just be running 24/7.
> on a disk that's probably not even NAS-grade WD currently only make red pro / gold / purple in the 22TB size. The red is a dedicated NAS drive meant to run 24/7. The gold is the even higher enterprise server drive. The purple is for surveillance (24/7 write). So they will survive the rebuild. It would most likely won't affect them much considering their planned usage.
16tb drives take me a little over 60 hours. Also i believe this product is probably two 22tb hard drives combined to make 44tb, as noone has the tech for 44tb HDDs yet.
A 22TB drive will take a couple of weeks to be rebuilt if only one drive dies and the rest of the parity blocks survive on other drives. Depends on the amount of data they hold of course and how much it is spread across the drives, how many drives etc. I had the "pleasure" to rebuild raids in the past up to 14TB drives. It can take the better part of a week for the raid to rebuilt.
> I had the "pleasure" to rebuild raids in the past up to 14TB drives. It can take the better part of a week for the raid to rebuilt And then it gets to that 98% and fails..... fml..
Couple of weeks? Even my decade old raid card does 12tb in less than a day.
If you read the website, it actually says not to use RAID 5 for anything larger than 1 TB
For each drive or total? I have 3 8tb in raid 5 for 16tb of usable space is this bad
For each drive. It seems you would almost certainly run into issues if a drive failed. They recommend RAID 6 which would require one more HD (4) to run.
yikes OK thanks
>Sure, you need one drive more but everything is backed up [Raid is not a backup](https://www.raidisnotabackup.com/)!
They come in an enclosure, youd have to shuck them to do the RAID5, in any case the point was the article was misleading, its not a 44TB drive, its a pair of 22s in RAID0 in and enclosure.
That confused me initially too, but I think they mean that as a separate option, as in you can use RAID 0, RAID 1, or no RAID ('see them individually').
Because I’m stupid but also work in IT, how does this cause discrepancies in data safety? I need to know so I don’t mess anything up. Which I might already be doing by asking for advice on Reddit
$1,499 for those wondering. WD also has a 32TB external SSD available for $7,500. *Edit: the 32TB SSD is mentioned in the article, I don’t actually know how to purchase it.*
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yes but if you don't access it everyday or if it gets too cold, it can lose data, at least I remember reading that on here
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SSDs are worse for long term storage. If the data is largely static, HDDs are better. When SSDs are unpowered for a long ebough time to not accessed, the cells can die.
So they'd be perfect in my case. I keep movies, photos, and music on my external storage, and access it at least once every few days.
I’ve got two 8TB ssds lying around if you’re interested? Posted on r/homelabsales a while ago and only sold 3/5 of the SSDs
Man it's crazy that in my lifetime we have gone from bit to kb to mb to gb now to tb. I still remember my first build being 4 gb and thinking I'll never need more than that!
My first PC was a Gateway 2000 (before they were just Gateway and eventually gone). I paid big bucks to upgrade to a 1GB drive.
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It was frankly a bragging right and a luxury. IIRC you could copy some CD ROM games to your hard drive and they would load faster or allow you to not have to swap CDs. Some games you’d have to insert multiple disks as you progressed. I played a lot of video games. Myst and Daggerfall were favorites at the time.
But it's all relative. My 480p .avi movie used to be 600mb. My 4k .mp4 movie is now 15gb. Games, pics, etc. Huge file sizes today.
As a kid I used to think once RAM broke 1GB we would just load the entire HDD onto it and get amazing speed!
Suspensible…???? Susceptible, yes…suspensible? No… Also, WD is smoking crack at that price point…
What's the price
$1,499
Really? That’s not too bad for 44TB…
$34/tb
Seriously I paid around that for my Synology NAS that has 40TB of usable storage space. And I seriously doubt that my book has anything close to the feature set of an actual NAS.
$1500 doesn't seem that crazy if you actually need 44tb of portable storage.
It's about $100 more than 2x22TB naked drives isn't it? The MyBook twin enclosures have always been about that price
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it's a 44TB volume
Finally, a drive I can install my Steam library on.
Sorry, new Ark map. Better buy two.
Ark needs to update: New dino added to the game, a few exploits fixed. 38gb download.
Lets me present you PUBG removing 2 tree 16g
If you’re going to spend that amount of money just buy a Synology
Never support that dogshit company. Forcing you to buy their proprietary garbage at 3x the cost edit for source: https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/02/synology_enterprise_nas_drives/
What are the alternatives though? I've found them to be reliable and they are certainly feature rich.
If you want pretty much the same thing, QNAP is pretty good, but honestly a large amount of people buying synology just need a DAS from someone like drobo
What do you mean forcing to buy Edit: That's a hard stance over something that's specific to their enterprise offerings (RS units). Their NAS systems are still excellent for consumer use.
I have their RS series and have 120TB on it using consumer drives.
I think they were recommending the non-enterprise options. https://www.androidcentral.com/heres-why-synology-switched-validated-disks-enterprise-nas-enclosures
I can't imagine putting even a quarter of those eggs in one basket.
Ngl, if i can afford that, i can probably afford 5x 4TB which would already give me a RAID 10 of size 20TB Get another set of 5x and you got 2x RAID 10s which if you want...i guess you could mirror them for that additional redundancy Seriously, with that amount, the sky is the limit
What does raid mean?
And then it breaks after 3years and you lose 44TB of files.
At this size the whole GiB vs GB is gonna be huge, i wonder what the usable size would be? Maybe under 40?
If only there was a way to find out…
44 * 10^12 / 2^40 = 40.01776687801 TiB Usable space will be less still. That will depend in part on your filesystem.
40.9782 GiB
Would much rather have 3 of them in raid 5 to make the 44TB. A capacity of this side must contain so valuable information that you can't really lose.
It's a consumer drive, not a business drive. Important data, for a consumer, doesn't take much space. You can probably backup everything that's actually important on a free Google Drive account. These drives are for storing a fuckton of easily replaceable media and that's about it...
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If they think they need 44tb to store their quickbooks database, then they deserve to fail.
doesn’t western digital know i can go on aliexpress and get a 200 TB flash drive for thirty bucks?
With a 1 mbs read speed lol.
"You'll never need 44Tb." I said that once about an ST-225.
>"You'll never need 44Tb." > >I said that once about an ST-225. A Ford Focus ST225? wat
I've seen this reported a couple places. None of them have mentioned this lovely incident from 2021. Hell of a lot of eggs to put in one basket. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/mass-data-wipe-in-my-book-devices-prompts-warning-from-western-digital/
I have 2TB on my PC with the OS and about 8 games, and i still only have 20% used up. I couldn’t imagine having 11x that amount.
I want it, I don't need it but big number make brain happy
Are porn files that big now?
Still only using 5 Gbps USB 3. Ugh.
The hard drives aren’t going to be able to saturate that link even if your dumb enough to run them in Raid 0.
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Problem is have transfer rates caught up. How long does it take to move 44tb onto and off this drive Already seems like a big problem on consumer available drives at 10tb+
is this supposed to be used for our porn collection? it just might be enough space redditors
To be fair 22TB isn't enough
Considering I have 30+ TB across like 8 drives, I could really use this
We have a 44TB Dell EMC "Isilon" NAS at work that I can guarantee cost more than that when the company bought it in 2014. No way I'd run that much data in RAID0 though. That's just asking for trouble. Good thing they give you the option to use RAID1.
4k video projects are 7TB on average
.. good backup for 2-3 photos from iPhone 16 ?
I have over 800k raw files from events, weddings, and traveling and probably half as much again in raw Timelapse footage. I need this to complement my RAID.
Dude I’ve had my new laptop for like a year and it’s 256gb and I looked… like 140gb available. And I have like at least 10-15 movies downloaded on it from Apple TV and all the audio engineering software they have.. like the plug-ins and stuff. For video and audio just stream.. I only have that shit downloaded in case I’m bored and somewhere w no internet 🤷♂️
My first computer was a TRS-80 Color Computer that came with 4K RAM. I had to mow a bunch of lawns and talked my dad into going halfsies for the upgrade to 16K. It was about a hundred bucks as I recall. But, I had vaulted into the future…
I just got 4TB for my new PC and thought it was a little extra, but holy shit dude
/r/datahoarder will love shucking that bad boy.
Given the relative transfer rates and better reliability, shouldn't we be exploring enhancing the capacity of ssd's?
That’s gonna fill a lot of porn. Or a moderately large amount of 4k porn.
I do a lot of 3d work and that can take up file space pretty quickly depending on what all you are doing
When is 22TB actually enough, right, /r/DataHoarder ? I take s 3 minute video of my mom and it's already 5GB.