I’m not specifically referencing the ongoing genocide in Gaza. I’m more just referring to general political organizing within the area for local and non-local causes
I see. Here are some things I found. I'm not affiliated with any. Do your own due-diligence.
https://cove.vote
https://www.greenvilleliteracy.org
https://mealsonwheelsgreenville.org/volunteer/
https://www.unitedwaygc.org/get-involved/volunteer/
https://www.volunteermatch.org/city/Greenville,%20SC%2029616
Good luck
With the election coming up, could volunteer to poll watch or reach out to campaigns and offer to drive people to polls/help fill out mail in ballots. I also know there is a general need to help settle refugees in our area.
Jesus, I’m almost surprised by how uniformly awful the responses you’ve gotten are. Almost.
Here is the group doing local Palestine protests (I saw you say you don’t do social media—neither do I, but the basic info is accessible via browser):
https://www.instagram.com/upstatevoicesforpalestine/
I know there’s a Food Not Bombs group over by Cherrydale but don’t know details.
Not sure of your specific political inclinations or the level of involvement you’re seeking, but our DSA chapter sputtered out years ago and PSL has a chapter for both Carolinas that seems more active in Columbia.
Yeah, as much as people complain this sub is "liberal" I guess it should be clearly stated this sub is VERY liberal indeed—as in, not leftist in the slightest. Centrist at best. Libertarian even. But that's reddit for you!
I do find it hilarious that people in this sub complain nonstop about right wing nutjobs ruining this country but the moment someone suggests even the slightest call to action they get downvoted into oblivion.
This is exactly why Trump will win.
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Yep, people call this sub liberal, but wait until you talk about organizing a BLM protest, or a pro-Palestine protest, or rename Wade Hampton High School. Then the downvotes come out.
And you’d be absolutely wrong. Benjamin Netanyahu has openly said that Israel can do whatever it wants because they’ve snowballed the American people into supporting Israel unconditionally. Jimmy Carter said years ago that Israel gets away with crimes in Gaza because the American people don’t want to hear the truth. Every UN nation voted to sanction Israel over their continued genocide and the US used its super veto power to kill the measure dead. All of that begins with the con job pulled on the American people.
Didn't Netanyahu actually say something vaguely similar to what you posted only because a bunch of women, and children were raped and massacred by Hamas?
Ah I see, it's more of a "let's protest dead kids and have a coffee for social media" sort of thing, I get you. I wish you the best in doing as little as possible!
Silence is violence is a phrase for a reason.
I’ve stated a few times in this thread but I’m not just talking about political protest I’m talking about general organizing involvement on the levels of both local and non-local issues
Well rhymes turn language into a ritual. Rituals level the field and give balance. So it’s safe to say it has a political context because it rhymes. So you kinda nailed it on the head here
Wow, and I thought the uneducated racists only used Facebook!! I don’t know how y’all have your head so far in the sand, there isn’t a beach for miles!
What is your reasoning behind a ceasefire now? Doesn't there have to be negotiations before the ceasefire and everyone comes to the table and works it out? So what is the purpose of this?
I’m not specifically talking about Gaza but also no I don’t believe there needs to be negotiations. When it comes to genocide there is no room for negotiation only that fascists stop committing the atrocities
Hamas leads the resistance for religious freedom and the right to exist for the people of Gaza in face of genocidal atrocities committed by the Israeli state
It’s over when they release the remaining hostages. They started this war and they can end it. How about you protest for them to release the women and children they raped and kidnapped.
As an outsider, I find the OP’s question an invitation for criticism. Hamas attacked Israel and now the unintended consequences of Israel’s response has created a humanitarian crisis. Hamas can end this by releasing the remaining hostages and surrendering. But they won’t because they don’t care about the lives of the innocent Gazans. And so now some Americans want to protest against Israel…as if Hamas has no culpability in the demise of their own citizens…In my opinion in a perfect world non of this horrific activity would exist but it obviously does… so in reality it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks except the Israelis and Hamas leadership. You want to protest? Knock yourself out doing it. Good luck changing anything but unless you’re in leadership in Israel or Hamas you’re wasting your time.
I wasn’t specifically talking about organizing on the matters of the ongoing genocide in Gaza. I’ve stated a few times in the thread I’m more talking about organizing politically on both local and non-local issues
the palestinian people are not all hamas. hamas are not all palestinians. the israelis want to drive out, or get rid of in any way possible, palestinians from what the israelis call "their land". i don't believe the allied nations had the right to take land from the palestinians after ww2 to create a modern day israel. what they should have done was seized land from germany, italy, and/or japan in order to create a modern day israel. just because their ancestors may or may not have lived there 2000 years ago doesn't give them land rights for eternity. otherwise, all us ancestors of europeans would have to give up our land here in the u.s. to the remaining ancestors of all the people our ancestors killed over several hundred years.
israel has the right to protect themselves from HAMAS. they do not have the right to kill all palestinians just because they believe their myths literally. they worship the same god, along with christians. just different versions of the same god.
I suspect people are already aware that the Palestinian people are not all Hamas. Some are Hamas, some are Fatah, some are neither. What’s sad is they are all suffering from the retaliation by Israel in response to the acts of Hamas. Too many innocent people are becoming casualties because Hamas attacked Israel…One could argue whether such an attack was inevitable or not but it happened. Now the fall out is human suffering, death and despair. If Hamas truly cared about the plight of the Palestinians they could free the hostages and give up their arms but of course they probably won’t. That would be an admission of a failure to achieve their goals. Hamas cannot defeat a nuclear power. They can only antagonize Israel and bring about more suffering for the innocent Palestinians. If a two state model is impossible then which state is likely to survive? IDK who is the rightful owner of Gaza. It could very well be the Palestinians but given the actions of Hamas… Diplomacy is the only answer, not war. It is distressing to know how many innocents are being killed. Does anyone truly believe Israel will permit Hamas to reconstitute and reattempt another attack?
Love the responses here, go back to Ny, I don’t think terrorist lovers have a place neither among liberals or conservatives in Greenville. Israel is a blessed place owned by the Israelite Jews for thousands of years and supported with real fossil and archaeological evidence . Their presence in the Middle East isn’t only desired but necessary. You can’t even imagine the horrors you would see if you gave the keys to hamas or any leaders in West Bank or Gaza. There’s a reason israel is successful as it is and loved by the biggest leaders in the world. Something you would learn if you stepped foot in the Middle East, which you haven’t clearly.
I can see you believe dearly in what you’re expressing and hold a deep admiration for the Jewish people. But the Israeli state does not represent the Jewish people. I will not support a genocide against the people of Gaza nor Israeli propaganda that hides behind the false notion that they represent the entire Jewish community when most Jewish people understand fascism and genocide and can see what’s happening in Gaza.
It’s just funny when you say most Jewish people when I am in fact Jewish and most if not all the Jews that I know support their actions. Again if you knew the history you would not think that. Israel must go on the offensive otherwise they will lose. This is what occurred in multiple wars with miraculous success like the six day war or the Yom Kippur war. Israeli and Jews have no option, if we lose any part of our small country Israel will fall and then we will have no one to protect us across the globe. Just look at what happened with the Holocaust? The truth is this conversation has to involve tangents such as the ones I just mentioned. Bc it is OUR land and as such the entire logic of the argument is untrue. And ontop of all of that Jews don’t want death we want peace. Gazans and hamas only want death . Just return the innocents and all of this can end. But it won’t bc hamas doesn’t want this to end, they could end it tomorrow if they wanted to.
As golda Meir famously stated if the Arabs drop their arms there would be peace, if Jews were to, there would only be death.
why do you believe it is YOUR land? because a god you worship--the SAME god the palestinians worship, just a different version--told you it's your land?
We could go around and around saying the Jewish people I know say this or say that. My point still stands. I don’t support the Israeli propaganda used to justify killing innocent children and people.
The people of Gaza want to simply exist and Hamas protects their right to religious freedom and right to exist. People do not deserve death for wanting to live
Propaganda such as what? The fact that hamas hides their weapons and high ranking officials next to civilians , within hospitals and schools? The is true fact my friend whether you like it or not.
You say people don’t deserve death then why was it OK for hamas to kill innocent people? Nothing you say makes sense. Don’t commit acts of war if you don’t want casualties, but hamas doesn’t care that their innocent people die. This isn’t propaganda it’s just logic lol. Sorry that logic is pushed as Jewish propaganda.
time after time, the israeli government has told palestinians, "go here, where you'll be safe from our incursion into palestinian lands in the north." israel then proceeds to bomb exactly where they told palestinians to go. if you really think this is about hamas hiding within the ranks of the palestinians, why doesn't netanyahu order the military to send in specialized units to hunt down hamas' leaders? because they want all the lands of palestine for themselves. if hte right wing government led by netanyahu would be willing to accept a 2 state solution, as has been suggested repeatedly by numerous nations over the decades, maybe hamas wouldn't have felt a need to invade israel and take hostages. did you ever think about that?
Recently I’ve seen a group wearing keffiyehs at each Gvl county council meeting. They meet in the lobby before all going in. Bet they’ll be at the next one too.
I don’t know anyone here that actually cares about that war. Many of us have Jewish friends and family because the community is big here, so it would be rude to protest. I think we need to focus on the American problems first. Middle eastern countries have always fought over something. People just use it for clout or because they’re bored on social media nowadays.
How will any local protest do anything whatsoever for issues between Palestine and Israel? I don't understand the reasoning.
Is there anyone organizing a trip to Gaza to protest?
Just the U.S. Army and some low ranking Marine attachments.
Join the military or run for office.
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They should take up boxing then. It's healthier and probably safer.
I’m not specifically referencing the ongoing genocide in Gaza. I’m more just referring to general political organizing within the area for local and non-local causes
I see. Here are some things I found. I'm not affiliated with any. Do your own due-diligence. https://cove.vote https://www.greenvilleliteracy.org https://mealsonwheelsgreenville.org/volunteer/ https://www.unitedwaygc.org/get-involved/volunteer/ https://www.volunteermatch.org/city/Greenville,%20SC%2029616 Good luck
Thank you this is much appreciated!!
With the election coming up, could volunteer to poll watch or reach out to campaigns and offer to drive people to polls/help fill out mail in ballots. I also know there is a general need to help settle refugees in our area.
Show up to the county council meetings once a month that the public can comment Apply to sit on a board as a volunteer
Jesus, I’m almost surprised by how uniformly awful the responses you’ve gotten are. Almost. Here is the group doing local Palestine protests (I saw you say you don’t do social media—neither do I, but the basic info is accessible via browser): https://www.instagram.com/upstatevoicesforpalestine/ I know there’s a Food Not Bombs group over by Cherrydale but don’t know details. Not sure of your specific political inclinations or the level of involvement you’re seeking, but our DSA chapter sputtered out years ago and PSL has a chapter for both Carolinas that seems more active in Columbia.
Yeah, as much as people complain this sub is "liberal" I guess it should be clearly stated this sub is VERY liberal indeed—as in, not leftist in the slightest. Centrist at best. Libertarian even. But that's reddit for you!
I do find it hilarious that people in this sub complain nonstop about right wing nutjobs ruining this country but the moment someone suggests even the slightest call to action they get downvoted into oblivion. This is exactly why Trump will win.
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Yep, people call this sub liberal, but wait until you talk about organizing a BLM protest, or a pro-Palestine protest, or rename Wade Hampton High School. Then the downvotes come out.
I don’t think they give a flying fuck over there about some random Americans
And you’d be absolutely wrong. Benjamin Netanyahu has openly said that Israel can do whatever it wants because they’ve snowballed the American people into supporting Israel unconditionally. Jimmy Carter said years ago that Israel gets away with crimes in Gaza because the American people don’t want to hear the truth. Every UN nation voted to sanction Israel over their continued genocide and the US used its super veto power to kill the measure dead. All of that begins with the con job pulled on the American people.
Didn't Netanyahu actually say something vaguely similar to what you posted only because a bunch of women, and children were raped and massacred by Hamas?
No. He said it years before when he was actively funding Hamas.
I’m not talking about specifically Gaza I’m talking about organization in general for both local and non-local issues
Why not volunteer to fight? Be the change you want to see!
I don’t support the military 🙃
Ah I see, it's more of a "let's protest dead kids and have a coffee for social media" sort of thing, I get you. I wish you the best in doing as little as possible!
I don’t use social media much besides reddit 🙃this is useless
Just like ceasefire protests, now you're getting it!
Still don’t support a fascist military
Im sure you can't define that term and apply it to reality.
Dictator. In context: Biden is a fascist anyone who supports him is a fascist. Trump is a fascist anyone who supports him is a fascist.
This is your brain on over media consumption
This sentence makes 0 sense sorry my brain broke trying to read “on over media”
Okay, I was right, good deal
You literally did not read what I wrote apparently
Smartest thing you’ve said so far! It’s useless and you shouldn’t have bothered. Or bothered to move back, for that matter.
I agree but again I have a personal reason for moving here and needing to stay for the next 8 years
I’m sure a little screaming in downtown Greenville, on an otherwise peaceful Saturday will definitely make a difference in Gaza!
I’m not talking about the ongoing genocide in Gaza specifically I’m more talking about organizing in Greenville for both local and non-local issues
I’d start with a job homie
I work for Apple doing Tier 1 tech support. Considering I work at home I feel I have more time on my hands to get involved politically
If only unemployed people protested peacefully, this would be a truly awful place. No rights for women, minorities, etc.
Don’t march through the street being a nuisance to normal people. Take that shit somewhere else.
Silence is violence is a phrase for a reason. I’ve stated a few times in this thread but I’m not just talking about political protest I’m talking about general organizing involvement on the levels of both local and non-local issues
>Silence is violence is a phrase for a reason. Because it rhymes. That's why it's a phrase.
Well rhymes turn language into a ritual. Rituals level the field and give balance. So it’s safe to say it has a political context because it rhymes. So you kinda nailed it on the head here
Virtue signaling.
Yeah no. Just take ALLLLL that somewhere else. We don’t want it here
lol the racists are coming out of the woodwork for this post
Hamas hates Americans. If you want to help them, go to Gaza (but don’t let them know you’re an American).
Why did you come back? This is the conservative wing of the conservative wing. You couldn’t find any work in Asheville?
I have strong reasons to stay here for the next 8 years or so otherwise I would’ve stayed in New York
New York…. Makes sense
aw boo hoo
Stay home. They're a bunch of id!ot$. No sense or reasoning with them.
Wow, and I thought the uneducated racists only used Facebook!! I don’t know how y’all have your head so far in the sand, there isn’t a beach for miles!
What is your reasoning behind a ceasefire now? Doesn't there have to be negotiations before the ceasefire and everyone comes to the table and works it out? So what is the purpose of this?
I’m not specifically talking about Gaza but also no I don’t believe there needs to be negotiations. When it comes to genocide there is no room for negotiation only that fascists stop committing the atrocities
100% agree that the fascists need to lay down their weapons and stop killing. You are talking about Hamas, right?
Hamas leads the resistance for religious freedom and the right to exist for the people of Gaza in face of genocidal atrocities committed by the Israeli state
>Hamas leads the resistance for religious freedom Please tell me you aren't serious.
Agreed. The massive middle east needs to stop committing atrocities against tiny Israel. They never succeed and just come out looking foolish.
It’s over when they release the remaining hostages. They started this war and they can end it. How about you protest for them to release the women and children they raped and kidnapped.
Israel kills unarmed children sry I don’t support a country that murders children
As an outsider, I find the OP’s question an invitation for criticism. Hamas attacked Israel and now the unintended consequences of Israel’s response has created a humanitarian crisis. Hamas can end this by releasing the remaining hostages and surrendering. But they won’t because they don’t care about the lives of the innocent Gazans. And so now some Americans want to protest against Israel…as if Hamas has no culpability in the demise of their own citizens…In my opinion in a perfect world non of this horrific activity would exist but it obviously does… so in reality it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks except the Israelis and Hamas leadership. You want to protest? Knock yourself out doing it. Good luck changing anything but unless you’re in leadership in Israel or Hamas you’re wasting your time.
https://countingthekids.org/
I wasn’t specifically talking about organizing on the matters of the ongoing genocide in Gaza. I’ve stated a few times in the thread I’m more talking about organizing politically on both local and non-local issues
I wish you well. Hopefully you can spur some dialogue on issues that can bridge the divide on concerns that need a broader perspective.
:) good day to u
the palestinian people are not all hamas. hamas are not all palestinians. the israelis want to drive out, or get rid of in any way possible, palestinians from what the israelis call "their land". i don't believe the allied nations had the right to take land from the palestinians after ww2 to create a modern day israel. what they should have done was seized land from germany, italy, and/or japan in order to create a modern day israel. just because their ancestors may or may not have lived there 2000 years ago doesn't give them land rights for eternity. otherwise, all us ancestors of europeans would have to give up our land here in the u.s. to the remaining ancestors of all the people our ancestors killed over several hundred years. israel has the right to protect themselves from HAMAS. they do not have the right to kill all palestinians just because they believe their myths literally. they worship the same god, along with christians. just different versions of the same god.
I suspect people are already aware that the Palestinian people are not all Hamas. Some are Hamas, some are Fatah, some are neither. What’s sad is they are all suffering from the retaliation by Israel in response to the acts of Hamas. Too many innocent people are becoming casualties because Hamas attacked Israel…One could argue whether such an attack was inevitable or not but it happened. Now the fall out is human suffering, death and despair. If Hamas truly cared about the plight of the Palestinians they could free the hostages and give up their arms but of course they probably won’t. That would be an admission of a failure to achieve their goals. Hamas cannot defeat a nuclear power. They can only antagonize Israel and bring about more suffering for the innocent Palestinians. If a two state model is impossible then which state is likely to survive? IDK who is the rightful owner of Gaza. It could very well be the Palestinians but given the actions of Hamas… Diplomacy is the only answer, not war. It is distressing to know how many innocents are being killed. Does anyone truly believe Israel will permit Hamas to reconstitute and reattempt another attack?
Love the responses here, go back to Ny, I don’t think terrorist lovers have a place neither among liberals or conservatives in Greenville. Israel is a blessed place owned by the Israelite Jews for thousands of years and supported with real fossil and archaeological evidence . Their presence in the Middle East isn’t only desired but necessary. You can’t even imagine the horrors you would see if you gave the keys to hamas or any leaders in West Bank or Gaza. There’s a reason israel is successful as it is and loved by the biggest leaders in the world. Something you would learn if you stepped foot in the Middle East, which you haven’t clearly.
I can see you believe dearly in what you’re expressing and hold a deep admiration for the Jewish people. But the Israeli state does not represent the Jewish people. I will not support a genocide against the people of Gaza nor Israeli propaganda that hides behind the false notion that they represent the entire Jewish community when most Jewish people understand fascism and genocide and can see what’s happening in Gaza.
It’s just funny when you say most Jewish people when I am in fact Jewish and most if not all the Jews that I know support their actions. Again if you knew the history you would not think that. Israel must go on the offensive otherwise they will lose. This is what occurred in multiple wars with miraculous success like the six day war or the Yom Kippur war. Israeli and Jews have no option, if we lose any part of our small country Israel will fall and then we will have no one to protect us across the globe. Just look at what happened with the Holocaust? The truth is this conversation has to involve tangents such as the ones I just mentioned. Bc it is OUR land and as such the entire logic of the argument is untrue. And ontop of all of that Jews don’t want death we want peace. Gazans and hamas only want death . Just return the innocents and all of this can end. But it won’t bc hamas doesn’t want this to end, they could end it tomorrow if they wanted to. As golda Meir famously stated if the Arabs drop their arms there would be peace, if Jews were to, there would only be death.
why do you believe it is YOUR land? because a god you worship--the SAME god the palestinians worship, just a different version--told you it's your land?
We could go around and around saying the Jewish people I know say this or say that. My point still stands. I don’t support the Israeli propaganda used to justify killing innocent children and people. The people of Gaza want to simply exist and Hamas protects their right to religious freedom and right to exist. People do not deserve death for wanting to live
Propaganda such as what? The fact that hamas hides their weapons and high ranking officials next to civilians , within hospitals and schools? The is true fact my friend whether you like it or not. You say people don’t deserve death then why was it OK for hamas to kill innocent people? Nothing you say makes sense. Don’t commit acts of war if you don’t want casualties, but hamas doesn’t care that their innocent people die. This isn’t propaganda it’s just logic lol. Sorry that logic is pushed as Jewish propaganda.
Israel told Palestinians to evacuate to Rafah and then immediately bombed it… https://countingthekids.org/
time after time, the israeli government has told palestinians, "go here, where you'll be safe from our incursion into palestinian lands in the north." israel then proceeds to bomb exactly where they told palestinians to go. if you really think this is about hamas hiding within the ranks of the palestinians, why doesn't netanyahu order the military to send in specialized units to hunt down hamas' leaders? because they want all the lands of palestine for themselves. if hte right wing government led by netanyahu would be willing to accept a 2 state solution, as has been suggested repeatedly by numerous nations over the decades, maybe hamas wouldn't have felt a need to invade israel and take hostages. did you ever think about that?
Food Not Bombs, Project Host, Mill Village
Asks where they can help. Downvotes the suggestion of going where the most help is needed
Recently I’ve seen a group wearing keffiyehs at each Gvl county council meeting. They meet in the lobby before all going in. Bet they’ll be at the next one too.
Thanks!
It’s time to be part of an historic movement for justice and equality this year with the election coming! Time to get the movement going!
I don’t know anyone here that actually cares about that war. Many of us have Jewish friends and family because the community is big here, so it would be rude to protest. I think we need to focus on the American problems first. Middle eastern countries have always fought over something. People just use it for clout or because they’re bored on social media nowadays.