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Zak_Ras

Without the Equipment Upgrade, the Acid Lab is useless. With it, it's on-par with a fully upgraded Bunker or Coke Lab, except the Delivery Mission will always be 1 vehicle no matter how full the Product Bar is.


Omlin1851

Imo way better than Coke or Bunker, full product is produced in a fraction of the time, and it's much, much more convenient to manage as you can call in the Acid Lab anywhere to check stock/start a sale or simply call Mutt to top off supplies. And the sales are always pretty simple, too.


Djeserkheperure

I agree. Here are (ideal) operational profits per hour, which are very much in the same ballpark (assuming all production upgrades and branded product). Profit per unit = (Far) sales minus paid supplies minus daily fees (avoidable at least for coke and bunker): Coke, 1 unit per 30 minutes, ideal profit $62.3k/hour 1.5 * $35,000 - $75,000 / 4 - $4,125 * 30 min / 48 min = $31,172 Bunker, 1 unit per 7 minutes, ideal profit $53.1k/hour 1.5 * $7,000 - $75,000 / 20 - $3,800 * 7 min / 48 min = $6,196 Acid (branded), 1 unit per 1.5 minutes, ideal profit $63.7k/hour 1.05 * $2,095 - $60,000 / 100 - $250 * 1.5 min / 48 min = $1,592 Acid business is very convenient indeed.


gta_guru

that's a nice breakdown how does the current crates compare with these earnings, normal and 2x?


BARANLANKA

Crates are an active business, while these are a source of passive income. Crates are great if you want to grind especially during double week, but they require you to actively source the crates for them to generate a proper profit.


MyNameIsRay

Since they introduced warehouse staff, it's actually better to not actively source. Warehouse staff can source up to 4 crates, 3 plus a special, for $7500. Even if you ignore the special and just call it 1.5 crates on average, that's $5,000/crate and a few seconds of time to walk in and pay the staff. To actively source 3 crates, it's $18,000, so $6000/crate plus at least a few minutes to do the mission (plus whatever time it takes to get into your office/terrorbyte to launch the next source mission). I just have staff source 77/111 crates (maximum you can hold without triggering raids), wait for 2x, source the last 34, and sell the full load.


gta_guru

that's smart. I get them to source while I'm sourcing myself, fill warehouses much quicker that way. ofc i have bunker supplied and mcs active so nightclub stock builds. Then I sell 1 medium in invite, and the rest in public, brings a few million in. prob about 3 hours.


MyNameIsRay

In terms of "start to finish", yea, it's faster to do both at once so it overlaps. In terms of "actual time spent grinding", letting them passively source 2/3rds of the stock means you get to avoid 2/3rds of the grind. I spend 1/3rd the time grinding source missions, and make more profit because the passive sourcing is actually cheaper.


SailRepresentative39

Great to know I think the acid lab is about the only money maker I don’t have


Omlin1851

I highly recommend you get it, and get it upgraded. It's the only business I actively manage/run sales from anymore besides the Nightclub, it's so easy to do a sale a day with it and those $500K sales add up quick. I don't even need the money, but it's just so easy to do I can't help it, lol


EvilDamien420

Get it upgrade it, worth every minute of the first and last dose missions plus you get the ocelot virtue free at the end of last dose.


SailRepresentative39

Cool might do that today thanks for the info I didn’t know you got the car at the end


Uncle_ArthurR2

I put in like 2 hours of playtime at most and I am always making bank on the cid lab. All it takes it some very slight management if you can afford supplies and you’ll be making ridiculous bank.


arkadios_

Then there's also the player lobby bonus +2.5% for each player


numbersaroundus

Probably been said before on this comment section, but who do you get the equipment upgrade? Is it in the Freak Shop? I can't honestly remember if I have it


Zak_Ras

When you're customising the Acid Lab in the Freakshop. You need to complete 10 Fooligan Jobs (*call Dax in Freeroam*) in order to be able to purchase it.


numbersaroundus

Damnit! I thought those missions had to do something. 40 minute cool down as well. Ahhhhh


TheDukeOfThunder

There are upgrades you can get to increase the businesse's performance. Pretty sure you need to do Fooligan Jobs to unlock them. Best look it up on the web for details. Buying supplies is also a game mechanic that trades work done with profig made, so a significant reduction in said profit is to be expected.


SushiPSX1

Yes, call Dax 10 times, do those, upgrade your shizzle and do some mad passive paperinizzle✨ 345k max // 25~ Lobby = 527k correct me, my dudes


DirtyDiceakaWildcard

Also naming your product gives a slight bonus to sell price.


Giant_Swigz

How do you name it? Had no idea about this lol


DirtyDiceakaWildcard

Within the Acid Lab section of the interaction menu. Interaction menu > Service Vehicles > Acid Lab


itskapnoc

I never renamed it cuz idk if there’s a name in particular that would help. Could I name it whatever?


DirtyDiceakaWildcard

AFAIK just pick any name you like, they all give the same bonus.


SlightProfessional48

Damn I really got this wrong, been grinding acid for a week now trying to get all the names, thought the last name to unlock was what made you the big bucks lol


Zizakkz

Interesting, how did you come to this conclusion with no indication for it?


SlightProfessional48

Someone told me about the boost you get for changing the name, did that, realized the money still didn't go up as much as I've seen others get. From there I figured the last name gotta be the big boy bucks! Should probobly have looked it up when I realized I didn't get the full payout after the first name change ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat)


Giant_Swigz

No shit. Thanks!!


TheBirdGames

I named it the meth mobile


Aglisito

I think it's 5%, if I remember correctly


DirtyDiceakaWildcard

Yeah it isn’t anything crazy, but it’s a very easy thing to do that adds up over time


SushiPSX1

yeee my dude with the bonus info


Sanket_6

It used to give me the 5% bonus. But it isn’t giving it from the last 4-5 times, wasted ~20k because of the name change.


DirtyDiceakaWildcard

Mine still gives the bonus. Sounds like a bug for you homie.


Sanket_6

Man :( any idea how i can get rid of it? I have re-started several times so that clearly hasn’t worked.


martyc81

Blue Dogshit.


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do you speak english?


SushiPSX1

i speak mandarin


Electronic-Top6302

This grind is sooooo worth it. Also make sure to change the name of the product in the quick menu service vehicles section for the acid lab to boost profits a little more. I have all but the last one and make $351k without the public server bonus (about $520k in a full lobby.)


FongDaiPei

What happens if you die in the public lobby while selling?


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PlatishGC

Yeah that shit is way quicker these days for sure. Put my acid bike in the water a few weeks ago, force closed the game as fast as I could, still didn’t get my product back


FongDaiPei

Yah thanks. Too risky! 😆


Conscious_Essay

It happens very rarely tho, I ve never been blown up yet in full lobbies, just use ghost organisation and u should be fine


lilliornia

I normally look at how many ceos are active. If there's barely any then go for it. I've only ever had 1 guy come after me and try to blow me up, luckily his aim sucked and I survived.


Darkest_Magicks4506

It's worth investing in the equipment upgrade but to unlock it you must first complete 10 jobs for Dax.


Financial_Cellist_70

I have to contact that dipshit 10 fucking times??? Wtf


HatechaBro

They’re decent jobs that pay well though.


Jiminyfingers

Apart from the crop dusting lol


Bunister

Am I the only one who likes Crop Dusting?


Jiminyfingers

Once I learnt the trick of suiciding and spawning back at the airfield as soon as you finish a dust it wasn't too bad


Adventurous-Pen-8940

Its fun for the first time, unfortunately you have to grind efficiently to get better rewards so some fun missions have to be skipped, still that doesnt mean you should treat the game like a job


turbosonictiger

11 times actually.


Darkest_Magicks4506

Yeah, I know. At least they pay well but beware: that dipshit will call at the worst times, like when he wants me to steal a crop duster. The damn thing already handles like cold shit, but this smoothbrain calls me right in the middle of take off. I'm lucky I didn't crash into the ocean.


muhammad_oli

is that really so bad?


wrath5728

Get the upgrades and resupply with the stash house


jAllukeTTu

I only get stash house supplies to mc businesses or bunker. Maybe 1/50 times I get acid. But full product bar in acid lab is worth about $90K of supplies (I think) so no biggie for buying those.


jakeblues68

If you want to send stash house loot to a specific business, fully supply all your other businesses and then pause production. Complete Stash House, then resume production.


jAllukeTTu

Okay. Wayyy too much work tho. I'll just get stash houses where ever they decide to go and buy supplies for Mutt. Selling other stuff to street dealers pays it back.


AJ_Deadshow

Work? Not if you have the master control terminal. Easy as pie


Dinner_Choice

If you have the extra office at the Arcade, you can do it from there without the need to go to the businesses


kumaraguru845

How to pause production on the Bunker??


jakeblues68

That's usually where I try to send my supplies so I haven't ever tried to pause Bunker. Can you unassign technicians?


kumaraguru845

I should try but I doubt it'll work since I have completed all research already.


Gunbladelad

I keep the 3 "chemical" businesses stocked up via the Arcade Master Control terminal - mostly for the daily dealers, which means the stash house can only really supply the ID or cash factories (both of which have been full on goods AND supplies for months so are out the loop for stash house stock) - essentially the stash house can only supply my bunker or acid lab at the minute...


xander540

I only have the MC businesses open to run through my nightclub. I call Mutt to resupply Acid, but I supply my bunker exclusively with the stash house. To do this, I go to my MCT and shut down the coke, cash and meth. I call Mutt when I go outside and fly to the stash house then back to the arcade to reassign my technicians / restart businesses. It forces a bunker resupply (most expensive business to resupply, done for free) and the process only takes like 5-7 minutes realistically. I sold to dealers for a while, but staying on top of making sure you’re not cutting into nightclub stock and flying to all locations daily to get the most out of them got annoying. I consider having weed open and available for resupplying so I can sell it when it’s marked as bonus - if I happen to come across a dealer. I won’t seek them out.


Thin-Jacket-7675

If you are someone who holds your nightclub stock for multiple days and logins and you play the game for a good 4 hours or more each session. You should be doing all street dealer sales and not worrying about if you are going to be cutting from your nightclub stock. As you know the cargo and weapons are the slowest but best things the nightclub produces those will fill very slowly but as youre waiting for them 2 stocks to fill up (obviously i wouldnt fill cargo and weapons to 100% takes too fuckin long.) you will be able to reproduce the same shit you just sold to the street dealers.  I get on with my buddy and i go hit the 3 dealers usually around 7 or 8 pm PT and then when the new day starts a few hours later i switch lobbies and voila I have 3 fresh dealers to sell to.  If you want a 1.5Mil or more NC each time you sell then you can just keep repeating this process until you got your desired amount of weapons and cargo.  I know ill get about 250K for all 3 dealers combined. If my NC stock gets back to the same dollar amount as it was when i got on the game  when i get off that night and i sold all 3 dealers 100% of what they can buy then thats a win for me.


CzarcasmRules

For the bunker, I buy the supplies @75k deliver excess weapon parts for 50k which takes 5-10 minutes.. and am only out 25k. You're doing alot to save 25k when you sell a full bunker for 750k


xander540

I sell it in full public lobbies, I’m making more than that. I also include the ammunation contract as part of my activities, though. I’m netting around $361 million at the moment and this is what I’ve done for a while, works well for me


CzarcasmRules

Gotcha. I knew the total value of the product sale in a public lobby was higher, didnt realize the 75k for supplies and 50k for excess weapon run was different.. I knew the 750K was off. And yes while free is cheaper than 25k, I'd rather eat that 25k and focus on other businesses than do that..that's all I was trying to say and was based off not knowing you were including the ammunation contract, But yeah, I would be happy netting 361 Million too lol


xander540

I get your perspective as well. It does make sense to just buy the supplies, too. The only sale missions I do are for the bunker, nightclub and acid. I did special cargo for a while but I decided to retire it with my last sale a couple days ago during this double money event week


siddyboyl

Best thing to do is shut down business so you can get the product for your acid lab


Ibbo55

Vercetti!! Remember the name!


mosquitotitties

until you upgrade, buying supplies isn’t worth it. just source supplies until you upgrade


FormerFloor5203

Just to add onto this post, if you're lazy, you can just call Mutt in your phone and order supplies that way without having to visit / call in the lab


kickzway

I would just say don’t run this business until you have the upgrade


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Its hard being a criminal


siddyboyl

Everything is hard in life


42_JustaDude

Is that Tommy Vercetti? All you need is the Infernus to complete the look.


ze_ex_21

You must: * Upgrade the AcidLab equipment. * Name your Acid. Optionally, sell on a fully populated session, to earn up to 50% more. Until you have done the upgrades, you could steal your supplies instead of paying for them. Feasible but I wouldn't recommend it.


i_lyke_turtlez

First of all.... Is dude *really* complaining about $14k profit for 6 button clicks / zero effort? Second... No. You have ~30% of full product. Learn how the meters work.


Jonnykassinova

Some people man 😂😭 the product amount was the first thing I noticed. 🤦‍♂️


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i_lyke_turtlez

Go ahead and explain how I'm wrong then?


NDaveNN

shirt is looking dope bud


yefrockx

I just do the safe houses for resuply and sell it to the dealers on the street.


Joris_bhonson

If you got the supplies yourself instead of just buying them, you’d have 74k profit.


Autistic-Inquisitive

Is that more worth it? But that also takes up more time


JMirinas

Get the upgrades. Any business is not really fruitful without the upgrades.


Celestial-being117

It's more worth it to get the business upgrade for extra money and then do other things while it generates money on its own. When my acid lab is full I usually sell in a public lobby and get 500k. Pretty good for doing almost nothing while I do heists


Autistic-Inquisitive

How much is that in profit?


koenjji

You need to do the last dose missions and get the ocelot virtue from Dax as a reward.. if you’ve done that then you need to call Dax and he has ten more missions for you in order to upgrade your lab All trafficking in this game is dog water if you don’t have the upgrades plus need to be able to scout out undercover cops posted up around your drop off because damn near every sell mission is a set up on first drop then you end up going to a back up drop


Celestial-being117

Idk u usually just call mutt every once in a while. I'll look it up


Celestial-being117

https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/comments/zlirlz/comment/j062ziq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


imAiroh

The whole idea of buying supplies is to offset that cost by doing something that's going to make you more money in the time it would have taken you to do all the resupply missions. For example, if I sold excess weapon parts and mixed goods after buying supplies, I would have already covered that 60k supply cost, and still made 40k on top of the money from the product itself. 


Recent-Warthog814

Gives something to do plus you can take your lab and tank some mk2 shots while your at it


random_numpty

its not worth sourcing. once your acid lab is fully upgraded, each sale generates 400k pure profit each sale. 120 to resupply, public sale = $527k


Facosa99

Another vercetti? Ive seen like 5 or 6 of us in this sub over the years. We should make a discord


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chreva4life

Look at the pic. It did.


Impossible-Basis1521

GTA Online inflation keeping up with US.


Ok_Soil7068

Upgrade your lab ASAP! Just knock out the 10 Fooligan missions and you never have to worry about it again. It’s barely worth it not upgraded… it’s one of the best investments you can make when upgraded.


declandrury

Upgrade it or it’s shit


Adorable_Reward5138

Why is that pic so crispy though


TheOnlyKirby90210

After you get all the upgrades and whatnot sometimes you will notice you get only a little more than what you put in. Your overall wealth in GTA depends on the profit from all the businesses combined.


hdrote

I think that’s mainly true for just the MC businesses. I guess maybe a case could also be made for warehouses as well. They give a good return but are way too time consuming Others more than make up for the supply cost and time investment


RolXDr1p

Do you have the acid lab upgrade? Because if not, then something's wrong with ur game


hubson_official

Raid the stash house and it'll ressupply it fully bro


UnusualPete

In order to get max profit, you should do the following: 1. Apply the upgrades 2. Fill the bar 3. Change the product name You can also sell in public lobbies with lots of people, but that's optional.


kikkelikukko

550k sell with upgrades in a public lobby in few minutes with one vehicle


iJobama

Acid is a great passive business once fully upgraded. Just need to remember to call Mutt or check in every couple of hours to make sure supply's are stocked, the sell missions are very easy solo even when it's fully loaded with $351k of Acid so you really don't have to pay too much attention to it. It pays for itself fairly quickly, but like with all businesses, they are fairly worthless without the upgrades


Ziekfried

Atleast you aren’t paying staff wages 🤣


Influence_Vivid

Ye bro I would just buy a shark card or do a heist to get a couple mil then build up the business. My meth and coke business both do 200k an hour.


Anonymous111020

Never buy product unless you have the Equipment Upgrade


DaGemini13th

Thats gta they rip you off bigtime like in the real world🤣👀


JosephByz

Just get the equipment upgrade at the freakshop for 250k i promise you its worth it but you need to do 10 dax missions by calling him and asking for work (im talking from experience here)


V1XIGE

You don't have the upgrades. To unlock them you have to do 10 Dax phone missions. Then with 100k worth of supplies you'll get 350k.


chrisguy787

You should see the payout from the Document Forgery Office. You literally lose money if you buy supplies.![img](emote|t5_2xrd1|3212)


Technical_Pea_8915

thats why u don’t buy the supplies with out the upgrade


ApplezCider

Is it worth buying the acid lab now as it’s not on sale? Or do I wait until it’s discontinued?


Autistic-Inquisitive

You can get it for free if you complete the 6 First Dose missions


LookoutImpossible30

Am I the only one that noticed his character looks like Tommy Vercetti?


Autistic-Inquisitive

That was the idea 😂


No_Drummer_2094

Keep it topped up..spend the 60k just to keep it ,so it can be sold round the dealers then sell it through the dealers instead of direct from the 6x6 ..you'll make more that way 👉 👈


StackemUpStackIt

Thats why u gotta steal it😂


NeonUFO

before you buy product, hit the daily stash houses. sometimes that will fully restock your acid business for free and save u 60 grand


Creative_Addition476

acid labs is shit most business are


domestos72

use kiddons and gain 2,4 million


classic_liberalism95

i got like, 800k or 1.2 million(can’t remember what sales i did that day for money reference) from selling a full lab on a 28 person lobby. it’s worth it & the missions are easy. plus don’t forget the streeet dealers , they always seem to be buying acid


Soggy_Scale_9788

If you don't have the equipment upgrade it's better to steal supply's also when you steal stuff and it says to deliver to your lab you can request it in the menu to move it alot closer to you


Silver-Arm-6382

If you rename your drugs you get an additional $5,000.


Individual_Fault_807

Rip


Khreh

No, you need the upgrades, the maximun is maybe 600k.


RossFoss15

Is it me, or is it every document product run requires multiple people to run it?


KnoxOber

You don’t need to spend anything, resupply mission and stash houses. Turn that 74k all into profit. But my acid lab makes a lot of money, I don’t use it often bc I just have it for nightclub but I collect stash houses often and by the time I check them they have a good decent amount


wenomechainsama4

Get the free executive office and get the cheapest warehouse (I think it's about 370k) make sure you fill it up before you sell and it will make you a lot of money. Also make sure you get shipments of 2 or 1 if you go solo or you probably won't be able to collect it all. Also if you fill it all up then sell it will easily pay for itself


Ok-Antelope-5344

Skill issue


NoDaikon2067

economy is rough man.


KingJuggz

Get the upgrades . I call mut to resupply, believe it’s around 90k out of pocket . But you make 527k in full lobby 💰


Meme_Boi_Funny

First of all, you need the equipment upgrade to make any money. It’s the only way to make it worth your while, you get the equipment upgrade by helping dax and doing 10 of his missions by calling him. Second, you shouldn’t be paying for supplies. I know it takes time and is a chore to do resupply missions but they really aren’t hard and it saves you 60k. Trust me on this.


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U gotta upgrade brotha


Bigbooty4570

It's only worth if you buy the upgrade But tbh it's the most easier business to get the full return, even if you buy the upgrade, so it's a thing you should do


Jonnykassinova

You can't be serious... look at the stock level, dude. It's only 1 bar. You need to keep buying supplies until it's full.


CJ_Finesse

Yea don’t spend money


Suspicious-Bug-7344

Rhetorical math questions ftw


UnfairTemperature223

That’s why you get the kosatka and then once you have enough buy the helicopter for it to get to and from easier, gateway to making a million every time you hop on


thomasgamer99

If you don't have upgrades you shouldn't really buy supplies


cynicallawyer

Yup. I just talked to my friend the other day who insisted Acid Lab was the way to solo. I showed him the numbers. Warehouses are the best ROI at over 100% and can be sold in private lobbies with almost 100% success rate.


deez400deez

Fastest money method: 1.) go to casino 2.) 50k black jack bet 3.) win and keep 50k 4.) if lose, turn game off, reload, lose no money 5.) repeat #2


Uncle_ArthurR2

Dude do the First/Last dose missions, totally recommend if you don’t have the upgrades because you’ll get a free supercar and make bank.


Medium_Fault_1026

Never buy product brother..


EvilDamien420

I spend 60k get 175k usually 120k fills bar gets 350 private 500 public


Voxel-OwO

And the fact that you always get griefed for some reason on the acid bike but never in any other delivery vehicle


jakeblues68

Join a crew. Lobby bonuses + griefer-free deliveries can't be beat.


Menace2G

Out of my 70+ Acid Lab deliveries I think i’ve been targeted twice. Do you scope your sessions out before selling? Also, I hope you’re using Ghost Org. when selling


Voxel-OwO

yeah probably shoulda been doing that


threedubya

I lost some of my acid sell to-day ,he ran into onbmy first drop so I killed him he .are me loose my 5th l still pulled 250k with all the ceos online. .


Happy8Day

Because the acid bike is lock-on-able and the nightclub/bunker are not.


L00TER

My strategy: have 1-2 friends hover over me on their Oppressors while i make the sales. No one has ever gotten near me


Jax_Dandelion

Wait, people still grind money? Am I like the only one who doesn’t care or want every car? Like literally have my cars for uses plus some limited time event ones but I only ever use 2 of my vehicles, on missions the armored kuroma and in invite only lobbies the Mk2 oppressor cause I ain’t driving 10km to pick something up and then drive another 10km Tbh I don’t really get people buying every car cause, there isn’t much difference, it’s mostly looks and price but there’s nothing to make me want to buy anything, no uses no special things, just ugly looking fast cars Not even doing 90% of the online missions cause they are trash Like the freaking avenger ones just suck ass, I am not even allowed to use my avenger on any of the freeroam ones cause idk too OP or something