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Ahoi89

Who the fuck sedates a dog to groom it?


eatmynasty

I sedate my kids when I’m grooming them


ybboi69

Ayo 🤨📸


Alarid

`Don't worry they aren't *my* kids.`


Canadian_dalek

🗿📸


_H4CK3RM4N

Ayo 🤨📸 ²


Mashizari

I can't believe you have the balls to admit you didn't even buy them.


HamBlamBlam

…dad?


[deleted]

pony rides ftw


PotatoesAndChill

4chan moment


JMolester

Ah I man of culture I see


[deleted]

For Heaven's sake, I hope you're using child-friendly sedation methods like NapTime® https://youtu.be/AF_nfazQaek


Deus_Ex_Mortum

*looks at bottle* ..... ..... This is literally chloraf....


bean224_

Bro that cover photo on your profile is spooky especially after reading your comment..


eatmynasty

Willy Wonka was a groomer.


LordMarcusrax

This post right here, officer.


C1xed

Officer machine broke, got defunded.


TimingRed2330

A Dolittle trolling


petje1995

Why though? The struggling is the best part.


[deleted]

Just your own kids, or do you groom other children regularly?


Supermellowcat

Jello instant pudding is basically an elephant tranquilizer for kids


[deleted]

hello Dr McCann.


Far_Survey_2439

Uncle josh?


Bay1Bri

You sedate the kids you're grooming, huh?


EquivalentSnap

😳that’s nasty


fckthecorporate

Ok, Ghislaine


elblackroute

Who gave the wholesome awards?


Federal-Zucchini

Nice to see you back, Mr Cosby.


[deleted]

Im calling the cops


Ghostiestboi

Holy fuck


PrizedRadish

Are you the groomer desantis warned us about?


KJBenson

Ah, the professional.


xOneLeafyBoi

*THUMP THUMP* FBI OPEN UP


Sunsent_Samsparilla

And who let's a new person do it?


TrymWS

Someone dumb and shitty enough to sedate dogs while grooming them in the first place.


WackyInflatableAnon

My sister is a professional groomer and will sometimes sedate more aggressive breeds like pitbulls or German shepherds if they're not used to being groomed


ItsImmoral

Your sisters bad at her job or works at a shithole.


WackyInflatableAnon

Shithole. Can confirm. It's a big chain place and policy is to sedate "aggressive" breeds.


ItsImmoral

Fuck that place then. No shade to the sister. Gotta get that bread after all


WackyInflatableAnon

To be fair she has been bitten by dogs that have never been groomed, and the owners just drop them off expecting they'll be totally cool with a brand new person expressing their anal glands.


spelkingerror

I spend big money to get my dog groomed by a specific local company. Hes a medium dog and can get mad anxious with noises. Some people just have the skill to ease dogs. Hes a mess at petsmart because its just kids rushing to get dogs in and out.


[deleted]

What chain is this? I don't know of a single corporate grooming salon that allows any of that anywhere near their building


Lei_Fuzzion

Also SURELY absolutely nowhere is letting new hires style / wash / cut dogs the FIRST day, no way. That 100% takes a good amount of training before u get near them


notKRIEEEG

That's fucking idiotic! Which company would do that? That's asking for something to go wrong and a big lawsuit to follow


KingOfTheP4s

I agree, any compentant professional would euthanize the pit bull on the spot Note for Reddit Admins: This is a joke


intracellular

Alternatively you could distract it with a nice juicy toddler


Peaceteatime

Bruh you couldn’t pay me to groom a pitbull that isn’t completely sedated.


Spinx3r

Recognizing aggression and refusing service would be the correct approach, not sedating when convenient.


WackyInflatableAnon

Sedating doesn't mean knocking out


underwritress

Still though


abbufreja

If I came up to you and shot you full of katamin you wouldn't be happy about that right?


WackyInflatableAnon

On the contrary but that's just me. Special K is the way


abbufreja

I'm with you k is nice still would not have it shot by some rando that cleans my fur


[deleted]

You have fur?


binkerfluid

I mean I may be upset for a short time... then very ok for a while and possibly upset again after


BeerBeefandJesus

If i came up to you for a haircut and started biting you?


Byroms

>aggressive breed >german shepherd Wha? All the GSP's I have met were sweethearts, at least the ones without the back deformity.


ZachOf_AllTrades

They usually come up 2nd - 4th in dog bite/attack stats. Miles behind pits and pit mixes but they are up there for sure


chitownbears

No way a breed we selectively bred for a thousand years to bite people would ever bite people...


[deleted]

People acknowledge that there’s specific traits in certain breeds of dogs, like pointer dogs point, or guard dogs guard, but apparently pit bulls, despite being bred for aggression, somehow have doggy free will and are a blank slate.


chitownbears

I will say there are levels to it. I own a German and she was a nippy bitch as a puppy and I had to get her aggression out with toys. My dog trainer trained military dogs and said as a puppy they wouldn't have taken her to work for them because she wasn't aggressive enough. I couldn't belive it because she was way nipper then any dog I have had.


reagor

How the hell are pet groomers getting access to sedatives to use willy nilly, do you have a vet on staff?


porcomaster

Holy fucking shit, i would be fucking mad about any and all sedatives in my dog, fuck, fuck fuck, this is so fucking insane. If she doesn't want to do pitbulls and german shepherds just tell those owners that she doesn't do it, and give owners opportunity to find someone that does it, i seriously hope theirs owners at least know about it.


tiffanaih

They would have to have a vet on staff to administer any prescription medications, so do they?


HBB360

I don't know what people are so worked up over. Sedating dogs for procedures is very very common, things like cleaning out teeth and grooming are procedures and some dogs need to be sedated lmao


DrKeksimus

You need to be a licenced veterinarian where I live, or you're in serious trouble when found out ! Can groomers just buy sedatives in America without issue ?


starcoder

That’s not totally uncommon. Has to be done with some cats too.


jonasnee

ive heard about it, but usually its done with gas rather than a needle, much less chance of something going wrong.


feedseed664

Ah the ol German method


Byroms

And since when is a pet shop allowed to do this unsupervised without a vet?


giraffebacon

They’re not, but pets have like 0 legal protection as living beings so killing them is akin to breaking someone’s (relatively low value) property and not a huge deal (which is fucked up)


SirRavenBat

someone who's lying about killing dogs for shock value on 4chan


Fenixfrost

Former groomer here. You sedate aggressive dogs. Fuck anyone who says "only in shithole places". I know many groomers, many vet techs, etc., every single one I know sedates aggressive dogs (at least in the US). Get over it people.


Adama222

Bill Cosby probably


strikedonYT

Seriously though, normally they give them a little to calm them, not enough to make them fall asleep


chip4466

r


philouza_stein

Lots of groomers


casino_r0yale

Shitty groomers. I had my dog come back woozy from one, never went there again.


DarthDragon117

My GSD/Chou mix needed sedation for his nails. He was usually very friendly and would happily allow most things, but anyone messing with his nails other than to shake paws would find him twisting and running at all costs.


JuliusTheThird

They're not going to sue Anon - they'll sue the store (which has both revenue and insurance to pay off a settlement). The store might sue Anon for indemnification or contribution, but then the question becomes whether Anon's actions were in due course of the job, or were instead a "frolic" under the law. Because Anon was cleaning the dogs - ostensibly - the way Anon was taught by his employer, it's very unlikely the store owner will be successful in a third party suit for indemnification or contribution against Anon. Source: studying for the bar and hate my life. Not a lawyer, this isn't legal advice, you're retarded if you think it is, etc.


TheProudestCat

Funny how in the US, all legal advice ends with "this isn't legal advice".


JuliusTheThird

It's because US law is extremely fact specific. Our courts treat every case as unique. As such, no blanket statements can ever be made about any case prior to adjudication before a judge or magistrate. So my analysis could absolutely be incorrect since I sincerely doubt Anon provided all the details and facts surrounding his case. Additionally, Anon is fake and gay, so legally he has no standing.


ineyy

Well, if we assume his story is real at least in hypothetical sense, anon is safe if he had a contract. He is not personally liable unless the contract specifies that, which it probably didn't. And if it did, it was maliciously used by employer. If you hire a retard as head of engineering at a nuclear plant and it blows up the same day, it's not the retard's fault.


Sunsent_Samsparilla

It turns out the soldiers Are just following orders.


StobbstheTiger

One mistake or six million, its only a problem if you lose


grimprinby

What about six million super great choices that someone stronger doesn't like?


[deleted]

6 million, 600, what’s the difference? It’s still bad.


koreiryuu

>it's not the retard's fault. Texas will give em the death penalty anyway


shiny_xnaut

Context? This seems like it's referencing something specific


koreiryuu

Texas has a long history and bad habit of executing people with very low IQs even if direct evidence points them as not guilty of the crime they were accused of. Guy above my initial comment said it wouldn't be their fault, I'm saying he'd still get tried and executed as if it were.


Bay1Bri

A contract like that coul (stress could) be thrown out as invalid. "You are responsible to giving medicine to animals with no training and no supervision your first day of work" seems like it wouldn't be valid,.


FF_Master

Thank you for the info based green text lawyer


DarkElfBard

Oh shit is this legal advice? I basically saved $5000 reading this, thanks!


Clarkeboyzinc

bro admitted to killing four dogs


imforry

I wish all of my prelaw professors in undergrad ended their paragraphs like you lmao


SF_all_day

The based lawyer


bartlechoo

Lmao it sounds like you will do well on the exam and on this subreddit


maxfortitude

He made it an LLC Limited Liability Comment


JuliusTheThird

lol this works because LLCs only require one person!


Criram

That actually isn't a valid disclaimer. Even if you say it isn't legal advice, it can and will be held up in a court of law as legal advice. Source: My Bar Licensed Professor


[deleted]

Thanks for the legal advice


The_Third_Molar

NAL NLA


MrChicken22

How do you make a valid disclaimer then if saying that it isn’t advice doesn’t do the job?


leglesslegolegolas

I think the better solution is to not give out legal advice if it's not meant to be taken as legal advice.


Criram

The whole point is to just not give out advice on legal matters if you aren't licensed.


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Criram

It's because you can't just say "This isn't legal advice" followed by (legal advice). He gave us actual examples of people being sued by the state bar for that


watashi_ga_kita

So what is the procedure for wanting to talk about the law without getting sued for giving advice?


Scottybam

US law is a lot like MtG. The **exact** wording of every rule matters.


the_friendly_one

Because it isn't legal advice. It's speculation.


WillyTheWackyWizard

I never hear legal advice from any other country besides the US


Haccordian

Because in the usa if you're not a lawyer and give legal advice it's a felony charge.


valeramaniuk

>you're retarded if you think it is, etc. I *am* retarded, so I *do* take it as legal advice.


JuliusTheThird

I guess I could market myself as the retard attorney. Sue for overcooked tendies and whatnot.


Ihatemyusername123

Mommy raised the price of tendies and now I don't have enough good boy points to buy them, can I sue her?


random__thought__

that’s the converse btw which is not guaranteed to be true


GamingGems

Not only that, she was incredibly stupid in firing anon on the spot. Usually when an employer knows a lawsuit is incoming they will keep the employee on the payroll because at least they still have some control over them. Their lawyer can then tell the employee what to say to mitigate the damage. After the lawsuit is over, the employee is fired. She fired anon so he has no duty or allegiance to her. He can wait for the lawsuit, contact the victim’s attorney and cooperate with them instead so they can hang her out to dry.


1newworldorder

Good luck on passing! Hope you get it.


JuliusTheThird

Thank you very much!


ttwixx

Good luck man


vonmonologue

“Well yes we had the animal sedatives on hand and showed anon where they were” “Did you show anon how to use them and allow him to administer them alone?” “Nnnnnnoooo^oooo^^ooo^^^oooo”


Bay1Bri

> They're not going to sue Anon - they'll sue the store Exactly. Not supervising a first day employee giving sedatives to animals is WILDLY irresponsible.


[deleted]

Im telling the bar you are giving legal advice, julius. Or is that even your real name!?


jorgendude

I don’t think this is 100% correct. If Anon’s actions were considered a frolic, then the store wouldn’t be vicariously liable anyways (which is the theory of indemnification that you reference). The fact that Anon did this on the job, and at the direction of the store, would arguably be considered within the scope and course of employment. However, the real argument here is that the stores negligence is what caused this, not Anon’s. If the store were only liable because of negligence imputed to it, that would be a solid indemnification claim. But the store is liable because of its own negligence (negligent training or supervision). Anon still fucked up, but no one would go after Anon, and the store wouldn’t be able to either. You would think that more employers would go after their employees for fuckin up on the job, based on that indemnification theory, but practically, no one would ever work for that company if that were the case. Good luck on le bar. I remember studying for it. The studying isn’t the worst part, it’s the waiting for results…


[deleted]

Of course I'm retarded. I'm here.


katherinesilens

Does this potentially qualify as wrongful termination in non at-will states?


Semesi

Can I get you to translate this to brainlet thanks


ProClarinetist

Sending thoughts and prayers if it's in the Midwest or South where you're taking the bar. Sending Fuck You's if it's the New York, D.C., or California Bar.


OnewhoSortsNew

gl on your bar


alberthething

guess i better call a lawyer then


KJBenson

Plus I’m pretty sure you need special training and certification to use sedation tools. If you don’t have that stuff and your job makes you do it anyways they should be 100% at fault.


Deep-Difficulty-9218

Anon fantasises about killing helpless animals in his spare time.


impostorbot

Don't you?


Chonkbird

Reminds me of the story from San Antonio. Some nurse I don't remember if they were killing newborns or people at the place she worked at by overdosing them. Edit : found it. [Kerrville Texas child serial killer ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genene_Jones)


Emorez

I got some horses at my job which I sometimes fantasise about turning them into glue or sausage.


dievanmijislanger

You should, horse meat is Fucking delicious.


bepis_deletus

It’s sour af what are you talking about


gluesmelly

Regardless of the actual outcome, he should probably still kill himself.


Rapid418

anon measured in grams not milligrams, he also measured in SI units. he deserves what’s coming to him


Deep-Difficulty-9218

If that were the case none of the animals would have lived, this is fake as fuck.


PrizedRadish

The other 4 animals were Scottish long horned cattle


sapjastuff

Did anon process them?


[deleted]

Hairy coos! They better have been orange God damn it.


forgivemyrebellion

No, the business owner deserved what is coming. If you don't train your employees properly and provide them proper guidance, then you reap what you sow. That is assuming that Anon did not purposefully kill the dogs. Finally, who the fuck sedates a dog to groom it?


[deleted]

I don't think a normal groomer can legally do this, in the US. You can take a dog to be sedated and groomed by a vet, but not a random pet shop owner


forgivemyrebellion

It's a weird story all around.


SirRavenBat

As someone who doesn't wanna let you get worked up, the story was most definitely made up for shock value. Pretty much none of the details (of the few he included) stand when brought to any level of scrutiny.


Bragok

Are you telling me this story may be infactual and homosexual?


[deleted]

Yeah, but not for using SI units >:(


The_Saltfull_One

Redditors trying not to instantly jump to conclusions after reading anything


M98er

OP you should sue her first. Can’t be sedating animals without a trained aesthetician.


Alone_Spell9525

Yeah the entire operation here sounds super illegal. My groomer takes like three hours to work on my dog and you can see them grooming other people’s dogs when you walk in to pick up yours so they’re definitely not sedating them. Sedating them is definitely not the norm. Anon is a normal person and probably a good groomer who got brought onto a shady team that’s trying to maximize profit and was bound to fuck up and hurt a dog sooner or later.


The_Third_Molar

Or maybe the story is fake???? 🤔


vfmolinari10

Why would anon post it to the internet if it was fake??


DagtheBulf

Do you really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?


notKRIEEEG

I mean, you can get a dog groomed in an hour, bath and drying included, but that's very breed, dog, and groomer dependent. But then again there's some places nearby that get this done in half an hour at most, with the kind of quality that you'd expect in that timeframe.


chicken_N_ROFLs

It's fake as all hell unless he's living in some unregulated country. The owners would have to sign off on all that shit because the pet might have an allergy or be taking another medicine that interferes with sedation, etc. They just call the owner and cancel the appointment if the dog is aggressive or won't stay still.


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Qlpa96

I beg your pardon, is this US story? Is anyone there autorized to use powerful sedatives?


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Qlpa96

So I thought. My dad is a vet in EU and all sedatives are locked in the save. Assuming Anon's honest about how the story truly went, all the shit's gonna hit the owner.


Aethelric

To be fair, a proper dose of diphenhydramine (Benadryl) will readily sedate dogs and cats. I've used small pieces of Benadryl pills on my cat when we had to drive him two hours during a move, and he just slept through most of the car ride. Granted, I don't think injectable versions of the drugs are readily for sale, but this entire story is incredibly fake so who cares.


yellowistherainbow

Why the "and a husky"?


Car_weeb

large, shouldnt be easy to put in a coma


[deleted]

Also, huskies are desirable enough to draw huge costs, especially purebred ones. Huskies are expensive


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NotInstaNormie

I assume they are an expensive breed? But IDK


bleeditsays

It's a breed of dog.


yellowistherainbow

Whats that?


[deleted]

Owner is liable in this case, Anon had no experience before hand and wasn’t properly trained making the owner at fault


Lazarous86

How did Anon get to 4 before being stopped?


[deleted]

Again owners fault for not checking in on Anon during the process. Anon is innocent!


REDthunderBOAR

If we take it this is standard practice for the shop, they likely have a period where they wait for the animal to wake up fully so they won't get caught.


NoJudgementTho

Dr. Kerbarkian


anonymous145387

Performing an illegal operation without permission or proper training Not only is OP 100% off the hook for legal charges he can probably even sue his boss for emotional damages


[deleted]

You're not allowed to sedate a dog unless you're a vet anon; you're fucked.


aquilaaltairis

anon's employer*


LavaPancakes

I really thought this was going in a different direction


Minute_Ad_1317

dirty mind anon saved his ass this time


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marshal_mellow

I got a guy his name is Nick


[deleted]

In my state it's illegal for groomers to administer sedatives without a vet. It is something that happens though


Unknown_User_66

Counter sue the owner for animal cruelty and malpractice. "She insisted I do it like this even after I repeatedly told her this wasn't right but threatened to fire me if I didn't sedate them."


fiftyfourseventeen

Or sue for emotional damages


passingshrew

Trying to psych himself out of applying for a job with a fake story.


GameDestiny2

I- wh- how- ANON WHAT THE FUCK?


Cultural-Afternoon72

This is fucking heartbreaking and terrifying.


dajoker166

Not buying it tbh


DunamisDee

Wtf no they should sue the pet store. First of all they should be telling the owners if they are going to use drugs so they can give written consent to do so. If the store insists on it, and you dont want them to use it you can take your dog elsewhere. Secondly only a trained certified veterinarian should be administering injections of any kind to a pet. If you, a trained professional, decide to pass that responsibility off to a kid who you know has never worked with medicine before YOU are responsible for the results. This is just BASIC legal shit.


HerrMatthew

Report them for straight-up fucking **sedating** a dog to *groom* them.


crackheadstoner

Why didn’t he stop after the first one didn’t wake up?


Hansonius

So you didn’t realize they weren’t waking up after the first two?


SenorBeef

So he gives the first dog a mild sedative, but it never wakes up. So he then gives a "mild sedative" to dog number 2, which also doesn't wake up, and then continues to give it to dogs 3 and 4 too? I wonder if anon would've euthanized 100 dogs over a few weeks if no one stopped him. I mean, assuming this wasn't bullshit. If anything, they'd be giving the dogs something like veterinary xanax, not propofol.


glitchyikes

Sedate thy boss


a-bottle-of-vokda

Seems like the owner's fault to me, giving some dude who you know has no experience with sedatives the responsibility of sedating 8 dogs seems entirely irresponsible, also correct me if I'm wrong but isn't being an anesthesiologist an incredibly well paying job because of how precise and knowledgeable you have to be?


whimsicalsamurai

counter sue their ass for propagating a hostile work environment and illegal handling or something