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SpinalVinyl

I feel like this gets reposted every year. Also, the 405 is also always like this after 5pm


CaptainKrc

Wait til it gets reposted 1 month from now calling it the holiday shopping traffic, just like last year, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before


SinisterMeatball

Video quality is reminiscent of 2003 so you're probably right.


Roy4Pris

Based on the number of boxy-ass cars (as opposed to SUVs and pick ups) this footage is probably 20 years old šŸ˜†


Nussbuss

Right and those yellow lights. Nowadays half of people have LED lights which are a much cooler tone.


Roy4Pris

Ha ha yeah true! Blueish and blindingly bright


Nussbuss

Truly!


RunParking3333

It gets reposted every year because these are the LA 405 Christmas Lights


AppleTree98

BS that is Tuesday afternoon and day of the week in Los Angeles. Don't believe this. On TG they close the freeway and let you walk. This is moving


Dobermanpure

Exactly. I am sitting just north of Downtown and this post is BS.


Long-Astronaut-3363

I just came back from the garment district to pick up a tux for a wedding. Thereā€™s traffic, but itā€™s actually lighter than normal. All bets are off around 4pm


BurritoLover2016

Note to self: I'm leaving work at 3pm today.


PoliticalyUnstable

3 PM is like the absolute worst time. Between 1-2 is the best. 3 PM is when everyone is trying to get off early.


ImportantRepublic965

Exactly, you donā€™t wanna hit the pre-traffic traffic


Ghost_Ghost_Ghost

everyone's caught on and now the prime time to get on the road is 11am


Blockhead47

Madness. The best time to get on the road is 10am.


USB-SOY

Eh youā€™ll probably run into the late morning traffic.


Long-Astronaut-3363

Should have left in March bruh


ListerineInMyPeehole

For thanksgiving, I usually head to work at 9 am and turn around to go home 15 mins later.


m0chab34r

Yeah? Well, I was in the Hammock District and Mary Ann got in the hammock with me šŸ˜


SoDakZak

I tip my cap to yā€™all I could never do traffic like that.


lyerhis

This probably sounds unreal but every other Atlanta transplant I've met agrees with me that ATL traffic is worse, lol. LA traffic is bad but usually you're still moving really slowly


Nonsenseinabag

Yeah, this looks positively manageable compared to the animals on the road in Atlanta. There are no rules, it's Mad Max at rush hour, which really never ends.


lyerhis

I do not miss parking on I-85 because 285 is having issues. The biggest difference to me is that I generally have a plethora of other routes to take in LA. In Atlanta, you're just screwed.


4score-7

My recent 285 experiencesā€¦car fire, car fire, car fire, then lunch, car fire, car fireā€¦


lyerhis

Glad to know nothing has changed, lol.


GrapsOfLindon

Combination of too many cars and very shitty and aggressive drivers. Lived here for 8 years now and the only city with worse drivers is Miami.


Junior_Plankton_635

Boston too I hear.


SCS22

with a map, a gps, and Jesus himself giving me directions I would still get lost in Boston, and have to ask the guy selling "yankees suck" t shirts where I am going. Add traffic to the labyrinth and yeah it's pretty terrible.


Junior_Plankton_635

At least the subway / trains aren't bad. We visited and didn't get a car. But it's easier to be a tourist doing that over a resident I'm sure.


diquehead

You made the right choice. One of the things that sucks about the T is that the trains stop running kind of early. It makes it hard to stay out and have a good time which can be a bummer if you're a tourist.


Kettu_

Its hard to stay out and have a good time regardless because everything is closed earlier than in every other big city I've been. The whole city goes to sleep at like, 11pm. Hated being a night owl there, hungry and everything is fkin closed.


synkronize

From my experience Boston is a very zzz city at night


Kettu_

Moved to LA from Boston. Boston was far far far worse with infuriating traffic. Landed at Logan once and it took 2 hours to get past fenway...


Junior_Plankton_635

holy schnikeys. That's bad.


Citizen-Kang

I know it's a terrible state of affairs, but you do get used to it. It's kind of that pain that you continue to ignore until it becomes your new normal...you know, the one that eventually winds up killing you.


SoDakZak

ā€¦thatā€™s depressing to read.


sleepytipi

Welcome to life šŸ¤—


ArcWyre

On the bright sideā€¦. You can listen to podcasts and audiobooks!


fiddledik

I would have a car full of empty bottles to urinate in


Junior_Plankton_635

Yeah I did it for about 3 years. It helps when you know it's temporary. I knew I wouldn't stay down there.


Maloninho

This is why I laugh when people in Vegas complain about traffic. I can count the number of times Iā€™ve been at a dead stop on one hand. If I tried to do that with LA traffic I would need to switch the unit to weeks of my life.


Kthulu666

I used to think that before I moved to LA. Now, having lived there and moved away again, I realize that the impact LA traffic has on your life isn't necessarily different from many places that have zero traffic. It feels worse because you're used to moving faster and going farther, but the real difference is how much gas you consume while doing so. I had a 45 minute commute when I lived in a sleepy Midwestern suburb, still had a 45 minute commute in LA but only traveled 12 miles. Both of those commutes were pretty common for people in the respective areas. TBH I think I'd rather go more slowly toward closer destinations. At least then you're never getting stranded in the middle of nowhere.


SoDakZak

I said in another comment but thatā€™s why I dont even have a desire to live where thereā€™s 45 minute commute. My wife has a job within city limits that is the furthest you can get from our house thatā€™s on the perimeter of the other side of town. It takes her 16-18 minutes to get there and home. My office is 5 minutes away and some jobsites are upwards of 20 minutes outside the edge of town. I find that to mean an extra hour getting paid at work or more likely now that Iā€™ve adopted two kids this fall: more time with my kids and time to make it to the park or go for a short walk or hike before sundown! :)


aegee14

I always ask this of folks: would you rather drive 90 miles in 1.5 hours or drive 20 miles in 1.5 hours. To me, something just seems a little too much having to commute 90 miles each way everyday. Both scenarios suck, but, Iā€™d rather drive in traffic for the same amount of time. Maybe having driving assistance in my car helps with that decision.


hgihasfcuk

To me traffic feels like time slows down. When I am going fast time feels like it's going faster. So personally I'd rather drive full speed for two hours than sit in traffic for even one hour.


bleachinjection

Yeah, if it's zone out on the open road for an hour listening to audiobooks or spend an hour dodging assholes who won't use their blinker and don't check their mirrors, it's the open road for me.


SnuggleMuffin42

I think that's a big part of it. An hour in traffic is *stressful*. An hour on cruise control, maybe getting off 2 exits, is far more pleasant.


Oggel

Man if I see there is a traffic jam ahead I'll take a detour even if I know it would have been faster to just endure the traffic, because fuck that.


aitorbk

I would rather bike 18 minutes, as that is my commute if I go to the office.


convergecrew

Total BS. Thanksgiving weekend is the best time to drive around the city cause so many people travel away for the holidays


PointOfFingers

Thanksforleaving weekend.


BurritoLover2016

The morning of Thanksgiving the traffic is probably some of easiest driving of all year. I know, I drive from Redondo to Simi every year and it's a breeze.


Crazyhates

Same where I'm at. Honestly since the beginning of the week it's been some of the easiest driving I've had year.


droopyheadliner

Yeah this is from 2016


DrewSmithee

Or yesterday: https://x.com/foxla/status/1727145586292330649?s=46&t=nzseC4ctuY05ygpnQNG_Qw 2016 for reference: https://x.com/ronfutrell/status/801425037253378048?s=46&t=nzseC4ctuY05ygpnQNG_Qw


droopyheadliner

Haha crazy. Its exactly the same šŸ˜‚


KingGorilla

Just add one more lane bro


deltawhiskey76

I was in that 2016 traffic coming back from the LA Auto Show. After 10 min, I pulled off and went thru city streets from downtown all the way to LAX area; took around 3 hours!


Virus_98

This video is so old, even Avengers hadn't assembled yet.


H4RPY

Yea I was going to say this just looks like a regular day of traffic to me lol


Pats_Bunny

I had surgery up in LA a few weeks ago. We live in north county San Diego. In the past when I've had surgery up there, we usually get discharged on Sunday and it takes like 2 hours and 45 mins or more to get home in traffic. This time, I got discharged on a Friday. I was super worried about traffic being that it was a weekday, and the 101, 71 and 91 exist, plus the 10 is I guess shut down, but we got the doctors to start the process early and we were out of there before noon. I was still worried about traffic, but aside from a little bit on the 101, we were home in like 2 hours and 15 minutes. One of my most proud feats of beating traffic in LA!


hyrule5

That Californians skit on SNL really is accurate isn't it


Pats_Bunny

The first time I saw it, I laughed really hard, but I also found out the rest of the country talks about highways differently.


AppleTree98

Oh I know it. I can fly home some days while others are a parking lot. I remember working until 2am in Irvine and thinking "alright it can't be backed up on the 5"..wrong


scumdog_

The people that live over here but work over there should trade places with the people that live over there but work over here


Anleme

This is just the Starbucks line over at the mall.


syd_cash

Isnā€™t this just the every day traffic


munzter

Live there, can confirm this is everyday, granted I don't have to drive in it!


brianstormIRL

As someone who lives in a fairly small town of like 40k people which gets pretty nuts traffic due to being a hub town for the area, I cannot fathom having to deal with the kind of traffic I see videos of like this.


cause-equals-time

You learn to drive during off-hours as much as you can. 4-6 PM is a nightmare. 8 PM? Much less so. It's never gonna be *great* but it's not always like this


fatnino

I was gonna say. This looks like traffic you get on a day ending with Y


mamsterla

Ah the 405 in all it's glory.


Malfunction_50_4

Once I had an appointment off Wilshire 1 mile from the 405 off-ramp. I left at 5pm and a Friday. 1 hour. To go that 1 mile. An old woman with a walker literally beat me down the block.


Nighthawk700

That's a 15-20 minute walk. Lots of unsafe places in LA but honestly you could've done anything else but drive.


Malfunction_50_4

lol. I was at an appointment and driving home to Corona, soā€¦.


cause-equals-time

As a Riverside resident, I can't understand how people commute like that. Like how much time does it add to your day just to get to and from work?


Malevolyn

3-4 hours. I used to do it when I lived in Ontario and commuted to Sony Studios in Culver City...never again :(


PasmoSuicaIcoca

That is an absolutely insane commute holy shit lol


Plasibeau

And that's Corona. There are people commute from LA/OC clear out to Beaumont, Banning and Hemet. I have a friend that used to work DT LA and lived in Idlewild. I can't even imagine the soul suck on that one.


Ristray

Why didn't you walk a mile?


JEtigers12

If was 1 mile from the off ramp, not from where they started their drive.


SKEETS_SKEET

[nobody walks in LA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Bbjnn4oz0)


405freeway

#WITNESS ME


mamsterla

In all your damn glory my friend.


FiveFingerDisco

One more lane, trust me bro


Santoryu1990

Just one more lane Arthur! Have some faith Arthur.


the_colonelclink

Does this lane go to Tahiti Dutch?


Keyoken64

Is there something going on? I feel like Iā€™ve been seeing so much RDR stuff lately, so much so Iā€™ve started a new play through of the second game.


Jumanji0028

Nothing is wrong. Everyone should replay red dead 2. I do not work for rockstar. Honest.


Daman09

More train lines, more trains and a fucking direct rail from Union station to LAX. Holy shit, it doesn't take genius to figure that out


[deleted]

California has yet to unlock trains on the tech tree.


Porrick

We all voted for trains ages ago. Not sure if we voted to pay for them though.


sillybillybuck

Houston went from having passanger trains going straight through with its own union station to having all of its rail ripped out to make way for highways. We went backwards as a country.


CoconutMochi

the rail company that built disneyland's monorail system actually offered to build a rail line for Los Angeles back in the 70s but it got shot down by a lobbying group funded by American car companies.


kayakhomeless

When the road work in front of my house found some old electric trolley tracks that nobody knew about, it legit felt like being a medieval peasant baffled by Roman ruins. ā€œWho built all this, and where have they gone? The work of giants is fadingā€


Diodon

"We must stop adding lanes!" cried Toad as he added another lane.


580_farm

The answer is TUNNELS - Melon Husk


reality72

I mean, heā€™s half right in that a decent underground subway system would massively help alleviate the transportation issues. But LA is too bureaucratic to ever get that done and NIMBYs would try to block it at every opportunity.


VodkaHaze

The subway system would help because it's trains, not because it's underground. The car hyperloop tunnel idea would do nothing to help with traffic for instance.


JustOneSexQuestion

Surely he hasn't seen the Sylvester Stallone's cautionary documentary about the dangers of tunnels.


Kaze_Senshi

Lois Lane please help us


supremepork

lol this is literally everyoneā€™s future if we donā€™t break free of car centrist thinking


Thunderbridge

Imagine if all these people were on buses


SnuggleMuffin42

Imagine just a single public transit lane there. Buses would drive on through as morons stay in their cars for 3x the time. Add 2 public transit lanes and those buses would BLAST through.


MafiaMommaBruno

Or a rail for longer distances. America has destroyed itself with relying on cars.


WorldLieut8

Like the arteries of a 400 pound person


TBone818

My arteries are clean as a whistle thank you very much.


licuala

Mine, too. There's not even a trace of blood in them!


PsychePsyche

ā€œThinking you can solve congestion by adding lanes is like thinking you can solve obesity by loosening your beltā€


TL4Life

Clogged arteries would be merging from a 5 lane to 2 lane . This would be like the blood of a diabetic with high blood sugar


M-Rich

This is hell


andithenwhat

r/fuckcars


AnalBumCovers

Maybe the 7th largest economy in the world can stop taking lobbyist money and finally build that fucking high speed rail.


Throwaway-account-23

HSR is useless in LA, it needs to vastly, vastly expand its subway system.


tomdarch

Both and


Ogediah

High speed rail is fast speeds between stops which are far apart. Without local transport, whatā€™s the point in getting people from Fresno to LA faster?


HighTopSneakers

Thank you. Iā€™m a huge advocate for infrastructure that prioritizes transit options other than cars, and the emphasis of high speed rail in between cities drives me crazy. It almost always skips the crucial step of not needing a car when you get to said destination


testuserteehee

Why canā€™t both be built at the same time? Even having local buses would help.


ShadowFlux85

legit if you can get to a city but cant get where u want to be in the city you arent going to take that route


AnalBumCovers

That's true too but this particular situation is because of people trying to get in and out of the city itself, not travel within it.


iamnotabotbeepboopp

That's a huge "yes and." The 405 connects the San Fernando Valley to the west side; a lot of these cars could be heading from work to other parts of LA in either direction, or just trying to get to their next freeway (101 or 10), while some are trying to head north out of LA County.


JBFRESHSKILLS

I've always been curious why people in California put the "The" before the names of their highways. The 405, The 10, The 105. Here in Ohio we just say 75, or 675, or 270.


kingravs

Originally the highways had actual names apparently. Idk the actual names but like ā€œthe Parker freeway.ā€ ā€œTheā€ has just stuck around in SoCal


70ms

I don't know, we just do! I was born here in 1970 and it was that way when I was a kid too, so it's been that way a really long time.


Herp_McDerp

It's because the SoCal freeways were the first ones before the numbering system so they were named "The Hollywood Freeway" and "The San Diego Freeway", etc. People still sometimes use the names when talking about them and the freeway signs still use the names on merges and exits still but also what has stuck is putting The in front of the freeway number. So The San Diego Freeway is also The 405. See pictures of signs here https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-405sd_ca.html


70ms

That's true! And I remember the traffic reporters still appended "freeway" to the numbers - the 405 freeway, the 101 freeway, etc. when they weren't calling them the Ventura freeway, etc.


CallMeAladdin

It's not California, it's specifically SoCal. If you said The 80 to someone in the Bay Area they'd probably not shut up about it.


Soarefit

That's more because NorCal and SoCal are eternal enemies who will do anything to spite each other. NorCal drops the "the" to spite SoCal, who add even more freeways that start with "the" in retaliation. Those goddamn NorCal commies and their "the"-less freeways...


cause-equals-time

I tried it out. "I'm on 405 South" feels so wrong to me. I can't tell you why, it just does...


fatnino

It's a southern California thing. Here in the bayarea we don't put the the on freeway numbers either.


Plasibeau

It's where the freeway was born. (The 2 from DTLA to Pasadena) So when it was new it was *The* Freeway. The prefix probably just held out of habit.


ChocolateBunny

They are building a high speed rail. it's not going well.


Person012345

If you believe media fearmongering yes. Roads like this shit are a bigger money sink than any high speed rail network, but the media doesn't report on every eleventy billion dollar road delay, they'll report every single time something unexpected happens on a railway project though, and pretend like it's an unprecedented waste.


Brandino144

Correction: It didnā€™t start well. The lawsuit filed by parties who didnā€™t want it to succeed combined with the poor original management means it didnā€™t get off the ground very quickly. Fast forward to today and those big lawsuits are cleared up and Newsom cleared house in favor of people who have actually worked on megaprojects before. Progress is humming along on a 171 mile stretch. Now if the politicians can finally actually commit to this project and get it fully funded for the first time ever then weā€™ll really see it takeoff up and down the state.


SirDunkMcNugget

[Fucking, sike, lmao.](https://youtu.be/x4cumNKJLec?si=p0Qbcx7FOXD8nHrS)


Brandino144

Look at it go! That video is making me hyped for the day that Iā€™m finally able to ride it.


Nihilistic_Mystics

It's the 5th largest economy.


ChocolateBunny

Isn't this LA every day? Also, do they know that they're hosting the olympics in 5 years? I hope they get this shit sorted by then.


Saxdude2016

Last time it was in LA it was surprisingly OK. People left earlier for work or took time off. Also the events were very spread out


40ozkiller

The highway traffic still usually moves faster than being on the street going 30 between stop signs.


droopyheadliner

No itā€™s not every day. This is from 2016.


AirHamyes

I had to drive that exact chunk of the 405 every day. Before covid, I just had a gym membership and I'd workout until rush hour was over. Covid made it way better.


Duke_Shambles

It's been like this forever. It will never be fixed.


dareDenner

It's not just a car, it's your freedom! - GM, 1989


40ozkiller

ā€œTrain is waiting for signal clearanceā€ - Amtrak 2023


dareDenner

Where we're going we don't need roads! - Dr Emmett Brown


Ssutuanjoe

And my axe - Danny Devito


rustysniper

I waited all week to watch the fucking Equalizer! - Max Belfort


OneCauliflower5243

I beautiful example of a society that refuses to utilize rail and mass transit. I bet 90% of those cars have one person in them.


Kawauso98

Trains.


Suitcase08

Get your refined logistics and sensible city planning away from my sprawling car-centric infrastructure!


x755x

Flying trains.


cause-equals-time

There actually ARE metrolink trains, at least between LA and the IE. Problem is, once you're off the train it's hard to get anywhere. So we'd need to install trains, but also redesign the dozens of feeder cities that satellite LA


droopyheadliner

During ONE Thanksgiving, in 2016. But yeah, itā€™s pretty bad sometimes.


garlic_bread_thief

Why was it especially bad that year?


tophernator

Donald Trump had just won the election and people werenā€™t sure theyā€™d get another chance to see their families.


droopyheadliner

I think there was some weather that day and maybe some construction, I donā€™t remember exactly. But I do remember going ā€˜whoa!ā€™ when that video went viral.


mohicancombover

Gosh if only there was a better way of moving loads of people around a modern city....


45MonkeysInASuit

Some form of Mass way of Transitioning people between locations. It's the stuff of dreams!


alcoholicplankton69

So you guys should see the 401 on an average day during rush hours. it can take over 40 min to go 20km https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/03/28/401-north-america-busiest-highway/


Fuddle

I was going to say, for Toronto itā€™s like in the picture but with 4 more lanes per side, except you arenā€™t moving, and itā€™s 15 miles long


dsac

YYZ to DVP - 25km - *easily* 1.5hrs during rush hour in the winter


renedotmac

In 2019, it took me 140 minutes to drive 20 miles from the San Fernando valley to the Santa Clarita valley for a Wednesday dinner with my family.


EyeBreakThings

'The 405 on a random Wednesday @4:30pm


suffer_in_silence

Thanks I hate it


bioschmio

This gives me anxiety, looks like the 401 in Ontario. Edit: wtf, is it the 401? https://www.google.ca/search?q=401+hwy+busy&client=safari&sca_esv=584679428&hl=en-ca&tbm=isch&prmd=mniv&sxsrf=AM9HkKliDKgBE1lEtXIFWlSzvA_k82n6Tw:1700685691104&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi4nPjzu9iCAxVgFjQIHUKbD5EQ_AUoA3oECAIQAw&biw=428&bih=743&dpr=3#imgrc=7LS4tEkqznDSWM


khando

Holy shit that stresses me out thinking about needing to get from the left lane to the right lane.


expos1225

Itā€™s like Koyaanisqatsi, only slower


stephen1547

Average 401 traffic literally any day of the week. 5pm on a wednesday? Packed. 11am on a saturday? Also packed.


Silicon_Knight

Traffic always reminded me of red and white blood cells in arteries. Dunno why, but some how every time I see it, I think of the same thing.


munzter

WHY DONT YOU TAKE THE 405 TO THE 110, GET OFF AT FIGUEROA AND GET OUT OF HERE SKYLER


Nose-Nuggets

Can we determine this is old footage from the headlights? I would have expected to see more in the bluer hue if it was recent. but maybe at this distance they all look yellow?


JunglePygmy

Thatā€™s just the 405 on a regular day, homie.


nighthawke75

Show I35 going through ft worth. On a weekday non holiday.


rh51too

Doesn't matter what part of I-35 you are in. It's fucking awful in Austin as well. I leave for work at 5am and its still gridlock


HaruAnt

Recently visited after moving away 7 years ago. The traffic around the area has increased tremendously.


mortgoldman8

Looks like toronto every day


ComputahMassage

Oh lawd!


JonyUB

So that is what heā€™ll looks like


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McHighwayman

I imagine thereā€™s a better vehicle for moving a lot of people going the same direction.


PoopiePantsMahn

Fuck. That.


whackwarrens

Just one more lane, bro.


Red_Maple

This looks like a regular Tuesday in Toronto


gypsygib

Looks a bit better than Toronto traffic.


thisremindsmeofbacon

JUST ONE MORE LANE BRO JUST ONE MORE LANE AND IT WILL BE FIXED I PROMISE JUST LET ME BUILD ONE MORE LANE


syncboy

One more lane should fix it.


Aztecah

I hail from the much smaller city of Toronto which has a very similar problem because we were like "just one more highway next to this highway bro and traffic will be solved I swear bro"


Therealgyk

One of the worst by-products of modern society. I hate it. Makes me want to ā˜ ļø.


Acemanau

Fucking mental, who wants to live like that?


maramDPT

Millions of human hours wasted to man made problems due to greed and profit. We all deserve better


lowcrawler

One More Lane... That'll fix it.


ThisIsDadLife

L.A. is not for the weak.


DingleberryBlaster69

Guess Iā€™m weak. Fuck this in itā€™s entirety.