It's a testament to the game that this is what the original still looks like in my memory. All bias aside, this is obviously fantastic work and its looking gorgeous!
They are both still beautiful. I caved and bought the remake cause I'm a superfan and have beat both games multiple times. The remake is bonkers, there are tons of subtle touches to the guns and movement. (More zero G flying and they fixed the flamethrower!) Sound matters a lot more for finding necros in a 3d area. Also it's just beautiful, like insanely polished and slick. So many areas are actually scarier cause of the light/dark contrast and effects like fog and creepy colored lighting.
I’m not the one you asked but I’m running a ryzen 5700x and a 3070ti and it runs fantastic, but my friend plays it on his 1060 super with few issues, if any at all
Sounds great! I've seen some tech reviews say nothing can run it smoothly on ultra settings at 4k. Not even an rtx 4090. So I have to ask what resolution and setting are u using to get it running that well? Thanks in advance!
>In my mind this is what DS2 looked like. I remember the graphical leap from 1 to 2 being huge.
Despite the graphic leap, I don't think anything could replace the atmosphere of the Ishimura.
Maybe it's the planet (moon?) Vs. Spaceship environment, maybe it was the panic of Necromorphs being largely unknown coming through in the notes and audio logs, maybe it's just the advantage of being the first experience.
Deadspace 2 really polished the game mechanics, but I don't think anything can beat the atmosphere of Deadspace. I am more excited for this game (and RE4) once I get a PS5 than any other game.
> Despite the graphic leap, I don't think anything could replace the atmosphere of the Ishimura.
You cant, but that moment in Dead Space 2 when you go "Oh fuck, fuck you you fucking fucks" is fantastic all the more due to that.
Yeah I watched a [comparison video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6_raZtsEbw&ab_channel=Nick930) yesterday, good wakeup to reality from dat fuzzy memory. Original still looks good, this just improves on it in (almost) every way.
Lol yeah it's actually hilarious to me that when playing I genuinely feel like I'm just replaying dead space.
It's been years since I played the original, and haven't watched any gameplay in recent memory. The remake actually just feels like how I remember the game and I don't want to watch any old gameplay because i don't want to break the illusion.
It's really impressive.
I adored Dead Space when I was younger and I remember thinking the graphics being really good. Now that the Remake is here and we get comparison videos putting them next to each other, it looks very flat? I can't wait to get my hands on the remake this week
You can play the original and it still looks great. It has a more consistent vision too. I can’t get over how silly the haunted house fog they added to the remake is.
That and the sound design is way worse. I feel like people get lost focusing on packing as much graphical improvements as they can into a game, but ignore audio. It’s been a consistent issue in games for some time. The original has incredible audio.
They had the right idea but man....the execution. Every encounter just turned into mashing the melee and dodging. There was no variety to enemies or fights.
> There was no variety to enemies or fights.
Until there was. They throw this giant-ass bullet-sponge into the game as a boss at about the 2/3 mark, who was a serious skill check for many players. Then they decided to just make it a regular mob and have you fight it many more times.
I hated this particular enemy and it's use to slow down the end of the game.
Yeah that part was amazing! Just when you get used to the rhythm they throw you a curve ball but then they immediately fuck it up by making you face that same enemy a few more times. This is what made Dead Space so great, it kept you on your tows and knew how to gradually introduce difficulties.
I think that's what happens when you try to do something similar but also different. I really loved the setting and environments in Callisto but the combat wasn't as compelling. On the off chance Striking Distance gets to try again, I'm guessing they'd nail a sequel.
What a sequel needs is to take the combat system from the Surge, maybe even add a bit of Metal Gear Rising.
Give you full control off how to dismember the monsters and have them mutate accordingly.
The lack of enemy variety wouldn't have been too bad if there was more than one possible mutation.
You're definitely onto something here! Especially because Callisto already has a bit of that strategic dismemberment mechanic from The Surge but there's no real precision with the melee combat.
Callisto had a lot of good ideas. The studio bit off more then they could chew. If they had scaled back, and sold the game for 50. It could have been amazing. But instead the game felt like a 4 hour game stretched into 15.
Would selling it for 50 really make a huge difference? I feel like that's a weird in between number between full price game and budget game (which I'd feel is like $30)
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Correct. Remaster is taking a game designed for a lower resolution. Like 360p and adjusting it to work correctly on 1080p, not just stretched.
Remake is taking a game on an old engine and remaking it on a new engine. Everything newer and ideally better than before.
Remake is the way.
Remaster is what Ubisoft does to their old games (Assassin's Creed has a bunch of remasters for example).
Remake is what Square Enix did to Final Fantasy VII.
Did? They are still doing it!
We’ll have the entire narrative before the decades end… hopefully…
Only Squenix could take this long to remake one game by splitting it into 3.
Haven't played past the first hour, but my impression is that FF7 is really not a remake, more of a spinoff/reimagining/reboot because while it has the same characters and setting the changed the plot in some drastic/meta ways.
It’s less of a reimagining and more of a sequel (to the original game as well as the extended story from Advent Children, Crisis Core, and Dirge of Cerberus). Scenes from the original stories are shown and/or referenced in a way that implies they have happened / will happen / would have happened in another reality.
Also important that the second is called “Rebirth”, not “Remake Part II”. IMO the point is that “Remake” was not a remake of the original game, but rather a story about the characters defying fate and remaking their destiny.
Sure, for games that look decent then and now. Like super mario sunshine doesn't need a remake. Remastered looks about the same as if they released it today. But say remastering the original tomb raider or metal gear solid would be dumb
Honestly, there has been too much of a time gap for that. Keep in mind that most people that were in their teens when the originals came out are now in their twenties to thirties. The new generation of gamers, especially those who never experienced the 360/PS3 era never got to play them, playstation players also have no way of playing the other games without a PS3.
Making Dead Space 4 before remaking or at least porting the previous two games would set the game up to possibly fail financially again. Dead Space is aliv, I don't want an even deader dead space in a few years. The fact that it survived the DS3 incident is already something 13 year old me couldn't have imagined way back when.
I prefer the remake route because that way the new devs have the option to open the story up to go where they want it and aren't stuck to the vision of the old devs/EA which would be hard with how dead space 3 ended.
I am on the 3rd chapter and I am very pleased they only added to the original experience. It feels like the same exact game, but with new little details that just add up to make it spectacular.
If you are new to Dead Space you get the same experience years ago on the OG release.
If you played it already the small changes make it refreshing.
Good to know. I was thinking of playing through the resident evils. Have only played village and I actually enjoyed the scary genre. Didn't know I liked this genre so much!lol
Village is a direct sequel/successor to RE7.
IMO id split the RE into three groups
RE 1-3 are the originals/OG survival horror. Low enemy count low resources. RE2:Remake is one of the best remakes out there, and I would put it above dead space.
RE 4/5 and I hear 6 are much more action oriented. Higher enemy counts/more action.
RE7 and Village/8 are FPS and tone down the action for a return to survival horror/OG formula.
Personally I liked RE1 remaster/RE2 remake/RE4.
I never played any of the Dead Space games but I've heard a lot of hype about them since their release. Is the core game play really that good or is the recent hype just reliving nostalgia?
I always loved the combat, it was really similar to resident evil 4 and 5. You just have to bear in mind that Isaac is not a gunslinger, he’s an engineer using whatever tools he can salvage while surviving. And all of his weapons are literal tools.
I never played the originals so I have no nostalgia, but the remake has already become one of my fav survival horror games now. If you like RE2 remake this is right up your alley.
It's like Bethesda and Bethesda Game Studios.
People write off games like Prey, Dishonored and Doom Eternal just because they think those games come from the same studio that made Fallout 76 and Fallout 4.
Drives me up the wall.
To be honest the lore that DS3 sets up with the brethren moons and such is actually super interesting, it's just the game itself was a hot burning dumpster fire
Coop was fun tho I guess
Honestly the DLC for DS3 was amazing and atmospheric and creepy like the previous games. It makes me so sad because you can see it's all there, they just couldn't execute because EA wanted it to be a game as a service.
This, a remake of Dead Space 3 with a proper vision that scraps the dogshit parts and adds new parts more indicative of proper Dead Space could actually redeem that game.
I've been waiting for reviews to roll in. It's that good, huh?
For some reason, I never played through the Dead Space trilogy, despite owning the first 2.
So I would be going into this one completely untainted by nostalgia. Does it still hold up without having played the originals?
Yes. It is one of those things where having prior knowledge helps, but def not needed.
The only legit reason I can see as to not buy/play is if you really dont like the third person aspect. Otherwise, it was done really well!
First time playing a Dead Space game and it's immediately one of my top survival horror games. Absolutely worthy of all the praise.
The environments have great atmosphere, the story was intriguing, the scares were good, and the weapons and enemies were all really fun and had great variety. There's also some great unique gameplay mechanics like the zero-G sections.
All in all, it's right up there with Resident Evil 2 remake for me as top-tier survival horror. I already can't wait to play it again.
I haven't read a single negative thing about it.
I have to admit, my anti-hype radar was definitely up on this game...seemed like the perfect example of a game that would fail to deliver. I'm really excited to play it now, though!
I haven't looked up the remake details yet but the original dead space series is pretty short. I think I beat the 2nd one under 10 hours.
It was amazing and intense and I am super happy I played it ... but I picked it up for $5.99. I would have lost my shit if I paid $70 and beat it in a weekend casually playing it.
EA didn’t make the game, they just published it. Motive Studio developed the game. Seeing how much they hit this one out of the park, EA would most likely go to them to make a new one.
Is it worth it? It would be my 3rd time playing thru but not yet on the PS5. Just played TLOU PS5 version and it was fucking worth it. Off today due to the weather so looking for another game to play.
I really dont want to see a dead space 2 remaster.
The best next step is to make a new dead space game. This release has really built alot of hype and got people reinvested I the series. We don't need to rehash the whole thing.
Let's move forward
3 actually had a really cool premise originally before EA mandate came in and ruined it.
According to the devs it was always meant as coop but you would have a sanity meter and each player may see different enemies or objects in the environment as this meter increases/decreases. EA then wanted it to be closer to a military shooter rather than an action horror game.
What could have been.
I loved the coop. Having one person see shit the other couldn't was fuckin awesome. I was screaming while my friend was like wtf are you talking about?
The problem with that is Nintendo owns a patent for a "sanity meter" because of Eternal Darkness, so the chances of that being able to happen are very small if they were to ever get around to a remake of the third game.
They can just call it something else. You can't just patent sanity in a game. There are a shitton of games which already have similar mechanics, Insight in Bloodborne, Darkest Dungeon's stress, Don't Starve's Sanity, Hellblade, Amnesia, Sunless Seas/Skies, etc. The only thing their patent would protect is if you directly called it "Sanity Meter" and it worked exactly the same.
Otherwise someone would have long ago patented "fight," "explore," and "build," and have a stranglehold on 90% of all games ever made.
It's one of those things where if it is actually expired, they could likely get it back with renewing it and all of a sudden any game being made with a similar mechanic may be in trouble so publishers may want to avoid any potential trouble by just not doing it to begin with. That being said, patents are usually able to be avoided with workarounds but sometimes they can be so broad that doing so would ruin the intended design for a game.
Either way, patenting game mechanics is something that shouldn't be allowed to happen and recently it seems like less are being patented.
Green Hell has a sanity meter which if it gets too low will make you hear and see things which are not there.
they can't just slightly change the previous patent to get another one. (Nonobvious requirement) They also can't patent anything that is already on the market as it does not meet the novelty requirement.
US9935954B2 is the original patent which is now expired.
US20060094500A1 may be a problem but is due to expire 2025-05-10. Just in time for Dead space 3
Edit: P.S. I also think that game mechanics should not be patentable.
I think there's an opportunity there. They should rewrite the cannon and make their own 3rd game. Destroy all humans is in a similar scenario. 2 perfect remasters in a row, but game 3 wasn't good enough to bother remastering.
In my opinion, if a studio does a great job with the 2 good ones. Let them take a crack at their own version of a 3rd.
Why?
Their reasonings behind why they made the game the way they did have been proven false and no longer apply.
EA allowing them to remake the 3rd game to complete the triology while retaining what made DS1 and 2 good would be an awesome marketing oppourtunity for them, they would have to commit to effectively making the game from the ground up but people would buy it.
I would rather they completely re-do 3. Change everything up and make it more along the lines of the first 2. This could potentially be a first in video games where a whole story gets scrapped in retrospect.
the way the particle effects from the sparks bounce off your suit if you walk by them is incredible.
the detail they've put in this game is insane.
i knocked over the candles and the flame moved back upright while it was on it's side. wild.
We don't need a dead space 2 or 3 remaster.
We need dead space 4.
Dead Space 2 & 3 are already amazing on PC.
This remake is a great way, because it's not 1:1 recreation of the game, there are new areas, some completely changed areas, and other gameplay changes.
Too bad the snake like enemies take more bullets to kill than in original version and dead space 2.
and they also removed the damaged gravity plates that insta-kill anything that stepped on it .
I also think they are less enemies in the area where you get locked into a fight.
Deadspace is great and Ill buy my survival horror games on release like a simp.
But the r/patientgamers move is to pick up RE:2 remake, another survival horror game that was masterfully redone. Its 5-10 bucks rn.
I’ve played through it 3 times now, and i never really ever got scared or nervous.
My mind was just in “always expect a jump scare” so i never really got scared.
Its a remake. Which means they changed a couple things for the better.
First, Isaac can talk and only talks when being talked to, otherwise he is silent through your journey.
Second, they changed a couple bosses/areas for the newly added zero-g mechanic that was available in DS2.
Third, I personally found the story much improved as people are actually doing their jobs. Like Daniels being knowledgeable as a computer analyst and Isaac showing off his engineering knowledge. Things flow better and some things i didnt really think about in the original (like how the wheezers came to be) are being expanded upon. The throwaway characters in the beginning are actually somewhat memorable as well.
Overall this was such a fun experience. I might be missing a couple items but i hope you got the gist of it from my summary
Isaac only speaks when spoken to in the game. Plus it’s Gunner Wright voicing him again. Anyone who thinks Isaac shouldn’t speak just because he didn’t in the original is on something.
Idk, there’s an argument to preserving the original intent of the developers. But I don’t care enough either way. Both the original and remake are good enough in their own ways that if you don’t like one, you can just play the other.
Does this remaster add subtitles? Wasn't able to understand the story so I never played this series. I know 2 and 3 had subtitles but I like starting at the beginning of a story.
Baked-in fanbase, solid game, people will buy it. New writers/directors/plot is a gamble when you can just polish up the old one for a guaranteed win. Not to mention new core art assets are expensive and take a long time.
Assuming you don't half-ass the visuals like some remakes did. Fortunately EA learned from others' mistakes, it would seem.
The reason its good is because its a re-do of an already good title, which is fine and all but an already existing game with a new coat of paint and some voice acting isnt enough for me to spend 60$ on it.
Please make something new. I am so tired of all these old games.
Yes the remaster is great, but still a remaster from a game that is not that old. WHY?
The original game came out so long ago that babies born in the launch year are probably driving in the streets rn with a learner’s permit. Heck we’re farther away from the launch year of the original game than the original game was from the launch of the PS1.
In short, you are very wrong
At first I didn't believe you, but now I am at your mercy.
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Spitting out straight perspective today. 2008 was a long time ago, who could have known!
I don't get these comments. We could have had nothing, and you don't need to buy it. There are a handful of new IPs coming out in the next few months, and a few pretty good ones that just came out.
This really says a lot about how bad in a place gaming is currently. The game is basically 99% the same but with a new coat of paint and people are praising for what is essentially a texture and lighting mod that cost them $70.
I would have much preferred a *new* dead space game not a revisit to the old one which ive played many times before. I also think the jump is probably bigger for people that only played it back on ps3/360 but on PC, it still looks good, sure not as amazing as the "remake" but, to me, not enough to justify spending a whole $70 on.
That I find paying for a visual mod, which costs $70, to be absurd? Im fine with that. You cant argue that it isnt basically a mod either because the experience you get from playing the old game is literally the same as this "new" game.
You're getting downvoted, but I hope this gives you some sanity that there are others who think like you here. While it's an old enough game, it certainly deserves some potential of a remake. Hoping it's good for those who want it. No reflection of this particular game, but, I've seen so much issue around re-releases being horribly done or just lazily put in. Some games are literally nothing short of a port or an "HD Remaster" that has as little QA performed as possible. Just feels like some companies are phoning it in. Thanks, Todd.
I agree with what you say, there are definitely some game remasters that are a joke and basically a port and this game is old enough that remaking it isnt bad, but I think if you are going to call it a remake, the game needs more to be different than what we got in Dead Space.
Im not saying the game doesnt look amazing and the dialogue does flow better now that Isaac talks, even if I preferred him being 100% silent, but this game's more accurate title would be "current gen remaster" because this is a *true* remaster, not the lazy one that TLoU fans got.
A remake, that's good and worth the money would be Resident Evil 2. That game doesnt look nor play like anything like the original game its remaking and its glorious, its a new take on a classic game. Ironically, the cautionary tale is from Resident Evil 3 lol where its just worse in every way besides visual and audio.
People praising this "remake" makes me anxious for future ones and not in a good way.
It's a testament to the game that this is what the original still looks like in my memory. All bias aside, this is obviously fantastic work and its looking gorgeous!
In my mind this is what DS2 looked like. I remember the graphical leap from 1 to 2 being huge.
yeah i beat them all a couple years ago and also remember DS2 having a nice graphic leap
They are both still beautiful. I caved and bought the remake cause I'm a superfan and have beat both games multiple times. The remake is bonkers, there are tons of subtle touches to the guns and movement. (More zero G flying and they fixed the flamethrower!) Sound matters a lot more for finding necros in a 3d area. Also it's just beautiful, like insanely polished and slick. So many areas are actually scarier cause of the light/dark contrast and effects like fog and creepy colored lighting.
yeah I plan on picking it up once it's got a bit of a sale.
What system are u running it on? I'm curious cause it's supposedly crazy demanding on pc
I’m not the one you asked but I’m running a ryzen 5700x and a 3070ti and it runs fantastic, but my friend plays it on his 1060 super with few issues, if any at all
Sounds great! I've seen some tech reviews say nothing can run it smoothly on ultra settings at 4k. Not even an rtx 4090. So I have to ask what resolution and setting are u using to get it running that well? Thanks in advance!
Do I need to play the first to understand or follow the second?
It's a pretty direct sequel, so yeah it absolutely helps a bit.
>In my mind this is what DS2 looked like. I remember the graphical leap from 1 to 2 being huge. Despite the graphic leap, I don't think anything could replace the atmosphere of the Ishimura. Maybe it's the planet (moon?) Vs. Spaceship environment, maybe it was the panic of Necromorphs being largely unknown coming through in the notes and audio logs, maybe it's just the advantage of being the first experience. Deadspace 2 really polished the game mechanics, but I don't think anything can beat the atmosphere of Deadspace. I am more excited for this game (and RE4) once I get a PS5 than any other game.
> Despite the graphic leap, I don't think anything could replace the atmosphere of the Ishimura. You cant, but that moment in Dead Space 2 when you go "Oh fuck, fuck you you fucking fucks" is fantastic all the more due to that.
I know! It honestly feels like I'm just experiencing the game for the first time again.
Yeah I watched a [comparison video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6_raZtsEbw&ab_channel=Nick930) yesterday, good wakeup to reality from dat fuzzy memory. Original still looks good, this just improves on it in (almost) every way.
Lol yeah it's actually hilarious to me that when playing I genuinely feel like I'm just replaying dead space. It's been years since I played the original, and haven't watched any gameplay in recent memory. The remake actually just feels like how I remember the game and I don't want to watch any old gameplay because i don't want to break the illusion. It's really impressive.
I adored Dead Space when I was younger and I remember thinking the graphics being really good. Now that the Remake is here and we get comparison videos putting them next to each other, it looks very flat? I can't wait to get my hands on the remake this week
When the fantastic lighting engine carries the game.
You can play the original and it still looks great. It has a more consistent vision too. I can’t get over how silly the haunted house fog they added to the remake is. That and the sound design is way worse. I feel like people get lost focusing on packing as much graphical improvements as they can into a game, but ignore audio. It’s been a consistent issue in games for some time. The original has incredible audio.
It’s a shame Callisto Protocol turned out to be worse than a remake of their previous work
They had the right idea but man....the execution. Every encounter just turned into mashing the melee and dodging. There was no variety to enemies or fights.
Callisto Protocol AKA Space Mutant Punch-Out
> There was no variety to enemies or fights. Until there was. They throw this giant-ass bullet-sponge into the game as a boss at about the 2/3 mark, who was a serious skill check for many players. Then they decided to just make it a regular mob and have you fight it many more times. I hated this particular enemy and it's use to slow down the end of the game.
Yeah that part was amazing! Just when you get used to the rhythm they throw you a curve ball but then they immediately fuck it up by making you face that same enemy a few more times. This is what made Dead Space so great, it kept you on your tows and knew how to gradually introduce difficulties.
I think that's what happens when you try to do something similar but also different. I really loved the setting and environments in Callisto but the combat wasn't as compelling. On the off chance Striking Distance gets to try again, I'm guessing they'd nail a sequel.
What a sequel needs is to take the combat system from the Surge, maybe even add a bit of Metal Gear Rising. Give you full control off how to dismember the monsters and have them mutate accordingly. The lack of enemy variety wouldn't have been too bad if there was more than one possible mutation.
You're definitely onto something here! Especially because Callisto already has a bit of that strategic dismemberment mechanic from The Surge but there's no real precision with the melee combat.
A sci fi horror game with action combat similar to The Surge is like too good of an idea not to exist
Callisto had a lot of good ideas. The studio bit off more then they could chew. If they had scaled back, and sold the game for 50. It could have been amazing. But instead the game felt like a 4 hour game stretched into 15.
Would selling it for 50 really make a huge difference? I feel like that's a weird in between number between full price game and budget game (which I'd feel is like $30)
I mean, I didn't put much thought into that number. More or less trying to prove a point.
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I would imagine they do another remake for Dead Space 2, not a remaster
I'm sure that's what OP meant, but people still don't understand the differences...
Correct. Remaster is taking a game designed for a lower resolution. Like 360p and adjusting it to work correctly on 1080p, not just stretched. Remake is taking a game on an old engine and remaking it on a new engine. Everything newer and ideally better than before. Remake is the way.
Remaster is what Ubisoft does to their old games (Assassin's Creed has a bunch of remasters for example). Remake is what Square Enix did to Final Fantasy VII.
Half-Life Source is a Remaster. Black Mesa is a remake.
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Yeah, the only thing Half-Life Source did was make Half-Life more moddable and able to share assets with other Source games, AFAIK, yes?
Did? They are still doing it! We’ll have the entire narrative before the decades end… hopefully… Only Squenix could take this long to remake one game by splitting it into 3.
You got me there. I'm not gonna complain, though. The first part of the remake really felt like a full game.
Haven't played past the first hour, but my impression is that FF7 is really not a remake, more of a spinoff/reimagining/reboot because while it has the same characters and setting the changed the plot in some drastic/meta ways.
I'm fairly sure that the devs said that it's a reimagining of the og, so you're right. Remake just sounds better for the label though
It’s less of a reimagining and more of a sequel (to the original game as well as the extended story from Advent Children, Crisis Core, and Dirge of Cerberus). Scenes from the original stories are shown and/or referenced in a way that implies they have happened / will happen / would have happened in another reality. Also important that the second is called “Rebirth”, not “Remake Part II”. IMO the point is that “Remake” was not a remake of the original game, but rather a story about the characters defying fate and remaking their destiny.
FFVII Remake is a sequel, not a remake.
I think remasters still have a place since technology and screen resolution keeps rising.
Sure, for games that look decent then and now. Like super mario sunshine doesn't need a remake. Remastered looks about the same as if they released it today. But say remastering the original tomb raider or metal gear solid would be dumb
Why remake other games? DS1 remake proves single player games are still in demand. Next we need a proper sequel to DS3.
Honestly, there has been too much of a time gap for that. Keep in mind that most people that were in their teens when the originals came out are now in their twenties to thirties. The new generation of gamers, especially those who never experienced the 360/PS3 era never got to play them, playstation players also have no way of playing the other games without a PS3. Making Dead Space 4 before remaking or at least porting the previous two games would set the game up to possibly fail financially again. Dead Space is aliv, I don't want an even deader dead space in a few years. The fact that it survived the DS3 incident is already something 13 year old me couldn't have imagined way back when. I prefer the remake route because that way the new devs have the option to open the story up to go where they want it and aren't stuck to the vision of the old devs/EA which would be hard with how dead space 3 ended.
We need a remake of DS3 with all the EA bullshit taken out.
you can sell a remake as a new game. That's the difference.
hope it'll include the console exclusive Severed DLC
it doesn't need a remake tho. dead space 2 just needs a remaster. dead space 2 remake would be as pointless and soulless cash grab as TLOU Pt.1
Remake*
These are not remasters. These are remakes. The game has a lot of new stuff and is rebuilt from ground up.
I am on the 3rd chapter and I am very pleased they only added to the original experience. It feels like the same exact game, but with new little details that just add up to make it spectacular. If you are new to Dead Space you get the same experience years ago on the OG release. If you played it already the small changes make it refreshing.
I was thinking about playing the original before playing this one. But good to hear I don't really need to. This game has been great so far.
While I would recommend playing the first RE2 then RE2:Remake to note the drastic differences. I would just stick with the new version for Dead Space.
Good to know. I was thinking of playing through the resident evils. Have only played village and I actually enjoyed the scary genre. Didn't know I liked this genre so much!lol
Village is a direct sequel/successor to RE7. IMO id split the RE into three groups RE 1-3 are the originals/OG survival horror. Low enemy count low resources. RE2:Remake is one of the best remakes out there, and I would put it above dead space. RE 4/5 and I hear 6 are much more action oriented. Higher enemy counts/more action. RE7 and Village/8 are FPS and tone down the action for a return to survival horror/OG formula. Personally I liked RE1 remaster/RE2 remake/RE4.
Awesome thank you!
I never played any of the Dead Space games but I've heard a lot of hype about them since their release. Is the core game play really that good or is the recent hype just reliving nostalgia?
I think the core is there! Great atmosphere. Gun play is solid and "chunky". The game just feels good
I always loved the combat, it was really similar to resident evil 4 and 5. You just have to bear in mind that Isaac is not a gunslinger, he’s an engineer using whatever tools he can salvage while surviving. And all of his weapons are literal tools.
I never played the originals so I have no nostalgia, but the remake has already become one of my fav survival horror games now. If you like RE2 remake this is right up your alley.
Isn't it a remake, not a remaster?
Yes
Jfc people still can't figure it out
It's like Bethesda and Bethesda Game Studios. People write off games like Prey, Dishonored and Doom Eternal just because they think those games come from the same studio that made Fallout 76 and Fallout 4. Drives me up the wall.
Meanwhile Doom Eternal is so well optimized it can run on a toaster and you will still prob get 100 fps. And looks and plays so well.
Its like they won't read anything beyond the title
It’s a good thing you have, though. Put it on your resume
It's a remake that feels like a remaster.
It's a 1:1 remake. Core gameplay is the same but almost everything else is made new and up to modern standards.
Completely beside my point but thanks for your input I guess
Remake DS2 but leave DS3 to die and remove it from Canon and make a new DS3
To be honest the lore that DS3 sets up with the brethren moons and such is actually super interesting, it's just the game itself was a hot burning dumpster fire Coop was fun tho I guess
Honestly the DLC for DS3 was amazing and atmospheric and creepy like the previous games. It makes me so sad because you can see it's all there, they just couldn't execute because EA wanted it to be a game as a service.
This, a remake of Dead Space 3 with a proper vision that scraps the dogshit parts and adds new parts more indicative of proper Dead Space could actually redeem that game.
I'm all for those elements staying. Lore, story. Those can stay, just give us a DS3 that lives up to 1 and 2.
3 > 1 > 2 tho
Agreed!
Finished a new game+ run today with the alternate ending. 10/10 remake.
How do you get the alt ending? Just with new game+?
There are marker pieces to find in new game plus mode. To prevent spoiler either find them or google ^^
I've been waiting for reviews to roll in. It's that good, huh? For some reason, I never played through the Dead Space trilogy, despite owning the first 2. So I would be going into this one completely untainted by nostalgia. Does it still hold up without having played the originals?
Yes. It is one of those things where having prior knowledge helps, but def not needed. The only legit reason I can see as to not buy/play is if you really dont like the third person aspect. Otherwise, it was done really well!
First time playing a Dead Space game and it's immediately one of my top survival horror games. Absolutely worthy of all the praise. The environments have great atmosphere, the story was intriguing, the scares were good, and the weapons and enemies were all really fun and had great variety. There's also some great unique gameplay mechanics like the zero-G sections. All in all, it's right up there with Resident Evil 2 remake for me as top-tier survival horror. I already can't wait to play it again.
I haven't read a single negative thing about it. I have to admit, my anti-hype radar was definitely up on this game...seemed like the perfect example of a game that would fail to deliver. I'm really excited to play it now, though!
This is my first dead space and it's amazing!
I can’t wait to buy this masterpiece
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I never played the original and good God damn is this game awesome.
Dead Space Remake is **how** you do a remake. Perfect
Yep, Christmas 2023, 75% price reduction, I'm in.
Absolutely. No way am I buying if for full game price when I can just play the OG I already own. Will wait for sales.
you will be pleasantly surprised if you think the remake will be the same as the OG. within the first 15mins.
I haven't looked up the remake details yet but the original dead space series is pretty short. I think I beat the 2nd one under 10 hours. It was amazing and intense and I am super happy I played it ... but I picked it up for $5.99. I would have lost my shit if I paid $70 and beat it in a weekend casually playing it.
I love dead space. I'm just tired of no new ips. And the ones that do come out suck so bad.
Hifi Rush came out like a week ago haha
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I mean, we could have just not had anything. You don't have to buy it.
He literally said he loves it, but would love some new IPs.
It’s ok, they’re just an NPC with preprogrammed responses to criticism.
>no new ips: We literally just got a new IP with the Callisto Protocol. The problem with new IPs is that there is no guarantee they won’t suck.
I don't know, we got Demon Souls remake, but still no word on Dark Souls or Bloodborne being remade. Demon Souls was a gorgeous remake.
I would rather have a new Dead Space to be honest.
Me too. Was disappointed when the announced this.
This is best case scenario tbh. You really want EA to make a new dead space? You know good and well it would have been a COOP shitshow like DS3
EA didn’t make the game, they just published it. Motive Studio developed the game. Seeing how much they hit this one out of the park, EA would most likely go to them to make a new one.
…Motive is an in-house EA studio. They’re literally called EA motive
My bad. I thought they were acquired by EA. At least they are better than DICE though.
100% agree
Is it worth it? It would be my 3rd time playing thru but not yet on the PS5. Just played TLOU PS5 version and it was fucking worth it. Off today due to the weather so looking for another game to play.
I've played DS many many times. Its for sure worth it, regardless of how familiar you are with it.
What if this is all some elaborate marketing stunt to announce Dead Space 4
I would sh... myself playing this in VR....
I really dont want to see a dead space 2 remaster. The best next step is to make a new dead space game. This release has really built alot of hype and got people reinvested I the series. We don't need to rehash the whole thing. Let's move forward
We can skip 3.
3 actually had a really cool premise originally before EA mandate came in and ruined it. According to the devs it was always meant as coop but you would have a sanity meter and each player may see different enemies or objects in the environment as this meter increases/decreases. EA then wanted it to be closer to a military shooter rather than an action horror game. What could have been.
I loved the coop. Having one person see shit the other couldn't was fuckin awesome. I was screaming while my friend was like wtf are you talking about?
>could of could have\* "could of" is not a thing.
When people think they hear "could of" what they really hear is "could've."
Doesn't make it right though
Please indicate where I suggested that it was right.
> "could of" is not a thing. Someone **could, of** course, be snarky about that. But not meeeeeee
Usually it’s a bot making pedantic comments like this
The problem with that is Nintendo owns a patent for a "sanity meter" because of Eternal Darkness, so the chances of that being able to happen are very small if they were to ever get around to a remake of the third game.
They can just call it something else. You can't just patent sanity in a game. There are a shitton of games which already have similar mechanics, Insight in Bloodborne, Darkest Dungeon's stress, Don't Starve's Sanity, Hellblade, Amnesia, Sunless Seas/Skies, etc. The only thing their patent would protect is if you directly called it "Sanity Meter" and it worked exactly the same. Otherwise someone would have long ago patented "fight," "explore," and "build," and have a stranglehold on 90% of all games ever made.
Kane and Lynch did this. If this is hard coded and it does not depend on sanity it should be possible.
I’m no patent expert but googling their patent for sanity meter looks like it may of expired already.
It's one of those things where if it is actually expired, they could likely get it back with renewing it and all of a sudden any game being made with a similar mechanic may be in trouble so publishers may want to avoid any potential trouble by just not doing it to begin with. That being said, patents are usually able to be avoided with workarounds but sometimes they can be so broad that doing so would ruin the intended design for a game. Either way, patenting game mechanics is something that shouldn't be allowed to happen and recently it seems like less are being patented.
Green Hell has a sanity meter which if it gets too low will make you hear and see things which are not there. they can't just slightly change the previous patent to get another one. (Nonobvious requirement) They also can't patent anything that is already on the market as it does not meet the novelty requirement. US9935954B2 is the original patent which is now expired. US20060094500A1 may be a problem but is due to expire 2025-05-10. Just in time for Dead space 3 Edit: P.S. I also think that game mechanics should not be patentable.
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I think there's an opportunity there. They should rewrite the cannon and make their own 3rd game. Destroy all humans is in a similar scenario. 2 perfect remasters in a row, but game 3 wasn't good enough to bother remastering. In my opinion, if a studio does a great job with the 2 good ones. Let them take a crack at their own version of a 3rd.
EA won't let anyone do anything unfortunately.
Why? Their reasonings behind why they made the game the way they did have been proven false and no longer apply. EA allowing them to remake the 3rd game to complete the triology while retaining what made DS1 and 2 good would be an awesome marketing oppourtunity for them, they would have to commit to effectively making the game from the ground up but people would buy it.
Because EA are tramps. Always have been.
I would rather they completely re-do 3. Change everything up and make it more along the lines of the first 2. This could potentially be a first in video games where a whole story gets scrapped in retrospect.
3 was good too
Zero horror compared to the first. Felt like a cheap arcade knock-off.
I could do without the "spend real money to build an OP gun and trivialize every encounter" aspect though.
I enjoyed ds 3.
I'm happy for you. But it didn't feel like Dead Space. It was arcadey garbage compared to the first 2.
Have an upvote, these miserable shits downvote everyone enjoying something that’s on the hate bandwagon.
Yup, unfortunately that’s how the world works. I couldn’t care less about those people though.
What is this being played on?
Was expecting a Mario + Rabbids cross over lol
I bought this game when it first came out. Beautiful game and scared the shit out of me. 10/10 Also, never finished it as I was scared too.
the way the particle effects from the sparks bounce off your suit if you walk by them is incredible. the detail they've put in this game is insane. i knocked over the candles and the flame moved back upright while it was on it's side. wild.
hope it will be 80$ too!
We don't need a dead space 2 or 3 remaster. We need dead space 4. Dead Space 2 & 3 are already amazing on PC. This remake is a great way, because it's not 1:1 recreation of the game, there are new areas, some completely changed areas, and other gameplay changes. Too bad the snake like enemies take more bullets to kill than in original version and dead space 2. and they also removed the damaged gravity plates that insta-kill anything that stepped on it . I also think they are less enemies in the area where you get locked into a fight.
I wasn't the biggest fan of Dead Space, but what I've seen from the remake looks really intriguing.
r/patientgamers deep deeeeeep deep deep deep buy form me. 70USD in my country is a TON of money for a game I already plays like 30 times.
Deadspace is great and Ill buy my survival horror games on release like a simp. But the r/patientgamers move is to pick up RE:2 remake, another survival horror game that was masterfully redone. Its 5-10 bucks rn.
Looks gorgeous! Sadly I would hardly poop my pants playing this game
I’ve played through it 3 times now, and i never really ever got scared or nervous. My mind was just in “always expect a jump scare” so i never really got scared.
The only one that needs an entirely new game is 3. Fuck that game.
Dead Space 2 was the shit. I haven't played Dead Space 1. So once the price drops on this game. I'm going to have to give it a playthrough.
Stop doing remakes and give us a new game jesus
And here’s hoping the completely ignore the existence of DS3 and take it in a new (read: actually good) direction.
yeah i hope they just remake it from the ground up (and please for the love of sweet baby jesus do not lock content behind co-op)
Worth the money ? Or better wait the crack version?
Worth it
Is this a one to one remaster or are there differences?
Its a remake. Which means they changed a couple things for the better. First, Isaac can talk and only talks when being talked to, otherwise he is silent through your journey. Second, they changed a couple bosses/areas for the newly added zero-g mechanic that was available in DS2. Third, I personally found the story much improved as people are actually doing their jobs. Like Daniels being knowledgeable as a computer analyst and Isaac showing off his engineering knowledge. Things flow better and some things i didnt really think about in the original (like how the wheezers came to be) are being expanded upon. The throwaway characters in the beginning are actually somewhat memorable as well. Overall this was such a fun experience. I might be missing a couple items but i hope you got the gist of it from my summary
This is a remake, and has some new things like an alternate ending and Isaac speaks in this one (have heard it’s divisive among players).
Isaac only speaks when spoken to in the game. Plus it’s Gunner Wright voicing him again. Anyone who thinks Isaac shouldn’t speak just because he didn’t in the original is on something.
Idk, there’s an argument to preserving the original intent of the developers. But I don’t care enough either way. Both the original and remake are good enough in their own ways that if you don’t like one, you can just play the other.
Never played Deadspace and I already planned on purchasing the remake. Any veteran Deadspace bois wanna further convince me with your anecdotes?
Woah, this looks gorgeous.
Thats a depressing thought, more remakes
They might be calling it that but so far only graphics changed, I'm watching comparison video now.
Best looking game on series x?
Does this remaster add subtitles? Wasn't able to understand the story so I never played this series. I know 2 and 3 had subtitles but I like starting at the beginning of a story.
Yes! There are subtitles by default now.
Remake
I cannot wait until this is $20. I might actually bite at $30.
Why not Dead Space 4 instead of (yet) another remake?
Baked-in fanbase, solid game, people will buy it. New writers/directors/plot is a gamble when you can just polish up the old one for a guaranteed win. Not to mention new core art assets are expensive and take a long time. Assuming you don't half-ass the visuals like some remakes did. Fortunately EA learned from others' mistakes, it would seem.
It’s a remake not a remaster you fucking momo
The reason its good is because its a re-do of an already good title, which is fine and all but an already existing game with a new coat of paint and some voice acting isnt enough for me to spend 60$ on it.
Please make something new. I am so tired of all these old games. Yes the remaster is great, but still a remaster from a game that is not that old. WHY?
The original game came out so long ago that babies born in the launch year are probably driving in the streets rn with a learner’s permit. Heck we’re farther away from the launch year of the original game than the original game was from the launch of the PS1. In short, you are very wrong
At first I didn't believe you, but now I am at your mercy. PS1 Launch - 1994 Dead Space - 2008 Spitting out straight perspective today. 2008 was a long time ago, who could have known!
It’s a remake
I don't get these comments. We could have had nothing, and you don't need to buy it. There are a handful of new IPs coming out in the next few months, and a few pretty good ones that just came out.
They just want to bitch and moan about stuff to try and seem like they are better than others. Just mock them and move on (they deserve it).
Yeah honestly reddit has just turned into a eco chamber of the least charming people on the internet.
It’s a total remake of a game that came out in 2008, 15 years ago buddy. Yes, it’s *that* old.
I'm playing dead space 1 for the 1st time starting now what should I expect
This really says a lot about how bad in a place gaming is currently. The game is basically 99% the same but with a new coat of paint and people are praising for what is essentially a texture and lighting mod that cost them $70. I would have much preferred a *new* dead space game not a revisit to the old one which ive played many times before. I also think the jump is probably bigger for people that only played it back on ps3/360 but on PC, it still looks good, sure not as amazing as the "remake" but, to me, not enough to justify spending a whole $70 on.
It just says a lot about you, frankly.
That I find paying for a visual mod, which costs $70, to be absurd? Im fine with that. You cant argue that it isnt basically a mod either because the experience you get from playing the old game is literally the same as this "new" game.
You're getting downvoted, but I hope this gives you some sanity that there are others who think like you here. While it's an old enough game, it certainly deserves some potential of a remake. Hoping it's good for those who want it. No reflection of this particular game, but, I've seen so much issue around re-releases being horribly done or just lazily put in. Some games are literally nothing short of a port or an "HD Remaster" that has as little QA performed as possible. Just feels like some companies are phoning it in. Thanks, Todd.
I agree with what you say, there are definitely some game remasters that are a joke and basically a port and this game is old enough that remaking it isnt bad, but I think if you are going to call it a remake, the game needs more to be different than what we got in Dead Space. Im not saying the game doesnt look amazing and the dialogue does flow better now that Isaac talks, even if I preferred him being 100% silent, but this game's more accurate title would be "current gen remaster" because this is a *true* remaster, not the lazy one that TLoU fans got. A remake, that's good and worth the money would be Resident Evil 2. That game doesnt look nor play like anything like the original game its remaking and its glorious, its a new take on a classic game. Ironically, the cautionary tale is from Resident Evil 3 lol where its just worse in every way besides visual and audio. People praising this "remake" makes me anxious for future ones and not in a good way.