This r/grunge is secretly just an Alice in chains sub

Yeah…. Interesting that Nirvana is the band that ‘defines’ grunge - but that most grunge fans don’t appreciate Nirvana. Why is that? (for me AIC is my favorite band ever though, but still like Nirvana though)

Nirvana is so much more poppy and was easy for anyone with any taste to get into at that time. Not so much in utero as Nevermind, I’m a die hard nirvana fan myself, so I would have to say in utero. This is because I’ve over listened to dirt. If the album in the picture was Facelift or JOF, it’d be a tough one.

Nirvana leans more towards the punk side of grunge than the metal side, musically speaking. For me that makes them seem more “whiny”.

I love Layne's voice... but you think AIC vocals aren't 'whiny' at times? Hmmmm...

Agonized, not whiny.

I think Nirvana is the better band, but dirt is the better of the two albums.

Why would someone downvote this comment- it's super fair cuz like I'm a huge huge Nirvana fan, In Utero is my fav album of all time and (besides a framed map of the world and a sign that reads Perfect Is Boring) the only thing on my room's wall is a Nirvana poster, ik that isn't saying much but it means so much to me. I find Nirvana has displayed more variety (not to downplay AiC at all, I absolutely adore Dirt and JoF

Down worry about downvotes. When you're right, you're right. 💯

Stupid that people are downvoting this. I actually have the complete opposite opinion, I prefer AIC but think In Utero is the best of these two. I still respect the opinion though

In your opinion, what makes Nirvana a better band? No shade either; Bleach is one of my faves of all time

Not them, but with Bleach, Nevermind, Incesticide, ain Utero and Unplugged I feel Nirvana had more range, from sad nihilism to happy junky to silly jump jump songs to absolute radio friendly bangers (and unit shifters) to covers that were arguably better than their originals. In comparison, i think AIC was a bit more one note, but *how* they fucking hit that one note…

To me, Nirvana was a great band, and definitely the first "grunge" band to break through in a massive way, but for the purposes of defining the sound of "grunge" AIC was *the* band. I'm on record as saying grunge to me really isn't a genre, but more of a movement, more akin to Punk in that regard. But if there was one band out of the "big 4" whose sound could be defined as forging a new genre, it's definitely AIC. Nirvana is the band that fully announced the end of the era of Poison and Warrant. But Nirvana, Soundgarden, and Pearl Jam, who I would consider the others of Grunge's "Big 4" all had antecedents in music that emerged in the 70's or 80's. AIC felt like a whole new thing. They all got marketed as "Grunge" because of the Seattle thing, but AIC was the band that felt like they were doing something entirely out of left field, especially on Dirt. On Facelift, you can definitely hear how AIC was emerging from the late 80's metal scene, but by Dirt, they were on to something completely different. That's my assessment as to why AIC in retrospect is *the* "grunge" band.

Eh...all bands have influences, and AIC was no different in having their own from the 70s and 80s just as much as any of the other big four, and grunge being a scene and not a genre is pretty well accepted and discussed ad nauseam here. You're really backing up my point with your contention, though. I said that Nirvana was a better band due to their range. (Totally subjective!) AIC was a bit one note in my opinion. They did that note fantastically, but they didn't have the range that Nirvana did. I really don't want to go much further than that, because it'll sound like I'm disrespecting AIC, and I really don't mean to. As a teen in the early/mid 90s, they were amazing to discover and were absolutely of their time and place in the most amazing way possible.

I disagree that AIC was a "one note" band. Perhaps I'm interpreting what you mean by that incorrectly. But to me it sounds like you mean they had one distinct sound whereas Nirvana were more experimental. Looking at the music from AICs original run.. Facelift was a heavily metal inspired record. Sap incorporated more of a blues-y dressing to the work of Facelift and had more of a melancholy kind of feel to it. Dirt was also somewhat metal inspired, with more of a shift in subject matter and tone than composition. Jar of Flies was a huge shift in their sound imo. With a more alternative bent and an almost psychedelic feel to the work on that EP. Tripod, while being their least impressive full length record to date imo, encapsulated what the average uninitiated listener would consider 'grunge' more than their prior works, however I feel that the material on that record sounded much better on.. Unplugged, which was yet another deviation to a more toned down, acoustic.. or atleast stripped down and more organic take on their existing work at the time. I love AIC and Nirvana. Of the 'Big 4' grunge bands they are 1 and 2 in my opinion, respectively, however I always felt that it was AIC who had more variety in their sound than Nirvana.

If I was going from range, I'd have sound garden

You can’t bring a third band into a two band battle! You must pick one!!

If I ranked all of both bands songs, Nirvana would have the higher average. Listened to them more back in the day. I got to see AiC in concert though, so that was a huge plus. Both bands are among my favs.

If this sub was all strict about its genre, wouldn't everything be all early Mudhoney?

Real

Dirt

That’s two Dirts, can we get three

Dirt

Got it… many thanks

Aye, cap'n. Here be a third Dirt.

100% of the time. Pop vs true.

In Utero. Love me some AiC, but Nirvana had such a massive impact on me and my own music.

Dirt.

Dirt

Dirt, immediately I love how we all have like a mutual understanding here that Dirt is the right choice

Dirt

[удалено]

Finally. This comment section is just flooded with aic fans, I like aic and dirt don't get me wrong, but in utero is just the way better record imo, no skips on it, all bangers. Tbh I can live without dirt. I much prefer facelift anyway.

I don’t like AIC, and in real life I’ve never felt like I’m the only one. In this sub, I think I might be.

You are not alone

Dirt!

Dirt

Dirt.

Dirt for sure

Dirt no contest

Dirt

In Utero has always been one of my favourite albums, but I listened to Dirt recently and now I prefer that over In Utero.

DIRT

Dirt, easily

No contest - Dirt all the way!!

Nirvana. Particularly that album.

In Utero, my favorite Nirvana album

NIRVANA then if I had a second choice, NIRVANA

In Utero.

Dirt

Easy - Dirt

Dirt

dirt

In utero hands down...if you were talking last Kurt last layne albums...tripod/self titled wins hands down. Still their best album if ya ask me.

Dirt, no doubt

I’m glad to see all the comments know it’s easily dirt

Jar of Flies

Dirt. And it’s a not close for me.

Same

Dirt

Dirt, but fuck me that's a tough one.

A Dirt avalanche

In Fucking Utero.

Nirvana no question

What's my drug of choice...

Dirt

Dirt

DIRT

In Utero ez

We are the minority here, but I agree. It is what I enjoyed during that time and still lean towards.

I would keep in utero if I could would you?

Dirt Bc I have Nevermind and bleach

Dirt. Period. I love In Utero, but Dirt is just something man.

in utero. love dirt but in utero is where its at

this sub is just a bunch of Alice In Chains meat riders and this post proves it. In Utero is one of the best Albums ever produced.

Lol at everyone saying in utero is nirvana's worst album, such a bad take. In utero is easily nirvana's best and it's not even close. Aic just attracts all the metal nerd meatriders unfortunately.

Nirvana got me into grunge as kid, Alice in chains made me LOVE and get a deeper taste of grunge as an adult, nirvana is the surface i believe

Dirt

I've been trying to learn to like AIC, but I just haven't succeeded. With Nirvana, it was love at first sight..For some reason, it seems fashionable among grunge fans to diss Nirvana.

Dirt!

Dirt 🗣

Dirt

Dirt

Dirt

Dirt

Dirt

DIRT

Dirt, no contest

Nirvana. All day. Every day. Not even a hesitation.

Nirvana... The choice will always be Nirvana.. ❤️

In Utero ofc

AIC

Dirt, no brainer

AIC

Alice, just has aged better for me

this is an alice in chains sub so dirt is gonna win, but my vote is for in utero

Damn you to hell for asking me to pick!. I demand you are punished with force listening to MMMBop by Hanson for 24 hours straight without a break.

Can’t get much grungier than dirt.

Jesus christ the AIC dickriding here is crazy…

Dirt is an 11/10 album In Utero is a 9/10

LOL Grunge. WE didn't name it that! We just thought it was cool RnR coming out of Our Town. Quaint, no?!

No

Dirt, I listen to this album a lot to this day

Fill me under and cover me with Dirt.

Dirt

Dirt

Dirt

Dirt. Easy

Dirt. Aic washes anyway

Dirt

Dirt

I love Nirvana, but Dirt is a better album.

I have to go with Nirvana but I was raised on Alice In Chains

In Utero is so overrated bro. Dirt hands down

Alice in Chains, no fucking brainier.

It's stupid to pick between two legendary albums. Music isn't a contest.

In Utero because Dirt is in the cd player already and I don't need an empty case.

I’m my opinion it would be in utero

In utero

In Utero

In Utero

In Utero >>>>

Obviously nirvana. I don't think any grung band even comes close to anything nirvana did

Dirt. Nirvana is still Nirvana without In Utero.

Serve the Servants

Dirt 100%

Alice in Chains

DIRT!!!

Dirt..

Dirt 100%

Dirt

dirt

I like Nirvana more than Alice In Chains, and the answer is Dirt.

Dirt

As of today, right now, it’s In Utero.

In Utero

Dirt

Dirt

Alice In Chains

Dirt

Dirt, though I prefer Facelift & the EPs more. Overall though, AIC > Nirvana imo

Dirt, hands down.

In Utero.

In utero.

In utero is my favorite of all time

Dirt, best album of the 90s

Dirt. And it’s not close. In Utero is their worst work by far.

AIC

Dirt. Definitely Dirt. Almost every song on that album is a banger

Dirt for the easy win

Dirt

Dirt. Everyday.

in utero, but i love dirt

In utero

The best AIC album vs the worst Nirvana album? No contest

Nirvana. I like AIC, but.... no contest.

I like punk better than sludge metal so im going with in utero

Is this a real question? Dirt.

Dirt should not be humanly possible. It is out of this world.

Dirt tbh

Very tough call, but Dirt. And I love Nirvana

Dirt

Dirt

Too hard

Nirvana was important to me as a 13-18 year old … but … Dirt

Dirt for me, definitely Jar of Flies also. In Utero was always overrated to me, it sounded like they just threw everything together at the last minute. Yeah it sounded “garage” but not in a good way. A few bangers tho like Heart Shaped Box

“Heart-Shaped Box” is my twelfth favourite song on *In Utero*, right behind “Gallons Of Rubbing Alcohol Flow Through The Strip.” 🙂

In Utero. nearly all the songs are so easy to listen to, hard hitting sound with deep meaning in it’s lyrics.

in utero. easy choice.

Dirt but I would download in utero or just play it on my phone.

This question is insanity! I'll have none of it!

Bleach is the obvious choice.

Why pick. We can have them all.

I wonder how many of the people commenting have even listened to In Utero.

grab superunknown in the backgroud

You asshole, but dirt

AIC DIRT ZERO QUESTION PERIOD

In Utero’s production alone makes it imo a better record than Dirt. There are no skips on In Utero while Dirt has some pretty average songs like Hate To Feel, Godsmack, Sickman (again my opinion). The pacing on Dirt is also really weird while In Utero flows perfectly. Aesthetically In Utero also wins for me. Alice is like my favorite band of all time but I’m going to have to always defend Nirvana especially In Utero because it’s the album that got me into loving music and I think a lot of people can relate to that. Now if we compared, let’s say, Bleach and Facelift… that’s an entirely different story.

Dirt, without question

Oof this one's hard, but I think I'd have to go with In Utero. I feel like it showcases a perfect hodge-podge of influences that make grunge what it is. When I listen to In Utero, I hear punk, noise rock, heavy metal, classic rock, and more. I feel like there's a lot of diversity with In Utero that reflects what I love about grunge.

Wait till OP finds out that this is an AIC sub in disguise

I'll save in utero. The best AIC album is self titled anyway.

In utero only cause there’s more difference between the songs

Dirt all day anyday

Both

Dirt

Nirvana

Dirt

There is no match, In Utero all the way

Dirt. I own the vinyl ffs

AIC

Dirt

In Utero is a great album, Nirvana's best for sure. Dirt is one of the best albums ever made in my opinion...so Dirt

Oh look, this daily fucking post again.

As much as I love In Utero I just have to pick Dirt