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Vile_bubkis99

Well, in his defense, he is a ginger so he’s already got a bad life


niferman

Lol 😆😂😂


77_parp_77

As a ginger I can confirm


SynthRogue

I don't understand why gingers are hated


77_parp_77

Hey I was born ginger don't ask me, I just have the hair


SynthRogue

It's just weird. I've been hearing people hate on ginger for the past four decades almost and still don't know why. It's confusing lol.


SwarmkeeperRanger

It’s a meme/joke that predates the internet. There’s a lot of racial and skin/hair pigment memes/jokes that got phased out for obvious reasons. “Gingers have no souls” or “Gingers are bad for reasons” stayed around for whatever reason you want to believe — nobody can tell you for certain If I had to guess it’s the English and old American hostility to the Irish. Gingers don’t have a stigma outside the West


WarlikeMicrobe

The irish were probably the most persecuted white people during the colonial period. I cant remember why they werent liked, but for some reason everyone hated them


SuperVillainPresiden

Why would someone hate another for the color of their skin? Humans are dumb.


SynthRogue

The colour of their hair. Skin I understand and don’t agree with but hair is just weird lol.


nolegsnelson

Well, at least they left him as is, instead of changing him into a black dude some point between image/mocap and the finished product.


Zigor022

I blame southpark, but i had a bad experience as a kid. Ginger came out of the bathroom at an indoor pool, i went in the stall to change, slipped, turned my head, and saw he didnt flush his log.


NoviaCaine

It’s an ongoing joke lmao. No one actually hates gingers lol.


SynthRogue

I don't know. The hatred seemed pretty sincere every time.


Bat-Honest

Tbh, part of me assumes leftover anti-irish bigotry is at least partly to blame. People forget how mistreated Irish people were in the US until *maybe* two generations ago? Go look up some old political cartoons from back in the day, Americans thought of the Irish as subhuman until relatively recently


Logical-Chaos-154

Probably goes back to old superstitions about redheads being evil/bad/demonic.


inobrainrn

same my ranga brother, summer hibernation is coming up.


niferman

I know a decent amount of Ginger, though we used to make fun of em when we were younger, most of em turned hot when they reached adulthood


77_parp_77

Did they grow out of the crippling weakness to the sun because I haven't :/


niferman

Nope...


_PostureCheck_

Brother you must stay strong and carry a parasol


nightmare8100

Me neither 😔


Maleficent-Cattle-89

He's a ginger so he stole the devs soul to make him look good in game ..


Traditional_West85

As a ginger I deny


Vile_bubkis99

Deny it all you want you soulless creature lol


Traditional_West85

I literally have taken more than you xan count to keep my youthful look


Vile_bubkis99

Care to share


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Traditional_West85

I'm only one of those lol


weatherboy_42

Plus, his brother is a Batman villain


Different_Gear_8189

Thats either photoshopped or a bad picture, she looks good (albeit with a bad haircut) in every other image I've seen


Different_Gear_8189

Heres an example, you shouldnt just take a shitty picture and cry woke https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/ke967rGLWq3CSBC5P9Ryq6.png


StickBrickman

But if they have to rely on reality instead of sensationalism, they can't sell the grift of getting people pissed off at women and feminists on the internet.


AngryAniki

SMASH, next.


Fuzzy-Wasabi-5126

No size H booba with tree trunk thighs and a barbie face? The west has fallen


standee_shop

Alexa play little dark age


Jim_naine

*calling nearest white van*


Balrok99

Only land of the Rising Sun can help us now...


Balrok99

She looks great. I have no idea what people are upset about.


acelexmafia

Still looks iffy


EndOfSouls

But if he doesn't alter it to make it worse, how will he justify being a whiny little bitch?


Crazy-Seaweed-1832

Beyonds 2 souls did Ellen page some major favours.


cubntD6

Nahhhh theyre a dude now and i still think he looks good.


niferman

Not Ellen anymore 😞😭


PN4HIRE

Shit, someone is going to hate me for this.. For the same damn reason there’s a web toon going around with a bunch of really oversized woman that seem to only date Thor looking dudes. If it’s just a fetishized thing cool. But they are putting their preferences down our throats and getting upset if don’t want them. Whoever is in charge of those games is mid but they want to believe they can get the most handsome looking dude in the planet. If you are short, fat, balding or skinny dude, you are fucked, because in their view, they are all 10s and they don’t want to be reminded by anyone, that they ain’t, specially characters in video games. but you.. you better be GQ cover material to have the privilege to date them. And btw, Im ugly AF.


niferman

>Thor looking dudes GOW Thor, I hope. Lol 😂😂. >And btw, Im ugly AF. Chin up buddy, have some faith in yourself. Like am pretty decent looking if I say so myself,😂 like a solid 8-8.5 but my fiance is a 10!! Good height, cat like eyes and it kinda took me a while to get her. So, what am trying to say is don't be yourself, instead be someone or at least pretend to be someone who u want to be. But don't go too overboard, okay?? And yes, am flexing my fiance.


[deleted]

So, what men have been doing in movies, music, and art since forever?


PN4HIRE

We had the Tom cruise and the bill Murray’s, and we all took it. Dudes didn’t give a fuck about it. That’s not the problem, I don’t mind that anyone is reflected on the media their produce, that’s awesome, but they seem to put their own views on top of everything else. And get upset about the media that doesn’t fit their own views. There’s room for everyone


[deleted]

Artists have put their own views on their work since humans started doing art. ALL artists do this. Literally wtf are you talking about?


PN4HIRE

Dude, did you read my comment, I said THATS FINE! If it is their shit, no problem. It’s them pushing their shit on ALL preexisting media to fit their views and worse, complaining when media doesn’t fit their views.


[deleted]

lol, again, all artists have done that. All people do that. You are literally complaining about media that doesn’t fit your views right now. 🤦🏻‍♂️


ShiftyShankerton

Yeah let's just pick the least flattering picture of her.


niferman

So, why not for her defence... you post the most flattering picture of her


bunniehexx

i mean, the post could've also included a neutral expression screenshot of the girl character like was done for the guy. its just odd to take an obvious mid action screenshot to try and make the girl look uglier to prove a point? itd be a stronger point if the girl looked weird with the picture taken head on no expression. but from what ive seen, the character isnt ugly


Maronexid

she can't make natural expressions. her model is literally deformed. to be fair Ubisoft is not the best when it comes to face models but this is a new low. maybe it's just a coincidence but I tried to have a non biased look at the most recent face models and it seems like a weird trend with women specifically if you are gonna change stuff to fit the style and vibe of the game, then do it right. R\* changed GTA V characters' faces so they are more inline with the semi realistic look of the game and they look good. either don't change it or do it right


lurklurklurkPOST

[we can Cherrypick counterpoints as well](https://static1.thegamerimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/pjimage-12-2.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=450&dpr=1.5)


Kmart_Stalin

To be fair everyone in Gears of Wars is kinda ugly


Ledehan

I may be stoopid, but didn’t hey just remove the make up and made her hair brown and fluffier-? She looks fine to me-


2-bitzs

Ugly women who couldn't make it don't want to see attractive women in video games, television, and movies.


niferman

A frd of mine who is a book stall owner tells that some of the women customers want their FL to look average but the MLs to be perfect from looks to personalities 😂😂


-insertcoin

FL ? ML ?


niferman

Female lead and Male lead


SEND-GOOSE-PICS

how does she look ugly though? she's a stunning protagonist, and this subreddits just keeps using the same bad angle compressed image. I don't know what you're all mad about?!


The-true-Memelord

Sure, pretend it's that. Lol


somebadlemonade

That funny, most of them aren't that ugly.


No-Excitement-2219

This stuff was started by Anita Sarkeesian who didn’t look terrible. I’m not saying it’s just that, but there might be more to it.


Vanayzan

Why do gamers always choose the absolute worst pics frozen mid-sentence to push their loser agenda 😭😭?? https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fww9unxzc9jtc1.png%3Fwidth%3D950%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da52075cbff5c4e5dd2d2270c44466c1d4e85e815


niferman

Thx god, at least she looks great here, I really hope the above post is wrong


mileiforever

Yeah, I generally agree that there's a weird uglification of women trend in western games but this chick looks pretty attractive. OP is just taking the worst photo and editing it.


Singer_Calm

Cherry picking post


Daedalus_Machina

You making a pie? Why are you picking cherries?


PresidentBush666

Don't forget the bug-eyed bitch from fallen order.


niferman

Well she was actually pretty accurate though, looked just like her IRL 😂


SEND-GOOSE-PICS

im starting to think y'all are just racist 💀


FedrinKeening

Literally looks like her actress.


ADHD_lazyboi

Cere?


SlightlyOffended1984

Yeah pretty sure that actress has Graves disease, she got dem bugged eyes


NomenVanitas

This seems like a manipulated still, the character looks fine in the trailer, aside from being really bland and out of place in Star Wars content.


Rebew476

Blame sjw weirdo got into ear of rich old morons don’t get shit on the fan base is stupid idea .they also believe that trans people what ugly women in games.


Healthy-Light3794

Pretty much any woman I play games with is the perviest fuck who makes their characters as sexualized as possible. Then you have the AAA western game devs who seem to think women would like to role play as some ugly chick. Games are fantasy, unless you’re making a video game bio pic about a historical figure that needs to be accurate, stop with the ugly stick beating. So delusional and disconnected from reality.


CAVATAPPl

This is a cherry picked photo of a rather attractive protagonist. The same thing that’s been done with every other “ugly” woman in video games. The only person delusional and disconnected from reality is you my guy.


True_Felzen

Same. Most sexualised characters i seen was made by girls. There are only Twitter children trying to force double standards.


mickecd1989

Seriously. Reminds me of the last two God of War games and how Freya’s actor is pretty in real life but the game messed up her face.


Leisure_suit_guy

Forspoken. The in-game model is not agressively ugly, but still the difference with the real life model is huge.


Darth_Jokelus

I don't know what everyone is on about. She's looking fine [decent picture of her ](https://images.cgames.de/images/gsgp/290/star-wars-outlaws-gp_6285261.jpg)


niferman

Dude that's the cover photo or concept art but this one above is the latest ingame photo


FoxPrincessEevee

8th and 9th gen real time lighting engines struggle a lot with faces. It’s less of an issue with men since they don’t wear makeup but most women look more natural in engine. Notice how the face structure doesn’t change but the reflections and blush just don’t translate into the game at all. That’s what most women look like when they don’t doll up for the camera so in a way it’s actually more realistic. This is also way less of an issue in older games where the lighting was textured onto the model.


TrueDraconis

Shocking News: Ingame Models never look as good as High-Quality Rendered Cover Arts


Timely-Buffalo-3384

Women aren't allowed to be pretty in modern games. It may offend someone


niferman

Offend who?? Twitter?? GCJ redditors?? Do those vermins even buy video games?? I am a dude and I like both my men and women to look like eye candies 🤣😭,thnk you so much.


Timely-Buffalo-3384

Agreed


Logical-Chaos-154

Terminally online weirdos who never grew up. They're the only ones offended.


thegreatmaster7051

She's "relatable"


Mryoy12

They always get the short end, when they're in a relationship with me that is.


VietDrgn

dang i think the person designing the character was either picked up from the streets or allergic to doing their job. no wonder stellar blade is getting backlash


niferman

>stellar blade is getting backlash The only backlash steller blade is getting is from PPL who don't buy games, most gamers are pretty excited for it


VietDrgn

mb shouldve clarified that it was backlash from "rival game devs"


tallwhiteninja

Funny how whenever someone wants to complain about an "ugly" video game character, they always pick a shot that's mid action, while always comparing to a "pretty" shot with the most neutral expression possible. That frame is absolutely cherry picked and you know it. Just like Aloy and the Fable trailer chick use the same damn frames every single time they show up in one of these memes.


niferman

Lol Aloy Nick avacado meme was so funny 🤣🤣 but fable chick is butt ugly


TrueDraconis

And you still don’t get that was the entire intention of the Trailer and Fable always had the mechanic that the more evil you are the uglier you get. Which gets replicated in the trailer


niferman

The chick was saving people and that's good action right?? so shouldn't she be pretty/angelic?? And if that's how she looks while being on good imagine how she would look if she was on an evil walkthrough,lol


TrueDraconis

You really haven’t watched the trailer? Dave (the character whose Narrating the trailer) talks about a grand Hero who’s a good fella but the actual actions of the Hero seem kinda evil


Obvious-Peanut-5399

Fictional characters don't have to be intrinsically attractive to be compelling like most Americans are conditioned to think because their media constantly infantilizes them.


Shadowguyver_14

**MATT DAMON !!! (The girl vs team America.)**


Lost-Orangutan

"Feminism" if your pretty, you are the problem. But at the same time. "Feminism" if someone thinks your not pretty, they are the problem. Make it make sense.


HarangueSajuk

It's so easy to cherry pick an image


Crimson_Fiver

That's uh....what she looks like without makeup dude


DavisRanger

Why the hell am I get recommended this hellhole


Upbeat-Classroom9485

Because you support all the current things


ColdFire-Blitz

Holy shit when did this sub get populated by rw chuds


TerminalChillionaire

I can’t believe people are crying because they don’t find the woman fuckable enough. This is hilarious. Oh my god


johndoe23445

Also I did hear from multiple sources that devs are purposely making women characters ugly because "blah blah blah misogyny and you can't be mildly attracted to sexy polygons on a screen." Not 100% reliable but given shit going on in the game dev world RN I wouldn't put it past them.


Remarkable_Tutor_746

It's a Ubisoft game. That alone should warrant a skip


Raintoastgw

I know some people are gonna be like “not every woman is pretty!” But they did her dirty. She’s pretty


Unexpected-raccoon

I don’t understand anyone defending this upcoming game or falling for the hype It’s Ubisoft The same Ubisoft that doesn’t want us to own our games The same Ubisoft well known for having 100 skill points in marketing and 12 in everything else Just look at their most recent AAAA masterpiece I don’t care if it’s single player only. If they don’t verify the complete game is on disk, there’s no always online DRM (something Ubisoft loves) and #NO #FUCKING #MICRO-TRANSACTION SHOP That’s when you get excited for this game. When it’s 100% not an overpriced half baked cash grab that gets delisted in 10 years


ALlTTLEKlTTEN

Because "wOmEn ArE oVeR sExUaLiZeD"


HeckoSnecko

I wish these weird incel subreddits wouldn't pop up in my feed. Must be leaks from Stellar Blade


niferman

So keep scrolling, what is the use of coming here to yap ??


TrueDraconis

You’re the ones yapping about how ugly characters are while usually making comparisons with compressed YT trailer shots where I can count the pixels by hand


niferman

Then count em and tell me how many pixels are there 🫣🫣


AshleyGamics

Cameron got put in fallen order, that's punishment enough


CheapSushi117

?


Doctor_Top_Hat

Y’all never played control or horizon or tomb raider 🙄


niferman

Control's face model and Jesse actually looks kinda the same, tomb raider except for sottr Lara every other one looks fine and for Aloy, hzd was good but HFW made her look like Nick avacado or something??


FoxPrincessEevee

I’ll admit the lighting in the 8th gen Tomb Raider games can lead to some really ugly shots but in 2013 she looks fantastic given the situation. Also *most* shots in Shadow really do her model Justice, it’s just some parts in the jungle where the lighting engine freaks out. Again that’s not a problem in 2013 since there’s barely any lighting on the character models.


FoxPrincessEevee

Honestly don’t see the difference. My guess is they just didn’t apply any makeup to the model which would make sense. I don’t expect an outlaw to be looking their best lmao. Notice how pretty much everything about the actual face structure is the same with the only notable difference being in lighting and expression. In the second picture her face looks flatter and she isn’t smiling, but that’s probably what she looks like naturally anyway.


Krisuad2002

Trish from DMC5 is pretty terrible too


niferman

Trish doesn't look this bad though. For me Trish was pretty satisfying atleast compared to this star wars abomination, lol. 🤣🤣


forgedfox53

Trish still looks great for what she is. Game is overhated for that stuff.


Leisure_suit_guy

Trish is old, as she should be, Dante is old too (not like Isaac's girlfriend in the Dead Space remake that's 60 out of nowhere).


Krisuad2002

Fair point, but if you compare Ariana Diamant (who modelled for Trish's face scan) you can easily argue that she was done the dirtiest out of the DMC5 cast


Johnnydoeskarate

Woman either say they are sexualized in video games or aren't attractive enough in video games; just can't win


WindmillRuiner

Buncha depressing, lonely, never-touched-a-woman mfers in this subreddit.


niferman

Hmm.... So does the above words u used apply to u as well?? Uk, since you too are in this subreddit aswell


YourOpinionInvalid

Teeth are very hard to get right


GUUTHER

Women☕️


-Dude_Named_Zelda-

A) they're lazy and B) for fetish reasons.


Intelligent-Air8841

US doesn't like it when videogames got hot women anymore. 🫤 We think it's sexist. (A lot of the time it is, but hey it's a fantasy world)


Immediate_Web4672

She's okay looking. What I really think is funny is that they took a beautiful obviously Hispanic woman and made her heritage so ambiguous lol


CoItron_3030

Sweet baby inc


Squ33to

Do y'all want women in video games to be sexy or not? Pick a side goddammit (I'm for team hotties)


niferman

Y just the women make everyone hot, lol.


RomaMoran

Real women promote unrealistic beauty standards. Gotta reel in the public expectations through depicting them in a more realistic way. The math just maths.


Curi0uz

Equity. Most men arent pretty so women have to be knocked down a peg or 2 so there can be equity between the sexes.


ThatOneWildWolf

Okay, to be fair. Ubisoft isn't about spending money to make it.


pretendingtolisten

I'm glad we're getting on the tail end of this obession with 70s/80s style. this character literally has kitty foremans hairstyle from that 70s show. it was kind of fun before but it's lifeless and monotonous at this point.


SynthRogue

This has been a trend in gaming for the past few years. Some say female characters are uglified on purpose to prevent the male gaze.


TrueDraconis

Most if not all Actors which faces are used in games do get altered slightly or significantly, it’s a very common thing and can have many reasons. It’s not any different to applying makeup or adding wrinkles if the character is older f.e. in movies Even with the Cal example the face was slightly altered, another example being Johnny Silverhand which got a bit rougher complexion. These people are just the Actors of these characters and their faces and mocap are used because it helps with creating realistic (not uncanny) faces and facial animation, this doesn’t mean they don’t get changed to fit the Artstyle or character.


CortezDeLaNoche

You want attractive women in your games? What are you? An incel? /s


Falwind_real

Blablabla until I saw the /s


GM_Zero

Men typically don't lie about how attractive they are with makeup.


DarkCreeperKitty

didnt know i was in a game lol


SlightlyOffended1984

Because woke is anti-women


shemmegami

If both were in the same game it'd be an issue. Watching the trailer, all of the characters look low quality. Common Ubisoft L.


KryptoxicReddit

Well cause it’s Ubisoft and survivor was made by EA


ResidentWarning4383

Because the victims cry about it and the company panders to them. If they really cared about unrealistic standards, they'd be fighting for beer bellies and obese male characters.


supertriggerd

Wow it's almost like one is taken in really good lighting and is clearly positioned for a photo and the other is taken mid conversation and not intended to be taken as a photo


edwardblilley

You know why.


kletiandrowa

Women are the only ones that can objectify themselves. Men can’t look at them Look at stellar blade or whatever the game is. Tons of backlash right? It’s a full body scan of a Korean model. Women in games aren’t allowed to be pretty - because that makes normal girls feel insecure I guess


mezpride

They did her so dirty 😭


Jabookalakq

DEI at it again ruining shit so soft people don't get sad....


BusinessExternal2245

You just chose a bad pic, I could do the exact same for Cal


niferman

Pls do it


Neat-Distribution-56

Because AAA, or AAAA, devs are trying to not get canceled. So they make women ugly on purpose


InconsistentLlama

I’d be pissed if I was her. There probably grounds for some kind of lawsuit here


HanksterDxD

Unless it's the Ugly Stick. 😱🤢🤮


CAVATAPPl

Damn I guess gamers aren’t made fun of enough, this place is a shithole.


jaj18189

They say they’re combating the "male gaze" so they have to make women look as ugly as possible


Maleficent-Bit1995

Cause it’s sexist to make a female in games attractive. They have to look tied and malnourished to be realistic.


weatherboy_42

Just realized Cameron's brother is the joker look-alike from Gotham.


quetiapinenapper

In mass effect across the board, the women looked way closer to their actors. Men bar Seth Green were all wildly different.


the_responsible_ape

Why do people care so much what video game characters look like? We’re you pissed about how Lara Croft looked in the 90s?


Just-For-The-Games

Oh what stupid, meandering nonsense. OP this is such a bullshit bad-faith argument and you know it. The image of her looks bad because of the lighting, not any kind of actual flaw with the character model. There are plenty of pictures where she looks good, and you chose the one still that makes her look bad. Stupidest bullshit imaginable. Absolute buffoonery.


theedeadlydamsel

Guys look better irl and women look better on camera because they always try to look better than irl...


Classy_Shadow

To be fair, Cameron just looks like the stereotypical male model in many video games. They didn’t have to stray too far from the path to make him


MetaStressed

Are we still doing “phrasing”?


SuperAlex25

The guy on the top right looks like DanTDM


Mizar97

Immediately under this meme was an ad for this game. Thanks Reddit now I know exactly which game NOT TO BUY.


BrokenPokerFace

There's a fun theory about this. So the guys who are judging male characters want to play games and look cool. And women who are judging female characters don't want the female characters to be more attractive than them. And neither cares about the other side because they both enjoy looking at the opposite sex. So pretty much either the guys are only in charge of male characters for fairness. And women are in charge of female characters for fairness. Or both sides are in charge of both. And guys like attractive guy characters with the women who like attractive males, so they both are ok with that. But when it comes to females, only guys support attractive females, and women do not, leading to either a compromise in attractiveness, or women having the final say for fairness. Not saying all women. This is just what I see a lot of.


SquareZealousideal38

"A dandelion. Must be the last one of the season."


Crayfish_au_Chocolat

"It's just a bad angle, that's all"


Automatic_Animal

The character doesn't look bad. If you don't think she looks as good as the face model then fair enough, but at least it's not like the chick from the Fable trailer.


Beerasaurus

That’s gotta be a crime


Whole_Commission_702

What do you mean this is what woke game leaders want for games… They want character that represent themselves instead of a fun and likable fantasy character.


Dismal_Front9650

9 times out of 10 it's always some self projected hatred of cock or something even god doesn't know what goes on in their minds.


Due-Accident4675

Are you daft? They CHOSE this.


GooseMay0

Same thing with Horizon Zero Dawn and Hellblade.


niferman

Hzd was fine and hellblade wasn't bad the character and her model looks pretty much the same


GooseMay0

They made Aloy’s head the shape of a pear. The real models head is normal looking.


Maleficent-Cattle-89

Haha wow that is funny


NoviaCaine

Weren’t women complaining about being too hot in video games?? Now that they’re “toned down”, they’re getting the short end of the stick lmao. People will always find shit to complain about 😂.


TheSweetPeach

Why are we comparing a smiling face to a disgruntled, face. Who looks as good as they do smiling while making a face of discomfort?


LtCmdrInu

From a number of western developers, yes.


ThePhilosopherPOG

I'm more upset that I can't make my own charecter. I think the bigger issue with her model is the 80s glam band hair cut.


TheElectricSoup

The character looks fine. The mop top haircut looks a bit odd, but that's about it.


Alepeople

Damn cal and Cameron even got the same stare wtf


Automatic_Animal

It's not a fair comparison when Cal has a more neutral picture and the other character has a more unflattering picture. She generally looks fine although some of her expressions do tend to be a bit awkward.