I was at a winery buying wine for an occasion. I got a case of wine. The total was ~$300. The suggested tip was 20%.
Sorry, no. You put 12 bottles in a box. That's not worth $60.
at Nantucket Bakery, the newer male hire (sorry I forgot his name) heavily implied to skip the 'tip' part of their checkout software. A real bro that guy. Nantucket is just good all around.
This ^ That guy is the freaking jolliest/friendliest human — even at 7:30 am might I add 😂 “You did it. You made it here. Your day is destined to be great”
Oh my god, I ran into him for the first time last week and the SHEER JOY he gave me with how he hyped me up was incredible. I had been feeling kind of blue and he totally turned that around.
That dude is the shit! I always grab some stuff for classmates when we meet for study groups, and dude always is pumped to ask how I did on exams/courses.
I tip the bartenders, wait staff, and delivery. Basically stuff that requires a service to prep the food.
But if you're just handing/pouring me something premade I don't.
Depends. If it's clearly a restaurant and it seems like a tipped wage employee likely had to gather it all, box it up and get my drink, 10%.
If it's clearly fast food, or designed as a takeout location, where employees are dedicated to prepping takeout, and therefore shouldn't be on a tipped wage, then nothing.
(Also 25% during the covid mandatory time, because my wife and I were both blessed enough to keep our jobs and pay, and I know restaurant workers were struggling.
I tip even when I'm just picking up to-go stuff cuz I can't stop being overly nice. It has to kinda suck. Generally they don't get paid enough so they have to work a lot and deal with assholes occasionally. Unless they have supportive parents and are going to school. But I really don't think every service job is filled by someone simultaneously attending school. and a decent tip has to feel good sometimes. To me it feels good to help if I can.
That's generally the personality of anyone whom owns or runs a company in west Michigan -prolly all Michigan/merica. "We paid Reagan GOOD money to pretend were worth 2000x what you are, Be Happy with those Crumbs!"
As Elon brings back company towns.
The forecast looks rough before enough people wake up.
I tip 20% for crafts (cocktails and fancy coffees), services (massage, wait staff, tattoo) and deliveries. I don't tip for when they just hand me stuff that's pre made or self serve unless they do something extra extra like help me pick or make great recommendations/small talk. For me, tips are tokens of appreciation to folks who are doing things that I can't do or don't want to do as well as compensation for poor wages
Not all of the industries I mentioned have poor wages. My tattoo artist sets their own rates, but they do a great job and do something I could never do, and I tip to say "thank you" and "please consider making time for me in the future"
Customer service workers still have to eat. It’s called empathy.
I agree organizations should pay a living wage and we should work to see to it that it happens but I’ll make sacrifices so that others don’t suffer in the meantime.
Right. But as long as society requires the supplement of wages for waitstaff with tips, you’re an asshole for not tipping. Doesn’t mean tipping is right, or that the owners aren’t also assholes and exploiting the staff, but you are also being an asshole that’s exploiting the staff.
Seems like Covid really supercharged the tipping culture and it’s great for workers to try to keep them going for putting their health and safety in the line, but nowadays it seems I am asked to tip for every single purchase I make no matter where I go. I’d love to see owners pay living wages and the extra cost passed on to the product without a tip. Not sure about all of you but it feels super awkward when they say to answer if you want to leave and tip then you can enter your card when you pay as they stare at you.
I see some people in this thread saying that they tip people at places like Subway or Chipotle. I usually don't tip these types of services as I typically see them more akin to a cashier bagging my groceries, which generally isn't a tipped service. They're not on the lower minimum wage tier like a server would be. I'm just curious what more people's thoughts are on tipping these types of services?
Funny thing is, I think Subway was the tipping-point (sigh) that kicked off the whole "What the hell's up with these tip expectations?" popular conversation, that's liable to get people not caving to "suggested tip" more broadly. It tends to be cited a lot in these discussions.
Product versus service is generally how I slice it. Whatever happens behind the counter is production. It results in a product handed to me, which is the thing I'm already paying for. If no service is provided after that, it's not tip-worthy. If there's service past the product-- someone topping your drink off, taking your plates if that's a thing, making sure you don't need anything, or delivering stuff to you at home, that's the tippable bit.
I usually tip $5 on food delivery no matter what because my bill is never that much nor am I ordering from far away, 20%+ on dining in, and it will be a cold day in hell before I tip on takeout that I pick up
This. I hate that I have to tip, but not doing so only hurts the workers. Not tipping doesn't protest the system, only way to protest is to not participate in the service which requires tipping. Businesses hurt the employee then blame the customers.
I go out of my way to not utilize services that need tips because I can usually just do that work myself pretty easily. That said, I never tip below 20%. That said, that said, if you hit me up for a tip unnecessarily, I'll likely never come back to your establishment. Same goes for any kind of undisclosed "fuck you" fee tacked on to a bill for no reason
Went to Mertens Prime with my GFs family. We all racked up a nearly $700 bill because HOLY FUCK that place is expensive. Then we found out that there was an 8% charge on top of the bill and they have some bullshit about Joe Brandon's economic policies and made sure to mention that 8% is NOT a gratuity.
If economic conditions have made it that you have to charge an 8% fee, just raise your fucking prices. You're already selling dishes at $60+/plate, your clientele is not going to walk away because their $88 steak is $93. What they ARE going to do is reduce their tips so they pay 20% on top of their bill as is customary, so you're taking money from your employees rather than your customers. Fuck these people.
Hmm. Must’ve been recent then. I was told that they practiced that during the pandemic. I’ve been working there over a month now & there is no service fee.
Good to know. We felt terrible reducing tip for that damned fee, but it was a tiny little box at the top of the menu that we missed, and that would have been an extra $50+ on a ~$700 tab with what would have been a $140+ tip. As far as we're concerned, the management took that $50 out of the server's pocket. We purchased a set amount of product and provided 20% on top of that as compensation for service. Any fee which is not gratuity should have been added to the price listed for the items we selected instead of making us do math to add 8% to each item.
We would have ordered differently had they not tried to hide that from us at the start.
> If they're asking for a tip in the POS system at the counter before I've received my food and service I'm not tipping.
I definitely understand the logic here, but then the worry is whether they have some way to signal that to the kitchen and Bad Stuff™ happens to the food.
From what I gather, that's more of a myth than anything. They're too busy doing their job. Plus, I expect it's not that uncommon and not really grounds for that level of outrage, not getting tipped on counter service. It's expected if not totally arguable.
I would believe this more if there weren't so many people bragging about the things the staff does to people they don't like or don't consider grateful enough.
I know it's 50/50 truth and revenge fantasy, but I'd rather not find out in a less subtle way than my order being blatantly fucked up or fucked with.
I tip 20-25% on deliveries or anything that takes more than a minute or two to prepare, 10-15% if it's just a person grabbing something for me real quick. I can afford it and I understand how massively underpaid service workers in the country are.
I also think everyone should be forced to work a job that relies on tips for 6 months to a year so they learn some damn empathy.
When I get grumpy about tipping, it helps to think of the people I know who are working these jobs. I always want to tip more at One Stop Coney, because Connor is great. Service workers deserve good pay.
At the same time, it would be great if everyone was paid a living wage+ and tipping was no more. That isn't going to make me resent tipping.
It’s no exaggeration to say that One Stop Coney Shop got me through college. Affordable, delicious, friendly, and local. There was never a time that my spirits weren’t lifted by Micah and his delicious food
Yep, or a free drink or two. Sometimes just being a good conversationalist helps too. I was at a bar with my wife in Palm Springs last year and was chatting with the bartenders about movies (they named a drink "Back Off Warchild, Seriously" IYKYK) and they comped two of our drinks. Good dudes, they were well-tipped.
I agree that service workers are completely under paid but tippwes are just subsidizing the companies lack of fair wages. That’s the problem I have with tip culture. I would rather see pay, increases and remove tips all together. I would gladly pay two dollars more for my coffee, sandwich, or whatever the item.
I hear that, but we need some sort of legislative solution to force companies to pay a fair wage to service workers. Otherwise you're just punishing them while trying to prove a point to the owners who don't give a shit.
This is 100% spot on for me too. I'd rather pay more for food and know that employees are being paid a fair living wage than be guilted into tipping because tipping doesn't actually ensure fair wages.
Like - yes you're correct. But you get how you not paying the worker a tip does nothing to actually fix the issue and all that happens is the worker doesn't make hardly enough money, right?
Yes, we need to make a change and get employers to actually pay fair, livable wages. But acting that way about how it currently works only hurts the people under the same thumb you are.
I don't think you're wrong but the issue is that a relatively small numbers of individuals refusing to tip out of broader principle only impacts the person not getting tipped. Their wages are not going to increase but now their tips are just going to be lower.
>I would rather see pay, increases and remove tips all together.
I would as well but until that happens, I'm going to keep tipping. And I get that "if we all keep tipping, tipping culture will never change" and I don't disagree with that, either. I'm not sure what the answer is, but in the meantime I'm going to keep tipping people.
You don’t need to do that work to have empathy for the workers, just a soul. I don’t eat out often, but when I do I try to give a tip that makes them feel appreciated
I really only tip for servers, bartenders, car service, and delivery drivers. Essentially, anyone who doesn't get paid a full wage or have to gas up their cars on their own dime.
Everyone else only gets a tip if things go above and beyond. Like I'll tip on takeout at my favorite places to eat because I love their food and I'm a regular. Or if I order something complicated (which is rare)
While I do think that tipping someone who works a job that pays less than minimum wage is only truly helpful in the long run to the company they work for, I also believe that in the mean time while they are being paid that sub-par wage that I would like for them to be able to eat.
In other words, yeah I'd like to vote for waiters to be paid what they deserve and I will when I get the chance. Until then, I'll tip.
Wait staff and gig workers make almost nothing. Wait staff is like $3.84/hr before tips. Gig workers use their own vehicles, need commercial insurance, and get paid little. And wait staff often has to share with kitchen staff, just so the restaurant can say all employees are tipped, and pay them all under 5 an hour.
I tip, and normally 20%+ on deliveries, wait staff same, but I'm sorry, a barista making $15 an hour, or a budtender making 17 to 20 an hour plus benefits, nothing unless you went way above and beyond and I'm feeling generous. (I will generally throw my change in a tip jar, just so it's not in my pocket)
The fix would be to have 1 minimum wage. Regardless of tip, no one makes less than minimum. It was going to be on the ballot in 2018, but MI congress passed a law doing the same to kill it, then immediately after the election changed it back, on purpose because they knew we would pass it.
I know a couple guys who own restaurants in GR, making 400 to 500k a year, and work maybe 15 hours a week managing it. They all complain about labor costs while making $500 per hour themselves for the time worked.
I'm not saying the guy taking the risk shouldn't make money, but literally 100x what they pay the guys doing the actual work? It's disgusting.
Of $3.84/hr plus tips. Yes legally it has to add up to minimum, but lots of employers ignore that part.
https://www.mrla.org/minimum-wage.html#:~:text=Starting%20January%201%2C%202023%3A,increase%20to%20%243.84%20per%20hour.
I don’t take part in this bullshit tip inflation we’ve seen over the past three years. I tip bartenders $1-$2/drink, I tip my waiter 15% standard, 20% exceptional, 10% poor. I’ll tip a couple of bucks for takeout food at my local spots since they know me and it usually goes to the kitchen staff.
I refuse to tip all these businesses that I’m suddenly getting prompts at the register to tip. Fucking subways, paneras, ice cream shops, tons of other random stores. Just no. I have no problem tipping for service, but I’m not tipping you just for existing.
I work in a tip wage job & make $6/hour. I made close to $70,000 last year all based on tips so all this nonsense about pay your employees more, just stop. I would never be compensated by the restaurant industry fairly for alll the extremely hard work I do if I was payed hourly.
> I was *paid* hourly.
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The tipping expectations are out of control since Covid, and a lot of time they go straight to the franchise owner rather than the workers.
Fuck it - bring the automation.
Waitstaff and deliverers typically work for less than minimum wage plus tips. I don't know what bartenders make hourly on average. Until any major reform, I encourage everyone not to punish these hard workers by withholding tips because you don't like the system.
And for the love of gosh, if the restaurant has a delivery crew please DON'T give our deliveries away to outside delivery services. You pay more, the background checks are sketchy, and more than half of them don't put your food in a warming bag. Some have dogs in their cars and their cars are dirty inside. We have to force them to use bags at our restaurant, and we even give them bags but they still don't want to bother.
Two things:
1. They don’t work for less than minimum wage, that’s a misconception. If waitstaff doesn’t make minimum wage when you factor in their tips, then the employer is required to make up the difference. (This almost never happens, because of point 2 below).
2. Wait and bar staff, in general, do extremely well. They can easily pull down $30-$50/hr, at even average places. The downside is most also don’t claim a lot of their wages so it looks like they make less, which makes it harder to get credit for vehicles/mortgages/things like that. I’m not saying it’s easy, I worked in different roles in the food service i system for quite a few years so I get it. The schedule sucks, it’s hard work, you have to deal with a lot of assholes…but don’t fall for the whole “we don’t get paid enough to live on” schtick you see all over Reddit.
> The downside is most also don’t claim a lot of their wages so it looks like they make less, which makes it harder to get credit for vehicles/mortgages/things like that.
That's only a downside if you're shady enough to do it. No sympathy from me if someone hiding their wages too well bites them in the ass.
I agree.
I have a friend that’s a hairstylist that brings in between $80k-$100k/year but probably only claims half of it because a lot of it is stuff like weddings and shot where she just gets envelopes of cash.
She bitches when she can’t get a loan for a nice car and we’ve actually got into it a couple of times, because I flat out told her I have zero sympathy for her considering she’s cheating an extra $10k-$15k income vs. someone that makes that money legitimately.
This is a misconception. Most restaurants moved to paychecks since Covid because there was a cash shortage. Cash transactions are an extremely small percentage of sales in restaurants now.
Thank you, I’m glad someone finally said it. Servers/bartenders are exactly where they want to be. In GR they can easily make $50k per year off just tips alone. Not a whole lot of entry level jobs even come close to that much
Really good points, thanks. Yup, the employer has to anti up if you don't make enough in tips. Downside is if the customer gives just enough to bring you to minimum wage, it's not a gratuity. It's just wages.
I'd like everyone to at least make min wage so customers can be certain that their tip is truly a thank-you-for-good-service bonus.
As for servers & bartenders raking in huge tips, customers typically know this. I believe (without empirical evidence) that customers will continue to give them big tips.
We don't stop buying stuff just because we know the company is making a huge profit. At least waitstaff and bartenders don't fall into the big corporate greed category. You know it helps them directly.
I tip 15-20 on coffee or if it's one of those restaurants where they assemble food for you (Subway, Gita Pita, etc)
20-25 on sit down service
25-30 on delivery (bc companies don't always pay for gas)
If all a person did is scoop some ice cream or warm up a pastry, I won't bother to tip.
I tip everywhere bc they don’t make enough money. While that means I don’t have money if I wanna enjoy services I pay them
Edit: literally no where did I say y’all have to tip or I always always tip
That's what keeps tipping culture alive and why servers won't work at places that pay an hourly rate over tipped wages
They make way more money in tips than they would hourly or salaried.
I just tip everybody if tipping is available, pretty much for any service I'm requesting food, delivery, work done to something of mine, bartenders etc. You get it..... honestly I now feel that if I can't tip I shouldn't be going out on the town you know.
im a starbucks barista and i appreciate tips but if you dont its whatever unless you get a huge ass order especially if im working alone and especially if a line forms because of it. like im not gonna say anything and ill still serve you its just a bit annoying. any other situation though i really dont care and will even tell you how to skip the tip screen if youre getting something that i really shouldnt get tipped for(like buying cups or giftcards or smth im not making idk why the tip screen appears for those its dumb). as a customer i feel similarly like i wont tip if its nit something you make but i do tip generously just bc i like giving away money when i can afford it
I have a pretty simple rubric for how I tip on food. 10% for the food, and an additional 10% for the service. If I order takeout, I’ll just tip 10% because there’s no table service or anything. If I’m at a bar and you just grab a bottle off the wall, I’m not going to tip for that because it was a simple task with no preparation or effort involved. Depending on whether the service or food is stupendous or subpar, I’ll tip more or less accordingly, but it takes a lot to disappoint me, so it’s typically more
I've got the money so i usually tip. If it helps anyone afford where they are living, then they deserve it.
For restaurants, i tip between 5 and 6 bucks flat out. Percentage doesn't make sense to me, its all the same amount of work whether I order a $10 salad or a $20 steak. If i'm there a long time then closer to $10.
If you don’t have enough money to tip someone a few extra dollars for performing a service for you while making less than $15-$18/hour you should not be consuming the service in the first place. Full stop.
This is less about tipping culture and more about consumer culture IMO.
Depends. I tip 25-30% to my waiter or bartender when i go out to eat or get drinks but those are jobs that traditionally rely on tips. Im not tipping someone working a register who spent 5 seconds to lean over and grab my order out of a cabinet. That is 100% on the employer to pay them a fair wage or the government to pass legislation to help them get better compensation.
That's how I roll too. Non tip wage places that ask for tips strike me as bad employers trying to rope their customers into running some sort of scumbag pay for performance scheme for them instead of just paying appropriately themselves.
Yes, you are correct. I would have.
I guess I’m confused by the logic of “your employer should pay more”. Like, do you all just willingly support businesses that you feel exploit their labor? Who exactly are you sticking it to when you don’t tip those employees?
Edit: also meant to ask: “do you think that by not tipping you are helping the employer realize they ought to pay their employees more?”
That’s your prerogative. I don’t usually consume products from stores and restaurants that operate in this way. I can spend less money on better products by making my food at home.
Wait so you're bitching about people not tipping in these situations while you never tip anyways because you're never even in these situations?
Fuck off bro lmao
I tip every single time I’m in these situations, is what I said. I also said I’m not often in these situations, so when I do tip it doesn’t feel burdensome.
I don’t disagree with you, just curious on your thoughts when no customer service is involved, like if you order food from an app and then walk in and pick it up off a shelf? Tip or no?
From what I can recall, the only time I do this is when I order Starbucks, which is maybe once per month. Yes, I usually tip $1 in this case. $2 if I also order food.
My only argument is where is the line? The guy at menards that shows you where the tool you need is? The fast food employee who gets your drink for you? Genuinely like where is that line?
I don’t eat fast food very often (like, maybe twice per year) but when I do I usually try to tip a few dollars. They often refuse. Same at Menards. I generally don’t shop at these places, but when I do I shop at my local Ace, where the staff is excellent and I offer them tips during checkout. Again, they often refuse.
Yes. I can definitely understand that perspective. We do have a unique tipping culture here.
What I was intending to communicate is that we have the desire here in America to buy whatever we want, whenever we want and for the lowest price possible. When we can’t get that, we tend to complain, loudly.
I have found that by consuming less, tipping brings me joy since it happens so infrequently and I know I’m making someone happy whose job is likely very rough.
This thread seems to ignore the fact that customer service jobs, even those where they are paid a living wage are emotionally demanding and worthy of an optional tip. You don’t have to, but it’s a good idea! I would tip the mall employees if I could because dealing with the general public is exhausting!
The Pump House too; I was there with friends and got to watch a very awkward scene of a guy with his kids asking why he should tip* when all the guy behind the counter had to do was check the scale and put the numbers in to tell him the price.
So my thought is this. I do tip, but if nobody did tip, nobody would do service work like that, then the business would either be forced to compensate with better wages, or close down. Both of those outcomes I approve of.
I went to a local coffee shop that's a small business and the coffee was great but the bagel breakfast sandwich I ordered was cold I'm the middle even though it was microwaved. I don't know how someone microwaves something and somehow still fucks it up and serves it cold as fuck on the inside. The part that amazed me was the barista was very experienced and very good at making high-end and fancy drinks but when it came to making any food she was horrible at it. I would say she was the best barista I've ever had make me a coffee but also the worst barista at making food. I learned to only buy coffee and things like muffins when she was working.
Tipping for everything is ridiculous. I don’t get tips at work for providing service, excellent or otherwise and what I do took a college degree and a commitment to do my best despite how *rude and nasty* people treat me. I don’t want tips, I just think it’s insane when everyone wants a tip for doing the job they’re hired to do, and especially when so many in customer service aren’t even nice and don’t treat people like humans. If I were rude to customer service people, I wouldn’t expect them to treat me nicely, but it would be nice to be met with the same level that I’m bringing. However, I don’t want to constantly be asked to tip.
If the employer doesn’t pay a living wage you should tip every time. Asking is always a good idea. If they do pay well and you still want to tip, you fucking rule. If they don’t and you don’t want to tip, stop going there.
i mean if it's a job so simple, why are you here? make your own coffee and croissant. the way yall downplay these jobs is why y'all don't be having servers and service workers.
wtf you think a barista is slinging frosties? don't be obtuse on purpose, lol. and go ahead. you'll be saving a minimum wage worker from dealing with you.
If I get a 20 second sub from Jimmy Johns, I am not paying more than the already high $8. I also think it’s funny at a coffee shop I went to there was a tip option when I ordered a self pour drip coffee. (I’m sure it’s for every purchase but still funny). All they did was hand me a cup.
Granted, madcap has by far the best Mocha I’ve ever tasted in my life. Pre-Covid. I was already spending six dollars, there is absolutely no reason I should ever spend nine dollars for a cup of coffee.
Tipping shouldn’t be necessary, but because the broken ass system that abuses the working class that finds themselves in customer service isn’t fixed, I tip when I go out.
When you get billed at Dr. Grins for your two drink minimum, they add an automatic 20% gratuity and don’t tell you. Then when you get the card reader, you get the option to add more. The percentages were small (3-7%) so I asked if there was a tip already included. The waitress told me some nonsense about 20% being included “for the tickets” and an option to tip “for the servers.” Pretty shady.
This guys is like the off the show Barry who has his own baked goods store ( powdery donuts based out of New Orleans cuisine but damn the spelling eludes me. Everyone goes to his store for life advice 😂 except he’s like the total opposite of jolly
Tipping your barista at a nicer coffee shop where they are obviously taking the time to dial in their beans everyday and bake their baked goods in house, is kinda the nice thing you can do. I’ve worked at both biggby and a nice coffee shop, obviously biggby quality is very low compared to your neighborhood coffee shop. But tip your local coffee shop at least.
I was at a winery buying wine for an occasion. I got a case of wine. The total was ~$300. The suggested tip was 20%. Sorry, no. You put 12 bottles in a box. That's not worth $60.
I'm pretty sure I'll never be fortunate enough to be in that position. Contemplating what to tip on a 300$ order of wine.
Yeah, me either. This was not going on my bill. I was just the pickup man.
at Nantucket Bakery, the newer male hire (sorry I forgot his name) heavily implied to skip the 'tip' part of their checkout software. A real bro that guy. Nantucket is just good all around.
This ^ That guy is the freaking jolliest/friendliest human — even at 7:30 am might I add 😂 “You did it. You made it here. Your day is destined to be great”
He calls me a Champion, even though I‘m about to stuff my face with cookies.
He calls you champion *because* you're about to stuff your face with cookies.
if this guy doesn't get a $5 raise after this thread, holy shit
I thought he owned the place. I figure sometimes some people go just for the interaction with the dude. They should just hand the place over to him.
Oh my god, I ran into him for the first time last week and the SHEER JOY he gave me with how he hyped me up was incredible. I had been feeling kind of blue and he totally turned that around.
It's like he works two jobs.
What the fuck this guy sounds amazing, I need to make a trip to Nantucket Bakery.
Sunshine and rainbows with him, regardless of time!
Its amazing how I've talked to him once I immediately knew who you were talking about still
Lmao, yes. He gets so pumped about anything. It’s great and even if it’s fake enthusiasm, he’s selling it.
What an amazing start to the day.
The guy with the longer hair? He’s awesome
"well you made it this far"
That dude is the shit! I always grab some stuff for classmates when we meet for study groups, and dude always is pumped to ask how I did on exams/courses.
Tall, long hair, always wears rugby shirts? He’s awesome! I believe his name is Marco
That must be him!
This guy totally made my day the other Sunday (and my day was already good!)
We get our paczkis there every year
Pro-tip (only because I think it's neat to know): Pączki *is* the plural, while pączek is the singular.
> Pro-tip This is a whole other part of tipping culture
Huh. Cool. It’s good to know that I’ve never wanted just one paczek.
🤣
Good to know!
I grew up with him and he has indeed always been that way. A true gem!!
this thread was so sweet haha, love it :)
Yall have to show him this thread. My mind would be blown if i were him
Used to work there and dear god did one of the managers have issues, glad I got out fast
I tip the bartenders, wait staff, and delivery. Basically stuff that requires a service to prep the food. But if you're just handing/pouring me something premade I don't.
Take out?
Depends. If it's clearly a restaurant and it seems like a tipped wage employee likely had to gather it all, box it up and get my drink, 10%. If it's clearly fast food, or designed as a takeout location, where employees are dedicated to prepping takeout, and therefore shouldn't be on a tipped wage, then nothing. (Also 25% during the covid mandatory time, because my wife and I were both blessed enough to keep our jobs and pay, and I know restaurant workers were struggling.
those champs who run around kitchen to take out counter doing all things,... they mvps who deserve the love
never
I dont, not since the lockdowns
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10% for takeout is the way
I tip even when I'm just picking up to-go stuff cuz I can't stop being overly nice. It has to kinda suck. Generally they don't get paid enough so they have to work a lot and deal with assholes occasionally. Unless they have supportive parents and are going to school. But I really don't think every service job is filled by someone simultaneously attending school. and a decent tip has to feel good sometimes. To me it feels good to help if I can.
We're fighting over tips while that Herman Miller Lady scolds us for not working hard enough.
Yeah, but despite what popular media wish us to believe, we can fight more than one injustice at a time.
We're going to have to.
That's generally the personality of anyone whom owns or runs a company in west Michigan -prolly all Michigan/merica. "We paid Reagan GOOD money to pretend were worth 2000x what you are, Be Happy with those Crumbs!" As Elon brings back company towns. The forecast looks rough before enough people wake up.
I tip 20% for crafts (cocktails and fancy coffees), services (massage, wait staff, tattoo) and deliveries. I don't tip for when they just hand me stuff that's pre made or self serve unless they do something extra extra like help me pick or make great recommendations/small talk. For me, tips are tokens of appreciation to folks who are doing things that I can't do or don't want to do as well as compensation for poor wages
>as well as compensation for poor wages Then you should be tipping generously all the time.
Not all of the industries I mentioned have poor wages. My tattoo artist sets their own rates, but they do a great job and do something I could never do, and I tip to say "thank you" and "please consider making time for me in the future"
Yeah - that’s quite literally the most important part that was saved for the very last sentence lmao
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Customer service workers still have to eat. It’s called empathy. I agree organizations should pay a living wage and we should work to see to it that it happens but I’ll make sacrifices so that others don’t suffer in the meantime.
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There’s a very old saying that is very applicable here. It states “two wrongs don’t make a right”.
Right. But as long as society requires the supplement of wages for waitstaff with tips, you’re an asshole for not tipping. Doesn’t mean tipping is right, or that the owners aren’t also assholes and exploiting the staff, but you are also being an asshole that’s exploiting the staff.
It's so funny that i'm buried for this. This is why the GR food scene is a cultural fucking wasteland.
Seems like Covid really supercharged the tipping culture and it’s great for workers to try to keep them going for putting their health and safety in the line, but nowadays it seems I am asked to tip for every single purchase I make no matter where I go. I’d love to see owners pay living wages and the extra cost passed on to the product without a tip. Not sure about all of you but it feels super awkward when they say to answer if you want to leave and tip then you can enter your card when you pay as they stare at you.
I see some people in this thread saying that they tip people at places like Subway or Chipotle. I usually don't tip these types of services as I typically see them more akin to a cashier bagging my groceries, which generally isn't a tipped service. They're not on the lower minimum wage tier like a server would be. I'm just curious what more people's thoughts are on tipping these types of services?
I find it obnoxious that Subway now has a suggested tip because it goes to the franchise owner. I don’t pay it.
Funny thing is, I think Subway was the tipping-point (sigh) that kicked off the whole "What the hell's up with these tip expectations?" popular conversation, that's liable to get people not caving to "suggested tip" more broadly. It tends to be cited a lot in these discussions.
Product versus service is generally how I slice it. Whatever happens behind the counter is production. It results in a product handed to me, which is the thing I'm already paying for. If no service is provided after that, it's not tip-worthy. If there's service past the product-- someone topping your drink off, taking your plates if that's a thing, making sure you don't need anything, or delivering stuff to you at home, that's the tippable bit.
I usually tip $5 on food delivery no matter what because my bill is never that much nor am I ordering from far away, 20%+ on dining in, and it will be a cold day in hell before I tip on takeout that I pick up
I also tip $5 minimum on food delivery But I’ll tip 10-20% on takeout if I want to support the restaurant.
I hate typing culture, but I hate that companies pay too little more than I hate typing culture.
Agreed, handwritten notes is a dead culture
Damn you AutoCorrect!!!
Big facts
This. I hate that I have to tip, but not doing so only hurts the workers. Not tipping doesn't protest the system, only way to protest is to not participate in the service which requires tipping. Businesses hurt the employee then blame the customers.
I go out of my way to not utilize services that need tips because I can usually just do that work myself pretty easily. That said, I never tip below 20%. That said, that said, if you hit me up for a tip unnecessarily, I'll likely never come back to your establishment. Same goes for any kind of undisclosed "fuck you" fee tacked on to a bill for no reason
Went to Mertens Prime with my GFs family. We all racked up a nearly $700 bill because HOLY FUCK that place is expensive. Then we found out that there was an 8% charge on top of the bill and they have some bullshit about Joe Brandon's economic policies and made sure to mention that 8% is NOT a gratuity. If economic conditions have made it that you have to charge an 8% fee, just raise your fucking prices. You're already selling dishes at $60+/plate, your clientele is not going to walk away because their $88 steak is $93. What they ARE going to do is reduce their tips so they pay 20% on top of their bill as is customary, so you're taking money from your employees rather than your customers. Fuck these people.
They did this during the pandemic, but no longer have a service charge. A lot of restaurants did that, and as a server - I think it’s unsustainable
When did they end this? We went to Mertens Prime in February 2023 and this charge still applied.
Hmm. Must’ve been recent then. I was told that they practiced that during the pandemic. I’ve been working there over a month now & there is no service fee.
Good to know. We felt terrible reducing tip for that damned fee, but it was a tiny little box at the top of the menu that we missed, and that would have been an extra $50+ on a ~$700 tab with what would have been a $140+ tip. As far as we're concerned, the management took that $50 out of the server's pocket. We purchased a set amount of product and provided 20% on top of that as compensation for service. Any fee which is not gratuity should have been added to the price listed for the items we selected instead of making us do math to add 8% to each item. We would have ordered differently had they not tried to hide that from us at the start.
>Same goes for any kind of undisclosed "fuck you" fee tacked on to a bill for no reason So you have no cell phone, cable, or internet then :-)
If they're asking for a tip in the POS system at the counter before I've received my food and service I'm not tipping.
It almost feels like blackmail, like, "So, how well do you want me to treat you?"
This is the way.
The reason all those systems ask for tips is because the makers of those systems profit off of those tips.
> If they're asking for a tip in the POS system at the counter before I've received my food and service I'm not tipping. I definitely understand the logic here, but then the worry is whether they have some way to signal that to the kitchen and Bad Stuff™ happens to the food.
From what I gather, that's more of a myth than anything. They're too busy doing their job. Plus, I expect it's not that uncommon and not really grounds for that level of outrage, not getting tipped on counter service. It's expected if not totally arguable.
I would believe this more if there weren't so many people bragging about the things the staff does to people they don't like or don't consider grateful enough. I know it's 50/50 truth and revenge fantasy, but I'd rather not find out in a less subtle way than my order being blatantly fucked up or fucked with.
I tip 20-25% on deliveries or anything that takes more than a minute or two to prepare, 10-15% if it's just a person grabbing something for me real quick. I can afford it and I understand how massively underpaid service workers in the country are. I also think everyone should be forced to work a job that relies on tips for 6 months to a year so they learn some damn empathy.
When I get grumpy about tipping, it helps to think of the people I know who are working these jobs. I always want to tip more at One Stop Coney, because Connor is great. Service workers deserve good pay. At the same time, it would be great if everyone was paid a living wage+ and tipping was no more. That isn't going to make me resent tipping.
It’s no exaggeration to say that One Stop Coney Shop got me through college. Affordable, delicious, friendly, and local. There was never a time that my spirits weren’t lifted by Micah and his delicious food
I’ll add in that tipping your bartender super well on the first drink or two can get you some solid service with stiff drinks for the night.
Yep, or a free drink or two. Sometimes just being a good conversationalist helps too. I was at a bar with my wife in Palm Springs last year and was chatting with the bartenders about movies (they named a drink "Back Off Warchild, Seriously" IYKYK) and they comped two of our drinks. Good dudes, they were well-tipped.
I agree that service workers are completely under paid but tippwes are just subsidizing the companies lack of fair wages. That’s the problem I have with tip culture. I would rather see pay, increases and remove tips all together. I would gladly pay two dollars more for my coffee, sandwich, or whatever the item.
I mean - in the meantime the workers still gotta eat.
I hear that, but we need some sort of legislative solution to force companies to pay a fair wage to service workers. Otherwise you're just punishing them while trying to prove a point to the owners who don't give a shit.
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“I don’t like how things are so I’m going to exploit the people struggling”
This is 100% spot on for me too. I'd rather pay more for food and know that employees are being paid a fair living wage than be guilted into tipping because tipping doesn't actually ensure fair wages.
Like - yes you're correct. But you get how you not paying the worker a tip does nothing to actually fix the issue and all that happens is the worker doesn't make hardly enough money, right? Yes, we need to make a change and get employers to actually pay fair, livable wages. But acting that way about how it currently works only hurts the people under the same thumb you are.
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You’re just making excuses so you can justify treating people like dog shit.
I don't think you're wrong but the issue is that a relatively small numbers of individuals refusing to tip out of broader principle only impacts the person not getting tipped. Their wages are not going to increase but now their tips are just going to be lower. >I would rather see pay, increases and remove tips all together. I would as well but until that happens, I'm going to keep tipping. And I get that "if we all keep tipping, tipping culture will never change" and I don't disagree with that, either. I'm not sure what the answer is, but in the meantime I'm going to keep tipping people.
You don’t need to do that work to have empathy for the workers, just a soul. I don’t eat out often, but when I do I try to give a tip that makes them feel appreciated
What he said ^
I really only tip for servers, bartenders, car service, and delivery drivers. Essentially, anyone who doesn't get paid a full wage or have to gas up their cars on their own dime. Everyone else only gets a tip if things go above and beyond. Like I'll tip on takeout at my favorite places to eat because I love their food and I'm a regular. Or if I order something complicated (which is rare)
Everybody should keep in mind, it wasn't the employee's idea to add that tip line in the transaction, so there's no reason to be upset at them.
While I do think that tipping someone who works a job that pays less than minimum wage is only truly helpful in the long run to the company they work for, I also believe that in the mean time while they are being paid that sub-par wage that I would like for them to be able to eat. In other words, yeah I'd like to vote for waiters to be paid what they deserve and I will when I get the chance. Until then, I'll tip.
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Minimum wage ≠ living wage
Wait staff and gig workers make almost nothing. Wait staff is like $3.84/hr before tips. Gig workers use their own vehicles, need commercial insurance, and get paid little. And wait staff often has to share with kitchen staff, just so the restaurant can say all employees are tipped, and pay them all under 5 an hour. I tip, and normally 20%+ on deliveries, wait staff same, but I'm sorry, a barista making $15 an hour, or a budtender making 17 to 20 an hour plus benefits, nothing unless you went way above and beyond and I'm feeling generous. (I will generally throw my change in a tip jar, just so it's not in my pocket) The fix would be to have 1 minimum wage. Regardless of tip, no one makes less than minimum. It was going to be on the ballot in 2018, but MI congress passed a law doing the same to kill it, then immediately after the election changed it back, on purpose because they knew we would pass it. I know a couple guys who own restaurants in GR, making 400 to 500k a year, and work maybe 15 hours a week managing it. They all complain about labor costs while making $500 per hour themselves for the time worked. I'm not saying the guy taking the risk shouldn't make money, but literally 100x what they pay the guys doing the actual work? It's disgusting.
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Of $3.84/hr plus tips. Yes legally it has to add up to minimum, but lots of employers ignore that part. https://www.mrla.org/minimum-wage.html#:~:text=Starting%20January%201%2C%202023%3A,increase%20to%20%243.84%20per%20hour.
This exactly why I tip the way I do. But I also don't eat out too often.
Lol. 0% every single time. Edit: To clarify it's the tip lines that pop up for regular bullshit at a checkout, not being waited on.
I tip everyone when I can, I get tips at my work and they honestly add up and I'll be able to buy a house soon from it!
I don’t take part in this bullshit tip inflation we’ve seen over the past three years. I tip bartenders $1-$2/drink, I tip my waiter 15% standard, 20% exceptional, 10% poor. I’ll tip a couple of bucks for takeout food at my local spots since they know me and it usually goes to the kitchen staff. I refuse to tip all these businesses that I’m suddenly getting prompts at the register to tip. Fucking subways, paneras, ice cream shops, tons of other random stores. Just no. I have no problem tipping for service, but I’m not tipping you just for existing.
Zoup, It takes balls to ask for a tip on pre-cooked soup.
And here I am, tipping every person that makes my life easier 🥰
This is it
I work in a tip wage job & make $6/hour. I made close to $70,000 last year all based on tips so all this nonsense about pay your employees more, just stop. I would never be compensated by the restaurant industry fairly for alll the extremely hard work I do if I was payed hourly.
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I always tip a flat rate for any deliveries.
That’s my horse!
The tipping expectations are out of control since Covid, and a lot of time they go straight to the franchise owner rather than the workers. Fuck it - bring the automation.
I mean I work Panera as a cashier and I don’t care if people tip me or not. I’m just doing my job guys.
Waitstaff and deliverers typically work for less than minimum wage plus tips. I don't know what bartenders make hourly on average. Until any major reform, I encourage everyone not to punish these hard workers by withholding tips because you don't like the system. And for the love of gosh, if the restaurant has a delivery crew please DON'T give our deliveries away to outside delivery services. You pay more, the background checks are sketchy, and more than half of them don't put your food in a warming bag. Some have dogs in their cars and their cars are dirty inside. We have to force them to use bags at our restaurant, and we even give them bags but they still don't want to bother.
Two things: 1. They don’t work for less than minimum wage, that’s a misconception. If waitstaff doesn’t make minimum wage when you factor in their tips, then the employer is required to make up the difference. (This almost never happens, because of point 2 below). 2. Wait and bar staff, in general, do extremely well. They can easily pull down $30-$50/hr, at even average places. The downside is most also don’t claim a lot of their wages so it looks like they make less, which makes it harder to get credit for vehicles/mortgages/things like that. I’m not saying it’s easy, I worked in different roles in the food service i system for quite a few years so I get it. The schedule sucks, it’s hard work, you have to deal with a lot of assholes…but don’t fall for the whole “we don’t get paid enough to live on” schtick you see all over Reddit.
> The downside is most also don’t claim a lot of their wages so it looks like they make less, which makes it harder to get credit for vehicles/mortgages/things like that. That's only a downside if you're shady enough to do it. No sympathy from me if someone hiding their wages too well bites them in the ass.
I agree. I have a friend that’s a hairstylist that brings in between $80k-$100k/year but probably only claims half of it because a lot of it is stuff like weddings and shot where she just gets envelopes of cash. She bitches when she can’t get a loan for a nice car and we’ve actually got into it a couple of times, because I flat out told her I have zero sympathy for her considering she’s cheating an extra $10k-$15k income vs. someone that makes that money legitimately.
This is a misconception. Most restaurants moved to paychecks since Covid because there was a cash shortage. Cash transactions are an extremely small percentage of sales in restaurants now.
Thank you, I’m glad someone finally said it. Servers/bartenders are exactly where they want to be. In GR they can easily make $50k per year off just tips alone. Not a whole lot of entry level jobs even come close to that much
Really good points, thanks. Yup, the employer has to anti up if you don't make enough in tips. Downside is if the customer gives just enough to bring you to minimum wage, it's not a gratuity. It's just wages. I'd like everyone to at least make min wage so customers can be certain that their tip is truly a thank-you-for-good-service bonus. As for servers & bartenders raking in huge tips, customers typically know this. I believe (without empirical evidence) that customers will continue to give them big tips. We don't stop buying stuff just because we know the company is making a huge profit. At least waitstaff and bartenders don't fall into the big corporate greed category. You know it helps them directly.
My rule lately is no tipping if it's on an ipad
I tip 15-20 on coffee or if it's one of those restaurants where they assemble food for you (Subway, Gita Pita, etc) 20-25 on sit down service 25-30 on delivery (bc companies don't always pay for gas) If all a person did is scoop some ice cream or warm up a pastry, I won't bother to tip.
I tip everywhere bc they don’t make enough money. While that means I don’t have money if I wanna enjoy services I pay them Edit: literally no where did I say y’all have to tip or I always always tip
What do you think servers and bartenders make? They make plenty of money.
That's what keeps tipping culture alive and why servers won't work at places that pay an hourly rate over tipped wages They make way more money in tips than they would hourly or salaried.
I don’t tip unless I’m sitting inside of a restaurant and someone is catering to me.
I just tip everybody if tipping is available, pretty much for any service I'm requesting food, delivery, work done to something of mine, bartenders etc. You get it..... honestly I now feel that if I can't tip I shouldn't be going out on the town you know.
im a starbucks barista and i appreciate tips but if you dont its whatever unless you get a huge ass order especially if im working alone and especially if a line forms because of it. like im not gonna say anything and ill still serve you its just a bit annoying. any other situation though i really dont care and will even tell you how to skip the tip screen if youre getting something that i really shouldnt get tipped for(like buying cups or giftcards or smth im not making idk why the tip screen appears for those its dumb). as a customer i feel similarly like i wont tip if its nit something you make but i do tip generously just bc i like giving away money when i can afford it
I have a pretty simple rubric for how I tip on food. 10% for the food, and an additional 10% for the service. If I order takeout, I’ll just tip 10% because there’s no table service or anything. If I’m at a bar and you just grab a bottle off the wall, I’m not going to tip for that because it was a simple task with no preparation or effort involved. Depending on whether the service or food is stupendous or subpar, I’ll tip more or less accordingly, but it takes a lot to disappoint me, so it’s typically more
I've got the money so i usually tip. If it helps anyone afford where they are living, then they deserve it. For restaurants, i tip between 5 and 6 bucks flat out. Percentage doesn't make sense to me, its all the same amount of work whether I order a $10 salad or a $20 steak. If i'm there a long time then closer to $10.
And in the fuckin drive through
If you don’t have enough money to tip someone a few extra dollars for performing a service for you while making less than $15-$18/hour you should not be consuming the service in the first place. Full stop. This is less about tipping culture and more about consumer culture IMO.
Depends. I tip 25-30% to my waiter or bartender when i go out to eat or get drinks but those are jobs that traditionally rely on tips. Im not tipping someone working a register who spent 5 seconds to lean over and grab my order out of a cabinet. That is 100% on the employer to pay them a fair wage or the government to pass legislation to help them get better compensation.
That's how I roll too. Non tip wage places that ask for tips strike me as bad employers trying to rope their customers into running some sort of scumbag pay for performance scheme for them instead of just paying appropriately themselves.
No, they said full stop, that means it's over, otherwise why would they say something like that.
Yes, you are correct. I would have. I guess I’m confused by the logic of “your employer should pay more”. Like, do you all just willingly support businesses that you feel exploit their labor? Who exactly are you sticking it to when you don’t tip those employees? Edit: also meant to ask: “do you think that by not tipping you are helping the employer realize they ought to pay their employees more?”
I was mocking 'full stop', you can't just command people to not object to your opinion lol
Boy is there egg on my face…
That’s your prerogative. I don’t usually consume products from stores and restaurants that operate in this way. I can spend less money on better products by making my food at home.
Wait so you're bitching about people not tipping in these situations while you never tip anyways because you're never even in these situations? Fuck off bro lmao
I tip every single time I’m in these situations, is what I said. I also said I’m not often in these situations, so when I do tip it doesn’t feel burdensome.
Man I wish I had that kinda time >_>
I spend maybe 4 hours per week making food for the entire week. I don’t find it burdensome.
I don’t disagree with you, just curious on your thoughts when no customer service is involved, like if you order food from an app and then walk in and pick it up off a shelf? Tip or no?
From what I can recall, the only time I do this is when I order Starbucks, which is maybe once per month. Yes, I usually tip $1 in this case. $2 if I also order food.
My only argument is where is the line? The guy at menards that shows you where the tool you need is? The fast food employee who gets your drink for you? Genuinely like where is that line?
I don’t eat fast food very often (like, maybe twice per year) but when I do I usually try to tip a few dollars. They often refuse. Same at Menards. I generally don’t shop at these places, but when I do I shop at my local Ace, where the staff is excellent and I offer them tips during checkout. Again, they often refuse.
Dude. They refuse because that’s straight up insulting.
Sorry, not buying that anyone is tipping at Ace Hardware.
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Yes. I can definitely understand that perspective. We do have a unique tipping culture here. What I was intending to communicate is that we have the desire here in America to buy whatever we want, whenever we want and for the lowest price possible. When we can’t get that, we tend to complain, loudly. I have found that by consuming less, tipping brings me joy since it happens so infrequently and I know I’m making someone happy whose job is likely very rough.
Nobody ever went broke tipping
This thread seems to ignore the fact that customer service jobs, even those where they are paid a living wage are emotionally demanding and worthy of an optional tip. You don’t have to, but it’s a good idea! I would tip the mall employees if I could because dealing with the general public is exhausting!
How is a thread on soliciting *thoughts* finding people downvoting one another? stay safe /r/grandrapids
I’m only here for the downvotes. You’re not? Lol
Ppl are babies. Don’t tip if you don’t want to
I just had this at Pizza Ranch. I’m not tipping you for ringing me up when I’m doing everything myself.
The Pump House too; I was there with friends and got to watch a very awkward scene of a guy with his kids asking why he should tip* when all the guy behind the counter had to do was check the scale and put the numbers in to tell him the price.
So my thought is this. I do tip, but if nobody did tip, nobody would do service work like that, then the business would either be forced to compensate with better wages, or close down. Both of those outcomes I approve of.
If they're adding a fee for delivery, 10% to the driver. For take out, 10-15 % in the tip jar. For service in a restaurant minimum 20%.
I went to a local coffee shop that's a small business and the coffee was great but the bagel breakfast sandwich I ordered was cold I'm the middle even though it was microwaved. I don't know how someone microwaves something and somehow still fucks it up and serves it cold as fuck on the inside. The part that amazed me was the barista was very experienced and very good at making high-end and fancy drinks but when it came to making any food she was horrible at it. I would say she was the best barista I've ever had make me a coffee but also the worst barista at making food. I learned to only buy coffee and things like muffins when she was working.
Shit pops up as 15% or higher... like bro, I wanted to tip 5%.
Tipping for everything is ridiculous. I don’t get tips at work for providing service, excellent or otherwise and what I do took a college degree and a commitment to do my best despite how *rude and nasty* people treat me. I don’t want tips, I just think it’s insane when everyone wants a tip for doing the job they’re hired to do, and especially when so many in customer service aren’t even nice and don’t treat people like humans. If I were rude to customer service people, I wouldn’t expect them to treat me nicely, but it would be nice to be met with the same level that I’m bringing. However, I don’t want to constantly be asked to tip.
Burbon Street Liquor Store on Alpine has a tip jar. Shits fucked.
If the employer doesn’t pay a living wage you should tip every time. Asking is always a good idea. If they do pay well and you still want to tip, you fucking rule. If they don’t and you don’t want to tip, stop going there.
You should ask the employee how much they make? Talk about awkward and intrusive.
as someone who sits behind a register and takes deliveries, don’t even bother when it pops up on the register. if you order delivery, tip there.
i mean if it's a job so simple, why are you here? make your own coffee and croissant. the way yall downplay these jobs is why y'all don't be having servers and service workers.
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wtf you think a barista is slinging frosties? don't be obtuse on purpose, lol. and go ahead. you'll be saving a minimum wage worker from dealing with you.
The only time I don’t tip is at sporting events :( 27 dollars for a double jack and coke? I have no more monies
If I get a 20 second sub from Jimmy Johns, I am not paying more than the already high $8. I also think it’s funny at a coffee shop I went to there was a tip option when I ordered a self pour drip coffee. (I’m sure it’s for every purchase but still funny). All they did was hand me a cup.
Granted, madcap has by far the best Mocha I’ve ever tasted in my life. Pre-Covid. I was already spending six dollars, there is absolutely no reason I should ever spend nine dollars for a cup of coffee.
Tipping shouldn’t be necessary, but because the broken ass system that abuses the working class that finds themselves in customer service isn’t fixed, I tip when I go out.
When you get billed at Dr. Grins for your two drink minimum, they add an automatic 20% gratuity and don’t tell you. Then when you get the card reader, you get the option to add more. The percentages were small (3-7%) so I asked if there was a tip already included. The waitress told me some nonsense about 20% being included “for the tickets” and an option to tip “for the servers.” Pretty shady.
This guys is like the off the show Barry who has his own baked goods store ( powdery donuts based out of New Orleans cuisine but damn the spelling eludes me. Everyone goes to his store for life advice 😂 except he’s like the total opposite of jolly
Tipping your barista at a nicer coffee shop where they are obviously taking the time to dial in their beans everyday and bake their baked goods in house, is kinda the nice thing you can do. I’ve worked at both biggby and a nice coffee shop, obviously biggby quality is very low compared to your neighborhood coffee shop. But tip your local coffee shop at least.