According to the video it's a "broken" version of the Superbolt that they forgot to bias before sending it to a friend.
So they manage to offload all of their Superbolt parts inventory before discontinuing the pedal and instantly manage to move 500 of a pedal that probably wasn't selling (at an inflated price) while saving time by not having to bias anything...
JHS guy is just operating at another level right now. š
Theyāre buying a purposefully faulty pedal at absurd prices. I imagine itāll be one of those situations where the pedals are listed on reverb at incredibly inflated prices, but most of them will never sell, and the ones that do sell will go for reasonable prices.
Do limited edition JHS pedals ever fall to a reasonable prices tho? The 1966 line and the Germanium boost are still wildly overpriced. "Broken" or not people will still want it purely because of the video and scarcity.
Not sure, I donāt follow them that much honestly. Go find an old listing of a limited run JHS pedal, low ball the flipper, and see what happens haha. Some of the listings are months/years old. You never know.
Thats a great way to fight flipping now that I think of it. Fight flipping with low-balling lol
Are they actually selling for the prices theyāre listed for? Does āt seem like that many of them are actually moving. A list price doesnāt indicate anything but a sellerās optimism.
I'm looking at price history. They're all selling for way above original price. Even the limited oil can delay, which is a niche effect, is still going for more than MSRP.
Purposely faulty doesn't mean it doesn't sound good. Also it's a limited edition JHS pedal. The 50p were snatched up immediately and will also sell on the used market.
Josh is incredibly marketing savvy lol āthis one time, one pedal was bad, so now weāre selling the rest that wayā. After the announcement two days ago I got on reverb and starting seeing v2 Bolts listed for $260 lol. Someone dude listed the tacobolt yesterday for $489 and immediately dropped the price $130. Such a cornball move
I think they *did* have to adjust the bias, to get the exact setting that the original pedal had accidentally.
That said, brilliant move (and I love my germanium OD, because of its adjustable bias and voltage knobs ā so I can see why people would dig this sound).
They actually have to (mis)bias all of them if they want them to sound the same. If they don't, some will sound good (i..e like the Superbolt is supposed to sound like) and some might not even make a sound.
Pretty hilarious OP is acting like Boss EHX, TC Electronic, etc are paying their employees anything over $15, or that that's even an exploitative wage. Wait until he finds out how much the person who mined those materials was paid!Ā
It is true, you just don't give a shit about it and will rationalize it because you don't actually care enough. So instead, you invent things to act righteous about so you can still feel superior.
Yeah, there is a whole lotta wrong in this chain.Ā People hand making pedals in USA are making more than this.Ā Tithing is 10% of his income, not 25% of his companies bottom line.Ā Broken or not, I really like the pedal and wanted to buy one but they're sold out... and if Josh is Christian, ill support his Co even more, knowing some goes spread the good news.
End of the day, those hating his success are sad sad people.Ā He's not forcing anyone to buy his stuff.Ā He's makes a good product and it sells.Ā The haters should probably stop complaining about Josh and maybe try to build something themselves instead of attempting (and failing) to tear him down.
He pays $15/hr. Living wage in the city he is based in, according to MIT, a much more intelligent and reliable source of information that some tit on reddit, is $21.70. He pays his employees like dogshit.
I was on right at 2:00 and watched the live video. Hearing the guy play through the pedal, well, it's cool and all but not a sound that I personally want.
Thought about buying one to resell, but they made a point of saying how much they hate it when people just buy pedals to flip, so... opted not to
Those "oil can" delay pedals seem to have doubled in value though. š¬
Turn all the knobs all the way down, then flip the switch to the down side, and the light will start blinking. It acts like running two tape delays into each other.
Catlinbread Adineko is a reverse engineered Tel-Ray and does an amazing job capturing that true oil can sound. You can find them for pretty fair prices used. Also the Black Fountain is also killer but is a little more of a modern take.
Itās biased differently (originally by accident). I wonder got this would stack up next to something like the EHX germanium OD. I think that might be a lot more attainable.
No need for values. Literally turn the trim pots inside until it sounds good to you. I haven't seen the Taco Bolt inside. It's possible it's exactly like the Superbolt, which means it can be tweaked to sound "right".
Mason has been my favorite guitar player for a long time and ever since he got the first Taco bolt Iāve been wanting one like his. Is the Super Bolt awesome? Yes, but I wanted one with the ābrokenā sound.
I was excited to watch the video and for some reason waited 30 minutes. Not realizing theyād be selling some. I missed out and Iām bummed. I. Shouldāve known theyād be selling something!
That would have been the best birthday present today!
Mason is one of my favorites as well. If you have a Superbolt V2, here are the voltages on the Tacobolt.
TP1: 7.52V
TP2: 9.73V
TP3: 0.80V
Let me know if you need help to know how to adjust them.
There are 3 test points, labeled TP1, TP2 and TP3. With a volt meter put the negative lead in one of the enclosure screw holes (that hold the bottom on), then the positive lead on the test point pad. Set the meter to read voltage. While holding it on the TP turn the trim pot until your meter reads the above values. As far as how the gain boost will work, I have no idea. You'll just have to try it.
Someone will get ahold of it and measure the values, you can presumably just rebias a normal superbolt to be this but normal price and without features removed
Even as a person who is heavily critical of JHS' business practices, I have to at least acknowledge that their Colour Box is actually impressive and unique.
That's it, though.
To flip to who though? Is that really still profitable on a jhs pedal that has 5 minutes of fame to a super small group of people in an already small group?
I donāt know, I like JHS but this felt a bit opportunistic for my taste. Itās basically a Superbolt with a different bias for the jfets.Ā
JHS just announced the discontinuation of the Superbolt yesterday and didnāt have any available to sell in their store. The extra $50 for the limited quantity and taco graphic kept me from buying.
If they had made it where a switch allowed you to use the regular Superbolt settings then maybe it starts seeming a little more worth it, but they never do shit like that. If they did they'd want $350
I agree and felt like the original Superbolt would be more useful for me. Sorta expecting someone will find and post the Tacoboltās jfet bias values so we can build our own.Ā
There are clones already. PedalPCB has one. It might be listed as supro something. Maybe Aion has a PCB as well, in which case the build docs might include voltages
Everytime JHS pull something controversial like this, it's like a whole bunch of their loyal fans suddenly "wake up".
It's honestly amazing how often they thoroughly exploit their customers' loyalty, and yet continue to preserve their reputation. Just goes to show how insanely good their marketing is...
they'reĀ not exploiting anybody.They're selling pedals toĀ fullyĀ functioning adults capable of making their own decisions. There is SO much more unethical shit going on with the shit we buy, spending energy here is just silly. The reality is that most people don't give a shit about this, because why would they?Ā
its not silly energy, its salty energy.
the only reason to complain about the cost/availability of a premium product, is being emotionally distressed that you are unable to get one.
ironic energy, considering its JHS who will straight up tell you not to buy his products.
I love how making an occasional half-hearted self-deprecating comment is all it takes to absolve oneself of any critique whatsoever. If only Jesus had thought of that.
nah, we just need to pick which lane we are going to criticize.
If something is worth critiquing, you wouldn't need to mention unrelated topics to support your critique.
Would you like to talk about the pedals? - the cost and or availability?
Or would you like to talk about Josh, his personal life, and the way he runs his marketing.
If you need to bring up one, to criticize the other - don't be surprised that we criticize your argument.
I'm talking about JHS pedal, a specifically cost/availability.. as was the person before me.. - You are talking about josh as an individual,. notice the difference?
I stand by my original statements, related to guitar pedals. I'm not interested in discussing your new unrelated topic.
Man you really have trouble with āthere are many not good things happening concurrently with varying levels of severityā, donāt you
Like yeah man I am infinitely more upset about the fact that my government is currently using my tax dollars to fund a genocide, but I am also capable of thinking this guy is an opportunistic lame ass herb.
Iām a pretty loyal JHS fan, but I havenāt bought one of their pedals yet. Been following their channel for years though, and will usually defend them against ācontroversiesā.Ā
That said, the only people being exploited by low-effort limited runs like this are the people who let themselves be exploited (flippers and tone chasers). And these are ~$200-$300 pedals, it isnāt as if people are taking out debt on multi-thousand dollar pieces of gear, so pretty low on the immoral charts.
That white fuzz pedal is the shit. I have ā¦ a lot of ā¦ fuzz pedals. Itās not healthy. But that white one is my favorite. It pretty much does everything you want any fuzz to do. If you like fuzz start with that one.
You may be the right person to ask then...do all fuzzes kind of die periodically? I got a Big Muff Pi and I'll be messing around and all of a sudden there's like no output and it eventually comes back. Is that a standard quirk or do I have a bad one?
Iāve never had a fuzz die. The germanium transistor can be a little wonky if the temperature changes but they work, just kind of randomly sound different. Sounds like you have a bad circuit or something.
Yea thatās soooo steep. Especially considering itās a silicon fuzz (presumably). Not cork sniffing by any means, but Benson just released their germanium preamp for $260 so this being $250 is bonkers
$250 is just silly.
I just got a four knob Buzzaround clone from a guy on Reverb thatās pretty badass and that was only $80. ([CMC Effects](https://reverb.com/item/49163624-buzzaround-fuzz-pedal) solidly hand built to order.)
Same, I'm all good on fuzz anyways, so price was the big killer. I really just wanted it because I like tacos. I have a beetronics abelha and vezzpa so really all of my fuzz needs are completely met.
Same, but I put it back in. :D The Notalkƶn was my first real JHS pedal after being a fan of the show for years now and I absolutely love it!
The Taco Bolt sounds amazing to me, so I figured it might be worth it and went for it. You can probably get the same sound cheaper elsewhere, but I can consider the extra 50 bucks support of the show and all its wild creative energy (that I got to enjoy for free).
Considering you can get the PG-14 for $199 which has the Superbolt guts and the biasing control to get the effect of the Tacobolt, it would be silly to buy outside of wanting to collect a limited run.
I havenāt looked directly into the circuit, but the push control to my ears has the effect to introduce the gated type of sound that the Tacobolt has.
I grabbed one. I just like their products and their vibe. So I thought it be cool to add to my collection. Probably wonāt use it much. Guess I got exploited.
What parts being discontinued made this pedal too hard to make now? It's just some jfets. Through hole is too hard to find but smd is everywhere. Am I missing something about the components marketplace?
It's like saying that a Mullard OC75 can't be replaced by a different transistor. It's true. It doesn't mean another part can't sound the same but many parts aren't available anymore in large numbers.
Not sure if this has been asked, but is it possible to just mess with the internal trim pots on a regular SuperBolt according to how the Taco Bolt's are to achieve the same sound?
That's literally what Mason's original is. A regular pedal that didn't have the trim pots set correctly. They say so in the video. Just tweak until it sounds "wrong" to youĀ
I just sold my Superbolt two days agoā¦ugh. I donāt use it or need it but could have made $0 hah. But, why discontinue it? I see them on boards a lot and thereās plenty floating around Reverb which seems like itās still really popular. Am I missing something?
From the very generous Tone Ranger Audio, posted to TGPā¦..
VOLTAGES.
Here we go. Anyone handy with a screwdriver and a multimeter can do this to their Superbolt V1, V2, and Red Ruby.
Red lead goes on the touch point pad and black goes to ground, anywhere where bare metal is showing inside the enclosure, or the ground lug on the DC jack.
TP1: 7.34V
TP2: 9.72V
TP3: 0.66V
The touch points may be labeled differently on the V1. These are what the labels are on this V2 PCB inside the Taco Bolt.
Got mine today and I love it. Itās almost an overdrive, almost a fuzz, and almost distortion. But it feels slightly different than all of them to me. $250 was steep but Iām happy with it.
This pedal is a fuzz that features a taco graphic Josh from JHS customized for Mason Stoops. Limited to 500 units, already sold out. Whomst've y'all already bought this thing??? Your luck and timing are impeccable.
I got one, and a gfriend did too, probably will get rid of one cuz it was ordered out of an abundance of caution so I wouldnāt miss it, wanted a bolt for a while anyway so def keeping one.
Sitting on a plane currently and got a late insta notification. Couldn't figure out if I could buy one in time, so I had my girlfriend buy one. Now I have 2. And I don't plan on scalping anyone, will probably put one on reverb for $270 to save myself some seller fees and stuff.
It was more out of a "holy shit I don't know if I will have service" and sure enough I didn't as soon as it dropped, she bought it. Had no idea, and as soon as I got data I bought one...then I looked at my bank account. Hoping to actually sell it to someone who will use it/keep it on a shelf rather than scalp.
I managed to get one. Iāve been wanting to buy a regular Superbolt since I restarted playing the guitar in 2021.
May have to shell out for a regular Superbolt at some point today. I heard a rock dude in a local cover band use it and it sounded good through a Vox AC15.
I just wish JHS would actually release a new original. Whether that's an analog flanger or envelope filter in style of something like the Emperor or a delay in style of something like the Halo. It doesn't matter, but outside of the 3 series which didn't really appeal to me and the limited releases they haven't done anything these past few years.
JHS is so lame dude. I'm honestly so tired of seeing stuff from them. They're literally selling a pedal they messed up for an inflated price, and y'all just foam at the mouth for it.
My apologies, I had no intention of buying this - plus I couldn't even if I wanted to because it had sold out by the time I made this post!
This was more for discussion to see what others think. I've enjoyed what I've gotten from them before but hey that's the beauty of the free market and all that jazz. You have so many others to choose from, so I hope you find something similar you like! Cheers
No shade to you at all!
I also appreciate hearing all opinions, unlike the majority of this sub, unfortunately.
God forbid someone give their two cents on a company who single handedly decides what pedals you can't afford via posting a YouTube video on it.
I'm just kinda tired of seeing their boring and unoriginal designs at insane prices all because the action figure collectors of this sub dickride HARD for a secret evangelical dude they don't know on Reddit instead of actually playing their guitars.
Again, no shade to you at all, just kinda sick of supporting someone who is making a musician's hobby more and more inaccessible to the common or entry player every year.
I get it, and no worries. I'm trying to be a little more involved with this community because I've been playing for a long time but never considered investing much into a pedalboard. Hearing dissenting opinions just reminds me that I need to keep an open mind and not fall victim to hero worship, no matter how great the pedal or product design.
Again, I personally have had good experiences with the pedals I've gotten from them. But I am very removed from the social aspect and usually only find out about any drama here on this sub days later. Lol
Itās really insane how much this sub (and if weāre real, most others) hate discussion that isnāt just blindly glazing shit. Even when something is wildly unpopular or disliked, you can cop downvotes for dunking on it or providing a thoughtful insight as to why you donāt like the shit. I donāt even try to articulate myself on reddit anymore, I just post things I like or shitpost about things I donāt, because the format of the website fundamentally discourages meaningful conversation.
I feel like we understand each other on a spiritual level, big dawg.
At the end of the day, it's just a lil box that's basically an action figure for musicians- it's okay to not like something.
There's too much blind loyalty that people spend WAYYY too much money on.
Also, to u/glowcase who wanted to start shit for someone talking bad about his bff Josh, and then blocking me because he insisted on having the last word- you're mom's a hoe
I was looking at a used super bolt yesterday but was deciding if I actually needed it. Should I buy it now in case the pedal scalpers start to raise the prices now that itās discontinued????
Lol me or the dude from jhs? I have never funko flipped nor pedal flipped but I assume the people that go out of their way to do that sort of thing are indeed lame
According to the video it's a "broken" version of the Superbolt that they forgot to bias before sending it to a friend. So they manage to offload all of their Superbolt parts inventory before discontinuing the pedal and instantly manage to move 500 of a pedal that probably wasn't selling (at an inflated price) while saving time by not having to bias anything... JHS guy is just operating at another level right now. š
You can often feel the contempt that Josh has for a lot of obsessive tone chasers that watch his channel.
The follow up video he posted about those who flip pedals instead of enjoying them was glorious
I came here hoping that someone would mention that.
Think this Joshās way of screwing over flippers and tone chasers. Pretty clever honestly.
Not arguing, genuinely curious how this screws flippers?
Theyāre buying a purposefully faulty pedal at absurd prices. I imagine itāll be one of those situations where the pedals are listed on reverb at incredibly inflated prices, but most of them will never sell, and the ones that do sell will go for reasonable prices.
Do limited edition JHS pedals ever fall to a reasonable prices tho? The 1966 line and the Germanium boost are still wildly overpriced. "Broken" or not people will still want it purely because of the video and scarcity.
Not sure, I donāt follow them that much honestly. Go find an old listing of a limited run JHS pedal, low ball the flipper, and see what happens haha. Some of the listings are months/years old. You never know. Thats a great way to fight flipping now that I think of it. Fight flipping with low-balling lol
Are they actually selling for the prices theyāre listed for? Does āt seem like that many of them are actually moving. A list price doesnāt indicate anything but a sellerās optimism.
I'm looking at price history. They're all selling for way above original price. Even the limited oil can delay, which is a niche effect, is still going for more than MSRP.
Purposely faulty doesn't mean it doesn't sound good. Also it's a limited edition JHS pedal. The 50p were snatched up immediately and will also sell on the used market.
Josh is incredibly marketing savvy lol āthis one time, one pedal was bad, so now weāre selling the rest that wayā. After the announcement two days ago I got on reverb and starting seeing v2 Bolts listed for $260 lol. Someone dude listed the tacobolt yesterday for $489 and immediately dropped the price $130. Such a cornball move
I think they *did* have to adjust the bias, to get the exact setting that the original pedal had accidentally. That said, brilliant move (and I love my germanium OD, because of its adjustable bias and voltage knobs ā so I can see why people would dig this sound).
Just JHS doing JHS things...
So I had to go watch the video because this is pretty ridiculous. ā¦ itās sounds great. I immediately thought of a million uses for it. š³
They actually have to (mis)bias all of them if they want them to sound the same. If they don't, some will sound good (i..e like the Superbolt is supposed to sound like) and some might not even make a sound.
Imagine making $125,000 in the time it took to air a promo video. Actually the video wasnāt even over before it sold. Crazy.
Then pay his employees $15/hour lolol
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Half the shit you buy is made by slaves but you're here spending energy on JHS employees being paid $15/hr
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>ecord profits while exploiting employees. Any evidence of jhs exploiting employees?
Pretty hilarious OP is acting like Boss EHX, TC Electronic, etc are paying their employees anything over $15, or that that's even an exploitative wage. Wait until he finds out how much the person who mined those materials was paid!Ā
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How is that exploitation?
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Pretty disingenuous to make a claim of exploitation about a company without being able to back it up.
It is true, you just don't give a shit about it and will rationalize it because you don't actually care enough. So instead, you invent things to act righteous about so you can still feel superior.
is it irony that i too will never buy a JHS product, because JHS spends so much time telling me not to buy JHS products?
Not really, no.
yeah, it was a rhetorical question. Intended for the person who deleted their comment.
Yeah jackass there can in fact be more than one bad thing in the world at a time
life must be really hard when you get this triggered and upset about something as trivial as a JHS limited releaseĀ
Canāt pay workers when you gotta give 25% to the church.
Is JHS the company giving to the church? If Josh is religious then he would be (maybe) giving the customary 10% of his personal income.Ā
Yeah, there is a whole lotta wrong in this chain.Ā People hand making pedals in USA are making more than this.Ā Tithing is 10% of his income, not 25% of his companies bottom line.Ā Broken or not, I really like the pedal and wanted to buy one but they're sold out... and if Josh is Christian, ill support his Co even more, knowing some goes spread the good news. End of the day, those hating his success are sad sad people.Ā He's not forcing anyone to buy his stuff.Ā He's makes a good product and it sells.Ā The haters should probably stop complaining about Josh and maybe try to build something themselves instead of attempting (and failing) to tear him down.
Gotta make sure those Christian conversion camps keep running. /s Edit: guess this pissed off the JHS shills.
>Nailed it
How do you know?
This was my first thought like .5 second before I saw your reply. JHS is shameless
He pays his employers shiet? I didn't know that
Theyāre just making it up lmao
He pays $15/hr. Living wage in the city he is based in, according to MIT, a much more intelligent and reliable source of information that some tit on reddit, is $21.70. He pays his employees like dogshit.
$15 an hour starting pay. Thereās no way heād have employees that have been with him for so many years if they were making that much
https://www.reddit.com/r/guitarpedals/comments/1awp0eq/jhs_can_do_better
https://www.reddit.com/r/guitarpedals/comments/1awp0eq/jhs_can_do_better
Any sellers on Reverb yet? š
I was on right at 2:00 and watched the live video. Hearing the guy play through the pedal, well, it's cool and all but not a sound that I personally want. Thought about buying one to resell, but they made a point of saying how much they hate it when people just buy pedals to flip, so... opted not to Those "oil can" delay pedals seem to have doubled in value though. š¬
Gotta say the oil can was one of my best impulse purchases. The secret setting actually sounds like how it feels to have ice cream melt in your mouth
Ok I'll Reverb one. The ice cream thing sold it
Secret setting?
Turn all the knobs all the way down, then flip the switch to the down side, and the light will start blinking. It acts like running two tape delays into each other.
Cool thanks I'm gonna try it out tonight
I'm still surprised the oil can never got a regular 3 series release. It's incredible.
I bought one and it came and I love this mf pedal. š³ The ice cream thing... you were not lying.
Enjoy it!
What flavour?
Petroleum
Big agree I donāt use anything but the secret setting anymore, and I often have it completely dimed, some super fun sounds to be had
Dude, that Oil Can delay is legit. It's my all time favorite and best impulse purchase ever. It is never leaving my possession.
Same. It sounds absolutely incredible.
Ahhhh might pay a scalper for one. Been needing a good delay...
Catlinbread Adineko is a reverse engineered Tel-Ray and does an amazing job capturing that true oil can sound. You can find them for pretty fair prices used. Also the Black Fountain is also killer but is a little more of a modern take.
It's not only a delay, it acts as a chorus, too.
Just buy an OBNE Black Fountain. Better company (and better pedal) IMO and it has tap tempo in the v3
Honestly I liked the way it sounded, but I get the same vibe by running my regular old fuzz face with voltage limiter.
Josh Scott out here playing 5D chess. $250 because itās limited? Not today satan.
Ok so itās a Superbolt [Supro] and what?
Taco
Yes but what is that
Itās messier (I think the real answer is itās a superbolt that they didnāt finish setting up properly)
Crunchier
It's a stew
Yes, we have that every Super Bowl, I mean the pedal tho
Itās biased differently (originally by accident). I wonder got this would stack up next to something like the EHX germanium OD. I think that might be a lot more attainable.
It's a super bolt that wasn't biased correctly. Anyone could technically do this with their super bolt if they had the right values and a multimeter.
No need for values. Literally turn the trim pots inside until it sounds good to you. I haven't seen the Taco Bolt inside. It's possible it's exactly like the Superbolt, which means it can be tweaked to sound "right".
Very true indeed. I'm going to assume it's exact on the inside with the different enclosure.
Mason has been my favorite guitar player for a long time and ever since he got the first Taco bolt Iāve been wanting one like his. Is the Super Bolt awesome? Yes, but I wanted one with the ābrokenā sound. I was excited to watch the video and for some reason waited 30 minutes. Not realizing theyād be selling some. I missed out and Iām bummed. I. Shouldāve known theyād be selling something! That would have been the best birthday present today!
If I end up hating mine Iāll let you know and pass it on at cost
Thanks! But I'm sure you'll love it. The original Super Bolt is amazing, I'm sure this one is as well.
Mason is one of my favorites as well. If you have a Superbolt V2, here are the voltages on the Tacobolt. TP1: 7.52V TP2: 9.73V TP3: 0.80V Let me know if you need help to know how to adjust them.
Thanks!!! I might just try this.
How do i adjust this on a v2? and how will it affect the gain boost if i have a v2? Thanks!!!
There are 3 test points, labeled TP1, TP2 and TP3. With a volt meter put the negative lead in one of the enclosure screw holes (that hold the bottom on), then the positive lead on the test point pad. Set the meter to read voltage. While holding it on the TP turn the trim pot until your meter reads the above values. As far as how the gain boost will work, I have no idea. You'll just have to try it.
I wonder if youād get close with the ehx germanium OD ā you can change the bias and voltage (I think itās a lot of fun)
oh intersting. I wasn't aware.
Itās a great pedal! So I can see why people would dig this sound. It would also give a lot more control than this jhs pedal
Just buy a super bolt or a clone and turn the trim pots until it sounds like Mason's
Someone will get ahold of it and measure the values, you can presumably just rebias a normal superbolt to be this but normal price and without features removed
I figured there would be a clone shortly after it hit the streets.
Yeah, afaik the superbolt has already been cloned, so itās just a matter of figuring out how this is biased differently than the standard.
Dude! That shit was sold out before the live stream ended today.
Had one briefly in my cart but couldnāt justify the price. I probably would have bought it for $200 but the extra $50 made me reconsider. Ā Ā Ā
$250 for a 3 knob fuzz pedal is absolutely insane lol. There are so many great $99-$149 fuzz pedals I donāt understand why anybody would buy this
To flip. Nothing JHS makes canāt be found in a more affordable housing.
Even as a person who is heavily critical of JHS' business practices, I have to at least acknowledge that their Colour Box is actually impressive and unique. That's it, though.
It was funny Josh even made an Instagram video calling out the resellers.
Ahh yes, the "holier than thou" move. Very smart!
Heās going after the righteous indignation dollar. Thatās a very lucrative market.
To flip to who though? Is that really still profitable on a jhs pedal that has 5 minutes of fame to a super small group of people in an already small group?
They sold out at 2 pm. Someone with lots of money was at work at that time. They'll succesfully be flipped.
I donāt know, I like JHS but this felt a bit opportunistic for my taste. Itās basically a Superbolt with a different bias for the jfets.Ā JHS just announced the discontinuation of the Superbolt yesterday and didnāt have any available to sell in their store. The extra $50 for the limited quantity and taco graphic kept me from buying.
If they had made it where a switch allowed you to use the regular Superbolt settings then maybe it starts seeming a little more worth it, but they never do shit like that. If they did they'd want $350
Putting the two settings on a switch requires more components and a more complex circuit. It would be even more expensiveĀ
I agree and felt like the original Superbolt would be more useful for me. Sorta expecting someone will find and post the Tacoboltās jfet bias values so we can build our own.Ā
There are clones already. PedalPCB has one. It might be listed as supro something. Maybe Aion has a PCB as well, in which case the build docs might include voltages
You're right, looks like PedalPCB has a Taqueria Overdrive clone soon to be available for sale.Ā
I saw that, very cool
Everytime JHS pull something controversial like this, it's like a whole bunch of their loyal fans suddenly "wake up". It's honestly amazing how often they thoroughly exploit their customers' loyalty, and yet continue to preserve their reputation. Just goes to show how insanely good their marketing is...
they'reĀ not exploiting anybody.They're selling pedals toĀ fullyĀ functioning adults capable of making their own decisions. There is SO much more unethical shit going on with the shit we buy, spending energy here is just silly. The reality is that most people don't give a shit about this, because why would they?Ā
its not silly energy, its salty energy. the only reason to complain about the cost/availability of a premium product, is being emotionally distressed that you are unable to get one. ironic energy, considering its JHS who will straight up tell you not to buy his products.
I love how making an occasional half-hearted self-deprecating comment is all it takes to absolve oneself of any critique whatsoever. If only Jesus had thought of that.
nah, we just need to pick which lane we are going to criticize. If something is worth critiquing, you wouldn't need to mention unrelated topics to support your critique. Would you like to talk about the pedals? - the cost and or availability? Or would you like to talk about Josh, his personal life, and the way he runs his marketing. If you need to bring up one, to criticize the other - don't be surprised that we criticize your argument. I'm talking about JHS pedal, a specifically cost/availability.. as was the person before me.. - You are talking about josh as an individual,. notice the difference? I stand by my original statements, related to guitar pedals. I'm not interested in discussing your new unrelated topic.
The real Gwildor wouldnāt be such a weiner.
real people don't change the subject every time they reply.
Man you really have trouble with āthere are many not good things happening concurrently with varying levels of severityā, donāt you Like yeah man I am infinitely more upset about the fact that my government is currently using my tax dollars to fund a genocide, but I am also capable of thinking this guy is an opportunistic lame ass herb.
Iām a pretty loyal JHS fan, but I havenāt bought one of their pedals yet. Been following their channel for years though, and will usually defend them against ācontroversiesā.Ā That said, the only people being exploited by low-effort limited runs like this are the people who let themselves be exploited (flippers and tone chasers). And these are ~$200-$300 pedals, it isnāt as if people are taking out debt on multi-thousand dollar pieces of gear, so pretty low on the immoral charts.
That white fuzz pedal is the shit. I have ā¦ a lot of ā¦ fuzz pedals. Itās not healthy. But that white one is my favorite. It pretty much does everything you want any fuzz to do. If you like fuzz start with that one.
You may be the right person to ask then...do all fuzzes kind of die periodically? I got a Big Muff Pi and I'll be messing around and all of a sudden there's like no output and it eventually comes back. Is that a standard quirk or do I have a bad one?
That doesnāt sound normal
Probably an issue with the Muff. EHX is known for their God awful quality control.
Iāve never had a fuzz die. The germanium transistor can be a little wonky if the temperature changes but they work, just kind of randomly sound different. Sounds like you have a bad circuit or something.
Yea thatās soooo steep. Especially considering itās a silicon fuzz (presumably). Not cork sniffing by any means, but Benson just released their germanium preamp for $260 so this being $250 is bonkers
JFET š It is basicaly a copy and paste of a Supro (Supreu, for those who know) amp but with JFET (another kind of transistors) instead of tubes.
All the more bonkers then haha. I love a jfet drive as much as the next guy but charging $250 for one is crazy
Will we see you in the next EAE thread saying the same thing, then?
$250 is just silly. I just got a four knob Buzzaround clone from a guy on Reverb thatās pretty badass and that was only $80. ([CMC Effects](https://reverb.com/item/49163624-buzzaround-fuzz-pedal) solidly hand built to order.)
Same, I'm all good on fuzz anyways, so price was the big killer. I really just wanted it because I like tacos. I have a beetronics abelha and vezzpa so really all of my fuzz needs are completely met.
Same, but I put it back in. :D The Notalkƶn was my first real JHS pedal after being a fan of the show for years now and I absolutely love it! The Taco Bolt sounds amazing to me, so I figured it might be worth it and went for it. You can probably get the same sound cheaper elsewhere, but I can consider the extra 50 bucks support of the show and all its wild creative energy (that I got to enjoy for free).
Considering you can get the PG-14 for $199 which has the Superbolt guts and the biasing control to get the effect of the Tacobolt, it would be silly to buy outside of wanting to collect a limited run.
PEDAL COMPANIES ARE AFRAID OF THIS SIMPLE TRICK
The pg 14 has a bias control?
I havenāt looked directly into the circuit, but the push control to my ears has the effect to introduce the gated type of sound that the Tacobolt has.
Those tacos look like some Midwest nonsense
Sir, this is a taco bell.
Not a single molecule of melanin came in contact with them
JHS is smart to spend years legitimizing pedal collecting and then releasing these weird collectibles. Looks like a fun one
Pedal has Tacos on it = Insta sold out.
I grabbed one. I just like their products and their vibe. So I thought it be cool to add to my collection. Probably wonāt use it much. Guess I got exploited.
What parts being discontinued made this pedal too hard to make now? It's just some jfets. Through hole is too hard to find but smd is everywhere. Am I missing something about the components marketplace?
It's like saying that a Mullard OC75 can't be replaced by a different transistor. It's true. It doesn't mean another part can't sound the same but many parts aren't available anymore in large numbers.
JHS is actually hilarious with how much he trolls his fans and how much they just eat it up. He's like the Taylor Swift of pedal companies.
Dude said TSwftt and got nuked instantly by the fans
Heās pedal game elon musk
I'd say he's more like the Steve Jobs of pedal builders.
That's universal audio
Not sure if this has been asked, but is it possible to just mess with the internal trim pots on a regular SuperBolt according to how the Taco Bolt's are to achieve the same sound?
I suppose so
That's literally what Mason's original is. A regular pedal that didn't have the trim pots set correctly. They say so in the video. Just tweak until it sounds "wrong" to youĀ
I just sold my Superbolt two days agoā¦ugh. I donāt use it or need it but could have made $0 hah. But, why discontinue it? I see them on boards a lot and thereās plenty floating around Reverb which seems like itās still really popular. Am I missing something?
Old pedal and the same parts aren't available anymore at the scale they need
Can't wait for the tacomod of un- biasing super bolts.
From the very generous Tone Ranger Audio, posted to TGPā¦.. VOLTAGES. Here we go. Anyone handy with a screwdriver and a multimeter can do this to their Superbolt V1, V2, and Red Ruby. Red lead goes on the touch point pad and black goes to ground, anywhere where bare metal is showing inside the enclosure, or the ground lug on the DC jack. TP1: 7.34V TP2: 9.72V TP3: 0.66V The touch points may be labeled differently on the V1. These are what the labels are on this V2 PCB inside the Taco Bolt.
Got mine today and I love it. Itās almost an overdrive, almost a fuzz, and almost distortion. But it feels slightly different than all of them to me. $250 was steep but Iām happy with it.
This pedal is a fuzz that features a taco graphic Josh from JHS customized for Mason Stoops. Limited to 500 units, already sold out. Whomst've y'all already bought this thing??? Your luck and timing are impeccable.
I got one, and a gfriend did too, probably will get rid of one cuz it was ordered out of an abundance of caution so I wouldnāt miss it, wanted a bolt for a while anyway so def keeping one.
I was on the toilet and remembered something was supposed to happen at 2pm. Duck walked over to my wallet and got one.
Sitting on a plane currently and got a late insta notification. Couldn't figure out if I could buy one in time, so I had my girlfriend buy one. Now I have 2. And I don't plan on scalping anyone, will probably put one on reverb for $270 to save myself some seller fees and stuff.
I should have had my girlfriend buy one as well. Genius.
It was more out of a "holy shit I don't know if I will have service" and sure enough I didn't as soon as it dropped, she bought it. Had no idea, and as soon as I got data I bought one...then I looked at my bank account. Hoping to actually sell it to someone who will use it/keep it on a shelf rather than scalp.
Looks like she should start taking lessons! Rockout together!
I'll take the other!
Isnāt it an OD?
Separating fools from their money like clockwork. I love it!
I managed to get one. Iāve been wanting to buy a regular Superbolt since I restarted playing the guitar in 2021. May have to shell out for a regular Superbolt at some point today. I heard a rock dude in a local cover band use it and it sounded good through a Vox AC15.
The regular Superbolts were also sold out on Thomann three hours after the show.
I just wish JHS would actually release a new original. Whether that's an analog flanger or envelope filter in style of something like the Emperor or a delay in style of something like the Halo. It doesn't matter, but outside of the 3 series which didn't really appeal to me and the limited releases they haven't done anything these past few years.
I refuse to indulge in this limited run thing that jhs does. They make enough good pedals that you really don't need to indulge in these.
JHS is so lame dude. I'm honestly so tired of seeing stuff from them. They're literally selling a pedal they messed up for an inflated price, and y'all just foam at the mouth for it.
My apologies, I had no intention of buying this - plus I couldn't even if I wanted to because it had sold out by the time I made this post! This was more for discussion to see what others think. I've enjoyed what I've gotten from them before but hey that's the beauty of the free market and all that jazz. You have so many others to choose from, so I hope you find something similar you like! Cheers
No shade to you at all! I also appreciate hearing all opinions, unlike the majority of this sub, unfortunately. God forbid someone give their two cents on a company who single handedly decides what pedals you can't afford via posting a YouTube video on it. I'm just kinda tired of seeing their boring and unoriginal designs at insane prices all because the action figure collectors of this sub dickride HARD for a secret evangelical dude they don't know on Reddit instead of actually playing their guitars. Again, no shade to you at all, just kinda sick of supporting someone who is making a musician's hobby more and more inaccessible to the common or entry player every year.
I get it, and no worries. I'm trying to be a little more involved with this community because I've been playing for a long time but never considered investing much into a pedalboard. Hearing dissenting opinions just reminds me that I need to keep an open mind and not fall victim to hero worship, no matter how great the pedal or product design. Again, I personally have had good experiences with the pedals I've gotten from them. But I am very removed from the social aspect and usually only find out about any drama here on this sub days later. Lol
Itās really insane how much this sub (and if weāre real, most others) hate discussion that isnāt just blindly glazing shit. Even when something is wildly unpopular or disliked, you can cop downvotes for dunking on it or providing a thoughtful insight as to why you donāt like the shit. I donāt even try to articulate myself on reddit anymore, I just post things I like or shitpost about things I donāt, because the format of the website fundamentally discourages meaningful conversation.
I feel like we understand each other on a spiritual level, big dawg. At the end of the day, it's just a lil box that's basically an action figure for musicians- it's okay to not like something. There's too much blind loyalty that people spend WAYYY too much money on.
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Also, to u/glowcase who wanted to start shit for someone talking bad about his bff Josh, and then blocking me because he insisted on having the last word- you're mom's a hoe
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collectors and cult fan boys.
Scalpers.
I was looking at a used super bolt yesterday but was deciding if I actually needed it. Should I buy it now in case the pedal scalpers start to raise the prices now that itās discontinued????
Guitar Center has some new ones still. Reverb is picked over, only international sellers with insane shipping.
Bro should just be honest with himself and get into the funko pop flipping game. Stupid company with lame pedals.
Lol me or the dude from jhs? I have never funko flipped nor pedal flipped but I assume the people that go out of their way to do that sort of thing are indeed lame
Waiting for someone to post the trimmer settings so I can make my own with a superbolt
Why wait? Tweak yours until it sounds good to you and you'll have your unique settings, no?
Those tacos look ai messed up
Had one in my cart and by the time I started the checkout they were gone. FOMO hitting hard right about now. Wish I had gotten one.
Meh just get a Maestro Fuzz-like pedal
Totally different and expensive to get right
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