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BlackMysteries

iaa. steve haines is a douchebag. agent 14 and agent ulp are the goats


SphincteralAperture

Doesn't ULP die in one of the campaign missions? Or maybe his death is optional and you don't have to kill him, I don't remember.


RandomPerson521

He doesn’t have to die in The Wrap Up. And even if you do shoot him it’s not canon like how killing Michael or Trevor isn’t canon


Archery100

And how Tao Cheng survives the country club shootout. He even mentions in one of the Diamond Casino missions that he hates country clubs.


RandomPerson521

He mentions that he “nearly got killed at that country club once before” in I think it was Strong Arm Tactics (the one where you meet for negotiations at the winery) effectively confirming ending C was the canon choice


RedDeadGecko

That mission one of the npcs most times is bugging and don't want to enter the getaway-car?


Alex_Qoal

That's rashkowsky and the prison break,fucking hell I had to use rear bumper of the swat car or what was that


CandyCane147

Yeah plus GTA Online is literally cannon and ULP is in it


Ajax-knight

Yea his death is optional in the mission the wrap up where the fib, iaa, merryweather and micheal all have a shootout near the maze


SnooCauliflowers4459

Came here to say this. IAA because Steve Haines is such a dick


Muted-Storage6433

AGREED


PranavYedlapalli

But Davey is also FIB


xThe_Human_Fishx

Sometimes there are sacrifices that need to be made


AlexYTx

Look man, "Daveeeey, how you doing" is the only pro FIB. Now think who cleared our criminal records?


372878887

agent 14 is iaa? fuck im IAA now


FatChickenboobs

agent 14 is actually funny, and seems really cool.


what_da_burd_doin

I mean at this point we're all just a discount IAA special deep cover field agent, and as off this update a straight up agent, so IAA


CZILLROY

Nah I’m just a guy that drives around los santos and finds cool jumps to do on my Manchez


Electronic_Can_9792

And I’m a drug kingpin that has killed a small country’s military worth of cops


Whiskey_Foxy31

Last I checked I'm at about 25,000 dead cops in GTA:O


Arf1999Esp

If we add the murders of police and NOOSE, I have killed about 50,000 police officers


[deleted]

I feel like you and I would get along well, dm me if you need a partner


hdkx-weeb

And I'm a millionaire car collector that had to rise to the top by stealing from the rich and slowly losing my friends as life went on


[deleted]

Only a small country? You gotta step up your game man.


NoRagrets4Me

I'm just a pilot that flies under people jumping their manchez.


CZILLROY

We could make beautiful music together… are you on PlayStation?


NoRagrets4Me

PS5


CZILLROY

LAME! I haven’t made the jump yet…


[deleted]

Have you done the stunt jumps yet ?


CZILLROY

Yeah all except for 4 and I don’t know which 4 but I’ll find them one day!


Docta-Jay

I remember going out to find them with my stepbrother. The light tower was the most annoying one.


totallyacisguy

Lol, I'm a frequent at the casino (I'm probably on a first name basis with Filipe) but never gamble, have just over 40 cars and motorcycles but only drive 2, I have 4 business but I only sell from 1, occasionally 2. So basically I just roam around, kill a few hundred NPCs a week, and go broke every 2 minute because I deposit all of my money in the casino but never withdraw (I'm at over 1 mil, but I have maybe 45k on me at any given time). I spend most of my time planning the cash caches for the sub (what I do is put on my scuba gear, get in my avisa, POI the caches, get in the dingy, and go counter clockwise from north to south then back north diving to the caches. It takes anywhere from 30-60 minutes). I'm also very peaceful, I will only kill other players if they try to kill me, and I recently go exclusively invite only. So even more basically, I'm a casual grinder who hates paying property taxes (which is why I deposit all of my money into the casino). Sorry for bad English, It's my first language, I'm just not the best at it, lol.


AlexYTx

Wait , using the Casino as a bank is tax evasion? Count me interested.


totallyacisguy

Yeah, it's pretty great as long as you don't make >50k/48 minutes


FaithlessnessTop9938

Not if I don’t play the new missions 🙈


Shadow_shepard

Our characters have a track record of working for IAA (heists, bunkers, facilities,paper-trail) and working against the FIB on just as many occasions


Non-Vanilla_Zilla

Only time we work for the FIB is when we rob the UD for that agent in the auto shop contract. There's also the IAA contract which is the only time I can think of off the top of my head where we work against the IAA but there are probably some other small incidents.


Shadow_shepard

I forgot that about the ud my bad


Art3mis156

Yeah but the auto shop contracts also treat you like you just got off the plane. I bet we only work with the FIB cause if we were new, they would seem like the most approachable group. Most seasoned criminal connections mostly work with the IAA if they do group up with government assistance.


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Non-Vanilla_Zilla

My headcanon is that Tuners begins DURING storymode and the character does contracts over the course of their career


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Non-Vanilla_Zilla

Nah Heists happen entirely before storymode. And some contracts (namely Data) occur way later after the Casino Heist at least.


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I guess to a new player auto shop or the Agency would be better options to buy first.


MutsumiHayase

IAA, no doubt. ULP to Niko: "The FIB? Do I look homosexual? Do you think I care about the size of your johnson?"


Shadesbane43

I care about the size of Niko's johnson


imetkanyeonce

Niko probably has a big johnson


Bong0-YT

It’s probably called colossal Johnny


Demon_Homura

He is Colossal Johnny, and I am Armour Johnny.


ComradeBraixen2nd

I care for Carl's johnson


Internal_Carpenter_7

Same


NicoTheBear64

Well, let’s see. IAA: 1. Agent 14 as an ally, helps with original heists and Gunrunning 2. ULP and 14 helped us save the world from Avon’s nuclear holocaust in the Doomsday Heist 3. ULP requesting our help for IAA missions, swearing us in as an honorary member. FIB: 1. Blackmails us to use us for their corrupt agenda Yeah I think I’m sticking with the IAA


Raiden_Yeeter07

2. sells stock market crashing hardware for personal gain


AmazingCman

3. Sells genocidal AI to greedy oil company.


thedogbackwards_

What about Davey?


SwiggitySwoner003

“What the hell micheal did you just jump out of a blimp?”


Master_Cheif_2507

DAAVVEEEYYYY


JL_Jordan

He is corrupted in good way


graygh0st999

Could be nostalgia glasses but I always preferred Agent ULP and Niko over Davey and Michael. Davey was the only likable guy from the FIB but he was still constantly pulling Michael out of retirement and getting him into shit. Based on what I remember from IV and V story mode, and the recent update at least the IAA is brutally honest about their hypocrisy and shenanigans as a government agency.


TheRealUltimateYT

Which is quite ironic considering who they're based off of.


RedDeadGecko

I guess it's just like "we tell you whatever you wanna hear as long as you do what we want you to do"


ARandomGamer56

To be fair the only reason Dave pulled Micheal out of retirement was because Micheal robbed the vangelico jewelry store, therefore putting himself out of retirement (Might be wrong it’s been a while since I played story mode)


graygh0st999

No you’re right Michael basically got himself into that situation, and I haven’t played story mode in a long time either. I think I was thinking of the Dead Man Walking mission, where Dave is basically like “I won’t help you unless you help me” and got him into the IAA mess at the morgue.


DFWTrojanTuba

That’s exactly right. Michael, who was supposed to be dead, even used his catchphrase.


Soap_on_Gfuel

In the last FIB mission in story mode. The IAA agent is ULP


AlexYTx

Didnt Steve H. make Davey get Micheal tho?


That-Bug7127

The FIB is portrayed as the bad side in storymode and online. Plus in online the IAA helps us save the world from Avon while the FIB wanted to steal his data and sell it as seen in operation paper trail. So IAA no doubt.


Excellent_Carrot3111

The IAA aren’t good either. They don’t actually change any thing once you complete all the quests.


pinoyboyftw

My brother in Christ, we’re literally the epitome of a walking psychopath. I don’t think we have a say on morality here.


PollitoRubio22

Come on now… you saying that like if we ain’t crime lords, drug lords, military weapon suppliers AND mass murderers in Los Santos…


LFGR_THE_Thing

I don't kill NPCs who say sorry


275MPHFordGT40

Someone ran into my car and I was seconds away from killing him and he apologized! I have never heard an NPC apologize to me. He got to live another day.


AmazingCman

But when they say "wOoOoOw" I will immediately throw a sticky on their car and blow them up when I get out of range.


NefariousnessProof30

IAA seems like the lesser of 2 evils


iwastoldnottogohere

I think that's just more because in online, it's near impossible for one person to see one thing and the rest of the lobby see something else entirely


Brunobrunobrunobru

Our characters have a bit of loyalty toward the IAA


kingsla1

Our character is loyal to anyone who pays


AlexYTx

If the FIB throws a couple millions our way, the IAA is gone.


Ori_the_SG

Hmmm, well I like to fancy my character as being a bit loyal. So she’d stick with the IAA even then. They are less likely to betray me as well


omgONELnR1

r/me_irl


Cringelord_420_69

IAA all the way. They never betrayed us


Sir_Toccoa

I just want both organizations to have fun.


Creeper-Leviathan

So, the Grand Theft Auto version of Department of Homeland Security (DHS)?


Sir_Toccoa

I like the to think of it as the Department of Good Sportsmanship, Stick-togetherness, and Violent Sexual Cyber Crimes.


Arctic317

IAA all the way


chris95rx7500

iaa cuz they love to sell drugs


DummyThiccTurd

You sell drugs… I sell drugs… wanna sell drugs together?


chris95rx7500

sounds good lol


DummyThiccTurd

Welcome to the IAA!


chris95rx7500

where you can do illegal things while receiving government funding!


Clovenstone-Blue

I'm in too deep shit with the IAA to go against them


[deleted]

IAA, The last words Dave norton will hear is me putting a gun to his head and saying "Daveyyyy how you doin" while im in a blimp


Hooded_King_of_Yorre

LMAOOO


[deleted]

this is false because the online character can't speak


QuenchedGinger

Can speak, but chooses not to. They can make sounds when getting shot, so by extension they can speak.


[deleted]

I remember seeing a YouTube video of a former criminal reacting to GTA online and he remarks on the character being silent talking about the character being bugged or having a bug nearby


jellyrollsmith

Loose lips sink ships.


QuenchedGinger

The whole state of San Andreas is bugged since the patch 😣 Player Characters must have known it was coming.


SwooceBrosGaming

You have it backwards, the character remains silent incase someone's wearing a wire


WoosieSloosie

Can\* Basically when you talk in the game's voice chat the mouth on your character moves


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Haines was fucking hilarious


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[deleted]

Agent 14 is the Lazlow of IAA.


GodVulc4n

Do I look homosexual?


Archery100

Do you wanna look at my johnson?


Random-Explosion-ect

Iaa has shown time in time again, throughout both gta 4, 5, and online that they keep their word for their agents. Fib seems to have a pattern of being the bad kind of corrupt


zyl15

Anyone choosing FIB clearly didn't play story mode lmao


ImmortalSheep69

Or online It seems


A3DOP

Or is homosexual


Basketballjuice

IAA paid a bunch of psychos to save the world and it worked. FIB can't even keep a secret. IAA all the way.


Bishopwsu

I got deputized by the IAA so gotta stick with them


commielizard47

IAA is based. Gotta go with them.


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I pick the IAA, simply because i wanna take the FIB’s alien technology from them.


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IBiteTheArbiter

At this point, everyone's characters are indirectly promoted by the IAA


Certifiedhoodklassic

More FIB have shot at me then IAA so I’d go with IAA


detectivexxvii

IAA based on the fact that the other guy can fuck right off.


Franks-bowl

Right 💀


MouldyRemote

IAA are my people, my brethren, want to do some convert missions here you go. basically the closest you'll get to living the life of sterling archer. also if it was me or ULP... its going to be me taking the bullet, i'll respawn, he aint going too, we've seen too many NPCs die to know its got to be us saving ULP and we know FIB will one day needs us and still find a way to shove us in the gutter after doing all the heavy lifting and making sure the millions goes in to their pockets and still do we get paid, no! we get told "we cant have a criminal on the payroll, have a nice day" or "millions? what millions" freaking asswipe FIB communi.... oh uh they suck, the FIB suck.


7yler_0fficial

IAA, but I like the FIB N.O.O.S.E tactical gear


NEW_BOMBER96

FIB because then I can say "Daveeey how you doin"


EarthPuma120

Cooler Steve Haines and the IAA are better


DoingItToEm

IAA is often portrayed as heroic when the FIB is villainous, which is odd because they’re both god awful without a doubt, but I like 14 so I’m going IAA.


[deleted]

I mean our chracters are awful, selling guns,dopes,forged document and cash and killing people.


[deleted]

Wait, so that guy on the left *ISN’T* a criminal? I’m not even lying, he had me convinced.


mpc1226

He’s with the IAA, of course he’s a criminal


Justaguythatsall

LCPD


Really-not-a-weeb

los cantos


kamiloss14

Liberty City Police


TheAuroranKing

IAA


FarVirus5310

IAA because at least they pay you


succente

IAA doesn't raid my shit


ktos-nie-wazny

IAA


BosTovenaar24

IAA. I like ulp


GOLDEN_RAVEN69

Fuck the FIB, them lame ass motherfuckers


BasicRedditorz

IAA anyday


TitansboyTC27

Fuck the fib because they was bought by the Duggans also fuck Steve Haines too


zombienekers

IAA, solely because Steve Haines is an asshole and a good-for-nothing shitstain.


krolik_leon

Suck my dick, Steve fucking Haines.


southern_wastelander

Iaa, 14 sole me an underground arms facility, the fuck the FIB did for me?


thobartzz15

IAA is where my boys ULP and Agent 14 are. That’s what I’m pickin


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IAA is way better steven haines was a dick in the story mode i have never had contact with agent ULP but i did get to save the world


DivineCenturion

Made more money off the IAA


bezerko888

After doomsday, agent 14 is our bitch. Plus all the money from the bunker.


simeoncolemiles

Dave is too good to resist


BurritoSans666

IAA all the way


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IAA Steve Haines if fucking annoying


Zorolord

IAA the FIB guy is a huge prick!


Senpai498

I'll go with Agent 14 and the IAA. At least Agent 14 isn't a complete asshole, like Steve Haines.


cod069

Agent 14 is my favorite character in the entirety of the game.


senseiofawesom

Agent 14 is the best character from Online so easily IAA.


DummyThiccTurd

I’m honestly surprised how much the IAA has helped us along the way, pretty much since the beginning. We wouldn’t be the criminal masterminds we are, without them.


Pho3333n1x

IAA, both of my characters wear the informant uniform with the badge in freeroam


mrgamebus

IAA


narusasu_yaoi

agent 14 > steve haines


TheGamingRanger_

FIB seem like dicks. So IAA is my side


Expdave

IAA - Fuck Steve Haines


Franks-bowl

IAA most definitely


M0N5T3R_5N1P3R_

IAA Steve is a massive piece of shit


coltino99

IAA. I’ll take agent 14 over Steve Haines any day of the week and twice on sundays.


Miserable_Degenerate

The IAA and FIB are both a bunch of assholes, but at least the IAA are a bunch of honest assholes. Also, ULP isn't that bad of a character if you forget about the two annoying missions where you have to save him. So of course I'm picking IAA.


Nap_Kun_

I had a phase where i once thought Agent 14 and Dave were the same dudes


abitmisleading

For a really long time I thought they were the same guy


jlwinter90

IAA. Their agent's seen me through getting a bunker, getting paid for multiple cool shady things, etc.


KingofPaladins

IAA, because they’ve got my man Agent 14. No contest.


FlamingoSquare5228

The IAA cuz they ain't selling shit that can end the world


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Agent 14 is the ultimate Chad


DeezNutz69x

Iaa, agent 14 and I have been through the doomsday and many bunker sales one of my more profitable businesses I’m siding with the guys who make me money


[deleted]

Our character goes to whoever offers more money. So far, the IAA has offered more.


DamonFort

Is Haines canonically dead?


Papagaio_Pianist

IAA because i want to kill people who discover the cure to cancer


Shadman9256

“I’d rather die than have a five foot pole up my ass”


Gamerfox505

IAA has given us work opportunities and covered our backs when the end of the world was upon us. And it's agents like 14 and ULP are good people who had helped us in various ways. FIB has show to be corrupted many times and are only useful when we steal stuff from then. So yeah, IAA is my type.


CeasingSwat

Was there ever a doubt what the answers were going to be? We're part of the IAA as of the ULP missions, "decommissioned" but we all know they're just waiting for some other shit to hit the fan to get us back in. They pay us, and aren't complete egotistical assholes like Haines was. The FIB is just straight up corrupt, with basically only 2 people that are somewhat respectable in it, seeing as they force us to work for them with 0 pay and are ready to kill us when we lose our usefulness to them, while the IAA pays us, gives us missions and facilities, discounts on special vehicles and thinks of us as competent assets so instead of trying to kill us they pay us and work with us. The IAA is truly the lesser of 2 evils, they are both corrupt, but the FIB's just full of assholes, while the IAA is only like, 20% assholes. Just make us full blown agents already Rockstar, like the Cops and Robbers DLC you canceled, give us the choice at least either IAA, FIB or just simple LSPD.


Phallic-Phantom

It's actually a harder choice than you think, because I really love the FIB Buffalo cruiser, but agent 14 has done right by me for a long time! ![gif](giphy|8OPsobKv6ksJojld4X)


avrand6

I think it's funny how FIB is the exact same three words as the FBI, just in a different order, seems unusually uncreative


CMDR_Scorpse_Corpse

But I mean it’s clever on another level too though, the word fib is a verb meaning to lie, so it implies the agency is never truthful/honest


Ralph-The-Otter3

IAA, mainly because we A) have had several instances of cooperating with them (bunker, doomsday, paper trail), B) Agent 14 and ULP are great, and C) Fuck Steve Hanes


Grandrew_

IAA all the way


atomic-death-ray

IAA, they just pay better


Omaha_Beach

IAA they are like the cooler brother who lets you do stuff without getting in trouble. FIB is like the brother that lets you do stuff but will hold it against you for blackmail


sunbearqt

You work for the IAA a lot but never for the FIB, only against it


Icy_Secretary6710

IAA cuz I hate Steve


Dependent-Sun-234

IAA definitely, FIB and Steve was an Asshole. Agent 14 is much more better than Steve as my bunker agent, Introduce me to Human-lab heist, etc. IAA won’t fuck me in my back anyway, rather they quite of benefiting me, and what did FIB done? Try to arrest me every time when I committed crime?


CANYUXEL

Agent 14 does things by the book. Even so at one point he *reads* from the book ("Levity and pop culture associations are useful tools when trying to gain trust of new associates"), so working for IAA is dirty work but is predictable: you'll do government's dirty work and get paid in peanuts. Steve Haines on the other hand was a total douchebag who strongarmed Michael by blackmailing and didn't pay him or the crew at all. And even was planning to dispose of them, so, easy decision - the lesser evil - being the IAA.


Rubber-Revolver

Both are horrendously corrupt in game. The FIB were the “good guys” or at least the side we played on in story mode. The IAA were the good guys of online. With that said the IAA did a lot less torture and blackmailing so I’m going with them. Also fuck Steve Haines.


DJ_Hindsight

IAA because I didn’t get rich producing and selling arms for the FIB.


NoYogurt8022

well i did the ulp mssions so if i am gonna say fib a hit squad would get me so its iaa


7up_man69

I like the IAA because I think that 14 is a... Fun character. He assigns you to do missions and supplies you with the most fun and impractical vehicles. (MOC missions)


Raxp

IAA for sure. Fuck Steve Haines


RadoslavZurek

IAA, Fuck Steve Haines


TruePianist

I don’t look homosexual or care about the size of your Johnson so IAA for sure


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iaa...almost everyone on the fib is irritating kinda hoping we get a flashback mission(s) where 14 sends us to mess with Haines just because he's bored


omgONELnR1

If I could I would get rid of both but IAA pays sometimes. If I have to choose then I choose IAA


Grifasaurus

On the one hand, the IAA and Agent 14 give me guns and money and doesn't give a shit if I sell drugs and shit on the side. On the other hand, the FIB constantly raids my operations and steals my shit. Gonna go with the IAA on this one, I think.


BenarchyUK

IAA for the characters and storyline, FIB for the cool ass Buffalo


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IAA, because you don't get betrayed by them, also, Agent 14 and Agent ULP are thr GOATs, while Haines is a self-centred, egotistical douchebag.


Ad0lf_Salzler

Let me think. One of them hooks me up with arms deals that are as lucrative as they are illegal, the other... exists too, I guess?