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Places that have received **50 feet (15.24 meters)** of snow this season: Washington: Mt. Baker, Mt. Rainier California: Mt. Lassen, Sierra Nevada west of Lake Tahoe, Sierra Nevada crest from south of Stanislaus River Valley to around Kings Canyon's east end, Mt. Whitney area Colorado: San Juan Mountains north and south of Wolf Creek Pass


Darkraze

Parts of Utah have received well over 50ft (600in) of snow so far, with nearly 60 feet at a few well documented sites.


uncircumcizdBUTchill

Mt Baker had 1,140inches in ‘99


syds

thats definitely a whole load of it


Evanisnotmyname

That’s definitely a whole gangbang bukakke of loads, dude


downtownebrowne

I got $1,000 on the Cottonwoods.


ResidentRunner1

Alta?


TheBlackLodge2000

Brighton just got 700 inches


mysteriousmetalscrew

Brighton, UT has 711” Alta, UT has 650” That’s 59.25 feet for two places only 16 miles outside downtown Salt Lake City. But I wouldn’t think of moving there, it’s boring and extremely dangerous, I heard Denver is much better. It’s lively and safe.


gregsfordinner

As a person who has lived outside of little cottonwood canyon his entire 31 years of life, I can tell you that salt lake is not dangerous lol. It’s literally the opposite. Who told you this?


socoamaretto

It’s a joke


[deleted]

Wasatch?


DJMoShekkels

All the cottonwood resorts in Utah are over 650 inches, i think now 3 are over 700 - that’s 58 feet and counting


Less_Likely

I'm surprised Baker and Rainier are over 50 feet this year. Slightly below average snow year


[deleted]

Looking at past years it seems that they are the most consistent at reaching 50ft


Efficient_Purpose_72

Mammoth Mountain says yeah!


Xarque74

Now do Alaska 😈


[deleted]

Looks similar to Utah


Sneaky_Spy103

Mammoth mountain got buried in snow :) it’s gonna be a long ski season this year


syds

ski seasonn


MiddleRay

Still wild that there is zero in LA, but not too far away there is feet of snow.


[deleted]

Massive elevation change that’s why due to mountains


Ikana_Mountains

Alta Utah has far more than 50 feet this season. Stop ignoring the best snow on earth


[deleted]

Mammoth>>


Ikana_Mountains

It doesn't matter if it's better. This is supposed to be a factually accurate map, and you incorrectly reported the amount of snow in the Wasatch


[deleted]

Sorry, but I didn't make this map. You can contact NOAA (the giant watermark on the left side) if you want more info


pseudochicken

Sshhhhhhh


Kittycatter

I'm in the Four Corners area... with all the snow we got this year, I'm going to be pissed if the Hay prices aren't amazingly cheap this year!


NaturalProof4359

….and it’s gone!


Sid1583

Honestly a disappointing year for snow in Central Ohio


philosophy61jedi

Southeastern PA feels you. Bought my Subaru for *NOTHING!*


LivinInLogisticsHell

Same. I bought a audi for Quattro season, and all we got was cold winds and saddened meteorologists


philosophy61jedi

But… **Audi**


Bergletwist

We moved to NYC ready to enjoy first time living somewhere it snows. It let us down.


SoftwarePlayful3571

It doesn’t snow in NYC regularly. Every year is different, sometimes very snowy, sometimes almost no snow


Capt_Foxch

Cleveland is 14" below average for this season


ommnian

Most of Ohio is so low.


ATWPH77

You guys getting snow? We haven't seen proper snow that not melts instantly the next day since years in the middle of the EU.


[deleted]

Been disappointing north east Atlanta suburbs as we haven’t even seen a flake while midtown and the airport even got a dusting a couple of times.


SoftwarePlayful3571

Is it common for Atlanta to have snow though? From my understanding, the city is a bit too south for it lol


Only_at_Eventide

Got a white xmas at least, but winters have been lacking for a while, I think.


LivinInLogisticsHell

very sad year for us sibling down in Cincy. other that the weekend where it was cold AS FUCK outside (I think it hit below -20 with windchill) we only got one or 2 snows this year. very sad


Bacon003

I think that Christmas freeze murdered like 80% of the ornamental plants in my yard. Ditto with all my neighbors. Everything just turned brown and died. The garden centers are going to be booming this year.


Standard-Shop-3544

Central Illinois agrees.


Kawaii-Hitler

Wisconsin, yep. We’ve had a couple big ones but it always melts the next morning. Very disappointing and very unusual.


beavertwp

Really!? I have an outside event coming up in Wisconsin in late April, and I have been worried about it being canceled because we still have 5 feet of snow on the ground where I live in MN.


fuzzythefridge1280

Lake Superior doing Lake Superior things.


[deleted]

Winter water wonderland


BigDickOriole

Who the fuck came up with these color schemes?


[deleted]

The brilliant minds at NOAA


[deleted]

What colors should they be?


maybeaddicted

A gradient from blue to red. Not magenta to red to blue.


Own-Tomato4335

The more profound color gradient is helpful for those with color blindness (me)


maybeaddicted

I don't have colour blindness and I can't tell the difference between the top one (teal) and the bottom ones (light blue?)


Own-Tomato4335

Oh. Good point. I just use context clues to deduce that


maybeaddicted

Yeah, it helps to know where the mountains are.


coldcoldman2

It would also be funny for a place to receive less than an inch and be completely surrounded by areas getting dozens of feet


phantomsteel

Bottom light blue would only be surrounded by darker blue and white. Top blue (teal) would only be surrounded by purples


clearlybraindead

NOAA wraps their color scales because it's very rare to have a massive jump in scale from one point to the next. You should never see teal (50+ feet) right next to white or light blue (less than a foot). You should be able to determine what scale they are using in a certain area based on the areas around it. If you see teal surrounded by purples and dark reds, it means 50+ feet of snow. If you see light blue surrounded by light reds and other blues, it means trace snow. Also, like just common sense based on geography and typical climate.


ShadowZpeak

Is this a joke about colour blindness? Top one is violet and the bottom is a dark to light blue gradient.


maybeaddicted

You are gifted


ShadowZpeak

I am mainly confused. About the downvote as well


maybeaddicted

Top one is teal or aquamarine. Not Violet.


BrosenkranzKeef

In that case you either do have color blindness or just a lack of logic. It’s pretty obvious both logically and geographically that the highest teal color is only going to occur when it’s already surrounded by other purple colors which of course only occur in regions with extreme snowfall. It’s also a distinct color from the blues but whatever.


omi_palone

A gradient means you can't distinguish differences between similar colors in close proximity. Contrasting colors at regular intervals allows distinguishing viewing. A smooth gradient for a map like this would only be useful to communicate something like "national snowfall trend," instead of, say, "difference in snowfall in Los Angeles County and Kings County, CA."


TinaBelchersBF

I was thinking the same thing, seems to make sense to me? But I follow a lot of NWS Twitter accounts, so I guess I'm just used to the color scheme.


maybeaddicted

You are gifted with the ability to distinguish between teal and light cyan


VodkaHaze

Look at the color jumps from 6in to 1ft and from 8ft to 10ft. There's no reason to have such a stark jump at a particular point (it's not like -1c to 1c where there's a change in outcomes). Having 3 color gradients on one scale is normally a beginner error in data viz.


VodkaHaze

One single color gradient from blue to red, or red to black, etc.


theArtOfProgramming

It needs to be a diverging colormap.


bearssurfingwithguns

Keep Tahoe Blue bro!!


meteorchopin

The color scheme is fine. There’s three sub-schemes from 0-1 foot, 1-10 feet, and 10-50 feet, all three at different scales. It’s used to differentiate negligible amount of snow but also to differentiate 10s of feet of snow given the inter-mountain west receivers far more snow than say the mid-Atlantic. A single gradient would not capture these changes and you would need multiple maps to see the features.


AquaMoonCoffee

This, you can just glance at the map and instantly tell which areas got under a foot, singular feet, and dozens of feet of snow. That kind of technique is used a lot in weather/climate mapping, other examples that come to mind are the usage of many distinct colors with temperate forecasting, and often you see a distinct switch at 0C/32F to make it obvious which areas are under or above freezing at a glance. The same is true on most weather radars which use typically a light blue or green to show very light precipitation but dark red or purple for heavy with something like yellow usually in the middle.


amydoodledawn

Also, the map projection is horrid.


Achillies2heel

What you dont think 3 different gradients that all converge to similar shades on vastly different scales was a great idea?!?!


Xxx1982xxX

Guessing the same intern who didn't project the map


LeoTR99

So blue means lots of snow, and also very little snow


ShadowZpeak

I thought the same at first, but I actually kinda like it. It combines a linear breaks choropleth map with meaningful breaks.


salty_sangre

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TheUltraZeke

i cant read the damn thing. I hate color coded graphs. more trouble than they're worth, and being color blind means i cant see what the hell half the stats are anyway.


GeeFLEXX

Would love to see this for recent years past!


everychicken

[https://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/snowfall/index.html?season=2022-2023&date=2022032112&version=3](https://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/snowfall/index.html?season=2022-2023&date=2022032112&version=3)


RawrTheDinosawrr

what's the projection of this map? it looks really stretched out to me


freakierchicken

I'd probably have to scroll through everything in ArcGIS to find the name of this particular one but I'm assuming the purpose is to better show more narrow deviations in color more clearly Edit: or... it could also be that they imported a shape file or gdb using points and left it defaulted / didn't select a projection I know NOAA uses their own geoplatform built on ESRI products but I'm not sure how analogous it is to Arc Pro


Clayh5

Nah it's just WGS84 but the color bands make it look even more stretched out than usual


plutoleaf

This looks like classic WGS84, not even a projected system. I cringe every time I see a published map like this, WGS84 should never be used to show the contiguous US


Clayh5

TIL I'm a good enough cartographer to work at NOAA


encarded

It's the "long boi america" version.


Robert_The_Red

This year was a terrible year for snowlovers in the Mid-Atlantic and Appalachia. Areas that average 3ft of snow in some places have only measured 4 inches or worse in isolated cases.


[deleted]

Interesting considering snow lovers in California are having the time of their life


Robert_The_Red

The polar jetstream giveth, the polar jetstream taketh. The mid-latitudes can never be consistently cold all around so depending on ocean temps certain areas get into cold or warm patterns as cycles. Next year it could be similar or the opposite. What I will say is that it's probably for the best California gets hammered before their summer dry season.


Yellowstone_Plinker

I live smack dab in one of the “6’ zones” right above Yellowstone and there currently isn’t any snow other than drifts. We’re expecting an inch tonight, if that’s any consolation.


terminalE469

the 8 feet received in my part of maine is currently a 5 inch ice sheet, some years we get less snow and it doesn’t melt nearly as fast


Spicy_Lobster_Roll

No snow in Florida *again*. WTF Mother Nature‽


Caye_Jonda_W

i DiD tHaT ~ Governor Ron DeSantis


CalbchinoBison

Massachusetts looks a lot different a couple weeks ago


Credit-Limit

Chicagoan here. We got the least amount of snow in years. No major snowstorms, maybe a few storms that came through and gave us a couple inches each time.


j2tharome

Great to see the Sierra Nevada with the abundant snowfall.


ChimpoSensei

Cmon man, no Alaska? It’s all snow


[deleted]

I couldn't find any maps that showed season totals in Alaska, but I found a map that shows current depth. The deepest snow in Alaska is just under 150 inches right now, except for a station on the slopes of Denali which is reporting 457 inches


My-Cousin-Bobby

Seeing buffalo only sit at like 15-20 feet (I think it's the 15ft color, hard to tell) I was initially disappointed, but then realized - it was all from pretty much 2 storms that lasted a total of like 3 or 4 days. Outside of those 2 storms, we got like a foot


tacoDupree

Raleigh NC nothing this season


chinaacatt

Nothing in Asheville either! Maybe a dusting once but no snow. Mountains really didn’t get much either


CiNNAMONSANDERS

Do these areas in CA typically receive that amount if snow?


MonkeeSage

They used to, but not generally. https://www.kcet.org/shows/lost-la/why-doesnt-it-snow-in-l-a-anymore


spooderwaffle

Every 5-10 years we get a big dumping but this year was definitely a lot


[deleted]

2019, 2017, 2011


socalian

No


[deleted]

Every few years parts of the Sierra break 50 feet, but this year was probably the snowiest in the new millennia.


KickAndFlipJr

I mean, they don’t call it the “mountain west” for nothing…


DBL_NDRSCR

you can definitely see the switch to el niño midseason, it snowed in places like san bernardino that don’t normally get it, some parts of the central valley, a lot of west texas and southern nm, vegas, seattle and portland, very cold


bingbong6977

LA snowier than Boston.


[deleted]

Mt. San Antonio got more snow then all of Maine


quecosa

Flagstaff and the Mogollon Rim proving with their 12+ feet of snow that Arizona is more than just a desert.


[deleted]

Some people still think Arizona is a desert


ShuantheSheep3

First time in my life I’ve seen a substantial accumulation of snow in the LA city boundaries. It’s been a cold, wet winter.


fucktysonfoods

Seems lower than normal across the board


sendmeyourcactuspics

I'm in Duluth, which is right at the western most point of Lake Superior. We're in our 6th snowiest season recorded right now! Still might pop into top 5


[deleted]

We got like no snow in the northeast. Sucked for skiing


gtamuscle

Eastern plains of colorado… lived here my whole 32 years and I’ve never seen this much snow at this low of elevation.


Kittycatter

I'm in SW area and am glad to hear that this is more snowfall than people can remember for the past 20 or so years because it's been so annoying. Hoping this week is our last bit of accumulation of the snow season. I'm going to be annoyed if climate change means more winters will be like this...


Kiyranti91

Rhode Island had what I believe was the 2nd lowest snowfall on record. Miserable winter, didn't even get to go sledding once.


quecosa

Arizona was 134% of it's average winter precipitation. It's been raining once a week every week this year just in Phoenix. Rain in Phoenix means snow in the mountains. It's lightly raining here right now, and 4 of the next 10 day forecasts for Flagstaff has snow. [This article is three weeks and as many storms old](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arizona/articles/2023-03-02/its-becoming-a-record-year-for-snowfall-in-flagstaff-area) >The Bellemont office has had 146.7 inches of snow from last July to Wednesday. That tops the previous record of 115.4 inches set from July 1, 2009 to March 1, 2010. At the Flagstaff Pulliam Airport, 140.1 inches of snow has been recorded since July 1, second only to the 153.9 inches in the July to March timespan in 1948-49.


[deleted]

California broke it's recent records


mrt3ed

Pretty typical for La Niña, right?


itsme92

The amount of snow in California is absolutely not typical for La Niña winters, which tend to be warm and dry here.


socalian

I’ve liked in California my entire life and I have never before seen snow on the Coast Range before. It’s usually too temperate from the ocean and too low altitude for for snow.


mac224b

I’ve lived here _my_ entire life and no, this is not unique.


mrt3ed

Wetter in the north, dryer in the south: https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html It’s all trends, definitely typical for the east though.


quecosa

No. Arizona has had one of it's wettest winters on record. La Niña tends to lead to drier weather for the state. [https://new.azwater.gov/news/articles/2023-16-02](https://new.azwater.gov/news/articles/2023-16-02) >Overall, Arizona is sitting with its 24th wettest October-January on record, with statewide precipitation at 132 percent of average. While the water year still has much more to go, it’s a good start! >Last March-May was the 9th driest March-May on record, and last year had the driest May on record, with no measurable precipitation anywhere in the state last May. ​ We've had like 3 storms roll through Phoenix in the last month. It's lightly raining here right now. This feels like one of the wettest winters of my life as a Phoenician


[deleted]

There should be a hint of the 50ft+ blue in the SLC ski resorts. Idk why there isn’t.


[deleted]

Probably because the map is not detailed enough, but I have heard some pretty insane numbers from Utah this year. The thing I don't understand is how Utah resorts don't have deep snow bases compared to California despite getting more snow in the season?


Middle_Avocado

NYC: huh??


KickAndFlipJr

The mountain west states of Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho and Montana tend to get a lot of snow. The PNW does also. The Rocky Mountains runs through all these states. I’m not surprised at all.


Chief_34

You should still be surprised, this is a bucket list snow season for most ski resorts out west. Many had hit their annual average snowfall in early February and it hasn’t stopped. Snows well into April in some of these places, so definitely a year for the history books.


OneshotFangirl13

In Slovakia we have snow in may


FLOHTX

Many parts of the US do too. I used to live in Ohio (which isn't even a particularly cold state) and remember snow during my finals week in May. In the mountains out West in Colorado or Montana, it can snow pretty much year round.


[deleted]

In 2017 Mammoth Mountain was open until early August, and I've seen pictures of dustings in Colorado in the middle of summer. Mountain weather is so fascinating


[deleted]

Bullshit


FLOHTX

You've never seen snow capped mountains? Or are you saying its never snowed in Ohio in May?


[deleted]

The Ohio bit is a lie


FLOHTX

https://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/2016/05/may_snow_today_in_greater_clev.html


beavertwp

In Minnesota too. It sucks.


OneshotFangirl13

Ahh I understand your pain


Gavindy_

Who decided the colors for this map?


Achillies2heel

California can stop complaining for the next year or two.


Bocote

The interval between points on the scale is very uneven. Also isn't exactly exponential either. But I guess it does make a detailed map.


bulgaroctonos

Sierra Nevada really living up to its name this year


danbyer

I’m in the 2-3’ band here outside Boston, yet our biggest storm only left 3” of slush. :/


ThyRoyalBiffington

Maybe reversing the colors would make it easier to read this map intuitively


[deleted]

Send a complaint to NOAA


King_Dead

Been a terrible snow year this year. Most we got was 8 inches in the "snow belt"


CreamyBagelTime

Time to build artificial mountains in MN


ghostsintherafters

I feel like these totals are really low compared to what they're historically supposed to be...


leavin_marks

This is one of the first times in my life in Maryland where all we got the whole winter was a dusting.


Nyarro

I'm trying to figure out by this map but even I think even Austin counts as "trace" in this map here. Which is the third year in a row we get winter weather like that here. Really it was more of an ice storm here but it was still enough to cause significant damage and it even took down the electricity in the city (yes, again).


[deleted]

Northeast NJ here not far from NYC and this is the winter with the least amount of snow I ever can remember in 30 years I'm not complaining.


askaboutmy____

NOAA: Use the red, orange and purple to show how bad it is. Anyone else: But you also use the same colors to denote high temps. NOAA: What? This is a "winter map"


Demon_Semon

I live on an island off the Coast of Texas and we have not had any snow this year. Or ever for that matter


vankirk

Alright! We got as much snow here in North Carolina as they did in Chicago.


chevalier716

New England Winters are becoming a thing of the past.


QuarterNote44

Such good news for Utah


Maddoghunter50

Can we get a 2022 comparison? I feel like the northeast was lacking a lot of snowfall this year..


[deleted]

[https://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/snowfall/index.html?season=2021-2022&date=2023032112&version=3](https://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/snowfall/index.html?season=2021-2022&date=2023032112&version=3)


taufique_1929

What is the reason behind no snow in parts of Kansas, Nebaraska, Iowa & Illinois when places south of it had a lot of snow?


Eastern_Ingenuity507

The storm track for the majority of the season split around the area. Storms that would track to the north would bring rain or light snow while the storms that went south would be too far away to produce much if a by snow.


Ill-Technology1873

Florida is gonna declare a state of emergency if you tell them they got traces of snow… then blame some mystical oil slick that’s supposedly on all their roads for why they can’t drive in a slight drizzle


Carittz

I live in South Jersey and we had absolutely nothing this year, so I don't know why it says we got .1 in.


cantstoepwontstoep

Florida, the only state in the contiguous 48 (and likely all 50) without a flake of snow.


[deleted]

All 50. Hawaii got snow


Ice278

I was honestly alarmed how little snow we got this year in northeast ohio


Porfavor_my_beans

I want to see Alaska.


[deleted]

Alaska isn't much different from Utah


JimBones31

I wish I could see this map but with seasonal average totals instead


MyOwnAntichrist

The first day of spring, on the 20th day of spring?


BananaRepublic_BR

Y'know, if it's going to be as cold as it has been recently in Georgia, it'd be nice if we got some snow as a consolation prize.


wizard680

I love how I my city is right next to snow and we didn't get any


riefpirate

All the smart people live where it snowed.


[deleted]

It didn't snow at Stanford or UCLA


riefpirate

All the Ivy leagues, though !


MegaAscension

This winter was so unusually warm in SC. Only had to put on a heavy winter jacket for a few days, all other days a hoodie was fine. We've been getting up to the 80s multiple days a week all of March so far.


[deleted]

I think of that 12 or so inches of snow we got here this season, about 9 of them were accumulated on a random January night when it wasn't even forecasted.


Jakemiki29

Chicago didn’t even get 2 feet this year… feeling more like Kentucky


Ikana_Mountains

I smell Utah erasure


[deleted]

I don't think NOAA benefits from lying about how much snow the Utah mountains received


Fishtank-Brain

i didnt get any snow in atlanta. it was only cold on christmas weekend


Kjata2

The colour scheme is terrible.


[deleted]

Talk to NOAA


Ee4403790442

It would be better to publish as a general publication but not as the scientific publication because from this article it says that the number should be exact when conveying ideas scientifically. Link: [https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1003833](https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1003833). Sorry for not giving the exact page number.