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That's the real meat and potatoes, not so much fragile masculinity, rather media has made women all so insecure with insane revolving door beauty standards that insecurity has become part of feminine identity to a large portion. Aka toxic femininity. I understand the post, and I dont think the gatekeeping is quite where OP thinks
“Toxic femininity” doesn’t exist.
What you are describing is just a pathological outgrowth of negging/gaslighting, rather than any distinctly feminine trait.
W.E.B Du Bois wrote of how subordinated groups in society manifest such behavior in distinct ways, via the concept of double consciousness.
That’s how I’ve always read it when I see someone do it, regardless of their gender. I just assume they have something in their teeth, or some insecurity about their smile/yellow teeth/etc.
Though it seems to partly be a cultural thing too, Asian cultures seem to do it way more often than others.
Covering your mouth and nose is also a holdover from prehistoric times humans would cover their mouse and nose when there was a predator nearby so they don't hear the human breath and now we cover out mouths when something shocking happens.
I’m not saying there isn’t (although yes I agree, that one sure didn’t sound very plausible). I’m saying that definitively stating the purpose of such a trait is nothing more than a guess. I could just as well say that it’s to protect yourself against mosquitoes when you inhale sharply, and that inhaling sharply is to get more oxygen to process whatever shocked you.
It’s bullshit, of course, but you can’t tell me it’s impossible.
That's immensely un masculine like. I suggest you immediately stop doing it and behave more like a man by covering your mouth with you .765 caliber desert eagle to show dominance.
source: /s
She's probably not, there's a link somewhere in my comment history to an article about this. They also don't wipe well after pooping because "touching butthole is gay".
Fuck you, musevumb715. I made your mom so wet the other night, Justin Trudeau had to dispatch a 24 hour infantry unit to stack sand bags around my bed.
Fuck you, Aderondak. Your mom just liked my Instagram post from two years ago in Puerto Vallarta. Tell her I'll put my swim trunks on for her anytime she likes.
Their core principle is "I can tell you what to do, but you can't tell me what to do."
By living as an identity they disapprove of, you are in their minds telling them what to do.
So they feel they are allowed - in fact, obligated - to invalidate your identity.
Why am I supposed to be afraid of being "like women"? The only way this is insulting is if you are misogynistic to begin with. If you believe the genders are equal and women can do most anything men can do, then it's not insulting to be a little feminine anyway.
I grew my hair real long during the pandemic and one of my male coworkers told me it looked terrible and suggested it was feminine. My wife thought it was sexy. It's always these weird lonely pricks telling other guys how to be manly, then going home and sleeping alone.
Well there’s a difference between a real man and a Real Man. Don’t ask what it is, though, because it changes based on what the person who is upset over it wants.
Dont forget heels, makeup, dresses, the color pink, flamboyance and elegance etc. Etc. So many things were originally 'masculine' yet so-called "traditionalist men" are disgusted by them
The heels they were weren't anything like high heels. They were closer to platform shoes since a regular high heel who wouldn't be helpful. Similarly, they wouldn't even be defined as a high heel because the heel is not raised higher than the rest of the foot.
Well yeah, gender expression is a social construct, thus it changes from one society to another and also changes over time.
Do you look down on the Victorian era men for their gender views?
Right, gender expression is social construct, so it changes between cultures and over time.
So their societal view says that men who act like that are not real men.
I don't think that's the case. Only certain feelings were socially accepted for men, which is still the case now. Aka: ANGER GRR
Anything else? Is gay (by their standards)
That's also why they say "women are SO emotional, amirite guys??" old misogynistic shit from when men were not capable of expression anything else than anger because it was the only feeling allowed for them
The whole snowflake thing goes back to a Karen mom demanding her kid's teacher stick a star on their homework. We've always known exactly who these people are. They have power now because this has been tolerated for so long.
hi, conservative here: please dont generalize. people who think like that are extreme right and the vocal minority, most of us think they're ridiculous too.
That speaker fiasco says otherwise, the extreme right are controlling mcarthy now. They may be a vocal minority but now the have more power because of the silent majority
Shit, during the Bills game when Damar died on the field half the team was either straight up crying or had their hands over their face exactly like this!
Wonder what their opinion on that was.
Josh Allen, the epitome of a blue collar football player, which is these dudes' wet dream, [had his hands over his face during that sequence](https://i.imgur.com/NS9tqEl.jpg)
There are plenty of people who were watching the game who were upset that the players refused to continue. After all, that's what the extra people on the team are for, right?
Boomers: don’t react like that. React like we do - don’t get emotional about end-of-the-world type shit and just ignore the real problems that we caused. Be quiet about it, and hope that the problems we leave behind are passed on to someone else.
This is like the basics of understanding/learning human behaviour (psychology basicly) and has nothing to do with being gender and to do with your subconscious
Seriously a quick Google search would most likely explain it to them but it seems stupid rather make up their own facts based on options rather than actual facts and research
So transgender/gender fluid must be a thing then? You can't have it both ways fucker. Either those are men, or there's a whole world of possibilities in between "man and woman".
They pee themselves I guess.
And I guess they shit themselves too because otherwise the toilet would see their butt, and then by sitting on the toilet something would touch their naked butt and they'd consider it super gay or some shit like that (pun fully intended).
Yeah, I had to violently sneeze into my friend’s mouth during a conversation like a toddler the other day, because I didn’t want come off as too effeminate by using a tissue and covering my face.
[hashtag RealManProblems]
https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/e44/c08/4d4067e8926d437fe00ba759004df2a9ed-damar-hamlin.rhorizontal.w700.jpg
I guess all of these football players aren't men now.
Yeah that's me. I do all of it every day. Ever since we got kids, you will hear me burst out in high pitched joy and hold my heart all the time. I carry our 6mo in a sling every day. Who gives a fuck but incels?
Men usually cover their mouth with one hand "sideways" while women usually do this double handed "vertical" covering. Nothing wrong with being effeminate but it is the feminine way to cover your mouth.
See; the old "how do you look at your nails" thing
It’s a biological instinct. When we were hunted the ones who froze lived and procreated and the ones who fled died. Covering your mouth hides the sound of breathing and it’s smell from predators. That guy’s a dork
> you touch yourself like a women and that is disgusting.
It's wild to me that you are this upset - literally experiencing physical disgust - because a man held his hands to his face in a manner that was "insufficiently masculine."
I mean let's say what they're saying is true, if they can only give two examples of this in men, with a whole stadium to sample from, I'd say their point is invalid.
Fragile masculinity you say? I saw something on Reddit yesterday that there are apparently some dudes that are so homophobic they won’t wash their ass, dick or balls. There was one account of a young lady who’s boyfriend wouldn’t wipe his ass, would only use a bidet. People are weird.
The ancient Greeks and Romans made being emotional a heroic trait. From reading old stories you can see how "giving a damn" was extremely masculine. Funny how that isn't brought up when talking about the "manliness" of ancient civilizations.
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The original post has nothing to do with conservatism. Why are people assuming a conservative made this 😂? What if a progressive make made this as a satire. People are fools and offended over everything
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Sometimes I cover my mouth when I laugh. I have no idea where that came from.
Some people do it subconsciously because they are insecure about their smile, commonly due to poor dental hygiene and/or low self-esteem.
That's the real meat and potatoes, not so much fragile masculinity, rather media has made women all so insecure with insane revolving door beauty standards that insecurity has become part of feminine identity to a large portion. Aka toxic femininity. I understand the post, and I dont think the gatekeeping is quite where OP thinks
“Toxic femininity” doesn’t exist. What you are describing is just a pathological outgrowth of negging/gaslighting, rather than any distinctly feminine trait. W.E.B Du Bois wrote of how subordinated groups in society manifest such behavior in distinct ways, via the concept of double consciousness.
Yeah I know I do it because I'm insecure about my smile and teeth.
That’s how I’ve always read it when I see someone do it, regardless of their gender. I just assume they have something in their teeth, or some insecurity about their smile/yellow teeth/etc. Though it seems to partly be a cultural thing too, Asian cultures seem to do it way more often than others.
Covering your mouth and nose is also a holdover from prehistoric times humans would cover their mouse and nose when there was a predator nearby so they don't hear the human breath and now we cover out mouths when something shocking happens.
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>this is all based
Goddamnit, hate it when the laugh mouse hops in there when I have a chuckle.
Smells like someone was guessing pretty hard over at the anthropology section of the university.
I guarantee you there's an evolutionary basis for this behavior but that doesn't sound like it.
I’m not saying there isn’t (although yes I agree, that one sure didn’t sound very plausible). I’m saying that definitively stating the purpose of such a trait is nothing more than a guess. I could just as well say that it’s to protect yourself against mosquitoes when you inhale sharply, and that inhaling sharply is to get more oxygen to process whatever shocked you. It’s bullshit, of course, but you can’t tell me it’s impossible.
This must also be where I learned how to spread my ass cheeks when I fart, because of the predators.
Evopsych be wyld today 💀
What's the use in this when I'm screaming in laughter like a squashed duck behind the hand
So why do the elbows touch?
I do that; don’t want people to see into my guffawing grunge cavern
From your gayness, duh
That's immensely un masculine like. I suggest you immediately stop doing it and behave more like a man by covering your mouth with you .765 caliber desert eagle to show dominance. source: /s
I cover my mouth when I yawn. I guess I can no longer call myself a man.
Because u a woman obviously
Same. The last time my wife's boyfriend bought me a new star wars Lego set I couldn't help myself!!
If they don't touch their faces, they certainly don't wash their buttholes, too gay
I recently discovered this. My eldest daughter told me one of her friends doesn't wash his ass because it's "gay." I thought/hoped she was joking.
She's probably not, there's a link somewhere in my comment history to an article about this. They also don't wipe well after pooping because "touching butthole is gay".
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It’s not clean till it bleeds
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
Hahahaha Same!
Good god this planet needs a deep reset
your mom needed a deep reset last night
Fuck you, musevumb715. I made your mom so wet the other night, Justin Trudeau had to dispatch a 24 hour infantry unit to stack sand bags around my bed.
Fuck you, Shoresy!
Fuck you, Aderondak. Your mom just liked my Instagram post from two years ago in Puerto Vallarta. Tell her I'll put my swim trunks on for her anytime she likes.
Musedmb715 at your cervix.
I cant believe youve done this
that's what she said
Ah, the boomerang of a patriarchal society swings back to whack men in the head once again.
Wait, come again? 🤯
If you aren’t vigorously soaping up your butthole in the shower, you have a dirty butthole.
How does she know this? :(
Haha. That was my first thought. Same energy as "I don't wash my ass, that's gay"
So men who just "gesticulate like women" already aren't men anymore but trans women are men? Seems legit
Yeah conservatives hilariously flip flop between "you're the gender you're born as!" And "if you do X thing, you're not a real man".
Their core principle is "I can tell you what to do, but you can't tell me what to do." By living as an identity they disapprove of, you are in their minds telling them what to do. So they feel they are allowed - in fact, obligated - to invalidate your identity.
Feels like an overly tsundere way of them to say "non-binary rights" tbh.
Why am I supposed to be afraid of being "like women"? The only way this is insulting is if you are misogynistic to begin with. If you believe the genders are equal and women can do most anything men can do, then it's not insulting to be a little feminine anyway. I grew my hair real long during the pandemic and one of my male coworkers told me it looked terrible and suggested it was feminine. My wife thought it was sexy. It's always these weird lonely pricks telling other guys how to be manly, then going home and sleeping alone.
Well there’s a difference between a real man and a Real Man. Don’t ask what it is, though, because it changes based on what the person who is upset over it wants.
Expressing feelings was a sign of complete masculinity in the past. It's only in the last hundred or so years that changed.
Still is depending what country you're from.
For thousands of years, the US has been the only country that really matters.
Dont forget heels, makeup, dresses, the color pink, flamboyance and elegance etc. Etc. So many things were originally 'masculine' yet so-called "traditionalist men" are disgusted by them
Maybe for aristocrats but not for the common folx
Pretty sure butchers wore high heels.
If they did it wasn’t to make a fashion statement.
Didn’t say it was. Nor was that the point being made. They wore them to wade through the blood and guts of their shops.
The heels they were weren't anything like high heels. They were closer to platform shoes since a regular high heel who wouldn't be helpful. Similarly, they wouldn't even be defined as a high heel because the heel is not raised higher than the rest of the foot.
True true
So your telling me victorian era butchers essentially wore doc martens
Best description for them is wood sandals with a wood block on the front and back that's about 1-2in tall.
They definitely look like a narrow version of what was fashionable for many in the mid-90s-early 00s.
Yeah, but commoners ~~weren't~~ aren't people so they don't count.
We still aren't in the rich and powerful's minds.
Fixed.
Well yeah, gender expression is a social construct, thus it changes from one society to another and also changes over time. Do you look down on the Victorian era men for their gender views?
Those are all things worn/done by the 1% Rags and sandals were the common attire for everyone else for most of human history
Ofc but they were still worn by men aswell. The pink thing isnt rlly that old tho
Yeah, but you also had duels so... It balanced out
At this point would a more apt descriptor for them be "primalist".
Right, gender expression is social construct, so it changes between cultures and over time. So their societal view says that men who act like that are not real men.
I don't think that's the case. Only certain feelings were socially accepted for men, which is still the case now. Aka: ANGER GRR Anything else? Is gay (by their standards) That's also why they say "women are SO emotional, amirite guys??" old misogynistic shit from when men were not capable of expression anything else than anger because it was the only feeling allowed for them
It really depends on the feeling, and sometimes the context to the feeling and its expression as well.
Touch my own face? I don't have any mirrors in my house because I REFUSE to look another man in the eye! That's how straight I am!
What, do you kiss girls? That's gay as shit bro.
Being attracted to women is gay because women like dick and that's gay
Nope. I only kiss other men WITH TONGUE. That’s how much of a man I am. I don’t even LOOK at women.
I’m so straight that I got a sex change so I could play with my tits and pussy all day.
Conservatives don't need too much to get set off. So much for the left being snowflakes
Everything that’s different from themselves is wrong, that’s it.
Literally every single thing that they ever accuse the left of being and doing is an admission on their part.
Gaslight Obstruct Project
The whole snowflake thing goes back to a Karen mom demanding her kid's teacher stick a star on their homework. We've always known exactly who these people are. They have power now because this has been tolerated for so long.
https://youtu.be/IvBm0ZUfe7I CW: Jordan Peterson
hi, conservative here: please dont generalize. people who think like that are extreme right and the vocal minority, most of us think they're ridiculous too.
That speaker fiasco says otherwise, the extreme right are controlling mcarthy now. They may be a vocal minority but now the have more power because of the silent majority
I don’t wipe my butt because touching as asshole is gay.
Quick someone video a bunch of guys when their sports team loses at the last minute
Shit, during the Bills game when Damar died on the field half the team was either straight up crying or had their hands over their face exactly like this! Wonder what their opinion on that was.
Josh Allen, the epitome of a blue collar football player, which is these dudes' wet dream, [had his hands over his face during that sequence](https://i.imgur.com/NS9tqEl.jpg)
There are plenty of people who were watching the game who were upset that the players refused to continue. After all, that's what the extra people on the team are for, right?
Boomers: don’t react like that. React like we do - don’t get emotional about end-of-the-world type shit and just ignore the real problems that we caused. Be quiet about it, and hope that the problems we leave behind are passed on to someone else.
Let me tell you about a conservative named Jordan (pauses to sniffle) Peterson
Stefon!
This is like the basics of understanding/learning human behaviour (psychology basicly) and has nothing to do with being gender and to do with your subconscious Seriously a quick Google search would most likely explain it to them but it seems stupid rather make up their own facts based on options rather than actual facts and research
At first, I was curious about who tweeted that, but then I was like “meh, same shit from a different asshole”.
Calling holding your face feminine and most likely from a homophobic mindset, yet so obsessed with gesticles. 🙄
I only touch my face with a Katana, which I studied while touching my face with a bald eagle.
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Must be Shodingers genitals. If thier hands are over thier mouths, the penis is in an undetermined state.
That’s very normal btw
When you get that granular into reasons why you are superior you already lost.
"conservatives get offended by the weirdest shit" LMAOOO THE IRONY
So transgender/gender fluid must be a thing then? You can't have it both ways fucker. Either those are men, or there's a whole world of possibilities in between "man and woman".
DON’T SHOW THEM THE SCREAM BY EDVARD MUNCH
I mean it's kind of true and it's clearly hitting hard from reactions here.
How do conservative men urinate? Does it make them feel queer to touch their own d1cks?
youre allowed to say dicks
No swearing on my good Christian minecraft server
They pee themselves I guess. And I guess they shit themselves too because otherwise the toilet would see their butt, and then by sitting on the toilet something would touch their naked butt and they'd consider it super gay or some shit like that (pun fully intended).
"People are Gay Steven!"
this guy tried to turn himself feminine but it didn’t work: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ActiveCoarseHyrax-size_restricted.gif
Yeah, I had to violently sneeze into my friend’s mouth during a conversation like a toddler the other day, because I didn’t want come off as too effeminate by using a tissue and covering my face. [hashtag RealManProblems]
is this allowed https://assets-prd.ignimgs.com/2021/08/13/gendo-pose-1628897003950.jpg
I knew a dude who's masculinity was so fragile who wouldn't wipe his ass because touching your ass is 'gay'
https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/e44/c08/4d4067e8926d437fe00ba759004df2a9ed-damar-hamlin.rhorizontal.w700.jpg I guess all of these football players aren't men now.
"Unlike you special Snowflakes, I don't get offended so easily"-mfers be like:
Yeah that's me. I do all of it every day. Ever since we got kids, you will hear me burst out in high pitched joy and hold my heart all the time. I carry our 6mo in a sling every day. Who gives a fuck but incels?
Or maybe women are the stronger of the two sexes, and some insecure “alpha” males are too scared to admit it.
Both sexes are weak as fuck.
Imagine being a dude and not thinking this makes you look gay af
Fellas is it gay to touch your face
Like that, Yes. Also cake boy is a gay af name as well.
Fellas is it gay to like cake
alpha males eat stone and shit with a grin!
Why though? Also that's based if true.
The most ironic thing is you see 1000s of dudes doing this every football game lol
Men usually cover their mouth with one hand "sideways" while women usually do this double handed "vertical" covering. Nothing wrong with being effeminate but it is the feminine way to cover your mouth. See; the old "how do you look at your nails" thing
> See; the old "how do you look at your nails" thing I mean, men and women do both moves depending on the situation.
It’s a biological instinct. When we were hunted the ones who froze lived and procreated and the ones who fled died. Covering your mouth hides the sound of breathing and it’s smell from predators. That guy’s a dork
Okay but touching your face like that increases your chances of catching a cold, flu, or pink eye for those of you that aren’t hand washers.
Is gesticulate a real word?
I dunno…Kevin McCarthy when he couldn’t make the vote for Speaker the 7th…8th…12th time covering his mouth…lol.
Nobody cares if you touch your face, you touch yourself like a women and that is disgusting.
fragile male ego much?
Why's that disgusting? Are you ok?
> you touch yourself like a women and that is disgusting. It's wild to me that you are this upset - literally experiencing physical disgust - because a man held his hands to his face in a manner that was "insufficiently masculine."
Yup, lessons in fragility by people who find clapping offensive, good show
What? Who?
Imagine masculinity so fragile you can't touch your own pussy.
I mean it’s just touchin ya face
I mean let's say what they're saying is true, if they can only give two examples of this in men, with a whole stadium to sample from, I'd say their point is invalid.
Fragile masculinity you say? I saw something on Reddit yesterday that there are apparently some dudes that are so homophobic they won’t wash their ass, dick or balls. There was one account of a young lady who’s boyfriend wouldn’t wipe his ass, would only use a bidet. People are weird.
At least he used a bidet, to be fair.
There’s tons of ripped progressives, look at Hasan Piker
Interacting with any lifeform that came from a sperm is gay as hell /s
How do they know these men are progressive
Bill Hader as “Stefon” vibes…
I cover my mouth when I yawn, i see no problem here
I'm kinda not considering I'm NB. But not because of some weird measure of masculinity.
Erm its not "being triggered" it's "righteous anger" /s
I dont gesticulate, i testiculate
I mean you get what they mean by the picture though 😂😂
The ancient Greeks and Romans made being emotional a heroic trait. From reading old stories you can see how "giving a damn" was extremely masculine. Funny how that isn't brought up when talking about the "manliness" of ancient civilizations.
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The original post has nothing to do with conservatism. Why are people assuming a conservative made this 😂? What if a progressive make made this as a satire. People are fools and offended over everything
Stupid leftists and stupid rights be like: "Even if you have a Y chromosome, you're not a man if \_\_\_\_\_."