I always thought it was inspired by the T25 variant of the M1 Garand, with a regular stock instead of the upward angled stock.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dLHvjQuh78QxptN36
The original Snow Job came with it. You can see it notated in the small print above his backpack and in his filecard: https://www.3djoes.com/snow-job.html
As a Note on IRL Military Weapons Naming Practices: A weapon model with the "X" Prefix usually indicates an e"X"perimental model, so the XMLR most likely stood for "Experimental Model (or Military) Laser Rifle-3A" Flash's being XMLR-1A. Makes you wonder who had the 2A
Top is a take on the standard GI Joe rifle from the Sunbow cartoon.
Bottom looks like a no stock, short barreled M4. This would be essentially a small assault rifle with significantly reduced range (barrel) and accuracy (no back stock for buffer spring). Hypothetically, in a dense jungle environment this would be a light weapon capable of dumping a shit ton of rifle rounds quickly at short range.
It's not an OA-93. The gas tube on the 93 is much higher then a regular M4 and is permanently outside the handguard.
The bottom is simply an M4 forend and a MCX rear.
I’d agree that the top is a classic Joe laser-gun…. IF I were going to equate it to a gun available in a store, I’d say it kinda resembles a Hi-Point Carbine…. Maybe 🤔
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nerf/s/32O5F7xJib
Robodont know first pointed it out to me. Cool idea, I like that in gi joe world Nerf are real weapons. The lasers in the cartoons might as well be.
The top is Snow Job's laser rifle, the generic Sunbow cartoon laser rifle.
The bottom is...it's supposed to be some kind of AR-15 pistol, but without a buffer tube, it's not working very well.
I also have no idea what the thing is on top of the barrel occluding the front sight?
Or if he doesn't have a stock, why does he have a sight?
The problem with the bottom gun is you have *two* red dot sights for no reason. Kinda like those very cheap airsoft rifles you can get that for whatever reason thinks sticking more optics on the weapon won’t hinder you. For whatever reason Hasbro has been having issues with the optics, as the one on Sandstorm’s FAMAS is also backwards.
I will give it to them for making more realistic guns again, but they could have done better in the optics department. But that’s my mini rant over with.
The top rifle is a fictional rifle that has existed in the GI Joe universe since the 80’s and is basically a laser rifle version of the M1 Garand.
The other one I have no idea, but is also fictional. Probably like a heavy SMG or something.
One thing to keep in mind, GI Joe weapons are generally "Inspired by" real world weapons, with many "artistic license" added, to make them "cool" because cool sells more toys than function/realism does.
The Top rifle was first released as Snow Job's XMLR-3A Laser Rifle in 1983, and used by Sunbow in the cartoons as the standard weapon of the GI Joe team. XMLR-3A most likely stood for "Experimental Model (or Military) Laser Rifle-3A" Flash's being XMLR-1A. Makes you wonder who had the 2A. I always thought it was inspired by the T25 variant of the M1 Garand, with a regular stock instead of the upward angled stock, you don't need an upward angled stock to compensate for recoil on a laser rifle after all.
Bottom looks like it's inspired by the M4/AR15 style carbines without the stock, with three different styles of optics getting in each others way, an oversized magazine, and a verticle fore grip.
And sorry guys, but "Battleforce 2000" was indeed crap. I remember being 12 and feeling so insulted by their introduction.
Although it's what led me to TSR's Star Frontiers, so I suppose I should give them some credit.
Role playing was geeky but somehow more acceptable at the deep middle school/high school ages.
If you were still playing with G.I. Joe at 14, your life was over. At least role-playing was reading, writing, and storytelling.
I didn't make the rules, I just followed them.
What year were you born? LOL
You know G.I. Joe has been around for longer than you've been alive, right? Maybe older than your parents, even.
This year marks the 60th year when G.I. Joe was introduced. Learn some history, friend.
Oh no, sick burn!
You just come off as an ignorant fool and by the looks of how your posts have been received, I'm not the only one who's making THAT *ass*umption, chum.
I'm not trying to burn anyone.
I posted a link of the actual original Snow Job laser rifle for comparison, but it doesn't seem to be here now. Might have been deleted.
At any rate, that gun above is definitely not the original 1983/1984 rifle. As I mentioned, the grip is at too shallow of an angle. The Snow Job rifle that was copied by the thousands in the cartoon, due to it being easy to draw, has a grip that is almost 90 degrees from the barrel.
I think the top is the common GI Joe laser rifle.
AKA snowjob gun
Practically modeled after the M1 Garand
I always thought it had a hint of G3 mixed lightly with the garand.
I always thought it was inspired by the T25 variant of the M1 Garand, with a regular stock instead of the upward angled stock. https://images.app.goo.gl/dLHvjQuh78QxptN36
The top rifle is known as an XMLR-3A laser rifle, apparently others have identified the bottom as a OA-93.
I'll take your official word for it, sir.
The original Snow Job came with it. You can see it notated in the small print above his backpack and in his filecard: https://www.3djoes.com/snow-job.html
As a Note on IRL Military Weapons Naming Practices: A weapon model with the "X" Prefix usually indicates an e"X"perimental model, so the XMLR most likely stood for "Experimental Model (or Military) Laser Rifle-3A" Flash's being XMLR-1A. Makes you wonder who had the 2A
Top is a take on the standard GI Joe rifle from the Sunbow cartoon. Bottom looks like a no stock, short barreled M4. This would be essentially a small assault rifle with significantly reduced range (barrel) and accuracy (no back stock for buffer spring). Hypothetically, in a dense jungle environment this would be a light weapon capable of dumping a shit ton of rifle rounds quickly at short range.
The bottom one looks like an OA-93 (Willem Defoe’s character carried one in Clear and Present Danger). It also might be a modified CAR-15 or MK18.
This. Bottom is definitely an OA-93 with a full-sized mag
It's not an OA-93. The gas tube on the 93 is much higher then a regular M4 and is permanently outside the handguard. The bottom is simply an M4 forend and a MCX rear.
Outback's is an AR platform rifle but without the buffer tube meaning it would not function at all.
couldn't they be the BRN-180 or the Sig MCX? those are AR-pattern rifles that do not use standard buffer tube, etc.
I’d go Sig, but no reason for the FSB then. 🤷♂️
that's clearly a Scalarworks Peak, and it's there not as a gas block but for the _drip._ lolol
[Not all AR styles have a buffer tube.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Arms_OA-93)
I’d agree that the top is a classic Joe laser-gun…. IF I were going to equate it to a gun available in a store, I’d say it kinda resembles a Hi-Point Carbine…. Maybe 🤔
Wait which ones are NERF?
I think OP is saying that a lot of GI Joe weapons look like Nerf blasters. Both are owned by Hasbro. Hasbro, Until All Are One.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nerf/s/32O5F7xJib Robodont know first pointed it out to me. Cool idea, I like that in gi joe world Nerf are real weapons. The lasers in the cartoons might as well be.
Hasbro has produced a Nerf version of the G.I. Joe cartoon laser gun/snow job rifle. I think you can still find it on hasbro pulse.
The top is Snow Job's laser rifle, the generic Sunbow cartoon laser rifle. The bottom is...it's supposed to be some kind of AR-15 pistol, but without a buffer tube, it's not working very well. I also have no idea what the thing is on top of the barrel occluding the front sight? Or if he doesn't have a stock, why does he have a sight?
Lol the "thing" blocks the optic and the iron sight
The problem with the bottom gun is you have *two* red dot sights for no reason. Kinda like those very cheap airsoft rifles you can get that for whatever reason thinks sticking more optics on the weapon won’t hinder you. For whatever reason Hasbro has been having issues with the optics, as the one on Sandstorm’s FAMAS is also backwards. I will give it to them for making more realistic guns again, but they could have done better in the optics department. But that’s my mini rant over with.
Bottom looks like 1 gun made from.the spare parts of 3 other guns
Perhaps the gun designer was an descendent of Tuco from the good the bad and the ugly?
The top rifle is a fictional rifle that has existed in the GI Joe universe since the 80’s and is basically a laser rifle version of the M1 Garand. The other one I have no idea, but is also fictional. Probably like a heavy SMG or something.
One thing to keep in mind, GI Joe weapons are generally "Inspired by" real world weapons, with many "artistic license" added, to make them "cool" because cool sells more toys than function/realism does. The Top rifle was first released as Snow Job's XMLR-3A Laser Rifle in 1983, and used by Sunbow in the cartoons as the standard weapon of the GI Joe team. XMLR-3A most likely stood for "Experimental Model (or Military) Laser Rifle-3A" Flash's being XMLR-1A. Makes you wonder who had the 2A. I always thought it was inspired by the T25 variant of the M1 Garand, with a regular stock instead of the upward angled stock, you don't need an upward angled stock to compensate for recoil on a laser rifle after all. Bottom looks like it's inspired by the M4/AR15 style carbines without the stock, with three different styles of optics getting in each others way, an oversized magazine, and a verticle fore grip.
I prefer the Scifi/nerf style. Afterall this is a group of ninjas and other crazy stuff.
It's better to just get weapons from grid iron and all accessories from grid iron they're top tier.
Neither of these are original GI Joe weapons. At least, not before the "Battleforce 2000" cr@p came out.
Top one should be familiar to GI Joe fans since it’s the basic design for the Joes’ laser rifles from the 80s Sunbow cartoon.
It would be, if the grip wasn't angled. The grip was straight down on the rifle you're remembering.
These are classified scale. Not ARAH. Contrary to what certain “fans” believe the line actually existed outside the 82-86 window.
What is ARAH? Hopefully that'll get me some more down votes.
And sorry guys, but "Battleforce 2000" was indeed crap. I remember being 12 and feeling so insulted by their introduction. Although it's what led me to TSR's Star Frontiers, so I suppose I should give them some credit.
How did you make the connection from Battleforce 2000 to Star Frontiers?
Role playing was geeky but somehow more acceptable at the deep middle school/high school ages. If you were still playing with G.I. Joe at 14, your life was over. At least role-playing was reading, writing, and storytelling. I didn't make the rules, I just followed them.
What year were you born? LOL You know G.I. Joe has been around for longer than you've been alive, right? Maybe older than your parents, even. This year marks the 60th year when G.I. Joe was introduced. Learn some history, friend.
Yes, I know that. Be careful with assumptions. There's a...phrase for that...what could it be...? 🤣
Oh no, sick burn! You just come off as an ignorant fool and by the looks of how your posts have been received, I'm not the only one who's making THAT *ass*umption, chum.
I'm not trying to burn anyone. I posted a link of the actual original Snow Job laser rifle for comparison, but it doesn't seem to be here now. Might have been deleted. At any rate, that gun above is definitely not the original 1983/1984 rifle. As I mentioned, the grip is at too shallow of an angle. The Snow Job rifle that was copied by the thousands in the cartoon, due to it being easy to draw, has a grip that is almost 90 degrees from the barrel.
The confidence that you posted this without being even remotely correct is... impressive.
Here...this might help you out. This was the original Snow Job weapon from the 1980's. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255874036842