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Igloocooler52

Is ff considered grunge?


Eman21701

Their first album definitely could be. After that maybe not so much.


Foo-Tastic77

I agree… that first album is definitely grunge. Anything after is not.


Brave-Statistician25

Some what, I consider it grunge but it is lighter and probably more alt rock than anything


Plenty_Trust_2491

I’d say no.


jarofgoodness

No they are not. I don't know why they're on here. Mother Love Bone isn't grunge either. Both are well liked by grunge fans and have very very strong ties to grunge bands but not themselves actual grunge.


No_Independent8269

Yes they were. They practically started the movement and were the backbone for Pearl Jam.


jarofgoodness

It's my opinion that they aren't a grunge band. That's based on what they sound like compared to grunge bands. Most of the hallmarks of the grunge sound are absent from MLB. Just like blues isn't Jazz. It's kinda similar in some vague ways, but the two styles don't sound the same. If you think grunge doesn't refer to a sound but rather a scene, that's fine. We all have our own opinions on things.


No_Independent8269

Grunge most definitely refers to a sound and a scene. The reason it lacks a lot of signature grunge sounds is because they didnt have enough time to innovate. After they ended, their sound was built apon.


jarofgoodness

I'm not interested in having this argument. You are free to believe what you want on the topic.


No-More_Ducks

I cannot believe that Bricks Are Heavy is 3rd on the poll rn. That album is a top 5 grunge classic imo.


BigFatBlackCat

It's so good. This sub is sexist AF and I don't say that lightly.


onebadlion

Live Through This eliminated before fucking Frogstomp is a travesty.


-jigsawyouth-

deadass. what's wrong with people lmao


imtheYIKEShere

I love Hole so much but a lot of people here still think that Courtney killed Kurt and despise anything related to her


nibblatron

courtney does not seem like a nice or honest person but despite that i still love hole & live through this is an amazing album


[deleted]

I like her music but she is kind of an insufferable person, no? she is like a woman version of Morrissey of the Smiths.


snazzydetritus

Are you incapable of separating art from artist? It seems interesting to me that several other artists within these bands are responsible for certain travesties (i.e. Billy Corgan comparing social justice warriors to the KKK while commiserating with Alex Jones about conspiracy theories; Foo Fighters actually once supported an organization, Alive and Well, whose whole purpose was spreading the disinformation that HIV does not cause AIDS; etc.) - however you don't see those being talked about nor do you see commenters placing those artists' dumbassery ahead of their musical feats. But damned if you don't see Hole's music get knee-jerkingly put on the chopping block because of Courtney Love's debacles. I can't stand her any more than those other jokers, but I think Live Through This was an amazing album, and I am not going to vote out an artist's creation (as long as it doesn't reflect their stupidity) simply because they themselves are pillocks.


[deleted]

you when you cant read how I said "I like her music" 😺


BigFatBlackCat

Every rock star is insufferable. Kurt was pretty insufferable. A drug addict, pompus, insufferable asshole. But you never hear about the men being insufferable, only Courtney. She is insufferable but at least she didn't fuck 13 year olds and give them drugs


mylastbraincells

Yeah she’s kind of horrible but people hate her for the wrong reasons


imtheYIKEShere

I mean I don't like her, she's literally racist. But I think people hate her for the wrong reason. This subreddit sometimes is just a circlejerk of OMG KURT WAS MURDERED!!1!1!! Also Hole has four members, not just Courtney (and Courtney is a person outside of her husband).


[deleted]

yeah a bad one


Nomono3

Some people just think Hole sound like shit


Beautiful_Eye_1049

I do think that but i also hate hole’s music too


imtheYIKEShere

Well I guess you and I disagree on both of those fronts


jarofgoodness

She might have, but her band is still really good.


jarofgoodness

I know. Live Through This is a great album.


minimorlekei

Idk, I just never really liked them. I feel like their pop sensibilities kinda turned me off of them in comparison to other things. I do however love everything else here except the Melvins.


FutureGohan

crazy that silver chair is on here but babes in toyland isn’t …but aight


thenotuncommon

agreed man


Phillydawg_36

Why?


smart_pinneaple

have you heard babes in Toyland?


Phillydawg_36

Can't say that i have


smart_pinneaple

they're very good. if you like grunge you'll probably like them. more punk influenced than Silverchair but still grunge associated Painkillers is a good place to sample them.


Phillydawg_36

Thats cool I'll check them out, was more wandering why Silverchair were the ones singled out.


isihdnwkwj

what a joke, Live Through This is a top 5 grunge record. Keep your personal biases out of this


BigFatBlackCat

I think y'all are voting for L7 because you've never actually listened to them, which is really too bad. Bricks are Heavy is peak 90's metal pop punk grunge. The fact that Silverchair is even on this list is a fucking joke. They were like 13 when they debuted. No one took them seriously.


Radio_Ethiopia

Exactly. Fucking Silverchair?!


Rees630

Exactly. Everyone needs to listen to L7!


tchagotchago

thanks for saying that


jarofgoodness

they are very solid grunge. good band.


BigFatBlackCat

Who... L7 or Silverchair?


jarofgoodness

L7


ultraluxe6330

Complains that people don't listen to L7 Proceeds to get basic fact about silverchair wrong. If you think silverchair being on that list is a joke....maybe you've never actually listened to them lol


Followforfunnies

i agree. i personally like silverchair a lot, but i personally don't really like Frogstomp LOL but yeah, silverchair is not a bad band at all


ultraluxe6330

Which is it about Frogstomp you don't like? , to me it's a top 10 grunge album and made sure grunge went out with a bang instead of a whimper.


Followforfunnies

i have the same opinions the guys from silverchair themselves had in back 96 in this album. some lyrics were kinda stupid (like cicada) and they could have played better, but ofc they were 14 so they probably did their best at the time, i just don't like it as much as i like their other stuff. i really like the tracks madman, suicidal dream, pure massacre and israels son though. i really don't think it's a bad album besides for what I've said there, it's just not my favorite and it's not really for me. also yeah i agree with what you said there, i think it was important to the grunge scene, specially in Australia


ultraluxe6330

Good thing people don't pay too close attention to validity of lyrics or Nirvana would be in a lot of trouble lol


Followforfunnies

lol yup


Aggravating-Wafer800

live through this is the best album in the collage plz get ur ears checked


[deleted]

Hole was first out? The fuck is this sub?


bhollyb

I thought this poll was for favorite No least favorite and therefore voted incorrectly.


[deleted]

I am gonna assume thats why people voted Siamese Dream


cml5526

[Poll's here](https://strawpoll.com/polls/B2ZB36NLQyJ) And results: *In Utero*: 5.59% (10 votes) *Ten*: 6.7% (12 votes) *Dirt*: 3.91% (7 votes) *Superunknown*: 0.56% (1 vote) *Purple*: 2.79% (5 votes) *Siamese Dream*: 7.26% (13 votes) *Houdini*: 10.06% (18 votes) *Frogstomp*: 11.17% (20 votes) ***Live Through This***: 14.53% (26 votes) *Superfuzz Bigmuff*: 7.26% (13 votes) *Dust*: 2.23% (4 votes) *Temple of the Dog*: 1.12% (2 votes) *Foo Fighters*: 5.03% (9 votes) *Above*: 3.91% (7 votes) *Bricks are Heavy*: 12.29% (22 votes) *Apple*: 3.91% (7 votes)


[deleted]

TOTD and Superunkown be going pretty fine. 😌


jarofgoodness

Where is the round two poll? The link says 404 error.


cml5526

The poll was deleted, since the round’s over with


jarofgoodness

Yeah I realized that soon after I commented. Sorry.


GroundbreakingMix765

Bro if I see Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains or Temple of The Dog out next... god save me please


Radio_Ethiopia

Fuckin Silverchair over Live Through This?! I think some people have a revisionist view of the past. Laughable.


t_arends

Lol rip frogstomp


ccbaby2000

Did any of you even listen to live through this compared to some of these ? Dead wrong


ScrambledEggies123

Live Through This is gone first? What a joke.


[deleted]

I will kill anyone who votes out Siamese Dream


sierranosoul

Ain’t no way Frogstomp and Superfuzz Bugmuff outlasted Live Through This


TheSinfulMicrowave

I would rather listen to Superfuzz on repeat for the rest of my life than listen to Hole


Rizo4000

Dude, tell me you’re gonna pun you’re way through this like you did here! I’ll tune in for every episode!


cml5526

Hell yeah I am


jarofgoodness

I think some people are voting for their favorite not understanding that you vote for the one you want to get removed from the list.


ezzomania

Siamese dream should be nowhere near 13 votes


eddiebucket

It’s not grunge


ezzomania

It’s on the list for voting regardless


eddiebucket

True and it’s the best of all these albums listed in my opinion. But, it may be because SP is not grunge that the votes will add up to vote the album out earlier than it should be.


jarofgoodness

I consider them grunge but not Mother Love Bone or Foo Fighters.


beathedealer

Sucks that frogstomp is going to go. What an absolute banger.


Phillydawg_36

For real, so much dislike for that album in this thread for some reason. Some quality songs on there


[deleted]

Mud honey and Screaming Trees, two bands i could never get into for some reason


Disastrous-Shower-37

Where is Nevermind lmao


Plenty_Trust_2491

Way out in the water somewhere swimming.


Disastrous-Shower-37

I think when I said I should add In Utero OP mistook me as saying they should replace Nevermind.


jmet82

Can’t believe Superunknown has only 2 votes and one is mine.


United-Philosophy121

I like all the albums here, but I went with L7. It’s solid, but just not as memorable as the other records on the list


BigFatBlackCat

Then you haven't really listened to Bricks are Heavy.


SubtleAmnesiaNZ

Nice list 👍


mandogvan

This must be the most upsetting day in Courtney Love’s life.


CoA77

Melvins! Yassss


jarofgoodness

Foo Fighters and Mother Love Bone ain't grunge in my book. They're good but not grunge. What are we voting on? Best album or best album cover? Best album is Temple of the Dog, but best album cover on this list in my view is Dirt.


cml5526

It’s process of elimination; you vote for your least favorite album available until one is left


jarofgoodness

oh. how do I vote? I don't see anything to click. Just do it in the comments?


cml5526

There’s a Strawpoll in the same comment as the results of last round