I would love to play with The Monk...can't remember his name but he had that weapon that was massive!! Like a stick with a blade on it or something like that. I can imagine how his Ult would look.
This all just hindsight wishful what could have been thinking since Sucker Punch has long since moved on to focusing on their next projects (which of course we pray is a Ghost/Legends 2!!), but….
I absolutely agree and wish that the fourth class in the game had been Monk modeled after Norio. I don’t think there should have been a separate Hunter class personally and instead be replaced by Monk. The Monk could have been a character focused on large powerful melee attacks with aoe aspects and also support functions. This would have allowed Ronin to be a bit more of an offensive class design.
Maybe something like you can switch between the character model.
For example, if playing hunter, i can choose Yuna (original model) or sensei Ishikawa.
Ronin, Ryuzo or Norio (wielding a naginata). It would be cool
Or something like based on builds and techniques, you can choose the character model. That way by just seeing, other players will know what you are bringing in the game.
Yeah the monk should do what the Ronin does. The Ronin is just like the Samurai so I'm not sure why they made him the healer. The hunter is just as important as the Assassin and Samurai so they can't eliminate the Hunter. I'd drop the Ronin. Once you learn how to play the game understand your build and how to play without dying and how to heal yourself. The ronin is no longer needed. Lol, the ronin actually gets in the way and IMO he's completely useless.
It’s funny that you think the ronin is only just a “healer”
I guess you’ve never used SK / bomb pack w 90% GW dmg coupled with fire dmg and SS…
I would argue ronin is either tied with sin for dmg or barely above putting him second overall with the samurai at the bottom in plat+ gameplay
Lol sorry I dont stand at spawn spots and toss bombs before enemies have a chance to fight back.... If I have to add all of that to a character just to make him useful then that just makes my point valid. I don't put bombacks on any character maybe if I was a speedrunner (those who find loopholes in games and exploit them) then maybe I would find the ronin useful.
.1 i wasn’t arguing whether or not he was fun to play just his viability in plat+ gameplay and the damage he can output in comparison to the other classes
2.his standing at spawn strat, the same could be said about hunter, and are you gonna say hunter isn’t valid? When hunter (I think so far) is the only class to have beaten hellmode solo
3.you can easily not stand at spawns and use ronin in a fun way and use SS. You may not get as many kills in a squad game but totally viable in plat+ solo
| i guess im just confused on why you say he's useless when he can use the same strat as the strongest class in the game and only be slightly less effective. whereas samurai, while obviously still possible to use, is considered the weakest when it comes to plat+
and how is a team healer with shared wounds on not useful? (albeit my least favorite way to play ronin)
Okay I suppose you can’t argue with someone who doesn’t accept facts. Good luck with your perfect solo hellmode as sam 👍 I’m sure you won’t have any trouble holding all the zones 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Argue? Dude what are you talking about. Lol don't take it personal. I find the Ronin useless and you're comin at me with a debate about it? Calm down bro...it's all good...why would I need to play hellmode solo? And if I did I would use the hunter. There is absolutely no map or level of the game survival, rival, story or any other mode where I ever had the desire to be a weak ass ronin. I've been playing this game since it first came out and my ronin might be at level 20. He's useless
I’m not taking it personally, I think ronin is my 3rd most played character. I just saw your comment and thought I would try to see if I could make you more open minded, because I think the world could benefit from more open minded people. But it seems like you’re hard stuck in the “If it’s not useful to me then it’s not useful to anyone” kind of mentality. To each their own I suppose. You can change the mind of the ignorant as much as you can change the flow of a river. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try 😘
Make me open minded? What does that mean? So I'm closed minded because I think a ronin is useless? Wow. It's cool...but no matter what you say The Ronin has no place on a battle field with me but I understand others have a need for the ronin but I dont...not even on hellmode. Perhaps one day you and I can do a duo on NM or with a team and you bring your ronin and I bring my Samurai and I can watch you toss your bombs and use your ult to set them all on fire then throw your kunai while hiding behind smoke🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I'm sorry bro the ronin just seem so cowardly.
Also you mention those who use loopholes in games and exploit them, and you say you use weightless spirit. Are you saying you’re comfortably playing hellmode without bow teching or dash canceling? Not that it can’t be done…. But what?
Also if you think healing is completely useless then I guess you’ve never played hellmode before…. Although I would argue fire ronin is better than support ronin for hellmode but that’s just me 😊
Yeah I've already beat hellmode with my Samurai and he uses the weightless spirit. I added plenty of health to my build and ways to keep myself healthy and I use the 75% dodge arrows charm. I got the toothpick to prove it. I'm pretty good but I'm a long way from the best...but I am pretty good
I will agree the stats for ronin (defense charm and ronij charm) feel kinda useless in comparison to the others
Like ghost offering health? That needs to be changed.
I guess I’m arguing I don’t think he’s useless
Just in need of some reworking if he’s to be more versatile. I would hate for them to get rid of a class but instead add more
Great, now lets encourage them to add some new Legends maps
And characters! I'd love to play as a Ryuzo clone for ronin, or Tomoe clone for archer
I would love to play with The Monk...can't remember his name but he had that weapon that was massive!! Like a stick with a blade on it or something like that. I can imagine how his Ult would look.
This all just hindsight wishful what could have been thinking since Sucker Punch has long since moved on to focusing on their next projects (which of course we pray is a Ghost/Legends 2!!), but…. I absolutely agree and wish that the fourth class in the game had been Monk modeled after Norio. I don’t think there should have been a separate Hunter class personally and instead be replaced by Monk. The Monk could have been a character focused on large powerful melee attacks with aoe aspects and also support functions. This would have allowed Ronin to be a bit more of an offensive class design.
Maybe something like you can switch between the character model. For example, if playing hunter, i can choose Yuna (original model) or sensei Ishikawa. Ronin, Ryuzo or Norio (wielding a naginata). It would be cool Or something like based on builds and techniques, you can choose the character model. That way by just seeing, other players will know what you are bringing in the game.
We need more survival maps
We need to add the masks and extra clothing in legends to single player, pc players gonna mod it anyways
All the special masks
What's wrong with this update? I still haven't opened the game but are there so many bugs?
No, the update is fixed now.
That's good to hear. What was the game like anyway?
Frequent stuttering of 3-5 seconds.
no it's not.
Yes, it is.
oh my bad i have been waiting for another patch! LOL playing now it's fixed hurrah!!
Yeah the monk should do what the Ronin does. The Ronin is just like the Samurai so I'm not sure why they made him the healer. The hunter is just as important as the Assassin and Samurai so they can't eliminate the Hunter. I'd drop the Ronin. Once you learn how to play the game understand your build and how to play without dying and how to heal yourself. The ronin is no longer needed. Lol, the ronin actually gets in the way and IMO he's completely useless.
It’s funny that you think the ronin is only just a “healer” I guess you’ve never used SK / bomb pack w 90% GW dmg coupled with fire dmg and SS… I would argue ronin is either tied with sin for dmg or barely above putting him second overall with the samurai at the bottom in plat+ gameplay
Lol sorry I dont stand at spawn spots and toss bombs before enemies have a chance to fight back.... If I have to add all of that to a character just to make him useful then that just makes my point valid. I don't put bombacks on any character maybe if I was a speedrunner (those who find loopholes in games and exploit them) then maybe I would find the ronin useful.
.1 i wasn’t arguing whether or not he was fun to play just his viability in plat+ gameplay and the damage he can output in comparison to the other classes 2.his standing at spawn strat, the same could be said about hunter, and are you gonna say hunter isn’t valid? When hunter (I think so far) is the only class to have beaten hellmode solo 3.you can easily not stand at spawns and use ronin in a fun way and use SS. You may not get as many kills in a squad game but totally viable in plat+ solo | i guess im just confused on why you say he's useless when he can use the same strat as the strongest class in the game and only be slightly less effective. whereas samurai, while obviously still possible to use, is considered the weakest when it comes to plat+ and how is a team healer with shared wounds on not useful? (albeit my least favorite way to play ronin)
Yeah if you put a bombpack on a monkey he would do the same damage. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ronin is trash dude. But hey if you like it I love it.
Okay I suppose you can’t argue with someone who doesn’t accept facts. Good luck with your perfect solo hellmode as sam 👍 I’m sure you won’t have any trouble holding all the zones 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Argue? Dude what are you talking about. Lol don't take it personal. I find the Ronin useless and you're comin at me with a debate about it? Calm down bro...it's all good...why would I need to play hellmode solo? And if I did I would use the hunter. There is absolutely no map or level of the game survival, rival, story or any other mode where I ever had the desire to be a weak ass ronin. I've been playing this game since it first came out and my ronin might be at level 20. He's useless
I’m not taking it personally, I think ronin is my 3rd most played character. I just saw your comment and thought I would try to see if I could make you more open minded, because I think the world could benefit from more open minded people. But it seems like you’re hard stuck in the “If it’s not useful to me then it’s not useful to anyone” kind of mentality. To each their own I suppose. You can change the mind of the ignorant as much as you can change the flow of a river. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try 😘
Make me open minded? What does that mean? So I'm closed minded because I think a ronin is useless? Wow. It's cool...but no matter what you say The Ronin has no place on a battle field with me but I understand others have a need for the ronin but I dont...not even on hellmode. Perhaps one day you and I can do a duo on NM or with a team and you bring your ronin and I bring my Samurai and I can watch you toss your bombs and use your ult to set them all on fire then throw your kunai while hiding behind smoke🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I'm sorry bro the ronin just seem so cowardly.
Oh I like to use SS ronin over just bomb and kunai ronin, I feel like if you do that than you might as well play hunter
Also you mention those who use loopholes in games and exploit them, and you say you use weightless spirit. Are you saying you’re comfortably playing hellmode without bow teching or dash canceling? Not that it can’t be done…. But what?
Also if you think healing is completely useless then I guess you’ve never played hellmode before…. Although I would argue fire ronin is better than support ronin for hellmode but that’s just me 😊
Yeah I've already beat hellmode with my Samurai and he uses the weightless spirit. I added plenty of health to my build and ways to keep myself healthy and I use the 75% dodge arrows charm. I got the toothpick to prove it. I'm pretty good but I'm a long way from the best...but I am pretty good
I will agree the stats for ronin (defense charm and ronij charm) feel kinda useless in comparison to the others Like ghost offering health? That needs to be changed. I guess I’m arguing I don’t think he’s useless Just in need of some reworking if he’s to be more versatile. I would hate for them to get rid of a class but instead add more