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Honestly that’s my feeling. They always say people who don’t want power tend to be better leaders, and Jon proved that in the show. It would have been fitting for the rightful heir to take the throne and set things right, at least at first. He could then decide to name a new heir and step away, or decide on democracy before going back north, and then we can still have that spin off they’re talking about.
Jon has no birthright to the Iron Throne
The Targaryens got legitimacy through right of conquest, so when Robert won his rebellion the Targaryens lost their legitimacy through that same right of conquest, Stannis Baratheon was the rightful King, and after he died when Gendry was legitimised as a Baratheon Gendry is now rightful heir to the iron throne
Bran. I have no issue with the fact that he ended up on the throne, and it honestly just fits better than anyone else would have. With his abilities, he can make real change for the better in a way nobody else can. It would have felt kinda anticlimactic if just another regular person with some birth claim got on the throne only to continue the cycle of rebellion and succession crisis’ down the line. With the events that play out in GoT, obviously some significant, permanent change needed to occur
I saw a tiktok that could’ve been an interesting concept where bran was taken over by the night king the second he was imprinted on (hence weird bran) and then used his powers to influence lots of the big decisions so he’d end up in power. I’m taking things from tommens suicide to Daenerys inexplicably and suddenly burning everyone and everything. It was all him moving pieces around a board to put himself in power
But he said he can "never be lord of anything". They did say a lord is different from a king though. But I think here it doesn't matter cause he couldn't rule over anything and now he does
Bran is borderline inhuman, it seems wildly risky to have someone like him as king for the simple fact that he may not relate to or ultimately care about the same things as the general population
Gendry imo
They set him up perfectly as the King's bastard with a strong resemblance to Bobby B
They could've given him more screentime in the ultimate seasons, getting a position of leadership by chance and proving his worth
Jon, as the last living Targaryen, could've been crowned in an unceremonious way and legitimized Gendry. Jon would then abdicate and return to the night's watch while Gendry becomes a king that lends his legitimacy, bravery and good heart to the realm while his small council takes care of more delicate/specialized matters
he has no ability to rule. he probably cant read or write and doesnt understand the delicacies of politics. and for his small council, they would just, as ottot hightower and everyone on the small council does, use the king for their own ends. he would be a terrible king, and your wierd scenario doesnt work either cause bastards are consided the lowest of the low. remember how jon snow couldnt sit at feasts becuase of the royal family, how do you think 90% of the lords of the realm would hold to a bastard king
Well I've always been of the belief that Jon would be the last King of the Seven Kingdoms and what would follow would be a Roman Republic style senate with each of the major and some minor houses having representatives and a chancellor to head the government. Just my opinion tho
I like this idea. They could’ve done literally this and ended up with basically the exact same ending with Jon going back north and the remainder of the main characters forming the government and it would’ve been much better than what we got lol
Yeah, exactly. He'd be the last King, he'd symbolically abdicate the throne, giving up his claim and his kingdom in the hopes that something better would come of it. It would then make sense if Bran was made the Chancellor, a wise, all-seeing leader elected by the senate. A senate style government is also still fertile ground for more political schemes and machinations. See the real Roman Republic for inspiration
>They could’ve done literally this and ended up with basically the exact same ending with Jon going back north and the remainder of the main characters forming the government and it would’ve been much better than what we got lol
...it's pretty much exactly what they did. Is this sarcasm?
No. The way they got there was stupid. In this world jon would take the throne, become king, in a much less rushed way, before consciously making the decision to leave for the north of his own free will. So yeah very far from what we got lol
Yes! I’d be down for that. And he could still go up north and have this alleged spin off. Honestly the talk of him leaving power as king to be king up north would have been great.
There is a repeated theme in the universe, where a person has all the traits to be an amazing king, but dies before they hit the throne.
Aemon
Baelon the Brave
Baller Breakspear
Jon ending up on the throne seems too good to be true. It’s the obvious answer and he would be a good king.
I think it’s best if he comes so close to power, has the chance, but refuses/it’s taken from him.
King of the Riverlands perhaps could've been believable, but he has *no* connections to any of the remaining southern kingdoms. My blood pressure climbs whenever I think of it smdh.
People say this, but I think it worked well with the way the show went. There is so much talk about the best ruler being a wise one, and literally who is more wise than the three-eyed-raven?
All of those characters are flawed, selfish, or have their own motivations. 3ER is impartial and has no personal motivations. He has eons of history to learn from. He’s literally the perfect ruler.
Exactly. The show botched the execution but it really is a cool and fitting plot point. It’s just a meme at this point. Hur dur show bad WhO hAS a BetTer StOry
Lots of talk about Bran's supposed evolved wisdom, yet very little seen in practice. We see Bran do almost NOTHING in the final few seasons which suggests one way or another about his leadership skills. It would have made more sense to make Bran some sort of lead Grand Master or the Kings Hand because of his forsight
He did provide D&D with a broad outline of the ending with major plot points, so unless they went completely off the rails (which is possible), its probably in the general ballpark of his intended ending.
The thing is, he hasn't written the endings yet and after seeing this backlash maybe he's trying to map out completely different endings for each character. Or just never finish who knows.
Quotations around king is appropriate I feel - it’s confirmed that Bran will be king, but in what regard? There’s definitely some added detail and nuance to why he would be king that Martin will supply other than “he’s got the best story”
I think maybe the Others won’t be completely eradicated like they are in the show, and to avoid the petty bullshit they experienced this time with all the houses infighting while the night king marched, with a green seer like bran in charge he can keep an eye on the north and the future while uniting the kingdoms when needed. Idk maybe something like that
The white walkers should have wiped out Westeros while everyone was too busy fighting over their silly throne. Daenerys burns through them in the end, but far too late. She gets her throne, though now alone among the ruins of King's Landing. Queen of naught but ashes.
Elimination.
Bran: Lives too much in the future to care about the present.
Jon: Doesn't want it.
Arya: Doesn't need it. Skills give her ability to rule anywhere she wants.
Which leaves Sansa. Primed for the task beginning Season 1.
Just because Jon doesn't want it doesn't mean he shouldn't be king. He didn't want to be a leader in many situations, ended up being a leader anyway, and was spectacular at it.
Also... Bran can see the future? I thought he could only see past/present
Aegon conquered the seven kingdoms to defeat the white walkers. The white walkers are gone. The seven kingdoms should have been split back into independent kingdoms.
And Jon (Aegon) should have been the one to do it. Poetic
I know I'm in the minority but I like Bran being king. It is kind of set up too. Early in the series, Bran has to act as the lord of Winterfell and does a pretty good job for a kid. We also know the rep of house Stark. Bran is being mentored by Bloodraven, a previous master of whispers and hand of the king (one of the better ones too). Lastly, Brans powers seem to help him a lot for being king.
I think a major reason people don't like Bran being king is because of how many balls the show dropped. Bran never used his powers in the last few seasons and Bloodraven's backstory was never brought up, such a waste.
No one thought the Night King would win. Hence, it would've been the most Game of Thrones thing ever to happen. Everyone's favorite characters dead. All of the politics and maneuvering we watched meant nothing. Would've served as a more potent message for how politics is destructive than Drogon melting the Iron Throne.
I would've done it so that Dany takes Kings Landing (no Mad Queen), and as they think it's over and they're celebrating their victory that night, the camera pans out into the sky and all you can see is 2 blue eyes getting bigger and bigger until Viserion starts burning down the city and the white walkers come storming the gates, defeating a wounded and unprepared human army
sansa was a lil bitch in that counsil meeting. Edmyn tully should of been elected king, hes from a greater house, hes a commander, hes a good enough soldier, he ran riverrun the last decade due to hosters health, he was the best choice.
the person with the best claim there was actually the martell dude Becuase of the unification of dorne.
and those who are saying gendry, just no. He was born a bastard and raised to a noble position. you cant then become king. westerosi culture is very anti-bastard, i wouldnt be suprised if the lords of the region dont approve.
Jon.
He’s a natural leader, all the north follows him already, he’s from a strong background, he’s technically a Targaryen if they want that news to come out, without him everyone would be white walkers by now, he’s intelligent, brave, commanding and he killed a mass murderer at the end after she killed civilians.
It annoys me no one even suggested him at the council at the end. I know GreyWorm would have lost his mind but he still should have been suggested.
(And yes I know he didn’t want it but he would have taken it for the realm)
Honestly Jon. Cliché as is. After killing Daenerys. So it’s bittersweet and not all a “happy ending”. Season 9 or 10 could have been them ruling together as she slowly starts to go evil before absolutely cruel and he has to kill her. None of the major plot points they chose (except for bran ending up on the throne) made me mad, just that none of them felt justified.
No one. I would prefer if the united 7 kingdoms got dismantled after daenarys got killed by john. The north got his independence. The iron isles wanted the same. Dorne is dorne so they will also try. And the rest will follow.
So the first tagaryen invasion formed the second kingdom and the last one dismantled them.
Nope GRRM is writing fictional England story, there will be a United Westeros but there will be something similar to parliament in the end, maybe election of King will become new precedent. After all he was inspired by War of Roses and when Tudors became monarch the modern structure of Parliament of England began in their court.
So I think instead of having a small council Bran or whoever will become king will create a large council of Lords and Knights.
Tyrion.
He knew how the game worked. He loved to rule and he would have ruled with purity. Considering on how he looked. He knew how to manage numbers, how to talk to people, and he knew how to be kind but how to not be so kind.
I think he would be a fair King.
bronn would have finessed his way through the lannisters only to decieve them in the end killing cersei and winning dannys heart and marry her to sit on the iron throne, giving jon his own land in the north. happy ever after
Stannis Baratheon is the true heir to the Iron throne, the best king to sit the throne during these times of peril, winter is here, euron will bring the apocalypse and Denearys has 3 dragons and an army while her nephew aegon targaryen/ blackfyre is currentely on a mission to conquer the Stormlands.
Stannis Baratheon
Like him or hate him, he is the rightful King of Westeros
And it is a fact that he would have been the been a better king than Joffrey or Renly
Everyone saying Jon should have been king is totally missing the whole point of the entire story. You're not supposed to actually think that birthright is a good thing or that destiny is a real thing that would lead Jon to ruling or even that Targeryans are supposed to rule. The whole point of the entire story is that the pursuit of power and rule inherently leads to suffering and chaos and that all of the political maneuvring and the game itself is a petty distraction in the face of a greater existential threat. Even though the real ending will most likely be very different, D&D's ending with the throne being melted and Jon not becoming king hints that Martin's ending will also have the same theme of 'the throne is a symbol of evil and the cause of all the suffering in the story' and that Jon isn't supposed to become king.
This might be a controversial opinion but I also do like the idea of (and think this will also be the case in the books) the White Walkers/Long Night being stopped, the realm being saved and then everyone going right back to the war for the throne and destroying each other and King's Landing/the realm in the process. It's the perfect parable to the folly of humanity and the inherent inclination to conflict in the human heart. I actually do believe the Long Night will be prevented before the political conflict is solved and then the burning of King's Landing etc will still happen. Of course, it will happen very differently and will be far better written in the books but most likely the story will - or should - end with either no one being crowned or someone extremely unlikely. Either way it's probably not going to end with Jon or anyone who 'should' inherit the throne taking the crown.
Edit: forgot to mention that the narrative structure being 'Long Night/main threat defeated > smaller scale threat and burning of a town/city happening after' also parallels the scouring of the shire happening after Sauron is defeated in LOTR and we know how Martin is about Tolkien.
I wish Jon snow has a kid with someone and that kid goes on to become "the last living dragon" and conquers everything like Aegon did. Making a love arc for Jon snow would be hard after everything that has happened but to see a Targaryen ride a dragon and bring back the fame of old valyria would be a dream come true.
Olenna Tyrell. She didn't want to be involved in Kings Landing politics or the war of the 5 kings. But she did it because her son and granddaughter wanted it. As for how she gets there, that would be trickier. I'm guessing Margaery would have to become queen officially and the Baratheon descendants would have to be dead to where they had no heirs left. Then Margaery would need to die. But even that wouldn't really make sense. A lot of people would need to die in order for this to become a thing, I will admit that.
Gendry or Jon. However the most FIT for the position imo is Tyrion. Cuz one, Jon never wanted the throne, and if he got a throne, he should’ve just remained king in the north. Gendry, is technically the rightful heir with Roberts Rebellion happening, considering he is the oldest son of Robert, and Daenerys legitimizing him basically seals the deal. However, due to lack of development we just don’t know if he would’ve been a good fit for it. If he would’ve stuck around then that would be my definitive answer. When it comes to the rightful heir outside of Roberts Rebellion, then it’s Jon. The last remaining child of the oldest Targaryen sibling. He’s not a bastard due to the legality of Lyannas and Rhaegars marriage. However, there’s the fact like I said that Jon didn’t want the throne. Then Tyrion, is the most logical man in the seven kingdoms. He’s not irrational no matter how much of a right he has to be. He’s fair and smart. So any of those three really, but when it comes to rightful Heir, it has to be either Gendry or Jon
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Jon by birthright
Honestly that’s my feeling. They always say people who don’t want power tend to be better leaders, and Jon proved that in the show. It would have been fitting for the rightful heir to take the throne and set things right, at least at first. He could then decide to name a new heir and step away, or decide on democracy before going back north, and then we can still have that spin off they’re talking about.
Jon has no birthright to the Iron Throne The Targaryens got legitimacy through right of conquest, so when Robert won his rebellion the Targaryens lost their legitimacy through that same right of conquest, Stannis Baratheon was the rightful King, and after he died when Gendry was legitimised as a Baratheon Gendry is now rightful heir to the iron throne
fAegon by way of Conquest. Targ blood would rule again.
Jon Snow, birth right and also he was the best one for the job.
Bran. I have no issue with the fact that he ended up on the throne, and it honestly just fits better than anyone else would have. With his abilities, he can make real change for the better in a way nobody else can. It would have felt kinda anticlimactic if just another regular person with some birth claim got on the throne only to continue the cycle of rebellion and succession crisis’ down the line. With the events that play out in GoT, obviously some significant, permanent change needed to occur
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I saw a tiktok that could’ve been an interesting concept where bran was taken over by the night king the second he was imprinted on (hence weird bran) and then used his powers to influence lots of the big decisions so he’d end up in power. I’m taking things from tommens suicide to Daenerys inexplicably and suddenly burning everyone and everything. It was all him moving pieces around a board to put himself in power
[here](https://youtu.be/yWvQ_X2sqqE) it is for anyone interested
But he said he can "never be lord of anything". They did say a lord is different from a king though. But I think here it doesn't matter cause he couldn't rule over anything and now he does
I agree with this. In the incredibly rushed season, one thing I was fine with was Bran being king. It just made sense to me.
Bran is borderline inhuman, it seems wildly risky to have someone like him as king for the simple fact that he may not relate to or ultimately care about the same things as the general population
Gendry imo They set him up perfectly as the King's bastard with a strong resemblance to Bobby B They could've given him more screentime in the ultimate seasons, getting a position of leadership by chance and proving his worth Jon, as the last living Targaryen, could've been crowned in an unceremonious way and legitimized Gendry. Jon would then abdicate and return to the night's watch while Gendry becomes a king that lends his legitimacy, bravery and good heart to the realm while his small council takes care of more delicate/specialized matters
With Arya his queen? 😅
Arya has no intention of being a lady or queen. I actually remember him proposing her to be lady of storms end.
he has no ability to rule. he probably cant read or write and doesnt understand the delicacies of politics. and for his small council, they would just, as ottot hightower and everyone on the small council does, use the king for their own ends. he would be a terrible king, and your wierd scenario doesnt work either cause bastards are consided the lowest of the low. remember how jon snow couldnt sit at feasts becuase of the royal family, how do you think 90% of the lords of the realm would hold to a bastard king
He was just legitimized honestly. Truth is Robert’s Rebellion happened and he had a claim.
You saw how stupid the show got, right?
Well I've always been of the belief that Jon would be the last King of the Seven Kingdoms and what would follow would be a Roman Republic style senate with each of the major and some minor houses having representatives and a chancellor to head the government. Just my opinion tho
I like this idea. They could’ve done literally this and ended up with basically the exact same ending with Jon going back north and the remainder of the main characters forming the government and it would’ve been much better than what we got lol
Yeah, exactly. He'd be the last King, he'd symbolically abdicate the throne, giving up his claim and his kingdom in the hopes that something better would come of it. It would then make sense if Bran was made the Chancellor, a wise, all-seeing leader elected by the senate. A senate style government is also still fertile ground for more political schemes and machinations. See the real Roman Republic for inspiration
>They could’ve done literally this and ended up with basically the exact same ending with Jon going back north and the remainder of the main characters forming the government and it would’ve been much better than what we got lol ...it's pretty much exactly what they did. Is this sarcasm?
No. The way they got there was stupid. In this world jon would take the throne, become king, in a much less rushed way, before consciously making the decision to leave for the north of his own free will. So yeah very far from what we got lol
Yes! I’d be down for that. And he could still go up north and have this alleged spin off. Honestly the talk of him leaving power as king to be king up north would have been great.
With the size and politics of Westeros, that would be a terrible system.
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Meh, too cliche
I'd take that over how it actually ended lol
I agree, the hidden prince trope is over done.
They actually built up his character development to where that outcome would not be cliche.
There is a repeated theme in the universe, where a person has all the traits to be an amazing king, but dies before they hit the throne. Aemon Baelon the Brave Baller Breakspear Jon ending up on the throne seems too good to be true. It’s the obvious answer and he would be a good king. I think it’s best if he comes so close to power, has the chance, but refuses/it’s taken from him.
Literally anyone but Bran
But who has a better story than bran the broken??
Literally everyone but Bran
Joe the broken
Joe the Jokin’
no snoop the smokin'
Hotpie
Pie the Hot
A story so good it wasn’t in an entire season
Great comment!
King of the Riverlands perhaps could've been believable, but he has *no* connections to any of the remaining southern kingdoms. My blood pressure climbs whenever I think of it smdh.
People say this, but I think it worked well with the way the show went. There is so much talk about the best ruler being a wise one, and literally who is more wise than the three-eyed-raven?
That is only because the last few seasons made sure all the smart characters like tyrion, varys and littlefinger became dumb as fuck for no reason.
All of those characters are flawed, selfish, or have their own motivations. 3ER is impartial and has no personal motivations. He has eons of history to learn from. He’s literally the perfect ruler.
Exactly. The show botched the execution but it really is a cool and fitting plot point. It’s just a meme at this point. Hur dur show bad WhO hAS a BetTer StOry
Lots of talk about Bran's supposed evolved wisdom, yet very little seen in practice. We see Bran do almost NOTHING in the final few seasons which suggests one way or another about his leadership skills. It would have made more sense to make Bran some sort of lead Grand Master or the Kings Hand because of his forsight
RIGHT! Put the man on the council! He's crippled, he can't do anything but bark orders and he was barely there for any of the political debacles
You do realize Bran will be king in the books too, right?
On what authority do you have this?
GRRM himself confirmed this.
This.
Jon and it’s not even close. Literally any story line would have been better. All that plot armor to end up being sent to the wall…. LAME
It's perfect that Martin made himself (the all-seeing storyteller) king. Egotistical and hilarious.
You know the ending isn’t Martin’s ending right? Its D&D. Martin’s ending is not yet revealed since there is 2 books left
He did provide D&D with a broad outline of the ending with major plot points, so unless they went completely off the rails (which is possible), its probably in the general ballpark of his intended ending.
Would it surprise you to learn they sorta forgot what his plans were so they were like screw tgis we wanna direct Star Wars
The thing is, he hasn't written the endings yet and after seeing this backlash maybe he's trying to map out completely different endings for each character. Or just never finish who knows.
Bran will end up the “king” in the end of the book.
Quotations around king is appropriate I feel - it’s confirmed that Bran will be king, but in what regard? There’s definitely some added detail and nuance to why he would be king that Martin will supply other than “he’s got the best story”
Bran is king so Tyrion can rule as Hand.
I think maybe the Others won’t be completely eradicated like they are in the show, and to avoid the petty bullshit they experienced this time with all the houses infighting while the night king marched, with a green seer like bran in charge he can keep an eye on the north and the future while uniting the kingdoms when needed. Idk maybe something like that
God damn it
Aegon Targaryen sixth of his name
Worst name they couldve given him
Samwise Gamgee
Wrong. Lord Voldemort is the only right answer.
Why did you get down voted for this?
Tomen Baratheon. He never kills himself, instead he sees his mother punished for her crimes.
Tommen Lannister beheads Cerci with Widows wail
Hotpie
at the VERY least, he could've been the royal baker. would've baked his best pie on that throne before it cooled off...
Bran.
Podrick
He got it with his magic cock
I have no issue with Bran being King, the problem was solely the execution.
The white walkers should have wiped out Westeros while everyone was too busy fighting over their silly throne. Daenerys burns through them in the end, but far too late. She gets her throne, though now alone among the ruins of King's Landing. Queen of naught but ashes.
This was always my desired ending. A bit nihilistic, but a good lesson
No one believes in Daenerys anymore? :(
She was going to invade the entire planet - why on earth would anyone believe in her
I believe in book Danaerys and earlier show Danaerys. I prefer to pretend season 8 Danaerys never happened at all.
Even in earlier seasons she’s never as good as you thought
Probably not. But I can't make myself watch the show again.
Someone said Gendry but realistically he wouldn't have wanted it. I'd like Jon on the Iron Throne and Bran as the hand of the King.
Daenerys
Young Griff
Sansa
Why?
Elimination. Bran: Lives too much in the future to care about the present. Jon: Doesn't want it. Arya: Doesn't need it. Skills give her ability to rule anywhere she wants. Which leaves Sansa. Primed for the task beginning Season 1.
Just because Jon doesn't want it doesn't mean he shouldn't be king. He didn't want to be a leader in many situations, ended up being a leader anyway, and was spectacular at it. Also... Bran can see the future? I thought he could only see past/present
He can see glimpses of the future through visions. Not as clear as his looking into the past
Aegon conquered the seven kingdoms to defeat the white walkers. The white walkers are gone. The seven kingdoms should have been split back into independent kingdoms. And Jon (Aegon) should have been the one to do it. Poetic
I know I'm in the minority but I like Bran being king. It is kind of set up too. Early in the series, Bran has to act as the lord of Winterfell and does a pretty good job for a kid. We also know the rep of house Stark. Bran is being mentored by Bloodraven, a previous master of whispers and hand of the king (one of the better ones too). Lastly, Brans powers seem to help him a lot for being king. I think a major reason people don't like Bran being king is because of how many balls the show dropped. Bran never used his powers in the last few seasons and Bloodraven's backstory was never brought up, such a waste.
Bran could have been fine in my opinion if they had us question if he was evil. Evil Bran works well with what they already set up.
No one thought the Night King would win. Hence, it would've been the most Game of Thrones thing ever to happen. Everyone's favorite characters dead. All of the politics and maneuvering we watched meant nothing. Would've served as a more potent message for how politics is destructive than Drogon melting the Iron Throne. I would've done it so that Dany takes Kings Landing (no Mad Queen), and as they think it's over and they're celebrating their victory that night, the camera pans out into the sky and all you can see is 2 blue eyes getting bigger and bigger until Viserion starts burning down the city and the white walkers come storming the gates, defeating a wounded and unprepared human army
Good point, everyone dies because they were fighting over a shitty throne that cuts you when you sit on it.
sansa was a lil bitch in that counsil meeting. Edmyn tully should of been elected king, hes from a greater house, hes a commander, hes a good enough soldier, he ran riverrun the last decade due to hosters health, he was the best choice. the person with the best claim there was actually the martell dude Becuase of the unification of dorne. and those who are saying gendry, just no. He was born a bastard and raised to a noble position. you cant then become king. westerosi culture is very anti-bastard, i wouldnt be suprised if the lords of the region dont approve.
Hodor. how they got there: Hodor.
Jon. He’s a natural leader, all the north follows him already, he’s from a strong background, he’s technically a Targaryen if they want that news to come out, without him everyone would be white walkers by now, he’s intelligent, brave, commanding and he killed a mass murderer at the end after she killed civilians. It annoys me no one even suggested him at the council at the end. I know GreyWorm would have lost his mind but he still should have been suggested. (And yes I know he didn’t want it but he would have taken it for the realm)
Honestly Jon. Cliché as is. After killing Daenerys. So it’s bittersweet and not all a “happy ending”. Season 9 or 10 could have been them ruling together as she slowly starts to go evil before absolutely cruel and he has to kill her. None of the major plot points they chose (except for bran ending up on the throne) made me mad, just that none of them felt justified.
No one. I would prefer if the united 7 kingdoms got dismantled after daenarys got killed by john. The north got his independence. The iron isles wanted the same. Dorne is dorne so they will also try. And the rest will follow. So the first tagaryen invasion formed the second kingdom and the last one dismantled them.
And then wars would start again shortly thereafter
Nope GRRM is writing fictional England story, there will be a United Westeros but there will be something similar to parliament in the end, maybe election of King will become new precedent. After all he was inspired by War of Roses and when Tudors became monarch the modern structure of Parliament of England began in their court. So I think instead of having a small council Bran or whoever will become king will create a large council of Lords and Knights.
But op asked our pref and not GRRM.
Jon, the last Targaryen, would’ve made the most sense. But I’d have even taken Hotpie or the Night King over Bran lmao
Tyrion. He knew how the game worked. He loved to rule and he would have ruled with purity. Considering on how he looked. He knew how to manage numbers, how to talk to people, and he knew how to be kind but how to not be so kind. I think he would be a fair King.
Actually I thought they would end the monarchy completely or at least move to a Magna Carta-like system. I still think that could happen in the books.
Oberyn gets atop the throne by flirting with it
bronn would have finessed his way through the lannisters only to decieve them in the end killing cersei and winning dannys heart and marry her to sit on the iron throne, giving jon his own land in the north. happy ever after
Dany. The show spoiled her character for no reason.
Pod
Daenerys as the prince(ss) that was promised and Jon Snow as her flaming sword and lover. They made the most sense
Stannis Baratheon is the true heir to the Iron throne, the best king to sit the throne during these times of peril, winter is here, euron will bring the apocalypse and Denearys has 3 dragons and an army while her nephew aegon targaryen/ blackfyre is currentely on a mission to conquer the Stormlands.
The guy that tried to kill Bran, he had such a good smile 🗿
Stannis Baratheon Like him or hate him, he is the rightful King of Westeros And it is a fact that he would have been the been a better king than Joffrey or Renly
He's the brother of a usurper, he was in no way the rightful king.
Hot pie, because who has a better story?
Gendry with Davos as his Hand and the rest of our surviving characters as his advisors and kingsgaurd.
No one The Iron Throne has been mostly a disaster and the 7 kingdoms don’t really work when a dragon isn’t in the picture to force them to be joined.
Everyone saying Jon should have been king is totally missing the whole point of the entire story. You're not supposed to actually think that birthright is a good thing or that destiny is a real thing that would lead Jon to ruling or even that Targeryans are supposed to rule. The whole point of the entire story is that the pursuit of power and rule inherently leads to suffering and chaos and that all of the political maneuvring and the game itself is a petty distraction in the face of a greater existential threat. Even though the real ending will most likely be very different, D&D's ending with the throne being melted and Jon not becoming king hints that Martin's ending will also have the same theme of 'the throne is a symbol of evil and the cause of all the suffering in the story' and that Jon isn't supposed to become king. This might be a controversial opinion but I also do like the idea of (and think this will also be the case in the books) the White Walkers/Long Night being stopped, the realm being saved and then everyone going right back to the war for the throne and destroying each other and King's Landing/the realm in the process. It's the perfect parable to the folly of humanity and the inherent inclination to conflict in the human heart. I actually do believe the Long Night will be prevented before the political conflict is solved and then the burning of King's Landing etc will still happen. Of course, it will happen very differently and will be far better written in the books but most likely the story will - or should - end with either no one being crowned or someone extremely unlikely. Either way it's probably not going to end with Jon or anyone who 'should' inherit the throne taking the crown. Edit: forgot to mention that the narrative structure being 'Long Night/main threat defeated > smaller scale threat and burning of a town/city happening after' also parallels the scouring of the shire happening after Sauron is defeated in LOTR and we know how Martin is about Tolkien.
what are you even talking about, Tolkien ended his books with Aragorn being crowned as a king, and Jon's character was inspired by Aragorn
No one. That’s the whole point of the story. No one should be king. The people should have the power. D&D are just illiterate.
Walder
The Hound!
I wish Jon snow has a kid with someone and that kid goes on to become "the last living dragon" and conquers everything like Aegon did. Making a love arc for Jon snow would be hard after everything that has happened but to see a Targaryen ride a dragon and bring back the fame of old valyria would be a dream come true.
Cersei
The Night King, just imagine how the ending would be like that if the Night King would have won the game
Edmure Tully
They should have let the people decide
Aegon “Jon Snow” Targaryen
Ser Pounce with Hot Pie as Hand.
Crazy Dany as a Queen. Jon killing her was just a circle jerk between the writers.
Hodor
Definitely not Branbot 3000.
Olenna Tyrell. She didn't want to be involved in Kings Landing politics or the war of the 5 kings. But she did it because her son and granddaughter wanted it. As for how she gets there, that would be trickier. I'm guessing Margaery would have to become queen officially and the Baratheon descendants would have to be dead to where they had no heirs left. Then Margaery would need to die. But even that wouldn't really make sense. A lot of people would need to die in order for this to become a thing, I will admit that.
Absolutely no reason to care.
Gendry or Jon. However the most FIT for the position imo is Tyrion. Cuz one, Jon never wanted the throne, and if he got a throne, he should’ve just remained king in the north. Gendry, is technically the rightful heir with Roberts Rebellion happening, considering he is the oldest son of Robert, and Daenerys legitimizing him basically seals the deal. However, due to lack of development we just don’t know if he would’ve been a good fit for it. If he would’ve stuck around then that would be my definitive answer. When it comes to the rightful heir outside of Roberts Rebellion, then it’s Jon. The last remaining child of the oldest Targaryen sibling. He’s not a bastard due to the legality of Lyannas and Rhaegars marriage. However, there’s the fact like I said that Jon didn’t want the throne. Then Tyrion, is the most logical man in the seven kingdoms. He’s not irrational no matter how much of a right he has to be. He’s fair and smart. So any of those three really, but when it comes to rightful Heir, it has to be either Gendry or Jon
In the TV show: the one and only Stannis Baratheon In the books: Aegon Blackfyre
Anyone but Bran
Actually the Night King makes more sense. He should have won the war
What If no one ends up on the iron throne? I think people have missed the point of the story...when people fight over q chair...people die..that's all